Dreamhack and cologne 14 are underrated IMO. A nice blue laminate with cologne 14s goes hard fr
@vxlentino5 күн бұрын
since this video agents are up 100 something percent
@HelloP909 күн бұрын
hello p90 now at 1.40$ each 😋 next year we get those 3$ mark
@zayotb11 күн бұрын
u must be eating good off atlanta 2017 tho
@donchuyexotics13 күн бұрын
I think I got lucky 😂 I like the hot sauce charm , it’s a whopping 1$
@Doenerwerfer13 күн бұрын
i invested in broken fang cases. that is an investment
@noname-xv6fr13 күн бұрын
i got 90 euro for blue die cast ak last night on steam market. ppl be crazy
@oOignignoktOo113 күн бұрын
Gun buddies don't belong in CS. If I wanted that fairy shit I'd go play Valorant. Now I know how the Artifact fanbase feels when they got screwed by Valve.
@vendigo391913 күн бұрын
So if the team does not qualify the major but they were the last time their value will go up?
@jordan210413 күн бұрын
As a former csgo player this all sounds so fkn stupid lol!
@lemonhaze71513 күн бұрын
Imagine getting dropped an ak ingame full with these charms... super distracting imma keep it at that.
@ViketAnnYuumi13 күн бұрын
a reminder we have multiple players when these go out the supply will also go
@marioE213 күн бұрын
Super underrated channel. Keep it up brother
@Zarrx13 күн бұрын
0:40 never made sense to me because gun skins are redeemable from cases for years and infinitely tradable... sure cases have scarcity but its foreseeable that these charm collections will go away or see less redemption from stars in the future.
@leaveacomment13 күн бұрын
The problem is, whenever any charm sees any positive price movement in the future while still being redeemable, people will just buy new passes and redeem it until they're back to being unprofitable.
@Zarrx13 күн бұрын
@leaveacomment that is reasonable speculation (and in all reason likely) but I just think there are variables that could see it untrue. Let's say in the last 2 weeks 60% of the market of whales just find them uninteresting and another 30% sitting out. What happens if that flips? Could demand outpace pass sales and star redemption in price trends? How many casual players are grinding stars right now on a large scale? When will that stop? Equilibrium where people will grind the charm and bring the price down is not quite known and grows with demand. This is not accounting if they do into discontinuation.
@bleo837114 күн бұрын
I am not going use charms... for me its just crap for kids under 13 xD... looks bad, feels bad.. i see no value in it.. Makes game looks stupid... Does not belong in to CS... sad move by valve... i know you need make profit, but make grenade skin or something.. no this sh*t
@TwistedFireX13 күн бұрын
Whatever you say unc.
@leaveacomment13 күн бұрын
I agreed until they made them have patterns. The game desperately needed rare collectible items and the chamrs having 100k patterns matters.
@timchikun13 күн бұрын
does not belong in cs? but its in the game lil pup
@lemonhaze71513 күн бұрын
@@timchikunguess we saw it comming when they added goofy ah agents. Smhhhhh
@TwistedFireX13 күн бұрын
@@lemonhaze715 I like the charms personally but I think the agents are a far more egregious offender.
@armanclark240114 күн бұрын
i got a detachment pack on my weekly reward, but have now redeemed 2 charms and didnt get extra detachments. still only 3.
@shouygui495514 күн бұрын
each detachment tool is 3 uses, so you can remove 9.
@M4st3rM4nu3l14 күн бұрын
inspect the charm detachments next to your trade up at the bottom of your inventory. it should say 6 are available
@armanclark240113 күн бұрын
@@shouygui4955 the only pack i received was the one i picked from weekly drop.. i dont have 9x or 3 separate packs. just 1 pack of 3x detachments.
@EpicDonutDudeMemes14 күн бұрын
Collectors will go all out now, I feel like it will be normal to have multiple charms and if someone wants it for all of their guns they need deep pockets for the top tier ones
@redmagician2714 күн бұрын
I just want lil sas red eyes😢 why did this stupid community decided red eyes is worth more than blue, emerald or purple. Yes i am venting since lil sas charm with red eyes was sold for 800e and that means i will never be able to have one.
@ptreeNA14 күн бұрын
Nah it will all die down eventually I think even something like lil SAS will be close to market in some time. The market price of these charms are too high compared to star cost anyways
@timchikun13 күн бұрын
lol bro ur part of the stupid
@JimmyDoesJournalism14 күн бұрын
Also, we've looked through every pattern. It isn't that hard... The gun buddies in-game are so low res that most us won't be able to discern detail either. We already have tools that allow us to check every pattern. You literally played an animated gif and said "we don't know what every pattern looks like" but you just hued through every colour on the knife/diecast.
@JimmyDoesJournalism14 күн бұрын
Your very wrong about the charm patterns.. The 661 pattern wouldn't be any more rare under this new system, you'd simply have a range either side of 661 that is now very close to the best pattern. Compare pattern #55,666 and pattern #55,667 and tell me that they're not identical... Please. Changing a single value by the smallest integer to create a new shade of blue takes hundreds of patterns before most of us can see any difference.
@ptreeNA14 күн бұрын
People still degen for collection purposes there's a reason why multiple charms have sold for $300+ even if it's stupid. The same way people will pay 10x more for a #1 low float skin that makes no difference in game compared to a 0.00x is going to apply to people getting best pattern charms thay have no difference in game, or 0.072 and 0.080 gloves. And it was just a simplified comparison for the video as the 661 ak wouldn't even be the best pattern if 100k variations existed, but it conveys scale nonetheless. I think we can agree that overpaying for a few values of difference is stupid, but I also think there's dumber things people go crazy for that's considered "normal" today
@MaxWollheck13 күн бұрын
I agree with you. It's not really pattern based as we know it from normal skins. It's a spectrum of colors. Though I do believe that unique pattern ids like 661, 88888, 42069 and so on will be overpaid for, we can't deny the fact that it's a 1/99.999% chance to get a certain id. Overall I think that the easiest way is to give percentages to charms like we have it for fade skins. Then add ons can just say 7.72%, 56%, 99.5% for example
@GTheGecko14 күн бұрын
Goated video definitely already watched it all preliked
@timchikun15 күн бұрын
but who is gonna spend hundreds of dollars of passes if u just can buy the item on the market, i think not many people will constantly put money into it
@Tom-eq5bz15 күн бұрын
So they killed of Operation investments, hold the old stuff I guess. For now I will sell all my cases, i have bad feeling what the future will bring. Its all about money now
@secondworldcorp16 күн бұрын
What's your opinion on white market? Is it safe to use?
@parkourguyyy16 күн бұрын
One thing on my mind is when the honeymoon phase of people who have been starved for content fades away, how many people will be buying passes and farming stars? I'm willing to bet the amount of new supply coming into the market will start to diminish pretty soon. We may have already seen the biggest supply increase if thats the case
@Hansgans16 күн бұрын
Valve sucks... They care only about their money, not about players or investors.
@AONTrappy17 күн бұрын
Valve does not care about the secondary market at large.
@xdognatex989717 күн бұрын
Yes they are destroying all investments..
@kroooassant989918 күн бұрын
No Vac 3.0, enough said.
@D0P1C318 күн бұрын
you cant compare items from armory to agents becouse back then there were less players and "investors" IF armory items stay too long without change it ends up as RMR 2020 stickers there were for sale for too long
@D0P1C318 күн бұрын
also what site do you use to see how many of each items is out there?
@yoanwastaken17 күн бұрын
@@D0P1C3He uses floatdb
@ptreeNA17 күн бұрын
The comparison was just that charms could be overlooked and even after a long time of availability they could wiggle into a profitable position. That being said the die cast attention recently will singlehandedly boost the supply of these charms as many people seem to be hunting it, but there may be a world.
@D0P1C317 күн бұрын
@@ptreeNA well we can hope that its true and they climb in value over time for now gambling how to still made money back is to open craft stickers and geting that googly eye 15€ money returned for pass and rest is "profit" or geting 20 cases selling them and after steam cut and pass cost profiting like 2€ at most
@poopmaster13718 күн бұрын
anomaly didnt get banned bruh
@nnarquise18 күн бұрын
Valve destroyed my armory investment when I wasted 25 stars for a BS Heat Treated lol
@ptreeNA17 күн бұрын
same lmao
@tuskutin18 күн бұрын
SELL SELL SELL SELL jokes aside i do believe the armory is going to be a somewhat permanent thing, with maybe a rotation in a year or so. holding long-term seems sketchy. Might hold my cases for a week since people probably wont redeem them too much in the ongoing week and thr price might go up
@ptreeNA17 күн бұрын
I'm kinda banking on cases hitting a little bit higher than they are right now for a period but not much higher, seems like many items have settled and with passing months probably a slow bleed
@tuskutin17 күн бұрын
@@ptreeNA sounds perfectly reasonable, but lets see if the market cares about reasonable behavior...
@Raines4218 күн бұрын
These skins will all be worthless. Its insane to think otherwise. The M4 Fade will be around 100€ and the Deagle about the same price as the MP5 Lab Rat.
@rjdsouza718 күн бұрын
The market is forever changed because of the 7 day restriction when you buy an item or get it from a collection/case
@rarestbanana18 күн бұрын
“The armory is not a dead investment, you can’t just look at it the same way as an operation “. Couldn’t agree more. I’m glad you have this take on it in a sea of “armory is doomed”
@ptreeNA17 күн бұрын
people have reason to be scared and I wont be the guy to buy in early but I wont write it off either. Time will tell type beat
@Honeythief__18 күн бұрын
At the very least, the classified skins will be good trade up filler if the prices continue to crash
@ptreeNA17 күн бұрын
big true actually but that kinda hurts my tradeup filler stash :(
@bladerunner442518 күн бұрын
This really goes into dark direction. Even if these collections will be time limited, lets say for 6months, reds will go for around 100€, pinks for ~22€, purples ~5€, even before 6months mark. If it'll stay longer it will be much, much worse.
@shawarmacs218 күн бұрын
Im not gonna say unfortunately
@taakerr18 күн бұрын
so just like skins used to be? i like that
@xXPBSXx118 күн бұрын
i think if red will be around 1000 then pink will be at least 200 plus minus cause otherwise you could just buy 10 ppink skins for 220 and upgrade to 1000 skin which never happend
@bladerunner442518 күн бұрын
@@xXPBSXx1 you misread
@xXPBSXx116 күн бұрын
@@bladerunner4425 oh yeah my bad :D
@Mahmoud-tg3xx18 күн бұрын
I do play couple games every day, I'm thinking about getting as much passes as I can and just buy cases and hold them for some years do you have any thoughts on that? I think it's pretty safe unless something big happens with the lows and stuff but from supply and demand perspective it's unlikely to go lower than 90cents because if it does it will be unprofitable and no one will buy it with the stars which will make supply go lower and price up so it will probably just stabilize around $1 until it gets removed. I also think that the armory being a yearly think is possible ofc I would like it to be like 6 months but if it's more than 1 year I think valve risks the failure of the next rotations as many people who get burned in this might not want to get burned again in the next one.
@Mahmoud-tg3xx18 күн бұрын
I'm also betting on valve fixing the anticheat and the subtick issues which would bring life back into the game
@seeeLAH118 күн бұрын
if items dont change i quit
@ihatepinecones9918 күн бұрын
They could bring back missions that grant star xp for completion, but if you do all 100 missions you get a diamond coin or something.
@knokd_18 күн бұрын
Good video bro. I agree this isn’t the same as an operation. So we really don’t know what the market will be like of these items
@simtelefon18 күн бұрын
Knowing how lazy Valve are these armory collections could be there for years completely untouched. Investing is a risk.
@ptreeNA18 күн бұрын
100% I think 1 year is completely logical and they might feel the same but if they don't do anything for 2 years no one should be surprised either. I sure love dealing with valve as my overlord lmao
@dirtysecretcs18 күн бұрын
Always a pleasure to watch your take on the CS economic. Great stuff - keep it up man! Can you link the guide with all the different charm patterns, I can't find a useful one?
@ptreeNA18 күн бұрын
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3347881530 this is the guide I was using for the die cast I don't know if these values are replicated through other charms or not I haven't gone hunting yet
@sldbdb57118 күн бұрын
What is your opinion about the inferno 2018 collection?
@ptreeNA18 күн бұрын
if it gets replaced great because of the fade. With the Armory I could see valve replacing the collection without taking the map out (I don't see inferno leaving the active duty pool anytime soon) so the chance of inferno 2018 getting replaced soonish is possible. The pinks in that collection aren't mainstream so I wouldn't touch them personally
@gaborungor678818 күн бұрын
Hi i like this Deagle Heat Treated with Shadow blue and can u help? what is the pattern and float? i want to buy another one Thanks for Help
@ptreeNA18 күн бұрын
the one I have is pattern 310 and 0.296 float which is why the purplish color doesn't show very well. I'm sure it's not the best "purple pattern" or whatever they're calling it but even if it was I wouldn't overpay for really any heat treated atm 👍
@yoanwastaken18 күн бұрын
I wonder what's the best way to spend your stars. As of now it is redeeming charms but they're probably going to crash next week when the market hold expires.
@ptreeNA18 күн бұрын
ya I expect charms to die off so honestly.... idk nothing really stands out as something that you could farm on multiple account for free money. I think as supply dries up the cases might be a little low based on the 108k cases that were opened in the last 24 hours. Now that the initial dump is gone and people farming went mostly into cases, if people keep opening these prices are going to creep up
@diederichgarz631718 күн бұрын
nah. just think about recency bias. the moment something new drops everyone rushes to buy passes. most people will not go for passes for a long time.
@ptreeNA18 күн бұрын
100% as I was editing I was thinking about how I should've mentioned that the daily market dumps are going to decrease in size and they already have just in these last few days. If we get another limited item I would expect another dump period but still not as massive as what we have just seen.
@gachigasm321018 күн бұрын
Charms are surprisingly pricy, but I wonder if it has a chance to stay that way. I feel like its the one item that has a chance to just permanently stay in the shop, and the fact that you get 3 detachment tools for each one..
@ptreeNA18 күн бұрын
not being consumable is the only reason I haven't gone all in. With all the different patterns, usability across multiple weapons and fairly high star cost it has everything you need but man.... there's going to be so many. I think if we get team charms for the major that's where the money will be
@TheRealCartman218 күн бұрын
@@ptreeNAagents aren’t consumeable either
@night309418 күн бұрын
200$ for m4 fade 💀💀💀💀
@ptreeNA18 күн бұрын
personally I think prices have mostly settled but time will tell. can't say I would complain about that though
@Fluskar18 күн бұрын
shiiit i aint complaining
@bladerunner442518 күн бұрын
According to previous operations data, even if these collections will stay only for a few months, the reds will go a little under 100€
@candyy1234518 күн бұрын
we are COOKED brother
@ptreeNA18 күн бұрын
it aint ideal I can tell you that but I do enjoy seeing my old operation items going up, case unboxing numbers up this week and expensive stickers getting applied. The armory might be cooked for a long time but you don't have to 👌
@candyy1234518 күн бұрын
@@ptreeNA staying hopeful for some actual content update either after major or next year. surely cs2 isnt just a cash cow now and we can have good things too ,right....
@ptreeNA18 күн бұрын
the updates to model movements have made a massive difference and I actually enjoy playing. That being said MAN do I crash often and the map pool is garbage. Some optimization to performance and net code I don't think I will ever go back to cs:go 10 mans but maybe that's just me. I didn't know how much blowing smokes open actually mattered until I played cache again