I've been using this exact setup for around 8 months now, and I can confidently say that it's kinda bad. For context: - GTX 1070 - i5 9400F - 16 GB of DDR4 - Using NixOS unstable branch (rolling-release branch) in my flake (have tried running stable as well) - Proprietary Nvidia drivers (tried both the latest release and the stable release) Here are some issues I've encountered: 1. Shit breaks, and it breaks all the time. Well, sometimes it doesn't work in the first place. Every update is a gamble. Will it break? What will be the issue this time? Is it a NixOS issue? A Hyprland issue? A Wayland issue? An Nvidia issue? Some combination of the above? The worst part is that you're just left there waiting until the next commit which, hopefully, will fix your issue, which is different every time. Sure, you could roll back to the stable commit if you're using overlays, but it doesn't always work and it's a pain the in the ass. 2. The gaming performance is atrocious. Awful input delay and constant flickering issues. 3. Random miscellaneous issues, e.g. flickering, stuttering, input delay, crashes, etc. I installed XFCE alongside Hyprland a few weeks ago for gaming purposes, but over the last few days I've been using XFCE exclusively, and I've had no issues doing anything. NONE. You could give Hyprland a try, sure. But I have, and I'm a bit underwhelmed to say the least.

​@@minecraftpufferfish9066 So the main problem was basically how GTX 1070 worked on Hyprland(Wayland)?

@@sher1x165 that main problem was basically that I constantly experienced problems and didn't know what exactly caused them. I am currenly using this exact setup, but I have tweaked some environment variables and everything seems to work decently, but not as well as KDE on Wayland.

@@minecraftpufferfish9066 so now you're using Hyprland again?

Haha, me too

​@@MumblingHugo hey buddy , i was going to sleep but search about this and found your video. I will surely see this in morning But can you help me i am trying to run hyprland on nvidia but its using intel integrated card and even i can share screen in google meet Too much problem tried every possible solution Please help me out brother I am using ARCH

I put it in another video, have you seen kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmbJoXSFgt2lqLM

Gaming for me on AMD GPU was fine when I had one before, but in general my issue with AMD is that it needs additional tinkering for obs studio, I'd probably go with either nobara or PikaOS, as they both have optimization for AMD GPU

And what about using gamescope?

I'm using the same setup now on endeavour, no flickering found

@@julioau gamescope right now is broken under 555, it crashes when games detect certain inputs, Nvidia made a comment on one of the forums, I don't remember if it was on nvidia page but it was from one of the official Nvidia accounts quote: 'we broke gamescope with an oversight on the 555 build, but it will be fix for 560 stable', so you either deal with wayland flickering 550 driver or deal with no working gamescope for 555 driver, pick your poison

@@korigun I have an Nvidia GPU that supports 555, but for some reason, Optimus makes everything work all the time, no issues at all and I can verify that it's running things on the Nvidia GPU instead of the Intel one... Though that behaviour makes no sense to me, Optimus should only complicate things further... Anyways, on another note I recently uninstalled the driver and I'm getting 7+ hours of battery life on an i7 7500U and a 42Wh battery, which I find impressive :D

I've been trying 555 on hyprland in endeavor this week, no flickering anymore but some minor issues when switching between hyprland and plasma

@MumblingHugo thank you for your answer. 😃

It depends on what games you want to play with your friends, I had no issues playing last epoch recently, Linux was loading new maps faster on my PC compared to theirs on Windows

minecraft java on linux work faster than on windows

I'm thinking the same thing because I already have the setup with Endeavour OS, but I need to see how long it will take me to go through the major fix list, and how to make the comparison visible enough for people to understand. Probably doing it this weekend and see if I can catch the trend.

Me neither, I was surprised when the numbers were out, but I think hyprland will pass x11 gnome very soon

I was surprised when the numbers were out, but I think hyprland will pass x11 gnome very soon

GNOME is just the bigger project therefore more optimizations which means more FPS in games since more people try them in GNOME as compared to Hyprland.

Sure, changed the title

Thanks, will try it

Pinning this comment, for others as reference

It already did and it fixed all the issues.

I've tried it on arch, not sure what's their plan to pull it in the popos repo

Sigh, I want to, but our company really doesn't like homebrew on the company machine, it will mess up with the dev settings, resulting in lots of restrictions in picking up applications, I'll setup homebrew in the home dir when having some time. Thanks for the suggestions.

@@MumblingHugo you can also build it locally, that is what I do too

Maybe, but for me lutris is the easiest to migrate all the save files to new distribution

That would be your call, I'm just presenting how to use each one

Did it solve the issue once and for all?

@@MumblingHugo yes it did for me, but I can't say for certain it will work for you (but it likely will as it fixed it for me so still give it a shot). Just delete the driver, and restart, then reinstall (instructions on their website somewhere) and then restart. That fixed it for me.

Nice, thanks for that

I did try but failed, these are the things I've successfully made her stick to, I had videos making my father use Linux, he's been on it for 2 years now, no more windows since then

Right right, I started working on this video because in the system76 presentation, their CEO mentioned that they wanted people to test gaming on it, I'll try it again once it's fully out

It's because the video was recorded with an older build of COSMIC. OBS and other issues are resolved in the current development builds.

why?

Agreed, that should be a better interpretation

@@MumblingHugo No, you did a good job, everybody just talks about how fast it is with no proof of that. I may install it anyway because I'm looking for an Arch distro that has an easy install process

I see, thanks for the suggestions, I don't see the display in x11, I shall give it a try anyways

Oh that's good to know, the flicker issue is the only thing that stopped me from using Wayland now

@@MumblingHugo wlroots is going to take a while as we only recently had the major release of 0.17, and is targeting 0.18, so Sway and anything else using it will take some time, but the major desktops and Hyprland both seem to be implementing it relatively quickly :)

Hmm is my title too click baity? Maybe "a quick look" is better than "first impression" to fit my content? I was just checking the status of the alpha version. Sorry for tricking you to click on this.

@@MumblingHugo They have the same meaning :D Don't worry Hugo, still liked the video, even took a look at what cosmic is :)

Wayland is just better bro, it would take years if we wait for it to be perfect. I'm using Gnome-Wayland on my Laptop with Ryzen 5 4600H and Dual GPU (Integrated and GTX 1650). It feels so much better than X11.

I shall give it a try, thanks for suggesting

It's less about what it brings to the table and more about System76 not having to deal with the Gnome team's BS. They have a reputation for being a PITA to work with. As far as Wayland goes it's newer and more secure than x11 since x11 has been pretty much dead in the water for years at this point.