Not even close, PSA actually cares about their customers and FN is crap. I'd never pay today's prices for a SCAR but I got both this and the 17s for significantly less in 2016 and 2013. The 17s on the other hand is the best 7.62x51 platform in its weight class.

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Lol, you're not wrong. It is dumb, and I hated it like that, but a bunch of good rifle lights takes time to accumulate. All of my rifles have Cloud Rein 2, or Rein 3's on them now.

It is expensive. I firmly believe in buying once and crying once!

12 o'clock position, the setting for normal operations.

@@ConcealedSteel I assume it vents too much gas and does not run reliably in the suppressed setting?

@tehlawlcat I never tried it but based on the ejection that I'm getting it would probably be a little light on gas. I have a discarder on that gun now and I run it down 3-4 click from max open. The gun runs perfectly like that with underpowered ammo. It may actually run on the lower OEM gas setting.

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@@ConcealedSteel from your experience what would you recommend for a 6mm bolt action rifle. Hydrogen L raptor 10 with the reflex ocl polonium cat jl/obd or resilient jolene full size

@sethperry1323 I'm going to be no help here, lol. I don't have a 6mm. For me, I'd probably approach that choice thinking about versatility, or, what else would I use that silencer on. If it's only for a bolt gun that I intend to hunt with I'm probably getting the CAT ODB in titanium. The Hydrogen L, JL, AB10, Nomad L, DD Enticer LTI, etc, are longer than I want to deal with on an already long rifle while hunting. Also, If I'm in a scenario where I only shoot at public ranges, I'd also go shorter/lighter, because you'll never hear it without hearing protection anyway. Best answer is to check out prescience rankings.

@@sethperry1323in theory, for a bolt gun, low back pressure cans are a waste for you. Go caliber specific, and find the tipping point for length/performance. Low back pressure = louder at the muzzle. You will get performance from a standard type can on a bolt gun.

Any of these will do you well! I love the flow 762 on my SCAR 17 because it's so light, the flow 556k on my 16, and the 718 ODB on my 8" Galil 7.62x39. The ODB sounds unbelievable on an 8" 7.62x39.

@@ConcealedSteel thanks again for that info man I’ll probably go with the 762 TI so I can just throw their muzzle on both guns and see how it goes!

Agreed, reflective surfaces certainly change what you hear as a shooter.

A bunch of larue index clips! They are awesome.

Nice.

If you get the hub version like I did they do. I want to leave my HUXWRX muzzle devices on...I'm sure you've figured it out from the video by now.

@@ConcealedSteel it looked like you needed modification, I wonder if there is always modification or if some muzzle devices would not work

The only reason was because I wanted to use proprietary HUXWRX muzzle devices with this hub silencer. This is a normal hub silencer and any normal hub mount and accessories will work. Huxwrx qd muzzle devices are not made to work with hub cans. The adapter that I bought and modified is no standard mount by any means. Hub is hub (which is 1.375x24 thread pitch), and will work with any hub, or 1.375x24 mounts perfectly.

I appreciate it, bro.

Glad to help.

The timney wasn't strong enough for some ammo in my gun. I got a lot of light primer strikes on tul ammo 308. That was a deal breaker for me. Other than that, the timney is fine. I've never had a light strike with a geissele (those geisseles are still in both of my SCARs). Lots of rounds through both at this point, I've owned the 17s for around 11 years, and the 16s for going on 8 years now.

And, thank you! Also, I really like a 2 stage trigger over a single stage for all applications. It's just more predictable for my needs!

Supposedly the titanium versions will erode pretty quickly if you get them above 650 deg F. Yeah, I certainly wouldn't recommend getting the titanium version of the ODB for general 5.56 SBR use. I do keep it on this gun at home for the unthinkable. IMO, this can shines the most on a gun that you'd hunt with, or a 300 blackout for subs. The reason that I put it to the test on an 11.5 was purely for science.

@@ConcealedSteel that makes sense! It’s still a kick ass can

It sure is!

You can definitely get away without an adjustable gas block with the trash panda. It's pretty low back pressure.

I want a WB.

@ConcealedSteel highly recommend

It's a plan B compatible/rearden compatible taper mount, full titanium, made by SD Tactical Arms.

The buildup that you refer to is not buildup. It's material that is there by design inside the blast chamber. Don't be hater. The previous video was on DI guns.

@popnetwork9106 I've got some videos running the odb on a few di hosts

Appreciate it. I have rein 2s and 3s on my rifles now! That was years ago.

Nice! Three of my favorites for sure.

My first silencer was the 36M and it was the correct choice. I got to use it on everything while I waited for others to clear.

@ConcealedSteel so ur saying, the others didn't provide any better performance than the 36m

Not what I said at all. I think you should really decide what is most important to you from the factors of, weight, length, muzzle suppression, shooter's ear suppression, back pressure, etc, as well as ability to work on more platforms than 5.56. Also, don't ever forget that wearing hearing protection is pretty much mandatory for anything over a couple of rounds f you don't want to lose your hearing. So splitting hairs over a few decibels isn't worth the witch hunt IMO.

That's an 8".

@@ConcealedSteelsounds beautiful! What pedal was that , that you turned on to rock out?

Thanks, bro. That was a Wampler black '65.

I hope I never have to find out, but based on how interactive and reasonable they sound on reddit and these comments I'm willing to take the chance.

@ConcealedSteel I hope you and any others that use direct thread system are taken care of.

Nice, I'll bet that wb is the bomb.. I need one of those as well. I picked up my 718 ODB hub this past week.

Thank you! Love that you guys checked my channel out. I found a 718 a few weeks ago at a shop in GA and got it shipped up to my SOT (through my SS account of course). Picking up today!

Thanks! Sorry, haven't shot the ventum or velos yet.

Appreciate it!

Glad to help.

Glad to help, you're going to love the 556k!

They are both awesome!

I purchased the 629 Classic that has the full barrel under lug that seems to help with muzzle flip. If I was going to use a 44 magnum for hunting I might have gone with the RedHawk with a 7.5 barrel.

5 is a great length.

Nice, congrats!

Always good to see a young man with his stuff together… congratulations

Happy birthday, and congrats on the awesome bday gift.

It's truly difficult for me to tell without real sound testing equipment. Also, there are different performance metrics that could be better to you vs me, etc. Lol, not trying to be difficult, but it depends on what you value more with respect to noise at muzzle, noise at shooter, open field, closed space, back pressure, gas to shooter. What I can tell you is that both sound very good. The Titanium ODB is 3 oz or so lighter, but the difference in weight is not noticeable to me. They both sound very very good on the 17. They both induce very very low amounts of back pressure (almost imperceivable with both). In the open field I'm not sure I'd be able to tell much of a difference in the sound at the shooter. The Flow 762 has zero restrictions on firing schedule which is nice. The TI ODB can't get over 650 deg F or it will rapidly degrade on the inside. 7 shots on the 17 and I was at 550 deg with the TI ODB.

I'm glad you liked it.

No gas with either. Thats another reason that I was pointing out the ejection pattern. Typically the Carter forward your ejection is, means that there is more back pressure, and more gas around the rear of the receiver.

@@ConcealedSteel Are you using both cans on the scar on the unsuppressed gas setting or does the CAT need to be changed to the suppressed setting?

Both on the same setting; unsuppressed.

I get no gas with either.

Yeah, man. I know other people have the same questions that I do and I try to make videos that I'd want to see.