Im sure we can but I dont think we need to. Non terminal buds are just the rest of the buds and the terminal bud growth ring is where your trees branch stopped growing last season and then started growing out again this season. Its basically where the tip bud stopped for the year and then started again the next year. It creates a "ring" and the back color changes between last years growth and this years growth. That is the terminal bud growth ring.

All of our trees are grown close together. If you were to purchase a 3 gallon tree they will have started to branch out more as they are pruned and spaced out so they can develop a branch structure. With that said our recommendation would be exactly what is stated in this video, prune your tree upon arrival and shape it into the tree youd like it to be. But otherwise no we do not have bush vs tree options available.

@@madisoncitrusnursery thank you, will do

We have buddhas hand available on the website, its such a fun variety to grow!

We made a pruning video that shows the terminal bud growth ring a little better. Its where your tree stopped growing, then started growing again with the next years growth. This video talks about it kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4CwhpyDnJ16osU

Here are two pruning videos that we made to explain how to encourage branching. You would just continue pruning in this method until youve built the branch density you are looking for. kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4CwhpyDnJ16osU kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2aloIOGlLl6gLM

@@madisoncitrusnursery That is super kind of you to take the time to send me links. Thank you ever so much!

Thank you for watching and always giving feedback!

That is the beauty of it, you can do anything youd like to. We dont personally recommend it as pruning just above the terminal bud is too important to us to encourage branching. You "could" air layer much higher then when you cut that off later then prune where you need to for the terminal bud growth ring. You could also just root what you cut off as cuttings, or graft what you cut off as budwood, or just buy 2 trees and have much more fruit much faster. But to each their own!

Thank you

When he snips the top of the tree and mentions pruning above the terminal bud growth ring he says it will branch out there which is how you turn that into a tree. If you want it to be more of a bush you can snip it above the next terminal bud growth ring down and it will branch lower.

If you are pruning trees that are in containers you can prune for shape whenever you want to. If you are talking about in ground trees, I wouldnt prune them until your last frost.

We wait until the new grafted bud has pushed and we know it was successful before we cut the main stem.

@@madisoncitrusnursery thank you!

Thank you for that! We have a handful of videos that just need to get edited and added to youtube. We look forward to getting more online!

Thank you for leaving a comment we hope the video was helpful!

We look forward to getting some grown out and available. Thank you and happy growing!

It does not damage the tree. Its very likely what you heard was no letting an outside layer of plastic touch the tree because plastic conducts the cold and whatever it touches will still freeze. In the case of the plastic bag it has the warmer water in it so the temperature that transfers isnt the freezing cold. In general you want a buffer or insulator between any outside freezing layer of plastic. Thats the not the same thing and the issue isnt "the plastic" its the temperature going through the plastic. I hope this helps.

Thank you SO Much! We are getting freezes in Texas next week so I am going to add this for extra protection!

Hi Adam, thank you for taking the tour and your question. I believe we had sent a response to your chat yesterday but it will be late summer before we have any more available. We did a push on grafting a few more dwarf varieties so we used everything we had available.

Unfortunately we do not. We have a hard time keeping up with the demand from our customers in the US that it does not make business sense to go through extra steps, and processes to sell to customers outside of the US.

We appreciate that. Thank you for adding the link. I also added it to the description.

@madisoncitrusnursery My pleasure

We havent done it but im sure it can be done. Just the fact that you understand it can tend to cause them to dry faster means you may have a good chance at doing it successfully. I have seen people use 511 in a cloth grow bag and never be able to keep up with watering. As long as it makes sense for where you are and you use the appropriate mix you can likely do ok with it. One tip is you can use plastic wrap around the pot in the summer if you find that you are having a hard time keeping up with watering so it doesnt dry out quite as quickly during just those months.

The buds will push through the parafilm. That is why we only wrap them once over the bud. So there is no need to cut it. The parafilm will eventually turn black, deteriorate and fall off on its own later.

Safari is what Hershell recommends for numerous things including scale. Its not cheap but the bottle will last you forever. That is the biggest issue with what nurseries use vs what homeowners or hobbyists would use is cost / size of the container / value you get out of it.

@@madisoncitrusnursery Thank you so much for your super fast response! I will look into getting Safari! My "one of each citrus" addiction requires it!

Thank you, its the little things that often get overlooked.

Thank you. Its grown much bigger than we initially had thought and continues to! Best of luck with your setup!

Hershell said you may want to look into Safari. Its not cheap but it will last you the rest of your days.

Thank you, its always great seeing people successfully growing citrus in some of the colder zones. All the best!

In general going from green to brown isnt a good sign however if you keep the soil moist (not wet) and keep it over 40 degrees then wait and see if it grows any new green growth in the spring. Dont prune anything just wait and see. If its a rooted cutting or a seed grown tree then it has a good chance at growing back, if its grafted then you may get it to grow back or it might come back as rootstock. Dont give up until it doesnt grow at all in the Spring. Fingers crossed!

@madisoncitrusnursery thanks! Should I fertilize as well?

As long as you are protecting it from any further cold temps then you can add some fertilizer as directed on your fertilizer container. Make sure you are protecting it from the cold though.

Thank you for trusting us with your citrus. We definitely have some 3 gallon trees that are huge right now :) Happy growing!

Matthew, Hershell said Safari would be his recommendation but im not sure if you can get it in consumer sizes.

We are happy to help, thank you for watching and leaving some feedback. Its appreciated.

Much like teenagers, young trees spend a little bit of time confused as to what they are supposed to do. Especially if you are keeping them in a greenhouse and giving them altered light. None of that is a "normal" cycle for them.

Thank you Phyllis, we try hard to keep things short and sweet. Citrus want to thrive the easiest way to kill them is to love them too much sometimes :) Thank you for watching and appreciating the content we get Hershell to do!

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Haha I believe this is one of the last ones she plays as much of a role in :)

Thank you for watching and commenting Wade, we appreciate you!

Glad it helped you out and you found what you were looking for!

Grapefruit tend to want to grow big but we have a lot of customers that do have them growing in containers with good success. If you live in an area where its too cold to plant in the ground a larger container is a fine option. We actually really like Genetic Dwarf Grapefruit which is available on our website madisoncitrusnursery.com , its flavor is really good and it does tend to be a little smaller of a tree. I hope that helps, thank you for watching and leaving a question.

All of the plants were given fertilizer injected at the same rate so the nutrient deficiencies you see with a mix seems to have something to do with the mix not the fertilizer. We would love to see any results you get if you were to run a similar experiment so we can compare. But in this test the nutrient deficiencies seem relatively obvious and werent from a lack of fertilizer.

Sta-green actually did incredibly well and is an option we recommend for anyone that would prefer to find something at a big box store. The reason for the test was 2 fold, first to find a good big box store option that someone wouldnt need to pay for shipping to find and second to test our in house mix and nutrient pack vs everything else. The only thing different was the initial precharge of fertilizer that comes with mixes themselves and as a real world test it wouldnt make sense to somehow try to change the product before testing it. We did it just how a consumer would, buy, up pot and then start fertilizing after that.

@madisoncitrusnursery It would be difficult to do a study like this because I just purchased my first 2 citrus plants. From Madison. I also purchased potting nix and fertilizer. I can't wait to get started down the road of citrus in KS. I'm sorry, I was under the impression some plants received different fertilizers. Maybe I need to watch the video again? The sta- green soil definitely looks like a great option for up potting in the future. Thanks for all the great videos. I share them with people I work with. We are all just starting down the citrus rabbit hole. Lol

Thank you for the reply and trusting us with your citrus purchase. Its possible I didnt do a great job explaining. Our mix comes with a starter charge of our 13-6-6, the miracle grows come with a starter charge of whatever they put in it, stagreen has their starter charge and then you get into the 511 which has no starter charge so it only has what you add to it. To the 511 we added our 13-6-6, then one a row with our 13-6-6 + our nutrient mix, then a row of just our nutrient mix. We offer a nutrient mix to amend 511 since most people that make it dont add enough of the minors. Thats why the text was box store mixes and then some 511 nutrient tests. If you or your coworkers have any questions that we can help with, shoot us an email. Thank you and keep growing!

Please let us know the results! Bending the tree over has done well to increase our success rate. Thank you for watching and leaving a comment.

Hey Paul, thank you for the recommendation and well in all honesty its hard to resist putting him on the spot so I might just have to get this one done next time I get a chance. We appreciate you!

There are a few factors to consider, if you are growing in a container then you can get trees shipped to you as soon as the weather is over 40 at night for the week and then you can up pot them and grow them protected in a container. If you are planning on planting the in ground then it likely makes more sense to get your order shipped in the Spring so you can put it in ground then to give it as much time in the ground before protecting it for winter. Where in NC are you located?

@@madisoncitrusnursery In Charlotte

If you were to order soon we would put your order on hold, pull your trees and continue growing them out for you for spring shipping since Charlotte is quite cold right now.

We have an uppotting video that talks about that. The best thing to do is to pull the metal stake up a little bit then tease the bottom of the roots until the root ball is short enough to put in the shorter container. Like you said, you can also bend the root system over and do it or they make taller 3 gallon pots as well.

We do not root prune while up potting in the nursery but lots of people tend to have good results with it. I could see root pruning if you are trying to keep a tree in a similar sized container but it would be best to up pot before it gets root bound.

Thank you, I 100% agree with you. Its all fun and games until you end up with something you almost cant move that no longer fits through the door.

There are always going to be exceptions but if you live in an area where you can grow citrus in the ground then its recommended to do it with 1 gallon trees. Those are the liner trees that farmers use to plant their fields.

Living as I do in zone 8, I have had good results waiting until the citrus have filled a 3-gallon container before planting them (in spring).

Unfortunately TX has laws against importing citrus into the state. They are one of the we states we cant ship to. LA, FL, CA, HI, being some of the others.

@madisoncitrusnursery oh i get it😔. Anyway thank you 😁👍

Absolutely, go as big as you can comfortably move if you have to protect them. I have seen people who have huge containers they move with a forklift so they are able to go that big. Some people also put them on wheels so they can push them around that way.