....Nomura really kills me the more he speaks. Multiverse=excuse for bad, inconsistent writing. Good writing = dynamic story, characters about whom you care. I am 100% fine with changes, the OG has some dumb stuff...but an unclear story that is confusing by intention, just to mess with with people, is not clever.

Great games! They still must have made a huge profit on the FF7 remakes I haven’t played a new Final Fantasy for years! They are all very similar but 7 is the standout

FF7 remake underpreformed out of the gate. It did so poorly overall that Square jumped ship away from Sony. The insanity of that cannot be understated.

Their exclusivity deal with Playstation ended, and 16 is out on PC, so that should help kick up sales.

I’m glad rebirth failed and glad I skipped it. I knew this hack would ruin it. Remake part 1 was awful and nomura making excuses for his dumb decisions is laughable. I play ff7 og atleast once a year. Nomura needs to just stick to kingdom hearts or character designer.

its sad to see all this negavitiy around a game that, imo, was game of the year. This game was perfect, with the exception that it wasnt concluded, but we all knew it wouldnt be.

I have been playing the many FFVII compilations as well as the original for 25 years. You never gonna please the many FFVII fans, so try pleasing as many as possible with multiple endings. Like after rebirth's ending, they can have their many arguments for years to come.

FF was on top of the RPG market with FF6-10... perhaps they should ditch the action RPG elements and go back to traditional rpg game play. I been saying it for a bunch of other games that lost their way. Halo needs to go back to slow arena game play like Halo 3, paper mario needs to go back to action command turn based rpg like TTYD, Fallout should go back to the top down narrative gameplay like FO2. CoD Zombies should go back to round based non-warzone influenced game play like BO3. It's absurd that I have to say this out loud, its almost common sense. The series got popular off game or games that followed a certain way of playing. Changing it and wondering why sales are low is so dumb. Make a game like FFXVI, I enjoyed it, but don't call it a final fantasy when it has no gameplay relation to the original games.

The fact that Nomura says he doesn't think many people have been playing FF7 for 20 years shows how out of touch this guy is with the FF7 fanbase. It's no surprise Remake and Rebirth have not been the mega blockbusters they were expecting. Their disconnect with the FF7 fans who have kept the franchise alive is so obvious with comments like these.

I've never seen cuter carrots 😂. Thanks for that!

The "what you cherish most" thing is a clear reference to AC. Which, when Sephiroth asks Cloud what he cherishes most, Cloud's response is "there's not a thing I don't cherish" which implies that what's actually being referred to (in addition to Aerith like the OG) is *everything*. Which, with the multiple worlds shenanigans, could mean a bunch of things - like, Sephiroth trying to destroy all of them, but also, if there is a version of a world where Cloud gets a truly happy ending or can set things right, to achieve that world, the other possible worlds, possibly the world of the OG and AC, would cease to exist.

Something that has bothered me since this interview, and before it too, is the people that say "They are just combining the compilation lore all into one game/story so there won't be big changes" Like, by combining some of the stuff that happens in the compilation, you are bringing in aspects of the lifestream straight up saving people, Genesis in CC/Cloud in AC, not to mention what the whispers bring to the table. Now, with that said, Aeriths fate is still up in the air and if they bring in Crisis Core elements....why is it such a no go area for the planet/lifestream to give her the same treatment it gave Genesis of all people? would also make sense cause when she meets Zack in Part 3, he can be the one to mention that he saw the lifestream return someone before which triggers Zack to seek out Genesis and ask him about it. Because of the random bugenhagen lore that the reason for his long life is because he has a hint of Cetra blood (or something like that) what if Aerith gets the Genesis treatment but gives up her long life that she would've had in return just to fulfil her desire, like Genesis's desire to fulfil his SOLDIER honour, to have a normal life with her friends, with her role to play in the lifestream waiting for her. That would be a Sweet way of bringing the lore into one package. I'm sure purists will scoff at this idea but screw them. give the people a actual happy ending and have the changes be for something worthwhile, cause just leading into the Mid AC and terrible Dirge is NOT it lol. Random ramble number 26 over haha

Nomura is what those with useless lit. degrees refer to as "an unreliable creator." Pt. 03'll be subtitled "Return" just to really stick the carrot in and twist it, before someone goes "Oh, uh, no, that's just -you know how much we love Star Wars, right?" Frustratingly, I can see room in that language used to backtrack on the whole "sequel confirmed" thing, but we know it's a sequel. We literally have two characters from the original, and beyond that, I'm not sure how much it's worth caring whether or not it's the same stage(s). And we know it takes place on Earth -sorry, "Earith" (I'll see myself out). Looking forward to the proper theory-crafting. You may've been a bit late to the summation game, but we're starving out here for some real meaty ideas going forward. 'Preciate your work.

I'm coming up with different scenes in my head for the finale of Part 3 of Rebirth, lol! I believe that Part 3 will come out in 2027, during the 30th anniversary release of the original Final Fantasy VII game in 1997. I think that both the OG and FFVII Remake merged and Sephiroth killed Aerith in our timeline. I noticed that OG Sephiroth was the one from the OG timeline in 1997, judging how he killed Aerith. It took me YEARS to figure that out! But what about the last Sephiroth in the cutscene at the Edge of Creation back in Remake? The one that appeared in Rebirth at the end with Rufus when he was puppeteering Glenn? He caught my interest at the end of Remake immediately! I'm very interested about him! I noticed a HUGE personality difference in him, too!

How interesting that Aerith's original character was split when Tifa came along. One of the things I loved about the OG was the friendship between Aerith and Tifa, and how they complement each other. Now I know how it happened! Thanks for another great, instructive video.

I'm pretty stunned by that one new comment. I feel like time and memories in this story are like flowing water. There's a general direction of flow, but every bubble can be different.

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SE expectations are always too high. FF7R was overly ambitious and they simply took too long. Making it 3 parts was a huge mistake too. If the remake was just better graphics and updated gameplay while keeping the story the same and none of that alternate universe crap, then maybe it would be better. FF7R was more of a reimagining than a remake. They could have had the full game release at once but their ambition got the better of them. 🙄

A lot of people don't like these games for very different reasons. This in and of itself is a difficult issue to tackle. People these days are very divided on what they want from Final Fantasy and when they didn't get something they wanted from Remake they hard noped away from Rebirth.

I don’t think the sales expectations are too high on the games, it’s just extremely expensive to make games these days and 16 was in development for almost 7 years so they need alot of sales to make the desired profit margin.

dont see why people keep saying the remake series is trashing the original story.... if you played og ff7 and played remake through rebirth... your literally at the same point storywise. the only real difference is the story is more fleshed out. the Gi are a real part of the world now for example

I don't think Square-Enix anticipated the amount of drop-off from Remake to Rebirth. The PS5 has 60 million units currently in consumer hands. Spider-Man 2 managed 10 million units sold. So their expectations probably weren't completely unrealistic. Too high? Definitely, but not unrealistic. Everyone has their own theories as to why sales were low. It's really just a combination of factors. The biggest being PS5 exclusivity. Final Fantasy XV did well being multi-platform. I also think Final Fantasy converting to action games and ditching RPG mechanics is doing damage. Maybe not much. But it adds up. They're trying to appeal to a larger market (and more money) by completely changing the game's identity. This rarely works. I'm thinking of things like Robocop and Die Hard. Franchises that were R-rated action films that went PG-13 to market to a broader audience, losing some of what made them special to begin with. Or, in gaming terms, imagine if the next Call of Duty was made into a cartoony 5v5 hero shooter to appeal to a "younger audience." No one is buying that. For the record, I'm not suggesting that Final Fantasy go back to turn-based combat or stay stuck in the past. A franchise does need to grow and change to stay relevant. What I am suggesting is that Square-Enix needs to tamper their expectations if they're going to cater to a different audience. It's basically a new and different franchise now, despite the naming convention.

I feel exactly as you do. I find it boring and trite, but a logical necessity to discuss occasionally. I respectfully disagree on the opinion of Rebirth; to me, Chapter 14 was a disaster that heavily wrecks the game for me.

Coincidentally the lack of consistency comes after the departure of Hironobu Sakaguchi as the producer of the series.

Final Fantasy must be Turn Based Combat

Exclusivity deals are proven to cut down purchases lol someone needs to do the math at square... jackasses

I definitely feel like FFX was the last great FF before the Remake trilogy, and that FF as a series hasn't been the same since Sakaguchi left. The entire creative direction of the franchise feels schizophrenic and they've been trying to chase Western action RPG trends instead of doing their own thing. I'd be happy if they stick with the hybrid gameplay of Rebirth, but I also think that every aspect of the games has been lacking for a long time. Older FFs are so good because there's a kind of authenticity and heart there, which is partly why Remake works so well--it expands on what was already there--whereas a lot of the newer games feel hollow, like a collection of tropes instead of well-defined characters and a coherent story. 16 was the closest they've gotten to a return to form for me, but the lack of core RPG elements was off-putting, the exploration was non-existent, and I really didn't care about the characters very much. Rebirth is a masterpiece, but I don't consider that a "new" FF.

Yep

I would've bought both games if I could afford a PS5.

Stop making sense, would ya?

I would’ve loved to explore FFXVI’s cities & had the quests been in the cities, have a warrant option where you fight guards & have to escape them equivalent to GTA. Something fun. You never get to visit to Rosalith or the Holy Empire in its peak glory.

Putting the story in 4 parts will kill the 2nd part. Lol but rebirth was soon good.

In SpongeBob voice concerning Final Fantasy VII Rebirth: Oh, no, not again! That's probaby because people want AERITH to LIVE and for the story to remain the SAME like in 1997 when it first released! There are also a lot of people who are nostalgic for it who don't want the original FFVII to change.

Rebirth is currently leading the race for GOTY so I hope these sales expectations don’t hinder development of part 3. For the future of the series I hope they stick with Rebirth’s combat system. Rebirth combat with job classes would be cool. Expedition 33 is looking to have a really good turn based combat system too that Square should take note of

They need to make their graphics style like BOTW, then take all that extra processing power and make a huge world with a great story. They need to make both action and turn based. They can keep the numbering system for the action games and make a Final fantasy classic series that uses 2.5d and turn base. This keeps both groups happy and might get more people interested in the other series.

Maybe if square enix probably make single player games besides pushing out 16 different live service mobile games and burning money. The expectations can be met lol. It simply goes down to Squares ridiculous money management as a company if “expectations aren’t met” every time

FFVII Rebirth is below expectations because it was a PS5 exclusive and A LOT of people still can't afford a PS5, when the PC port releases the sales will pick up.

I think square have an issue of promoting some of their smaller projects like Octopath traveller 2 and brave default. Some of them are decent games but I don't hear anyone talking about them and maybe square step into the line of smaller budgets double A so to speak in order to keep the term based community happy. As for the porting issue I wouldn't say porting would take things away I think what square needs to do is either form or buy a porting studio and leave to developers alone and leave the porting to this new studio this would help to give the original developers a bit of a break without worrying about ports. kind of like what Sony did when they bought that porting studio nixxes. Their ports have been pretty good so far. I think square should take a page from that. Let's also take into account when it comes to sequels sometimes they don't do as good as the original not because of the quality but sometimes there are people who just didn't like the original and won't be getting the sequel might be happening in rebirth's case.

Always been a huge final fantasy since the original, when i was 5 years old. For me, Ff7r series =9.5/10 ff16 =8/10 ...and id say FF series in general is waay above other competing franchises by ALOT . Old fans who dont like the changes to the gameplay are snowflakes. the change up of systems is exciting! 2 3 9 and 11 are the worst in the series for me by far. (The games where the didint innovate)

Nomura and his pals have extremely inflated egos. Just like any "new artist" getting a little bit of creative control, they all think they can eclipse the "boring" original FF7 with their "fresh, new" perspectives. The new kid, Hamaguchi, has even gone so far as to say that the last part of the trilogy could be the "best game ever made". And they think they can do this with flashy new graphics and loud action scenes. But, they have turned off a sizeable portion of FF7 and general Final Fantasy fans. Younger fans love the new approach, because they grew up with Kingdom Hearts. But older fans appreciate the older Final Fantasies, including FF7, BECAUSE they are totally not like Kingdom Hearts. It is no surprise to fans of classic FF why games like FF16 and Rebirth underperformed. Nomura and his team are too egotistical to see how tired and overused the "fresh, new" material they brought into Remake and Rebirth really is.

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I honestly wouldnt be mad if they sold costumes to reach goals.

Dude there's still padding mt corel gongaga and trying to make excuses for this awful game just proves my point to vote with my wallet

Did you get to try out the newest superlight?