Excellent point on the 301cc motor. We have used it with good success. I alway say the best mod for a 212cc is a 301cc. It's has double the torque of the 212cc at 17lbs ish heavier. Torque is everything for the loads on these longtails without gearing and the torque on the 301cc is approaching 420cc but it only has 8hp. It also meet lakes and boats with 10hp requirements. That GX270 clone does serious work and it also accepts 420cc intakes and exhausts as well. Its an over looked option that's really good. But most us want more power!!! so we go 420cc and 440cc on the single cylinders. RPM is what gets speed and outboards do that by gearing and stock the honda clones are at 3800k ish. That stock 8hp 301cc will smoke a stage one 11hp 212cc everytime no replacement for displacement in our experience.
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
I need to get me a 301 and try it out someday. I hear lots of good things.
@azlongtales3 жыл бұрын
@@SendItJonBoats very good balance 👌 power to weight and cost ratio
@tomjones78532 жыл бұрын
Water volume is what gives you speed. A giant prop can turn slowly like when powered by a diesel and push way more water per second . Huge ships have slow moving props incomparison to outboards .
@ericbest9562 Жыл бұрын
@@tomjones7853 I tried explaining this to some kids on a airboat video, little props on high turning turbo import 4 cylinders isn't going to do as much as a slow turning V8 with twice the size prop and a more aggressive prop blade angle (bite) they couldn't get it🤷 . It's much easier to change a prop than try and put a transmission in a boat lol
@ReidHenderson3 ай бұрын
Yeah seems like boats need higher rpm and torque for thrust. Seems like a 301 is a good middle between a 420 and a 212. Decent RPM but more torque
@leonjohansson6542 Жыл бұрын
Just found this channel. Now I'm glad I got to see the next sequel to Dumb and Dumber. Thx.
@SendItJonBoats Жыл бұрын
LOL, dumb and dumber part 9 coming soon!
@DONdayce2 жыл бұрын
Any plans on trying out the mini setup with the 79cc Predator?
@SendItJonBoats2 жыл бұрын
I have not bought one of those yet but I need to.
@CalvinSmith-zu2ok Жыл бұрын
10ft flat bottom jon boat with 224 6.6hp predator would you go with the 85in shaft or the 65in,to be used mainly in the river.
@aleemrahim68462 жыл бұрын
So what’s the best size boat for a 420 motor and 2-3 people to ride comfortably?
@SendItJonBoats2 жыл бұрын
1436 up to a 1748. It wont be fast but it will get you there.
@gettinitoutdoors67632 жыл бұрын
Me and my buddy just took a 10 foot jon out with guns, decoys, bags, both of us, motor, gear.. and it was great
@SendItJonBoats2 жыл бұрын
Yee Yee... sounds like fun! I need to get out and have some fun one of these days!
@sbranham863 жыл бұрын
We tried the freedom lube, my wife says it burns
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
Well it's always going to burn if you put it in the wrong hole..... cuz I know that's how you got her to use the Freedom Lube..... See hunny this stuff will make it feel freedom and lubricates at the same time😆
@sbranham863 жыл бұрын
@@SendItJonBoats there is no wrong hole is what I tell her
@freedomlineproducts44753 жыл бұрын
@@sbranham86 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
@@sbranham86 I tried to tell my wife the same shit.... she showed up the next day with a wood chipper!
@sbranham863 жыл бұрын
@@SendItJonBoats she can't argue if she's asleep
@buckingduckwyo2 жыл бұрын
what mud motor kid did u use that you could use the predator 212 and bigger motors? I thought the shaft sizes were different
@SendItJonBoats2 жыл бұрын
the Beaver Dam Mud Runners kits
@Dopey_Fudd2 жыл бұрын
I have a 10 ft by 32inch Lowe for duck hunting. 2 people and gear for 2 (deeks in a jet sled behind it). What do you recommend to get me through 2 foot heavily grassed water?
@SendItJonBoats2 жыл бұрын
the 212 with some mods will get you where you need to go in that small boat just fine.
@facelessaquatics13103 жыл бұрын
The chainsaw comment had me rolling in the floor laughing
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
😂 Glad I could make your insides giggle. LOL
@alabamaarcher68622 жыл бұрын
I have a little 10 foot Jon boat with a 6.5 predator with a swamp runner kit I weigh about 140 150 and before my mods with duck decoys guns etc I got it in the low to mid 20s
@SendItJonBoats2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@N1ceK1ng2 жыл бұрын
Where are you based out of? Baton Rouge right here. I just got a 10 foot alumicraft and ordered a mudskipper for a predator 212. Can't wait to get it in the water. I appreciate your content!
@SendItJonBoats2 жыл бұрын
I am in Georgia now. You will have fun with that little predator 212, with a few mods they can really put out some power.
@southronjr15703 жыл бұрын
I have got to remeber that chainsaw come back, had me rolling. Btw, I have a built 212 on a custom "sorta" longtail on a 1636 Jon boat and when packed down with 2 adults and myself (i.e. way overloaded), I can get it up to around 9mph (per gps) and alone I run around 17 to 18.
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
The chain saw comment is one of my classics... feel free to use it anytime! I ran a 212 on my old 16 footer and I could get about 15 by myself, but when you put another person in there it was the same way, 8 maybe 9 mph.
@BigChief33242 жыл бұрын
Hey Bro not familiar with mud runners, but interest. How well will it hold up in saltwater, and what's your opinion on installing one on a10 ft bass pro shop pond prowler. Meaning size of mud runner. Dam trolling motor is way to slow. Cool video
@SendItJonBoats2 жыл бұрын
Im not sure how they handle on thr little plastic boats, guess I need to try it out and see. But the mud motors are fine in saltwater, just rinse them off good when you get back home.
@vuze6075 Жыл бұрын
Do you got a video on how to build a mud motor with the harbor freight motor
@fireantfishing3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 the scooter section this week was hilarious
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
OL Scooter just gets better and better everytime! LOL
@d.a.oglesby74173 жыл бұрын
What’s your opinion of mud motors on a tunnel hull boat?
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
I have never tried it on a tunnel hull. I guess it would work. Don't see why not.
@ptsdgopedsnbikes8156 Жыл бұрын
one reason you could not be getting the speeds i easily get on my 12 foot with a 212 is because they engine is not adjusted properly on its mount and you have the prop to deep in the water. its good to get up and going from a stop but once you plane out you want the prop to be mostly i the water with about a 1/4 of it sticking out even half sticking out so it can rev higher but making sure its still deep enough to propel. you will feel it when it comes to high out the water it will rev high to easily. remember you are the trim and for full performance you need to work it and play with it even change prop sizes.
@SendItJonBoats Жыл бұрын
thanks for the info, since I have never ran a mud motor before this is extremely helpful!
@ronaldharris65693 жыл бұрын
Bass pro sells those 10 foot John boats pretty cheap so with a 420 ....I like saying that number.,predator and some float pods I bet it would be a solid 15mph boat that would get you in some cool fishing holes in shallow water
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
Oh heck yeah, and with some mods you could easily be in the mid to upper 20s.
@marshmadness49743 жыл бұрын
I'm 270. In my 1032 I run 17mph with my 212 ppf woodduck and a 7in prop. With hunting gear I constantly run 15mph
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
It ran really good with the 13hp, the 670 will fly once we get these side pods figured out.
@jameswarnock75 Жыл бұрын
Hey man, I have a 1256 lowe. I bought a medium swamp runner kit and a 301cc motor. Comes to 120lbs. The transom is rated for 105lbs. What are your thoughts?
@SendItJonBoats Жыл бұрын
That aint much over the rated weight, go full send baby!
@leebrooks4398 Жыл бұрын
Will a mud boat go faster with gater glide on the bottom
@sniper125893 жыл бұрын
those speeds are a little odd. from my experience my bone stock predator 212 mud motor kit is set up on a tracker 1436 and i am topping out at 15-16mph with just me and loaded with 2 adults and a 10 year old child plus gear we were able to hit 10mph no problem. so my only conclusion is maybe since both boat, mine and yours are both 36 inch wide, just maybe its very similar surface area making both boat comparable in speed per load out. really liked the video.
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
The more boats I test I am seeing that length has very little effect on speed, it seems to be more about width, weight, and weight placement. Getting the weight balanced just right seems to make the biggest difference.
@tomjones78532 жыл бұрын
Length has realy no effect on speed or acceleration, except for the fact a longer boat weighs more. Now width,draw,and power are what controlls speed.
@bradmusser5983 жыл бұрын
I'm running the 301CC/8HP on a 12/36 and getting about 15.5 mph. I'm just a little heavier than you and that includes a trolling motor and battery.
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
Good to hear the 8hp motors are getting decent speeds. I seen a few guys running them and I need to get one and try it out.
@benhightowerv3 жыл бұрын
Project sketchy sketch 🤣🤣 I feel the same every time my son moves in the 12' plastic Jon. He hasn't grasped the concept of easy yet
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
Them small boats are sketchy as hell! I feel your pain
@kashouttvu3532 Жыл бұрын
Where did u get the shaft in propeller kit from ?
@UWPcustombaits3 жыл бұрын
So when's the bumper stickers going to be available??....asking for a friend 👀
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
LMAO.... I will talk to the bumper sticker people and see if I can get them up on the website soon! I will make sure your "friend" gets one! LOL
@predator_boiz3367 ай бұрын
Shoot we stuck 3 people in a short 8ft yesterday, fished some pods around the country with the homies lol, definitely a fun experience lol
@davidleekalbjr.30353 жыл бұрын
I have an extra wide canoe. I love freaking out my buddy, every time I move and it tips a little. His auto pilot kicks in, and he leans opposite. I quickly lean the same way. We end up rocking it, just putting him in panic mode.
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
LMAO... that is awesome. Next time you send your buddy into full panic mode tell him "thats from Send It Jon Boats" LOL
@Yellowlab247_Outdoors9 ай бұрын
Question for you! I have a 1032 that I want to put a mud motor on. I am not looking for speed, I just need to be able to ease up and down a river about 5 miles each direction with two guys in it. No boat ramp, so I have to drag it up and down a hill and carry the motor. What motor/prop kit setup would you recommend to reliably push 500 lbs in 1032 up a flowing river (moderate flow, nothing crazy) ? Just subscribed, thanks!
@ricardorocharamos12893 жыл бұрын
Great video, I'm about to go pick up a Lowe 1032 that I found in the marketplace, the boat comes with a Minn kota endura 30 and 2 seats, I plan on using it for fishing so I will definitely not be putting a mud motor on it, there aren't many videos on 10ft jon boats, any suggestions on what I should do to it?
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
Check out the tiny boat nation facebook group. There is at least 50 people with 10 foot builds made specifically for fishing.
@ricardorocharamos12893 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I do follow them on KZbin and Instagram but I didn't know they had a group on Facebook, I'll go check them out
@dwilly5872 жыл бұрын
Think float pods would help a 10’ Jon boat? Have one similar! Love the videos sir send 😎
@SendItJonBoats2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they would help.
@callahanbradley51852 жыл бұрын
Where do I even get one of these motorw
@SendItJonBoats2 жыл бұрын
Beaver Dam Mud Runners
@floutdoorstv79143 жыл бұрын
How fast would you say a 12ft would run with the 22hp? I have a reinforced transom jon boat and i run a 20hp outboard on it and it flies. Looking to swap to a 22hp predator for duck season
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
I am still not sure yet. We had a lot of problems with the engine and I never got it past half throttle and I was in the mid 20's. I have no doubt it can do 30.
@floutdoorstv79143 жыл бұрын
@@SendItJonBoats Okay thanks brother!
@tomjones78532 жыл бұрын
That will all depend on prop size and pitch. Once you get a specific propeller to spin at its max effective speed before cavitating thats it. It doesnt matter how much more motor you give it. Logicaly the more torque and power just gives you the ability to spin a bigger prop moving more volume of water
@jeffsidwell22153 жыл бұрын
So how many times do you almost fall in?
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
about 37.... LOL i actually did fine once we got the grab bar on there. Prior to the grab bar it was like hanging on for dear life. That is the sketchiest boat I have even been in
@k.h13653 жыл бұрын
I like the videos i have the same boat with a new honda 9.9 me and my cousin take it out fishing every weekend it hits 21 with boath of us and it actually dont feel sketchy
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
Man you are my hero, I am so used to bigger and wider boats. This one just feels like it is going to tip every time I move around. Will take some getting used too.
@k.h13653 жыл бұрын
@@SendItJonBoats ya maybe its cause ive had the same coleman crawdad 11 footer since i was 13 and now im 32 haha but i deffinatly wanna get a 12 eventually. I like the little boats i can get to some good fishing spots. Keep up the bad ass videos i watch them all!
@miguellovino76796 ай бұрын
1030, 1032, 1036, 1040... ALL 10 Ft jon boat... but what is the best..?
@alexmann83572 жыл бұрын
Y'all on jackson lake ??
@SendItJonBoats2 жыл бұрын
Yeah buddy! Right at the end of the Yellow River!
@cooperbennett65813 жыл бұрын
What propeller is on the back of the 212
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
6 inch aluminum longtail prop.
@misterwhymer44732 жыл бұрын
@@SendItJonBoats I have a 212 kit w a 6.5in prop. Recommendation on a prop size to get a few more mph?
@MudMotorsMax3 жыл бұрын
Great video I got some stuff planned for my 1030 Jon boat. We’re gonna have to collaborate and do some long Jon races here soon!
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
Yee Yee! We gonna make it happen.
@jtfalkner3 жыл бұрын
Where do I get one of those cool send it stickers?
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
Link is in the description for the stickers, hats, and shirts.
@jtfalkner3 жыл бұрын
@@SendItJonBoats all I'm seeing is products you used. I may need new glasses but I can't find it.
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
@@jtfalkner thejonyacht.com/collections/send-it-jon-boats there ya go.
@cartermackenzie11353 жыл бұрын
Are these motors bone stock? Like governor is still on and everything
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
Yes sir, bone stock no mods.
@pwj4632 жыл бұрын
You can take the governor out of any of the motors and get way more power
@SendItJonBoats2 жыл бұрын
I know... this ain't my first rodeo.
@mattheweverett86042 жыл бұрын
Is that Jackson Lake? I’ve run my mud motor out there too 😂
@SendItJonBoats2 жыл бұрын
Yup sure it. Right down the street from me.
@mattheweverett86042 жыл бұрын
@@SendItJonBoats awesome! It’s fun to get up in those shallow coves and little creeks. Also, pretty good catfishing up the yellow 🤫
@SendItJonBoats2 жыл бұрын
@@mattheweverett8604 The yellow river is my stomping grounds man! I do most of my fishing up there. I love it.
@marshmadness49743 жыл бұрын
You should run the 420 solo. On that boat you should run 23+. Those 420s can be very fast solo
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
The 420 is a great motor and I was impressed how good it did on this little boat.
@marshmadness49743 жыл бұрын
@@SendItJonBoats where are yall located
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
@@marshmadness4974 Georgia
@FISHANE843 жыл бұрын
Nice jon boat! Subbed!
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad to have you aboard.... welcome to insanity land, we are crazy but we like it that way!
@ipoopinwalmart59683 жыл бұрын
So I personally think you should make a video of you going around you're city and putting the "I ❤️ my butt plug" stickers on a bunch of vehicles.
@freedomlineproducts44753 жыл бұрын
Chris. I have located a brilliant human. We have to do this☝️
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
Why...... would you give me such great ideas????? I love u
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
Sign me up! Lets start at walmart
@freedomlineproducts44753 жыл бұрын
Then immediatly move to Star Ship parking lot
@ipoopinwalmart59683 жыл бұрын
Bruh I'm just filled with great ideas!! Lol
@fbi1069 Жыл бұрын
Got a 10ft boat with a 212 me my buddy go duck hunting on the river all the time in it its not as bad as you would think😂
@CaptPeterson3 жыл бұрын
Dope 😂
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
Thanks bud!
@jimboneutron83992 жыл бұрын
Dam i have a 420cc surface drive with stage 1 mods and i only get 16 mph on a 14 footer. But it may be slower but mine is way easier to operate and better to maneuver through tight stuff and just as good in the mud so i can’t complain
@SendItJonBoats2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this boat aint the greatest for a larger motor because it is so weight sensitive.
@jimboneutron83992 жыл бұрын
@@SendItJonBoats ya mine is a 14x36 so it can’t handle much weight too. But yes the surface drive kit is pretty heavy lol. Definitely sink a 10 footer
@1153mf3 жыл бұрын
Oh god I’m 320 by myself….i want to drive it now!
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
LOL. That boat is so sketchy! But WE gonna make it fast
@Tyler_B.3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t watched the video yet but I’m gonna guess 10-13 biased off my 10” with a 212 mud motor
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
Nope, but close. Guess you have to watch the video now LOL
@Tyler_B.3 жыл бұрын
@@SendItJonBoats I did. Lol. I was pleasantly surprised. What size prop did you run on the 212?
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
@@Tyler_B. I ran a 6, 6.5, 7, and ended back at a 6 to get the best speed.
@lukeloeds37302 жыл бұрын
i got a 11 foot john boat and a honda 45
@SendItJonBoats2 жыл бұрын
Nice! I bet that thing flies!
@stephenhair55013 жыл бұрын
Well, after seeing this boat with my own eyes, I'm really doubting your sanity!! LOL Great video and can't wait to see the upgrades. Stay safe my friend.
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
My sanity has been long gone for many years. LOL Many more great and crazy videos coming soon!
@genekind60993 жыл бұрын
Need to get yourself a boat jockey from Thailand..... 80 lbs of No Fear 🤣😂
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
Fore real dude! Them dudes are always like 5 foot tall and 90 pounds soaking wet!
@juliosdiy32063 жыл бұрын
Most 10' can carry around 290 lbs so i suppose my boy n i can ride it we both weight 110 totalling 220.
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
Yeah man yall will be fine. I'm a fatty so I am too much weight for this boat with the motor.
@Murphyslawfarm3 жыл бұрын
G'day mate
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
Hey bud! Thanks for checking out the video.
@Murphyslawfarm3 жыл бұрын
@@SendItJonBoats 👍
@GeorgiaRidgerunner3 ай бұрын
Note to self never watch this channel in public again without ear phones when you whooped out that buttplug sticker everybody heard it and are looking at me like im crazy
@SendItJonBoats3 ай бұрын
Your a brave soul to have any of these videos on with speakers in public. I've been kicked out of the library, a pizza hut, and two fishing tournaments for listening to these videos in public.
@dirtybootsfishing2923 Жыл бұрын
Lmao I had a 10ft with a 15 ..2 stroke Yamaha an with three full grown people each 200 pounds literally jumped on top an ran like nothing lol 😂
@SendItJonBoats Жыл бұрын
Thats awesome
@freedomlineproducts44753 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes I am a fellow Phsycopath 😁🤸♂️😬
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
🕵🍆👹👺💩👅👕🌂😂
@greenpighunter69303 жыл бұрын
You could go faster in a narrow 8' jon.
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
I could go faster in a lot of stuff.... this is what I was given so that is what I got to work with.
@timsauer10793 жыл бұрын
Love this stuff!!! Is it wrong to want to make the haters corner and be called Scooter?... Poopyheaded butt plug sticker peddler
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
Your going to have to do better than poopyheaded butt plug sticker peddler to get in the scooters corner 😂 My wife calls me worse than that on a Thursday!
@thomaswilson97923 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna have to stop watching your vids. I keep looking at 12’ Jon boats on market place thinking I could easily take two of them and make a pontoon boat. By the way how can I get a few of them bumper stickers to put on cars that waffle turds park in mutable parking spots
@SendItJonBoats3 жыл бұрын
Dude a Jon Boat pontoon would be so cool! Stop giving me ideas!!!! I saw those bumper stickers on amazon!
@thomaswilson97923 жыл бұрын
@@SendItJonBoats If you decide to build it I want in on it
@allardfeberwee89133 жыл бұрын
Hallo mr send it. We.ve just put 2 ,10ft in line together. Results are Amazon !!!