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The book beloved was an excellent read. However when it comes down to making a movie such as Beloved there is too much that has been cut out of the movie and left on the cutting room floor. I think a person should always read the book first then you know exactly what's going on and you also know what's been cut out of the movie. Just a thought I also enjoyed the movie 🍿 🎥

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Not sleeping with other people lol

It's not that the film was confusing (at least for me). It's that it was bleak and traumatic AF. My mom got a totally different impression of what the film would be like based on how they talked it up on Oprah, like it was something beautiful, so she thought it'd be something nice to see with me, her young teen daughter. Well, by the time they got to showing those men taking her milk and torturing them, I was ready to walk out (we stayed, though). That was the first, and last, time I ever wanted to walk out on a film. As a horror junkie, I have watched some of the most brutal on-screen violence and disturbing content ever, but Beloved is something that I'd never watch again. I'm also an avid reader, and I'm not trying to read that. I think that film started my exhaustion with slavery films/stories early, and I've not gone to see any since. If I'm absorbing anything, it'll be non-fiction books and documentaries.

The power is in the womans hands were ever how ever the direction flow of the relationships starts or ends with the woman mia was the good girl remember or so we all thought in the beginning she wasnt giving it up a virgin lance wasnt a good boy lance wasnt saving himself i believe mia new all that in the beginning just because hes now with you dosent mean he stops bed hopping he did eventually the mature thing the right thing would have been to leave him at first sign of cheating you want the cheating to stop leave! Lance would've stop the cheating then commmitted cuase the issue with lance was commitment and being faithful

My thing is this i get with a man we fall in love he cheats i find out remains with him in a, relationship that man so now that man continues to cheat i still dont leave theres no break up with him he dosent break up with me now i becomes so fed up with my significant others infedelities i decides to cheats back and with whom the cheat back is with? his very own friend whom i know been having feelings for me been wanted to get with me honestly there both wrong but in the case of whose most wrong mia and there i said it you cheat back okay cool but your back is someone whom some would consider your future husband family member that close of a friend it was premeditated and thats not how adults mature adults who dont wont the drama neither wants do they want this mess to come back bite em the ahz it all comes out in the wash mia shouldve broke up left let that bad karma be on lance for being unfaithful especially when you know in the back of your mind you done right by that person.

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Its probably like a urbanized bootleg exorcist with slavery rascism sprinkle in my first thought back in the day when beloved first came out quite as its kept alot blk folk was saying how oprah did the beloved to spite or make her own version the color purple and it fail lol people still went out paid watch the color purple and liked it more til this day i think the main reason oprah still shame of doing the movie beloved is because of that expect alone another thing i wasnt surprised about the failure of the color purple the remake why not no remake of beloved the color purple is what elevated popularized whoopie acting career the movie was about whoopie who played celie

I’m not going to go as far as insulting anyone’s intelligence, but this is a complicated work. It did not translate well into live action, and if you didn’t read the novel you can be easily confused by what’s going on. I think the director was infatuated with the “look” and style, and less with telling the actual story. Unfortunately at the length of this movie, I can tell about 45 minutes might have been cut to streamline the movie and give it a R rating. Those edited scenes might have helped. It might have done better as a mini series on HBO.

I remember watching this as a kid but i thought it was a fever dream or a mis-momery where i was thinking of the Color Purple but I didn't remember the cast correctly

Read the book. It’s better as a book

I’m from New Orleans and NEVER knew about Gov. Pinchback…thanks for that info

Powerful movie and book. The younger generation needs to read, learn and see everything that the ancestors went through all while trying to build a dream and life for them 😢

For your information, I hated players club when it came out. 😒My name is Ebony and I was in middle school when it came out, but once I got to high school, folks used to always come and all, “you gone do Jr’s bachelor party??” Mind you I had already been SA’d by a few family members so it was hella traumatic for me. However as an adult I can appreciate the movie being made to show young girls like hey, yes it’s quick fast money BUT there can also be down sides to that lifestyle. And yeaaaaaa Ronnie was sorry af for pimping her out like that. I don’t think that she felt jr was gone go that far BUT she most definitely knew her brother would be up to no good. Hell everybody in there looked sketchy 😭

124…. I think in the movie Beloved was almost like a succubus for Paul D. We know she wanted Sethe to herself, and to get him away, she knew that she would be successful in THAT manner because of the type of man Paul D was and him and Sethe’s real relationship

Yes I would have. 😢 Some Women do it everyday in present day society. Making the hard decision of terminating pregnancy because life wouldn’t be suitable for whatever they know their reasons are. Setha went through atrocities & circumstances we couldn’t even imagine! No matter how hard it is to be a woman / mother nowadays it Isn’t as hard as life was for her. 😢 🙏🏿

I like this movie more than I liked the color purple

I never read the book, but I absolutely understood the movie wholeheartedly, that girls spirit coming back to earth in flesh and having the gall to get pregnant and attempt to give birth was doing the most. How dare you!

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I definitely understand why she did it. But NOBODY knows the plans God has for peoples lives. She could have killed a great leader. So yes it was the right thing to do but she had no right to take another persons life. She doesn’t know what greatness she could have killed.

It grossed me out, never got to the end and i was told its good i didn't get to the end.

Landed ❤ I think Harpo is decent because it was not in his nature to beat his wife, but he's at his wits' end with no solution and was too far gone to stop. I believe they had love for each other but needed to mature. Otherwise, she could've stayed with Buster. Sidenote: I really enjoy yall's content and rich, thought provoking conversations. That's why I stay till the end. 😊

The movie is really good didn’t even know it was a book it’s just underrated

Wait, Beloved flopped as a film? 🤔 Everyone I know loves the movie

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This movie had THE BEST quotes! I randomly recite lines still! "Thin love ain't no love at all'

I've loved this movie and book since it was released! The movie was great to me, but the BOOK.... MY GOD

Beloveds mush mouth also pissed me off the entire movie 😂

When i first saw beloved i didn't understand why she unalived the children. Still gut wrenching.

The grandmother was like a high priestess in the book. The movie missed some parts that could have explained the movie. It was deeper than the movie.

Let's be real, white America could never, understand brown or black people's plight. So why would you expect them to understand this film. If they understood this film, they would have to admit to their hand in all form of slavery. They are still in denial to this day.

I thought the body was simply that of a woman who had recently died , and was just reanimated by the spirit of “Beloved “

Celie is ignorant. Mister beats her, and it works. It works to subdue her and keep her fearful. Mister had just beat her prior to this scene; she has a black eye when advising Harpo. So she tells Harpo what she only knows. Sophia, despite the men in her family, comes from a strong matriarchy through her sisters, her mother, and her aunts. Sophia wants her own life and household to be different, so she chose Harpo who is stupid but sweet (we know they do love each because they do come back to each other) and, mostly, because he's not violent and controlling. She's bossy because Harpo is lazy and full of excuses and needs to be told what to do to get their new home in order. Harpo goes from a goofy son who can't do anything right and can't stand up for himself in front of his father to Sophia with whom he still can't get himself right. Sophia was never going to back down in her life to anyone; she just makes the mistake of knocking out the mayor- there's ALWAYS a limit to one's own power. Harpo chooses Squeak because she's young and gullible, so he finally finds someone who is not convinced of her own power as Sophia is and feels good that he's finally able to call the shots and do what he wants. He never marries Squeak; he even puts Sophia before Squeak. We know he has promised Squeak part ownership of the juke joint and still recognizes Sophia as his wife, who he must (wants) to prioritize. Sophia and Harpo reconcile. They stop trying to one-up each other and control each other. Harpo even becomes a man seeing the faults in his father's approach to life. Even Mister sees Harpo differently. Harpo can be redeemed because he's not a true abuser the way Mister is with Celie and the way Celie's stepfather was with her. He changes. Only then, does Sophia accept him. They are also much older by the time they get back together; their children are grown and gone. And now, they are back to page one of their relationship except now with healthier boundaries. Harpo is decent; he just stood on bad advice and put his pride above his family; and Sophia, who could have left after the first beating, was hellbent on keeping her family together under the notion that he would eventually stop if she kept fighting back. Sophia is a real "ballbuster", not because she hates her husband or men, but because she is very specific about what she wants, and she works hard for it and expects the people around her to work hard too. She knocks out Squeak because she comes out of pocket; she knocks out the Mayor because his wife was out of pocket. She only fights when she feels she has to defend herself or her kids. There's a difference in a beating because of discipline ("I'm worried that the world will do worse to you if you act like this out there, so I feel I have to scare the hell out of you and give you enough pain now that you will grow to fear it later" versus a beating because "I want to hurt you and exercise MY power and will over you by torturing you; I want to be a danger to you, and I want you to know I'm dangerous". Both hurt and cause damage, but the first one should never crossover into the second one. It's a controversial practice, and the outcome can be just as impactful as abuse. Sophia's response to Celie is not advice. Sophia recognizes that Celie has no hope in her own life (which is why Celie mentions the afterlife) and that Mister beats her and keeps her fearful. She's basically telling Celie to not let her beliefs about what she puts up with determine what all women should put up with. She changes her mind on this later when Celie threatens Mister at Easter dinner. She's experienced the negative extent of fighting back. Prison is not empowering, and she warns Celie not swap one prison for another. Lesson: Weigh the cost of waging war. Mister withholding Nettie's letters is one abusive act too far for Celie. He means to make himself feel powerful through his knowledge of the letters- that's why he kept every single one. That's beating someone when they are already down; it's far more insidious than being petty. And he has to lose everything up to his soul to come back around to 'good'. Harpo doesn't have to travel that far to get back to 'good' because Sophia never stopped fighting for what she wanted out of life. Celie is driven almost to the ultimate act of taken Mister's life (on more than one occassion). Lesson: Expect that so far as you push somone, so far they will eventually go. Squeak decides to prioritize herself over Harpo, and Sophia saves Celie from killing Mister out of rage and is reborn in her own power by forgiving herself of her past decisions.

Big as I am❤I enjoy this review. I Think Shelia asked Troy if he was married to kind of check him for the comments he made. “If you were my wife…. “Since he said he was divorced, I think her response to him ment, “you can’t tell me nothing. You don’t even have your wife anymore. “

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Great show you two! I don't know how the algorithm brought you to me, but I am glad it did. I think you both have some really interesting ideas and questions about this book. Regarding why Beloved is haunting Sethe, I wonder if it is a kind personification of subconscious doubt. Not because she did the wrong thing, but because it would be traumatizing to kill one of the kids, have the others survive and then live their lives. The demon is not necessarily Beloved but something that took advantage of the opening, shaping itself into the build of what Sethe could have subconsciously imagined Beloved to be like had she not succeeded. That said, I am likely just building my own fancies into the text. Regardless, you two are great hosts, and I would love to hear your thoughts on any Spike Lee movie.

Doing my late night shift just watching all y’all videos great channel yall keep it up because I need to get by these days lol

she didn’t do anything wrong tbh.

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In The Green Mile movie, when John Coffey dies, he tells the executioner, "Tell God, its a kindness you did" When I think about the insanity of slavery...smh It makes me chill to the bone.

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One last comment at the end when Ebony took Diamond old job Diamond was dressed for her graduation that day

I read the novel before the movie and I agree that you can understand the story better if you already know the details that were left out. I shared the book & movie with my children also (when they were of an appropriate age) so they could understand that the real horror of the movie was not the spirit or what Sethe did, but WHY she did it. History teaches us that the atrocities of slavery happened, but it's impersonal to most. A story like this sort of forces people to think about the human beings that suffered through it.