My understanding is once you establish your pivot, you can do one of the following: (1) lift your non-pivot foot and release the ball (2) lift your non-pivot foot and while it’s still in the air lift your pivot foot and then release the ball before either foot touches the ground. (3) lift both feet at the same time and release the ball before either foot touches the ground.
@refereeuniversityКүн бұрын
Depends on the action following the lifting of the pivot foot to determine if it is legal. You can lift your pivot foot for a shot or a pass provided that it occurs before the pivot returns to the ground. You cannot lift your pivot foot prior to the start of a dribble.
@kobekane3 күн бұрын
They're using videos showing the man keeping his pivot down but stepping and shooting. Kobe Bryant kept his pivot.
@refereeuniversityКүн бұрын
Here then: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHTFcqemi7OroNksi=AG8CcwDX68t7_LwT
@kobekaneКүн бұрын
@@refereeuniversity I'm not questioning you if it's legal now. The problem I have is that it's actually a travel that they made legal. I maybe personally biased because they did not allow us to use it when I played so I hate it. You have to misinterpret the rule for it not to be a travel. Yes you can raise your pivot. But raising your period with your other foot on the ground is another step which makes it a travel. The only way you we're able to raise your pivot was if both feet left the ground at the same time. The interpretation of the rule is wrong in my opinion because it's not consistent with the other travel violations. For instance, if a ball handler picks up his dribble antiques one step, how long does he have before he can take the second step?
@kobekane3 күн бұрын
The way the rules were exercised, it was a travel for years. You couldn't pick up your pivot for years. Now you can pick it up but not put it back down. The only way you could pick up your pivot foot was if you jumped off two at the same time.
@refereeuniversityКүн бұрын
The reason is due to their being a larger amount of officials not knowing the rule and calling it. It’s been legal forever.
@DJVijilanteКүн бұрын
@@refereeuniversityShow the rule and show where it states you come to a stop establish your pivot and then walk through with your non pivot and lift your pivot while your non pivot foot is on the ground. If you go back prior to 2000 or maybe even 2010 you never see players do this. Could you imagine Michael Jordan getting the ball and doing this!? He would average 50 ppg!
@kobekaneКүн бұрын
@@refereeuniversityNo, it was officiated properly before. The misinterpretation comes where it says you can lift the pivot, but if your other foot is still planted then it's technically another step, which is a travel. The only way you were supposed to be able to lift your pivot was if you jumped with both feet off the ground. The step through literally breaks the rules that said you only get 2 steps in one continuous motion and direction... Which is the same rule that made the Euro step illegal.
@refereeuniversityКүн бұрын
@@DJVijilante In my video, I showed the written rule from the rulebook that supports it. Please quote yours. Players have been doing this, Dirk, Hakeem to name a couple. If the written rule is not enough and you do not believe it occurred before the 2000's....here is a video with an NBA director of official development and a VP of video operations stating it is true (one through video example) and multiple examples across the era's: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHTFcqemi7OroNk
@refereeuniversityКүн бұрын
@@kobekane Please find where in the rule book that the 2 steps have to be continuous and in the same direction and quote it to me please. There are plenty of referees in today's time that referee off of experience (as a player, coach, or with other referees) instead of reading the rulebook which causes this disconnect. The jump stop no pivot foot still exists in today's game, the restriction depends on how many steps you take prior 0-1- and on the last step (Step 1) you land on two feet: no pivot allowed, if you go 0-and on the first step (Step 1), you land on two:pivot with either foot. I am all for a discussion, but please show some evidence in the rulebook for it. I have the rulebook, top referees, and video examples to support my stance
@liambrock38316 күн бұрын
@7.35 my coach in under 14s said the 5 second the inbounder has doesn't start until they actually touch the ball after getting it from the ref. So technically you could let the ball drop to the ground after the ref goes to hand it to you and wait indefinitely. It's still technically a 'dead ball' can anyone help me here. I can't find the answer anywhere
@refereeuniversity3 күн бұрын
That’s not true, the 5 second count starts when it’s at the disposal of the inbounder. Which the referee can pass or place it at their disposal
@johnnyhammer8 күн бұрын
What about the fact that FIBA says a STATIC player can't lift their pivot foot? All these examples are of static players lifting their pivot foot to take another step. That stops the "What about a layup?" arguments.
@refereeuniversityКүн бұрын
Please reference where in the rule book that states you can’t lift your pivot foot if you’re “static” versus when you are doing a layup
@johnnyhammerКүн бұрын
@@refereeuniversity In FIBA Rules: “25.1. Definition 25.1.1. Travelling is the illegal movement of one foot or both feet beyond the limits outlined in this article, in any direction, while holding a live ball on the playing court. 25.1.2. A pivot is the legal movement in which a player who is holding a live ball on the playing court steps once or more than once in any direction with the same foot, while the other foot, called the pivot foot, is kept at its point of contact with the floor. 25.2.1. Establishing a pivot foot by a player who catches a live ball on the playing court: • A player who catches the ball while standing with both feet on the floor: …… - To pass or shoot for a field goal, the player may jump off a pivot foot, but neither foot may be returned to the floor before the ball is released from the hand(s).”
@refereeuniversityКүн бұрын
@@johnnyhammer Firstly, the word static is not in the rulebook. Secondly, the article has two bullet points of identifying a pivot foot, first bullet point is a standing player and the second addresses a progressing player (which is what you would do for a layup) which means the layup situation has a pivot foot. Lastly, this argument about the written rule is a fair issue/complaint to have. Other rule books address the step through clearly through allowing people to step off their pivot foot (like shown in the video). FIBA has it written differently but the interpretation still allows it. What I mean by that, top FIBA officials have confirmed it's legal and when I asked a top FIBA rules person (does some of their webinars), they state a step is different that a jump. So you can step off your pivot foot but you cannot jump off of your pivot.
@johnnyhammerКүн бұрын
@@refereeuniversity Hmm... But the FIBA rule clearly states that you can't step on your non pivot foot if you lift your pivot foot by saying that "NEITHER FOOT may be returned to the court before the ball is released from the hand(s)", doesn't it?
@benjeehummer9 күн бұрын
It’s a shame to see new-gen players gaining a 3-5 step advantage, ignoring basic basketball rules. Players are taking 3-4 steps before shooting, and now younger players are copying them, claiming it’s not carrying the ball.
@refereeuniversity7 күн бұрын
With the change of dribbling (allowing hand to come to the side of the ball), gathering (when it is deemed they gathered), and including a zero step (ignoring the step you gather with), it appears that they take many steps. Some of these changes allow for more athleticism and creativity when they play.
@gyrowave15 күн бұрын
There's a whole lot to traveling rule that has not been told!
@refereeuniversity15 күн бұрын
Bullet points are to explain different scenarios, we showcased the ones in regard to this scenario of footwork
@gyrowave14 күн бұрын
@refereeuniversity I am giving up, after 50 years of fighting! The new experts forgot the basics and people keep asking why ! Thanks for this material, good job!
@Сунђербобан18 күн бұрын
FIBA rule book states completely opposite, wtf?
@refereeuniversity16 күн бұрын
They deem a step and a jump/hop as different movements, which is why the wording is different but interpretation is the same
@mindaugasbalsys830118 күн бұрын
He can slide 28 meters to the court for the backcourt to the frontcourt
@ShaAinaMendoza-fn6bf19 күн бұрын
If a player gains control of ball. hasn’t dribbled yet but decides to throw the ball forward with two hands and runs after the ball and dribbles again. It should be considered a double dribble right?
@refereeuniversity16 күн бұрын
The first dribble can start with two hands, and a push dribble is allowed so this move is legal
@TheBigPencil6921 күн бұрын
Ive had the privilege of attending lectures from Karen Lasiuk and Perry Stothart (two of the officials in this game, some of Albertas finest). Both incredible educators and referees. Much love ❤
@jonathanmilla460426 күн бұрын
Thanks great content greetings from 🇨🇱
@bruceb.5Ай бұрын
Best channel for FIBA refs, Thanks!!
@refereeuniversityАй бұрын
Thank you!!
@DexterDumayoАй бұрын
Can you explain article 10-3 thanks!
@refereeuniversityАй бұрын
I will add it to the list, that may take some time
@sophieh1362Ай бұрын
I know this is an old video but this is the best explanation of a disqualifying foul I’ve seen yet. Thank you!!
@refereeuniversityАй бұрын
Thank you!!
@S1Carter7Ай бұрын
0:55 That's a clear travel in FIBA rules. He establishes his left foot as pivot foot, then after his pass fakes he releases the pivot foot just before the ball leaves his hand: Travel! The ball must leave his hand before (or at least at the same time) he lifts his pivot foot.
@refereeuniversityАй бұрын
You are correct!
@j.j.4228Ай бұрын
Lifting the pivot foot isn't the argument. SWITCHING the pivot foot is. All the examples of the NBA aren't what they showed in the beginning.
@refereeuniversityАй бұрын
When you step through, you aren’t pivoting because you can’t use the other foot. In order to pivot, you need both feet (one to be nailed in the ground:pivot foot and the other to be moving every direction)
@j.j.4228Ай бұрын
@refereeuniversity Checkout Indiana vs Duke 2002. 51:10.
the last episode with the girl, what if something similar was done during the box out? Essentially, the defender is in the paint, and the attacking player is running from a 3pt line for a an offensive rebound. The defender quickly turns his back, almost like body checking but with his back, and the offensive player bumps into the denfender (everything is on the ground, not in the air). Is that a foul?
@refereeuniversityАй бұрын
All depends on who was in the spot first. So if I step and turn my back and get to the spot first as a defender and offense runs into to me, it’s their foul
@KentTrivetteАй бұрын
What year did this rule change?
@refereeuniversityАй бұрын
I don’t know if it was a rule change or an added interpretation to provide consistency
@alzhang8Ай бұрын
5:00 love the explanation
@erosravera3721Ай бұрын
Last action is legal in NBA, illegal anywhere else.
@Drew63Ай бұрын
Legal in NBA in the last 2 minutes; legal in college maybe? Illegal in FIBA
@DavidWilliams-rk1nq2 ай бұрын
You need to delete this video
@troyhogarth87932 ай бұрын
Lots of flopping. Are these soccer players?
@IngeniusSoul2 ай бұрын
Hi Question. If you land with both feet on 2nd step, that you remove a foot from the ground but keep it up with the other foot still grounded, is it a travel ? I know that you can't land the foot on the floor, it would eb a 3rd step, but can you keep it and hold it in the air, assuming you'd remain on 1 foot ? xDD
@refereeuniversityАй бұрын
Great question, 25.2.1 says that landing on two feet on your second step, “if one foot or both feet then leave the court, no foot may return to the court before the ball is released from the hand(s)”. That means you can hold one foot in the air, you just can’t step through.
@IngeniusSoulАй бұрын
@refereeuniversity haha 🤣 can only laugh at imagining the scene 😂 Thx for the answer 😁
@XYz-co1ob2 ай бұрын
Kobe junps off two feet...
@rogerhuang97602 ай бұрын
YOU ARE RIGHT. They can't see the difference between KOBE's movements and this video. They just think "similarity" means the same movements.
@refereeuniversityАй бұрын
Use the wheel (settings) to slow down playback, takes off of one
@XYz-co1obАй бұрын
@refereeuniversity travel go back and open yiur eeyes
@refereeuniversity16 күн бұрын
Another video has tons of examples if you need
@lpbreeze14152 ай бұрын
question. I may be getting it mixed up with NFHS. In NFHS A1 gets two fts if fouled- intentional or flagrant. So A1 shoots, fouled- not common. Makes the shot, still gets two shots. If unsuccessful still gets two shots. Or 3 on a 3 pointer. In FIBA, if same thing happens but if A1 makes the shot, gets unsportsmanlike foul. Is it an and 1 situation? Or is it count the basket and two free throws like NFHS?
@refereeuniversity2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the question! If they have an unsportsmanlike foul on a made shot (2pt or 3pt), it’s only one shot (an and1) and they get possession of the ball. Hope that helps
@lpbreeze14152 ай бұрын
@@refereeuniversity Cheers. It appears the NFHS rule is different so that's why I was getting mixed up.
@refereeuniversity2 ай бұрын
Here is the first version: 5 Commonly Mistaken Basketball Rules (FIBA) kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6DHpa2Jl52Li9k
@iSupportBasketball2 ай бұрын
Where is volume 1? :)
@refereeuniversity2 ай бұрын
Here: 5 Commonly Mistaken Basketball Rules (FIBA) kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6DHpa2Jl52Li9k Find more videos on our KZbin channel:)
@rowboatfilm2 ай бұрын
If you jump from out of bounds, do you need 1 or both feet to contact inbounds before catching the ball to be considered legal?
@refereeuniversity2 ай бұрын
1 foot! Great question!
@juhner842 ай бұрын
Thanks to the global reach of the NBA, one of the most often mistaken FIBA rules is that in FIBA there is no “the hand is a part of the ball” rule.
@Jeff-ox1hu2 ай бұрын
Are you allowed to start a new dribble after you catch your own airball ?
@juhner842 ай бұрын
No. You can only shoot or pass.
@256mo2 ай бұрын
@@juhner84as is explained, if the shot attempt is daimed valid, team loses control at shooting, though regaining control at the rebound, so all options should be allowed. You sir, are wrong.
@valentinogaravani17382 ай бұрын
@@256moperfekt answer
@cptfwiffo2 ай бұрын
Mistaken basketball rules😅
@stin55842 ай бұрын
Hi, thank you for this video! Before watching this video I knew that the NBA and NCAA rules were pretty clear that lifting the pivot to do a step-through move is 100% legal (you can lift the pivot foot but must shoot or pass before the pivot foot lands), but I was confused about the FIBA rule 25.2.1, which states that "the player may jump off a pivot foot, but NEITHER foot may be returned to the floor before the ball is released from the hand(s)". After reading the comments section, it sounds like FIBA specifies a "jump" as separate from a "step" (as in the step-through). I had a couple follow-up questions: 1. So if the FIBA jump-off-of-pivot rule doesn't apply to a step-through move, is the argument that there is no specific language in the FIBA rules and therefore a step through is legal? Or if there is specific language regarding the step-through, can you tell me the section in the FIBA rules? 2. Do the FIBA rules explicitly define what a "jump" is and how it's different from a "step"? Does jump = two feet leaving the floor and step = one foot leaving the floor? Thank you for clarifying this. My work league refs are massive old heads and I don't think they're interpreting their rule book correctly... the step through move always gets called for a travel but I don't think they realize that if a step through is being called for a travel then all two-step layups need to be called for travels too.
@refereeuniversity2 ай бұрын
I have brought this to the attention of FIBA operations. Even known they have videos showcasing it being allowed and top rule interpreters agreeing that it’s a legal move, the issue is the writing of the rule itself. Especially when they don’t define words like the NBA does in their rule book. They can keep this wording if they did exactly that: define a jump from a step. From the years of rule book changes I have seen and read, FIBA tends to make those mistakes due to their location, I was told that it gets translated into English for the rule book versus NBA rules created in the USA where the rules are written in English and translated to other languages.
@highervibrationalstate98353 ай бұрын
You tried to pull that off 😂. Yall eyes and ears are catching two different things. Comprehension at a low. The step through parker and melo did was travel, they moved the pivot before the shot. When the trainer rold melo he had to jump off two, they mean after the first step with pivot still down. As you can see when melo tried to do correctly it didnt feel right because he's so used to doing it wrong. Then he finally did it right, and after that he kind of went back to the travel. The guy doing the video then showed melo doing the move two different times side by side, but he actually didn't show the clip side by side that melo did the move without walking. Then each nba/wnba clip you showed was of players doing the move correctly, they each step with the non pivot foot kept the pivot down then jump off two. As for the rule book it speaks on not moving the pivot unless you jump to pass or shoot. When clearly, if your watching parker and melo lift their pivot not to jump but on the step. Simple footwork knowledge shouldn't even be a conversation.
@refereeuniversity2 ай бұрын
Use the wheel to slow down the video, near impossible to jump off of two with a forward lean. Due to people having issues with catching that, I compiled MANY CLEAR CUT examples: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHTFcqemi7OroNksi=yusK5FGgcul5zW8W
@highervibrationalstate98352 ай бұрын
@refereeuniversity Mastering footwork takes much practice. You can jump off 2 feet while leaning foward, just as we do off a fade away, fall away, and leaning floater.
@refereeuniversity2 ай бұрын
I could screenshot those moves in the video and I guarantee two examples went off of one foot. Stagger foot with forward lean/stretch, near impossible
@highervibrationalstate98352 ай бұрын
@refereeuniversity Most of them clips in that video in your reply are traveling. No need to slow down the footage, Ive been doing up and unders and step throughs since I was a child. It's not an issue of the pivot moving on the jump, the issue is these players are lifting the pivot on the move before the jump. Ncaa and pro sports are a joke nothing but WWE. Show some real competition footage.
@Tetelestai033 ай бұрын
Sir,... its a jump, ....not jump to then step, or a leave your pivot to take a step. .....at the point when you have left your pivot, that is what is being done( leaving your pivot ). In simple, youre not leaving your pivot to take an additional step. (What yiu have done in tha case if effectively change yiur pivot).
@refereeuniversity2 ай бұрын
Same footwork as most layups
@Tetelestai033 ай бұрын
I don't care... this rule is misinterpreted at the highest levels... It's a TRAVEL! ALL THEYVE DONE is effectively switched the pivot. ( the rule reads that the ball has to be released b4 the pivot comes back down...) To emphasize the misinterpretation, answer this for me...When I lift my pivot and take the step-through with the opposite, could I keep jumping/hopping off the the step-through until I get to an open spot just as long as I don't put my initial pivot back down? Of course you can't but the rule and people's interpretation of the rule will have you believe that you can do whatever as long as the pivot doesn't come back down...
@refereeuniversity2 ай бұрын
There is another rule bullet point that you can’t jump on the same consecutive foot after gathering so that is illegal by the rule book. Just like the video shows, all rules are accessible, just have to rad them. Additional, it is only misinterpreted from the fans, here are two NBA officials in different education roles saying it’s LEGAL: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHTFcqemi7OroNksi=yusK5FGgcul5zW8W
@granthatcher3 ай бұрын
no gather step when he picks up his dribble. then only two steps after that. good play.
@emaginegmuzic70663 ай бұрын
To 4 countries right there
@fatboikilar273 ай бұрын
YES he traveled all the way to diddi house 🤭🤣 Jordon’s the GOAT
@dailyviewstv53233 ай бұрын
I love the old rule, 0step then shoot... 0,1,2 steps is bad game as rules... In our local game, we do Zero step.. coz if there is 0,1, 2 steps, player can do side step or zigzag step hehehe
@refereeuniversity16 күн бұрын
I imagine it’s because we have amazing athletes being expected to stop quickly off of full speed movements. The 0-1-2 allows more utilization of moves and doesn’t kill the athleticism
@nomadicstan3 ай бұрын
No. His second step never left the floor.
@networkdg3 ай бұрын
Yup
@Porchlight833 ай бұрын
😮yes i counted at least 3 steps
@juniormattis87753 ай бұрын
Was that a question?
@trumpetaway29433 ай бұрын
Travelllllllll right foot was pívot and was returned to floor before ball released
@johnjack9023 ай бұрын
That's that diddy step
@johnjack9023 ай бұрын
King of the passport brothers
@franckylibbrecht61033 ай бұрын
Yes he did
@thisguytm33023 ай бұрын
Clean, his left foot was his pivot
@soccerlove_dad3 ай бұрын
How to say you don’t know basketball without saying “you don’t know basketball “
@cadelmao3 ай бұрын
no and it's 2024 bro you can stop with the traveling videos