10 Reasons Not To Buy A Fender Deluxe Tone Master

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Phillip McKnight

Phillip McKnight

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00:00 Intro
00:58 Reasons not to buy It
08:16 Reasons to buy it.
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@davidstanley6883
@davidstanley6883 2 жыл бұрын
The appeal of this amp is that it has limited choices. If you start adding on loads of features it just becomes another modelling amp. This is designed for people that just want to plonk a good sounding light amp on stage, whack it up and off you go. No constant tweaking. Great idea.
@supersonicsroots
@supersonicsroots 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!! Thank you.
@Phoenix_cataclysm_in_2040
@Phoenix_cataclysm_in_2040 2 жыл бұрын
Well, this is what Mustang III actually does - zero tweaking, just choose a preset amp on a screen - and off you go, and you've got plenty to choose out of 100 presets based on famous amps - vintage Fenders, Marshalls and Voxes. It sounds great, the only drawback is that it looks so modern, can't beat the mojo of a vintage, worn out amp with glowing valves. But then those come with their own, sometimes costly issues, plus they are not cheap either, so it's kind of difficult to find a middle ground here, although this Deluxe Reverb looks like an answer to that dilemma. 🤔
@stringlocker
@stringlocker Жыл бұрын
Eventually we will all learn again that simpler is better. Can't add much I agree with everything you said.
@drummermike5150
@drummermike5150 Жыл бұрын
Yes David!! Exactly what I was thinking!
@BasedHyperborean
@BasedHyperborean Жыл бұрын
but they sound like trash the second an OD pedal gets anywhere near them.
@billywebb4325
@billywebb4325 3 жыл бұрын
I recently purchased this amp and after playing 4 gigs with it; I will never use my vintage Fender Twin Reverb again. This amp sounds amazing and the weight factor makes this a no brainer for me!
@jamesfetherston1190
@jamesfetherston1190 3 жыл бұрын
local shop has no fewer than four 25+ year old Twin Reverbs. Those are much harder for them to sell than the DRs these days, priced a good couple hundred bucks cheaper too.
@christophersanchez7130
@christophersanchez7130 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Billy! Just an inquiring mind here. Would you by some chance happen to be selling your twin reverb amp?
@gordonhuskin7337
@gordonhuskin7337 2 жыл бұрын
What does your wife's son think of the amp?
@JWS1968
@JWS1968 2 жыл бұрын
I was in a gigging band for 20 years and the weight is something to consider. The tone of the original valve amp may well be better but I'd still go for this. The audience won't notice and other musicians probably wouldn't notice if you didn't tell them not with drums and other guitars and an audience all contributing to the noise of the room. Why put your back out. Valid point!!!
@judehanley9980
@judehanley9980 2 жыл бұрын
Amp sounds incredible. I have a 1972 deluxe reverb. Tonemaster sounds a little better. It just does. I got it used for $750. Worth every Penney.
@RouvenKasten
@RouvenKasten 2 жыл бұрын
I have had the amp for a year now. It's an unpack, turn on, play amp, it just works great, it does what it's supposed to do, it's a Digital DLX Reverb. Nothing more, but nothing less. That's why I can't understand the 10 negative points. All the other technical details would make the whole thing much more complicated again. For me, it's the best amp I've ever had.
@ButternoteBackingTracks
@ButternoteBackingTracks Жыл бұрын
Great to hear... let's hope you're still of the same view if you experience issues in a few years! Be interesting to see how these TMs fair with longer-term maintenance and repair...?
@chrisledrew5091
@chrisledrew5091 2 жыл бұрын
I recently got this amp because I was sick of my tube amps always having issues. I’ve owned so many old Fenders as well as the reissues, and there is ALWAYS something going wrong with them. At this point I just want something that sounds good and won’t give me issues on a gig. I am aware that this amp can also break down, but at least there aren’t a million variables regarding HOW it can break down. There are no tubes to go bad, no trem tick to develop, no caps to dry out, etc. I’m just done with tube amp issues. This amp sounds killer. I love it.
@u.s.a.198
@u.s.a.198 Жыл бұрын
thanks for feedback.. i was curious
@ButternoteBackingTracks
@ButternoteBackingTracks Жыл бұрын
...until you actually do have issues and wish you still had your tube amp, because it can't be repaired!
@LincolnCountyBand-st8yn
@LincolnCountyBand-st8yn Ай бұрын
@@ButternoteBackingTracks Yeah, its basically a throw away amp when something goes wrong!
@elipop777
@elipop777 3 жыл бұрын
I've had this amp for over a year and I still absolutely love it.
@kolchak3578
@kolchak3578 3 жыл бұрын
I think at $500 it would be a lot easier to ignore the 10 negatives.
@napomania
@napomania 3 жыл бұрын
Too much money
@gordonhuskin7337
@gordonhuskin7337 2 жыл бұрын
@@napomania for 500 you can get a vintage silverface fender. point to point handwired
@kimmolingonheimo
@kimmolingonheimo 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a Fender Stage 100 mint for 130€s, orig. American parts, warm sound, no sound card/CREDIT CARD!, no usb..........takes coupla peds..., to buy an over 1000€ amp with computer stuffage is just plain silly, I mean you can get into Katana territory fo less..., AND why dont they make them them TONe Masters even lighter by cutting out the middleman: the speaker if theyre anyways offering a creamback by an app??? REALLY sounds like too f many variables in the 1000$ game here, no wonder people head for Kempers n stuff ( 1600$) , but I dont dig their tone... : ) K
@LaBriqueMasque
@LaBriqueMasque 2 жыл бұрын
@@gordonhuskin7337 yes, but in France he cost 1200$ 😕
@gordonhuskin7337
@gordonhuskin7337 2 жыл бұрын
@Frankly Speaking like what; buying new tubes? lol. Those things are built like tanks. There's a reason why 40 years later they're still working fine. If you bought one with problems that's on you dawg. I've never had a single problem with any of my vintage amps
@eezar21
@eezar21 3 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these 9 months ago and I have since sold all my other amps. As a utility for gigging and recording it has been amazing. I would love a headphone jack, but I can do that running it through my interface
@sixslinger9951
@sixslinger9951 2 жыл бұрын
yes, there are ways around everything. a headphone jack or effects loop is NOT a deal breaker at all for me. just run the damn effects trough the front like everyone used too...... they sound just as good.
@eezar21
@eezar21 2 жыл бұрын
@@sixslinger9951 I agree, I have never used an effect loops...too many cables :)
@GigginDude
@GigginDude 3 жыл бұрын
Did anybody notice that when Phil was talking about the mid scoop and he put his hands up in the shape of a V he scooped his own mids on the audio ?
@dgmwitz
@dgmwitz 3 жыл бұрын
mesa boogie fans are moaning right now
@chriskellervxstudios
@chriskellervxstudios 3 жыл бұрын
It’s the little details. Love it
@turamvar
@turamvar 3 жыл бұрын
I thought there was something off with my speaker :D
@UCS0608
@UCS0608 3 жыл бұрын
I did! It made me laugh!! Great review, btw!!
@songwriterjj6022
@songwriterjj6022 3 жыл бұрын
I think that was because his hands were right in front of his face as he was talking.
@warrenharman3435
@warrenharman3435 3 жыл бұрын
I own the Deluxe Tonemaster and did the update with the clipped bright. Love the sound of it. As a gigging professional, this amp fits my needs perfectly. My concern is when playing outdoors in high winds. I’m afraid it will blow away! The attenuation and weight sold me on this. Love the channel. Great pros and cons on this one. Nailed it. Know your gear!
@Phoenix_cataclysm_in_2040
@Phoenix_cataclysm_in_2040 2 жыл бұрын
Throw in a couple or more of medium sizes dumbell plates. They'll keep your amp in place.
@lance134679
@lance134679 3 жыл бұрын
I've had the Twin version for about a year, which I bought specifically for gigging, but since gigs dried up, I've come to appreciate how great it is for both practicing and recording. I have a hand-wired Deluxe Reverb clone and custom shop '57 Twin-amp, and I think the TM Twin holds its own with those other amps. One of my favourite things is being able to scale the power down and run the volume on 10 - it's a special kind of overdrive. Also, running a boost into it works well with its high headroom and really pushes it into classic rock overdrive territory.
@lavalizard1
@lavalizard1 3 жыл бұрын
I love my TM/DR - best gigging and recording amp I’ve ever used. As a gigging musician the portability and ability to run a direct out to front of house is spectacular. I like that Fender isn’t trying to make the TM an all in one like a Mustang or Champ. I actually prefer the fact that it doesn’t allow things like custom IR’s etc. To each their own.
@fluorophoremusic3679
@fluorophoremusic3679 2 жыл бұрын
But bro...it's $1000 new for a mass produced digital amplifier? I don't understand the price point. Twin Reverbs exist on the used market *the real deal* for hundreds less? I don't care how heavy it is dude...I'm not 80 years old. Jeez, the only weight difference I notice is my wallet if I'm wiling to shell out over a grand for brand new gear that is literally a digital copy of the real deal. Don't get me wrong, these amps sound great!...that's what people misunderstand about my sentiment...I think these tonemaster amps sound good. I don't think they should be anywhere near over $500. There are other companies making digital modeling amps of higher wattage, that sound great...for far cheaper. And, there are several brands making all-tube higher watt amps for less than this. Say what you want about Bugera...they make a V22 combo for half the price of this and it's all valve. They make a 150W plexi head for 600$. Orange makes all tube amps for half the price. They make solid state amps that are arguably better for half the price. There are several tube amplifiers on the market that are less.
@coppulor6500
@coppulor6500 2 жыл бұрын
@@fluorophoremusic3679 agreed. its cool but not worth more than $500 to me, maybe if it really felt great and sounded good enough in person.
@lavalizard1
@lavalizard1 2 жыл бұрын
@@fluorophoremusic3679 - I don’t disagree. But the direct XLR line out, 1/4 of the weight for quick gig setups / tear downs, plus its ability to maintain the MASSIVE twin sound are all features I value. The moment we’re inspired in the studio I run and XLR into the interface through the built in IR’s and we’re recording. No more mic placements / fiddling - just play and record. I’m digging it. Don’t get me wrong - I dug my tube amps but I don’t feel like I’m compromising anything… I’ve never felt like I’m missing out.
@Jonathan-L
@Jonathan-L Жыл бұрын
@@fluorophoremusic3679 The new Fender Tone Master Princeton is now priced well above what I paid for the tube re-issue model when I bought it back in 2009. The Fender Tone Master Princeton is a great amp, theoretically reliable, doesn't need biasing, won't go 'microphonic', but as you say it's way too pricey.
@fluorophoremusic3679
@fluorophoremusic3679 Жыл бұрын
@@Jonathan-L making good points here. How often do you think tube amps should be serviced?
@CheddarKungPao
@CheddarKungPao 3 жыл бұрын
Great review Phil! Lots of points I hadn't heard before.
@cvs1539
@cvs1539 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review - well balanced/ honest review. I wish I had seen this video before I made my purchase about a month ago. So far I am very happy with the tone of the amp (even if the mids are scooped a bit - I can fix with a pedal if necessary) and how it takes pedals. I really wish that it had an effects loop, but I knew that before I purchased the amp. I wanted the amp because of its attenuation capability, and I am very happy now having 5 different "wattage" levels. All in all I am very happy with the amp and how it compares tone wise to my tube amps.
@dwalks637
@dwalks637 3 жыл бұрын
Honesty is alway appreciated. Thank you for helping me wade my way through the sea of digital offerings..
@kenk7049
@kenk7049 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the Deluxe TM and I'm happy with it. It's lightweight and sounds good to me. My heavy amp days are over. Attenuator is great also. I also use a Origin Effects Revival Drive to get close to a Marshall sound.
@ScottMedinaX
@ScottMedinaX 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you Phil. You are the only one being honest about this amp. All of the other reviewers are obviously paid to be positive only.
@rickeaton3085
@rickeaton3085 3 жыл бұрын
I don't agree with that. Phil is great but there are other KZbin personalities being straight up and are not getting paid. There is plenty to impress coming from these Tone Masters.
@ScottMedinaX
@ScottMedinaX 3 жыл бұрын
@@rickeaton3085 Fair enough. How about I put it this way. In my experience with approximately 20 main stream guitar gear reviewer/influencer channels that I follow, I haven't heard any of the other channels mention the downsides that come with this amp. Phil provides an honest assessment of the gear he reviews. Change my mind.
@rickeaton3085
@rickeaton3085 3 жыл бұрын
@@ScottMedinaX Nashville guitarist Zac Childs on his channel Ask Zac, talks about his personal experience with multiple tube versions. A separate video on this one and a follow up on the Blonde. Keith Williams on 5 Watt World isn't paid by anyone does a video. Both KZbin personalities not paid to promote it. Both being honest. Just pointing out that your original statement was unfair to some KZbin personalities and a blanket statement. Not trying to sell amps or promote people on KZbin.
@rogersonger4454
@rogersonger4454 3 жыл бұрын
I own one and love it-especially after uploading the upgrades available on Fender’s website. I would love to see you review the twin!
@jimwoodard64
@jimwoodard64 3 жыл бұрын
I have had one since early. Great amp, does what it’s supposed to and isn’t trying to be everything to everyone. Good review.
@mikeroadblock
@mikeroadblock 3 жыл бұрын
For sure helps. Thank you for all of your reviews and your hard work.
@bigwavedave8492
@bigwavedave8492 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man I was waiting for you to cover this amp
@MusicdocMT
@MusicdocMT 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely done sir - I got the Cream tone master Back in November I love it!! works great both live and in the studio ... The right tool for the right job - KYG 🤘🏽🤠🎸
@michaelwaterbury132
@michaelwaterbury132 3 жыл бұрын
I've been gigging with this amp twice a week for four months and I love it. The tone is great. The light weight is a huge plus.
@mikedr1549
@mikedr1549 2 жыл бұрын
I've had mine for about a year now and I 100% love it more now than when I brought it home. I feel like it sounds better now in fact. Super happy with it.
@astewart9410
@astewart9410 3 жыл бұрын
This was incredibly helpful, thank you for your insights. I appreciate your candor!
@jakollee
@jakollee 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a thorough honest review, pointing out the pluses and minuses of this amp.
@icenic_wolf
@icenic_wolf 3 жыл бұрын
That was a surprising list of "areas with room for improvement", for 2021. Thanks for putting it together! I know it's probably not supposed to be a competing product with this, but: PRS MT15 and a budget 1x12 cab seem like they'd do a better job for what I'm interested in. Thanks!
@TheBenb1999
@TheBenb1999 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks this is a super honest and real world overview. There’s more useful information in this video than most of the others combined. I’ve been super curious about these since they came out but I haven’t been in a guitar store in 14-15 months now and back before Covid I never saw one in a store.
@iamnoone4046
@iamnoone4046 3 жыл бұрын
So glad this video popped up on my feed. Gave me very insightful information. Thanks!
@denniscraven8438
@denniscraven8438 3 жыл бұрын
Great review Thank you so much for doing it. I've had my tone master for 6 months I absolutely love this amplifier. You have to know when you review amplifiers there's a lot of corksniffers out there. I'm a big picture guy and this amp is absolutely been a wonderful piece of equipment for me.
@sixstringfrenzy238
@sixstringfrenzy238 3 жыл бұрын
Phil McKnight is on! Time to pay attention!
@isaacjohnson.
@isaacjohnson. 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review, and good points all around many I haven't thought of before either. Really want to try one of these. Thank you for doing the review.
@MrRafaztar
@MrRafaztar 3 жыл бұрын
Best review so far, thank you for purchasing it and reviewing for us. No punches pulled 👍🏼
@jamesf2918
@jamesf2918 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t even care what’s in this video, I just love the title so much. It’s a wrench in the gears of all of these gear KZbin channels And I’m sorry, but being made in China and still being that expensive is a complete dealbreaker. I feel the same way about the PRS stuff and I’m a PRS owner.
@dancrowe7860
@dancrowe7860 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. You can still find Quilter USA heads for a real bargain. It's one amp I regret selling, as it was light, but sounded great. But, I still won't pay $1K for an import amp that isn't handwired. Heck, the 4-watt Vox is around $800.....
@billyshears6622
@billyshears6622 3 жыл бұрын
The best feature IMO, was the attenuator feature. It sounded fantastic to me, as in better than other digital amps with similar features. I don't know why but that stood out when I tried it.
@patrickt4095
@patrickt4095 2 жыл бұрын
I ended up going with the Quilter Aviator Cub - a truly amazing amp! Thank you, Phil! So glad I watched your video first!
@Kendo276
@Kendo276 2 жыл бұрын
Always great information, I found one of these used and I love it! So far no issues and I’ve played it a lot!! I agree about the effects loop and normal channel reverb n tremolo. Both needed changes. I also use an equalizer for mid help!
@Youknowood
@Youknowood 3 жыл бұрын
i used to play lead at a church, they had an original fender reverb 65, it was so amazing when they pulled it out and said" use this i guess🤷‍♂️" my jaw dropped
@jmeds_jammin
@jmeds_jammin 3 жыл бұрын
There are still some hidden gems hiding in closets. Just a lot harder to find these days
@aaronpeacock8572
@aaronpeacock8572 3 жыл бұрын
I got the blonde version. I liked the sound better, then I realized you can switch between them via USB. I really love the amp and I think it does a great job at getting that Fender tone. I do have a few gripes, all of them are mentioned in this video. Overall I think it's a great amp... really love that attenuator
@declanmcmullen9957
@declanmcmullen9957 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome overview. Fair and balanced feedback as always 👌
@SuperJiggawhat
@SuperJiggawhat 3 жыл бұрын
I really, REALLY liked this review! Thank you, and more please.
@adZwhole70
@adZwhole70 3 жыл бұрын
Phil; My Tone Master Deluxe Reverb showed up Monday. Blonde / Oxblood I watched your 10/10 on your feelings on the amp tonight and saw you had some legit complaints. I am just an old church strummer that loves new stuff and I love this rig!!
@j.hammer573
@j.hammer573 3 жыл бұрын
Thorough review. I appreciate these type of videos. I wanted love this amp. But, I sold my TM because it didn’t take fuzz pedals well. I bought a Roland Blues Cube with a Sparkle Clean tone capsule. It’s the best solid state amp I’ve ever played. It’s now my everyday amp.
@j.hammer573
@j.hammer573 Жыл бұрын
@ghost mall You are correct. I bought the amp new when they came out in 2018 or 2019 but it was upon their introduction. During the months I owned the TM, the Firmware did not exist. I sold it. Later, I saw the Blonde version had the new software in it. Or, to your point, one could update 1st version. I’m glad to read you’re not having those issues. Good to know they’ve addressed the problem.
@UCS0608
@UCS0608 3 жыл бұрын
This review is a pleasure to watch! Straight and useful information, no hypes, no bandanas and no "look what I can play on my guitar with dropped-D"-stuff ! I like that!
@zerowastaken
@zerowastaken 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review Phil, I was really curious about this amp. Really good info for those like me who were thinking about possibly purchasing this amp in the future. Will keep an eye out if a killer deal pops up, but probably won't pull the trigger on this one. Appreciate the great video as usual!
@chopper4484
@chopper4484 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Phil I was looking at this amp but I think the negatives outweigh the positives. No headphone jack and no effects loop is just weird. Out of warranty not having support is a no deal for me.
@BigSifu67
@BigSifu67 3 жыл бұрын
I've had one for about a month, great amp! I channel jump it to bypass the bright cap. Old school...
@gregriddle3042
@gregriddle3042 3 жыл бұрын
I do the same thing!
@tombarnaby4842
@tombarnaby4842 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the format. Thank you!
@troyalcorn9459
@troyalcorn9459 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your honesty on the amp helps make better decisions when money is tight great video thanks again Phillip.
@projekt1824
@projekt1824 3 жыл бұрын
I played one for a week or so and really enjoyed the sounds. Two things held me back from buying: the cost; and knowing in a year or less an even better version will emerge... I ended up getting a deal on a used Princeton.
@antoonhermans8953
@antoonhermans8953 2 жыл бұрын
there are free firmware updates for this amp .
@PHutch877
@PHutch877 3 жыл бұрын
I've had my TMDR for a year and a half, I did the firmware reverb modification first because I was playing country, and it makes it much more controllable, less surfy but still rich and lush, and later I did the clipped cap mod. At the age of 72 and still gigging, this is a fantastic amplifier, and I've been using Fender tube amps since I was 12. As far as mid-range control, the twin has it, and for the DR it's just rolling off the highs and lows to let the mid come up with the volume, just like my DRRI, PRRI and CVR. And it's a high quality, rugged Fender amp. That's why it costs. It's highly unlikely that it's going to break. And they're probably not going to bring out a V2 really soon because it's well engineered, but they might make some more firmware upgrades, I suspect the two channel Reverb and tremolo mod is in the works or already on the shelf. If they make a 35lb. tonemaster Super Reverb, I will get one in a heartbeat. As soon as gigging opens back up, I'm thinking about trading in my CVR on a TMTR. If I'm recording and desperately need a real tube sound, I'll use a Vibro Champ, but for live performance, who needs to carry all that weight? Especially if it's going to go through mics and into a digital PA anyway, the TM output is going to deliver better.
@jumpskirt
@jumpskirt 3 жыл бұрын
Much appreciate hearing the critique - thank you!
@rickhill6277
@rickhill6277 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Phil, Great Review! I’m 68 and still Giging in two Bands. I did my Touring years ago and now I just do Local Gigs (with some exceptions) and Studio work. I have both V1 Tone Master Twin and the Deluxe and can’t say enough Positive things about both! I understand they only have a Two Year Warranty but I’ve already contacted a Tech who works on them if needed. I did this Before purchasing them from Sweetwater. I’ve been using them for a while now and have had no problems running pedals including a Boss Equalizer in Front of both Amps. No excess noise on either, in fact both of mine are very quiet. Thanks for the info though, it gives others things to consider before making their purchase. Cheers from Salem, Ohio.
@phillippitts6294
@phillippitts6294 3 жыл бұрын
That’s such a choice color strat! Kudos!☠️☠️☠️👍🏼
@ryanmetzger2995
@ryanmetzger2995 3 жыл бұрын
Great review, I will say I don’t expect an updated version to include some of these updates. I believe they are not mistakes or misses but specific choices to exclude some modern digital amp type options. I think they tried really hard to make this like the amp it imitates. My guess is they leave the effects loops and other more modern touches to the mustang and others and while they will update some sounds my guess is the amp remains as close to the original as they can.
@Smudger654
@Smudger654 3 жыл бұрын
Great review! The first time I saw this amp reviewed, my immediate thought was: great, but what a missed opportunity. So glad that someone with reputation and influence has pointed this out.
@bobbyfields7359
@bobbyfields7359 3 жыл бұрын
Sooo many times you just lay it down like it is! I’ve watched so many reviews of the Tone Master that I was thinking there’s no way there’s 10 reasons not to buy! Great Job Bro!
@johndonaldson9905
@johndonaldson9905 3 жыл бұрын
In Phil we trust
@HeviNova
@HeviNova 3 жыл бұрын
I have the blonde it's great 0 issues. the bass and treble controls also control the way the mid range acts.
@alecmullaney7957
@alecmullaney7957 3 жыл бұрын
That's bogus
@davidchamberlain8910
@davidchamberlain8910 2 жыл бұрын
Really good, comprehensive review. Thanks a lot!
@Worklikeyoushouldbe
@Worklikeyoushouldbe 2 ай бұрын
Fantastic review man. Thank you so much
@rick381v69
@rick381v69 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that it's an expensive digital amp is a deal breaker. You'll always be able to get a regular valve amp repaired
@bluesrocker91
@bluesrocker91 2 жыл бұрын
That's the thing that's putting me off too... I know for a fact that most techs won't service digital amps. They'll deal with valve and solid state gear all day, but digital signal processing is a whole different beast, and not something you can just fix with a soldering iron and multimeter. If they were half the price they might be worth it... But to invest nearly £1000 into an amp you can't get serviced is foolish and bound to end in tears.
@ericwring6758
@ericwring6758 2 жыл бұрын
@@bluesrocker91 In my area amp repair Is slim to none. Hard to find anyone who works on them. And the few that do are months out. Yes I have tube amps but I picked up the super reverb tone master and love it. I have been a tube snob for years. But when a amp goes down and I have to wait months to get it fixed well that don’t work very well. Being a tube guy myself I am definitely not disappointed in these digital amps. Actually very impressed with them. You get what you pay for. Fender has knocked it put of the park with these amps. Don’t listen to some guys ten reasons why you shouldn’t buy it. You have to go and check it out yourself.
@bluesrocker91
@bluesrocker91 2 жыл бұрын
@@ericwring6758 I'm not knocking them for their tone... From what I've heard they sound fantastic. And the idea of a lightweight combo where I don't have to worry about changing valves really appeals to me... I'm just worried about what happens when that warranty expires and something goes wrong... Right now I can get my valve amps serviced by a local tech. It's expensive, but doable... I don't know if I could get this repaired in the long term, and because of that it's difficult to view this as a "forever" amp. If in ten years it's central processor burns out, it's rendered useless and I can't even sell it on.
@sixslinger9951
@sixslinger9951 2 жыл бұрын
@@bluesrocker91 if you get 10 years out of it, it cost you 90 bucks a year of fun and recording , gigging etc. Prettty cheap if you ask me and I bet they last many many more years than just 10 anyway. Oh yeah, I have 2 Marshall stacks too so I love me some tubes too but the future is this.
@bluesrocker91
@bluesrocker91 2 жыл бұрын
@@sixslinger9951 I would hope that's the case...
@SlowerIsFaster139
@SlowerIsFaster139 3 жыл бұрын
It sounds really nice. Im a metal head but I still appreciate a nice clean tone
@terrysmith8714
@terrysmith8714 2 жыл бұрын
A wealth of info. Thank you. Cheers
@jamesgretsch4894
@jamesgretsch4894 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. You bring up really good points I don't think any other vids on this bring these things up.
@Hulkhoagie1
@Hulkhoagie1 3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this video. I own this amp. It's not perfect but overall I have enjoyed it. It works well for me living in an apartment. One of my concerns is wondering how it will hold up in the long run. Also, I was bummed to find out Fender has discontinued both tht head and combo Superchamp X2. I will miss that one.
@gorlagOv
@gorlagOv 3 жыл бұрын
The firmware update is fantastic. I love this amp.
@gorlagOv
@gorlagOv 3 жыл бұрын
@Luke I wouldn’t say it has a lack of mids before the update. I think it depends on what attenuation you are playing at. At low watt attenuation before the update, you can get some very high treble frequencies. That are not for everyone. I didn’t seem to notice it as much in higher attenuation settings. Also I have a twin not a deluxe so maybe it has a bit more mids than the deluxe. I think before the update and after they both sound great. However I personally prefer the updated sound and at lower attenuation the eq works better. Hope that helps.
@davidsummerville351
@davidsummerville351 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pro and con review. They are important for decisions regarding a purchase.
@jimtinter5569
@jimtinter5569 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review: to the point, concise, and you don't try to be a comedian! Also, your playing examples are brief and just long enough to make your point. Thanks for excellent work!
@cooperyorksmusic3865
@cooperyorksmusic3865 3 жыл бұрын
I got the twin reverb tone master blonde and it’s amazing in my opinion
@algorithm007ify
@algorithm007ify 3 жыл бұрын
That's the best version.
@xldsyt
@xldsyt 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. Absolutely the most inspiring amp I've owned...and I've owned more than anyone has a right to.
@shauncarter924
@shauncarter924 3 жыл бұрын
Man. Usually I just plug in and twist some knobs and play. Either I like it or I don’t. I never really considered most of these points Phil makes. Maybe I’m not smart enough. LOL. Good work Phil.
@5000rgb
@5000rgb 3 жыл бұрын
Most people can't fully get to know a piece of gear in the store. I'm usually happy with my purchases but in the store it's more "I know this thing will do something I like" then truly knowing what I'm getting.
@NFMorley
@NFMorley 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the honest review Phil - I've been seriously thinking about one of these rather than picking up a Fender Princeton, but the 2 year warranty is a deal breaker for me as while I don't doubt the quality, getting it repaired could become a nightmare (and I'm fine with tube maintenance anyway).
@timaves1504
@timaves1504 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve had one of these for more than a year now and l love it! I have bad knees and love the weight. The power switch has been a godsend this past year of lockdowns - one of the things that kept me sane and stopped the neighbours going to war with me! I did have concerns about the durability/repairability, which is why l waited until l found a used one for a better price (£650 UK, as opposed to £800+ new). For the same reason most of us haven’t been gigging, l’ve only used it twice with a band - it coped really well - so it’s too soon to say how it will last. It sounds great - just like a good Fender amp (l have eight others of various sizes and vintages) - and even works well for harmonica with a bullet mic. Well done, Fender!
@mattbrillhart2922
@mattbrillhart2922 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, at this price point and with some of the missing features I would want, I’d repurchase a champion 40 and put an upgraded speaker in it...
@rstuartcpa
@rstuartcpa 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Champion 100 and love it. It serves the purpose of a light weight decent sounding amp to take to a jam or open mic without worry or breaking your back.
@JacobH93
@JacobH93 2 жыл бұрын
For me, I think I’d rather just spend a little more and have the regular reissue. With all of those two notes products and similar products you can add a lot of functionality to tube amps and that’s really exciting to me! Granted it is a much more expensive option altogether but I think I’d be happier in the long run. That’s just me though! If I wanted something digital I’d probably go for a product more like iridium personally. I’m glad these are being made though!
@THE-zv7vj
@THE-zv7vj Жыл бұрын
the tube amp doesnt even come close to these tone masters for sound and convience.. If i took the badge off and you played it you would never know.. most artists were shocked to know it wasnt ..
@poodleguiderpeyes7388
@poodleguiderpeyes7388 Жыл бұрын
That was an excellent review! Thanks.
@zolazingo
@zolazingo 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely done Phillip .. (.I remember watching That Pedal Show vid as well....Mick & Dan did it up very well too ) keep up the great work!
@dalepal
@dalepal 3 жыл бұрын
Good idea to share some pros and cons that other KZbinrs probably didn’t point out.
@QuoVadis88
@QuoVadis88 3 жыл бұрын
Ok. Boss Nextone Special. The amp that has it all. A/B amplification. Deep editing. Two real independent channels. Waza Craft Blue Bell speaker.
@irecluse1
@irecluse1 2 жыл бұрын
Great review Phil,I have this beauty and absolutely love it man😎👍🎸😎
@lafemmeparallel
@lafemmeparallel 3 жыл бұрын
Great points! Very useful info
@scottdematteo
@scottdematteo 3 жыл бұрын
I own and love the amp. I own the blonde version. I had not thought about any of your ten reasons why not to buy it, but I'd also also I honestly have no need for any of those ten items, so I am good with it as is. I think the idea of the amp is to make it feel/look just like the real thing without adding all the gimmicky and toy'esq features that usually are associated with the lesser expensive amps. Good video.
@kevinpatton108
@kevinpatton108 3 жыл бұрын
I watched several videos on this amp myself when it came out. I like the attenuator feature, but just couldn't get past what is basically a digital amp that is basically the same price as what it imitates. I ended up getting a deal on a 68 Custom Princeton.
@ryanandring2688
@ryanandring2688 3 жыл бұрын
Love your stuff Phil! Quite a shocking title but excited to watch :)
@TJ-fv6dp
@TJ-fv6dp 3 жыл бұрын
I just recently got the twin tone master and I love it! I did the firmware upgrade and I do believe I will be purchasing an eq pedal in the near future as well. My pedal board has just one more space. Lol.. As always, great review Phil!! 😉
@MaxPower-js1sk
@MaxPower-js1sk 3 жыл бұрын
I hope that Fender makes those improvements, and that they make Princetons, Tweed Deluxes...I hope the make the whole range.
@edwardbrogan7341
@edwardbrogan7341 3 жыл бұрын
In America I only hope,more expensive but I was fortunate enough to buy my reissue 65 twin reverb made in the USA!
@wildcard33
@wildcard33 3 жыл бұрын
The amp sounds fantastic and doesn't break my back.
@Topsy_Krett
@Topsy_Krett 3 жыл бұрын
The weight is a fact but the sound... a matter of opinion, which ain't mine.
@jimandcathep9915
@jimandcathep9915 3 жыл бұрын
Great, honest review Phil - thanks and keep it real!
@RichCI
@RichCI 2 жыл бұрын
Great demo and walkthrough. Thank you!
@mwpv11
@mwpv11 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review. At 71 the weight is the most important thing to me next to the sound. This seems to have a great sound and weight factor I am looking for.
@ferramirez4570
@ferramirez4570 3 жыл бұрын
That's a really expensive good looking Fender Champion with less features of course.
@chrisullery3386
@chrisullery3386 3 жыл бұрын
I have the champion and being disabled on a fixed income it's perfect for me.
@tomcaron9113
@tomcaron9113 2 жыл бұрын
Bought it used to reduce the hit. Playing over 50 years. I love it.
@johnpick8336
@johnpick8336 3 жыл бұрын
Great Review Phil ! Thanks
@markdakel9253
@markdakel9253 3 жыл бұрын
Very honest and Straightforward review, and it is extremely appreciated
@christianwalsh7082
@christianwalsh7082 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve just bought one, wicked amp! Highly highly reccomend one (make sure you do the firmware update)
@hypno-techs2196
@hypno-techs2196 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I have the TM twin and love it. It became my number one amp!
@rockon856
@rockon856 3 жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed for a V2 with the upgrade suggestions you mentioned Phil !
@MrZardoz777
@MrZardoz777 2 жыл бұрын
As expected, the best real-world review I've come across. Frankly it's just plain annoying that Fender chooses to withhold features that cost pennies to produce, much like what you call the "million dollar colours." Great video!
@gloucestersmokes
@gloucestersmokes 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review Phil. Showing the pros and cons of the amp.
@DEZZA12
@DEZZA12 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and very nice playing on the cleans
@nrich5127
@nrich5127 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody wants to work on it when it breaks ? - that's the kiss of death ...
@tatialo37
@tatialo37 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much disposable!!! Those chips can be a pain. If I buy solid state, it's analog for me! My tech 21 tm30 crapped out but a great tech fixed it by putting in better caps!
@frankiec2765
@frankiec2765 3 жыл бұрын
And from what i understand these do have their problems. A lot of chabo for a "toy".
@frankiec2765
@frankiec2765 3 жыл бұрын
@@tatialo37 Indeed Ruben.
@iamnoone4046
@iamnoone4046 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, didn’t know that. Was 80 percent sure I was going to buy one in the next year. And now I won’t. Like you said kiss of death. Bummer, I was excited to have such a light amp, but now I ll get the real thing. It will always hold its value.
@frankiec2765
@frankiec2765 3 жыл бұрын
@@iamnoone4046 Yeah just get the real thing man. :-)
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