Evaluating EVERY club's moves in the aftermath of the AFL trade period! - SEN

[@snowman01]

Appreciate the timestamps. Great work SEN social media team

[@2_pelicans]

add chapters next time boys and girls

[@maya-vl1sp]

TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 - 5 Players that will change their new clubs 2:39 - Adelaide Crows 3:31 - Brisbane Lions 4:03 - Carlton Blues 5:12 - Collingwood Magpies 8:07 - Essendon Bombers 9:57 - Fremantle Dockers 10:50 - Geelong Cats 11:20 - Gold Coast Suns 12:58 - GWS Giants 14:29 - Hawthorn Hawks 16:31 - Melbourne Demons 20:20 - North Melbourne Kangaroos 22:38 - Port Adelaide Power 24:20 - Richmond Tigers 25:53 - St Kilda Saints 27:27 - Sydney Swans 28:53 - West Coast Eagles 30:33 - Western Bulldogs

[@MRHenHen]

Thank you

[@wlsmojo]

Thank you very much :-)

[@SonyCamry]

Ty

[@SkyrimChicken]

Collingwood, Hawks, and Richmond had by far the best trade periods. All 3 maximised on what they wanted

[@freespeechisdead202]

GC got dream deals and future firsts.

[@SkyrimChicken]

@freespeechisdead202 they didn't. Gave up Lukosius and pick 6 for Nobel and Rioli. The future first from Port will be good, but the Coll future first won't be since Coll is very likely a top 4 team again. All the other pucks they got with Rioli are bad, nothing in the top 50

[@freespeechisdead202]

@@SkyrimChicken Lukosius isnt that great, he struggles to get a dozen possessions a game. He may be better at Port but he wasnt at GC so I say thats a win for GC getting a first rounder for players they didnt want. They didnt give up much for 2 future firsts and gained 2 better players.

[@Rudimental13]

I'd also argue the cats got exactly what they wanted for the price they wanted.

[@Pullyaheadin92]

Pies did great for the now but are putting there club at risk. Coming from a scarred west coast supporter

[@billbaggins1688]

Luke Parker will improve North. We need leaders.

[@garrymoss2079]

As a Saints fan I’m very happy, kept our draft hand complete ( moved back a few spots 2nd round pick )added Jack Macrae , kept our 2025 picks intact. Our picks 7 & 8 are versatile can move up or back the draft order . Teams will come calling.

[@Dilmahteabags]

Hawks also have Blanck, Lewis and Frost to return from their injuries. Hawks have depth in the forward and back now.

[@eponymous7910]

They still don't have much kpp depth up forward. Unless Battle is going to play there (wouldn't be surprised)

[@darrenbaker6019]

@@eponymous7910Sicily and Hardwick will be used up forward now that we had greater coverage in the backline

[@stevenprice6957]

@@eponymous7910Skaife is a strong kid. Lewis to come back 2nd half of the season. We can rotate backs and forwards so there is plenty of depth. McCabe was also injured last year.

[@KenMason-zt1vf]

Weddle can play on the wing or near the forward line kick goals with his booming kick and now Sicily will be exciting to watch in forward line kicking goals helping out Lewis chol etc and barrass battle down back plenty to see looking forward to see in 2025 bring back the footy they look stro ng all over the ground.

[@PFrules]

​@@eponymous7910 Hawks don't need KPP depth. It's their speed of ball movement, foot skills, pressure and system that will beat other teams in 2025.

[@guyh9992]

Collingwood's core group of players in the prime 26 to 30 range next year are Houston, Perryman, Schultz, McStay, Lipinski, De Goey, Moore, Maynard, Cameron, McReery, Markov, Frampton and Josh Daicos with Nick Daicos, Quaynor, Hill and Harrison younger. Other promising younger players are McInnes, Allan, Jiath, Ryan, De Mattia, Parker, Steene and Smit. Father son Tom McGuane next year. The 31 and over depth players the media is obsessed with are cheap and will be phased out over time.

[@2_pelicans]

houston moore maynard cameron only good players on that list, de goey jaicos when they want to be, rest are list cloggers

[@rangatank93]

I'm convinced you haven't watched a collingwood game in 3 years ​@74_pelicans

[@effkay3691]

You listed Lipinski……sorry I switched off at that point

[@dermottcolee145]

Hes our best running and kick inside 50​@effkay3691

[@effkay3691]

@@dermottcolee145 😂

[@zwski396]

As a bombers fan, I'd like to see Rosa and Brad Scott on the same page. We seem to be heading down the ladder for the next year or 2, just need Brad to now play the kids for that to work. Think he fell victim to thinking he could be that coach that can change anything and wasted the last 2 years giving soft games to older players who didn't add anything. Down to go up. No more trading in average top ups. Sad reality but its the right way in my opinion.

[@Sbock86]

Agreed. It has to happen. No point avoiding the bottom out that Dodoro avoided for years by trading in average top up players.

[@Manwithoutplans]

Bottom out and take melbourne with us. Two top 4 picks as a reward.

[@tb7667]

Has to be the weirdest trade period I can remember for overvaluing and undervaluing different players.

[@user-rk6nn8gh9i]

Agreed! All over the shop

[@tb7667]

@@user-rk6nn8gh9i On top of some just bizarre valuing of players like Rioli going for a significantly more than Houston, you had both West Coast and Port basically admit they knew they had done bad trades immediately after they did them. The whole period was so weird.

[@user-rk6nn8gh9i]

@tb7667 I mean the recruitment of lukosius is classic Port. He's an absolute cat who has no competitive streak. Literally todd marshall 2.0. He will no doubt fill his boots playing Richmond at the Adelaide oval then do zilch when they limp out of the finals yet again

[@user-rk6nn8gh9i]

@tb7667 ha! Baker and dropping down that many pegs is just the worst deal in history! And Gold Coast paying 6 and 23 for rioli, shut up shop. That's what Lachie Neale was worth, not some flaky flanker who hasn't fired a shot since Dusty slowed down

[@tb7667]

@@user-rk6nn8gh9i Lukocious is supposedly on over a million a season the next two years. And two years ago, GC was attaching a top 10 draft pick to get rid of a bad contract. This year, Port are giving them a first round pick to take an even worse contract off their hands, all while being bullied into accepting a terrible deal from Collingwood by Houston's manager. Really weird.

[@stevendebono]

First genuine positive reaction from cornes to the tigers

[@MarkQuigley-vj2lt]

Kane still salty over Houston 🤣

[@SirFluffy100]

🤣🤣

[@89joshuadavies]

Ofc. Will pop up again all season.

[@Power_Prawnstar]

He's not the only one.

[@jamesbuesnel5054]

Well he has grounds to be. Should have just forced the north Melbourne trade

[@Evan-p5j]

Wait until Collingwood beats Port Adelaide, could you imagine Houston kicking the winning goal? 😅

[@declanl6239]

North have next to no draft hand and a big interest in Trainor. Expect Richmond to trade for pick 2 and give up maybe 11, 20 and 23. Allows Richmond to take O’Sullivan and Lalor while still taking 5-6 players this draft whilst more than likely trading 24 into a next year 1st rounder. Allows north to get Trainor as well as the 2 other late first rounders to add to the experience they added.

[@fergulator7297]

Absolutely zero chance 11,20,23 gets pick 2 ,never gonna happen,pick 6 and 11 a chance

[@declanl6239]

@@fergulator7297 Richmond won’t trade 6. 10 and 11 would be a chance. North have no intention to draft one of the top midfielders and are after key stocks. Depends whether they value 2 picks 10 and 11. Or 2 later first round picks to target one of the whitlocks plus another player. One of or both of Armstrong and shanahan are likely to be gone by pick 10 and 11 which they seem to be invested in Trainor at that range. 11 and two later picks gives them two chances.

[@user-rk6nn8gh9i]

We don't have an interest in trainor

[@declanl6239]

@@user-rk6nn8gh9i north have had reported interest in Trainor all season including just a month ago. His concussion worries are overblown.

[@gnads9771]

No need. Deep draft, 2 is equal to 8 in that these players are all top 10. No use giving up potential 2 guns for 1 perceived gun. Dusty picked at 3, yet the best In other words, I'd be happy with any player in top 15. Richmond must hold on to their picks, don't swap

[@brono7777]

Gary What a stand up guy

[@seedias5961]

Is the first time ever Kane has said something positive about Richmond? 😮

[@dysonproudfoot6865]

Collingwood approach is genius. Howe and sidebottom probably have 1 more year In them, pendles maybe two. When they all leave its going to open up alot of cap space to just sign more players there going to be a free agency destination with Daicos there. Not too worried as a pies supporter.

[@Tigers529]

Pendles Lucky to get through preseason

[@effkay3691]

You’ve given away 2 years of draft picks. You’d want to win a cup in the next 2 years

[@peterbozich4433]

Tasmanian team 2028 might change a few things for the high flying teams at the top currently.

[@HorizonOfHope]

Nah, really worried as a Pies fan. Going to collapse like the Eagles did - right as the stupid Tasmanian team takes all draft picks.

[@Jeepers234]

Howe and Sidebottom would be on minimum pay, you ain’t getting a heap of space when they go

[@TheAlphaDingo]

'Soldo' and 'sizzle' can only be used in the context of roasting Kane to a salty broken crisp 😂

[@dannyrault683]

Kane Cornes on any opinion he has..... " I'm always right. Even when I'm wrong."😃

[@G-Money244]

Flagpies 2025! 🏆 so happy with our trades considering the duds we’ve got in the past (Daniel wells, Jesse white etc)

[@azzajames7661]

A retirement home 2025 and beyond😆

[@G-Money244]

@@azzajames7661 yeh true but hoping we can do what Geelong in 2022 did when everyone thought they were too old 👍🏻

[@stevenprice6957]

Could scrape in the 8., 7th to 12th. The window is shut.

[@G-Money244]

@@stevenprice6957 wouldn’t say window is shut I agree it’ll take luck and a healthy, well managed list but I’m still remaining optimistic for 2025. Good luck to your team next season 👍🏻

[@stevenprice6957]

@@G-Money244anything’s possible of course. Miracles happen but they would need a near miracle. It’s not just where list wise , Collingwood are positioned, it’s like 8 other teams that are about to hit near prime.

[@jimmycastellano5316]

Essendons improvement will come from within more than who they pick up in the draft through gameplan/style availability and the player's on the list that have been there for the last 4-6 years. If they play slow high possession football they simply won't improve on 2024.

[@tonyrichardson7322]

Happy with Crows trade period but it's finals or bust for Nicks now.

[@AndrewMauriello-jz4dk]

Go Lions top 4 again but I’m worried about Collingwood and hawthorn next year.🦁

[@IterImpiusnp]

Is Kane Cornes feeling alright? He was positive about North Melbourne

[@derekboath4409]

Essendon put a ceiling on last year by pumping the breaks on expectation. Didn’t let the players believe. Hawthorn lived in the moment and played with belief and it showed on the field and in the results.

[@Fiasco3]

Zane Duursma has the potential to be a handy forward for North Melbourne. IF' they train him and use him. The worry is he doesn't get enough game time and ends up being a great player for someone else.

[@simonkaye7268]

Funny how they don't talk about Geelong the way they talk about Collingwood when they recruit older guys all the time.....I wonder why?

[@jonsnow3521]

suppose its because cats have history of success to show for it. Its no longer wait n see.. Same with all their left of field recruiting- they had no choice in order to avoid deliberately dropping to the bottom to load up young talent (a brain dead easy option some clubs still cant get right).

[@effkay3691]

Probably because Geelong have won 4 flags since 2007. Also in that time they’ve recruited Dangerfield and Cameron.

[@simonkaye7268]

@@effkay3691 we've only started this recruiting style last couple of years....and one one flag and a premium...not too bad. Btw.....id love to see books of Geelong and how much they play players......and to see if any family members are on feelings payroll t

[@simonkaye7268]

On Geelongs payroll too?? Who knows

[@jeremybourke1301]

If Geelong have midfield issues, what do Port have after week 1 of last finals?

[@Jamie_one_of_many_prophets]

Little to no depth and far too many players that don’t perform in important games.

[@JGFormentin]

Rozzee, Butters and JHF. Port have holes in their list but it ain't in the midfield budy.

[@jeremybourke1301]

@@JGFormentin they lost the midfield to a “poor” midfield (according to Kane) in a home final

[@YvonneMcLay]

@@JGFormentin Great minor round players, but have a look at their finals record

[@Tosicc567]

Henry smith/brandon ryan will step up for daniher pretty well. Henry smith is almost the perfect ruck/forward replacement I like Day but hoping they play the young guns instead

[@effkay3691]

Clarkson took a while with the Hawks let’s not forget.

[@Johny-jy5vo]

Won a final in his 3rd year and a flag in his 4th

[@effkay3691]

@ Yes. Correct.

[@Evan-p5j]

I really dont get how Kane likes Matthew Kennedy for the Bulldogs.. Jack McRae, Smith, and Daniel all wanted to leave because Bevo plays them out of their best position. That is well documented, and Kane is the biggest critic of that, Kennedy leaves Carlton because he wants more midfield time.. where do you think Bevo will play Kennedy? Like seriously? If Mcrae and Smith can't get the best position, how kane? Do you think Kennedy will be in the midfield next year? Kennedy will be half forward/ back. And regretting going to the Bulldogs.

[@stevenprice6957]

Only Smith is a loss and that’s only if he gets close to what he was 4 years ago. Question marks on him too. The other 2 are list cloggers.

[@Damoscar12]

Dogs wanted more salary cap and MacRae and Daniel are depth players now on big contracts

[@andrewkerr5296]

It's time for Fremantle to deliver

[@jackmag4056]

GO BLUEBAGGERS!!! 💙💙💙💙 3peat 25/26/27

[@macdouglas1087]

Poor frost had a killer season and they think getting battle and barass in will make them better, hawks won’t make the 8 imo

[@Johny-jy5vo]

Keep dreaming

[@angelaandradeus6290]

Garry Lyon is he ok he sounds tired

[@cools6560]

Macrae is a good get for the saints. Because thats saints weakness - inside ball / clearance.

[@joshblackmore1206]

He’s awesome! The saint Kilda midfield is so lacklustre adding Jack macrae is a guaranteed improvement. Any team prepared to play paddy Dow or Zak jones is seriously desperate

[@JF-oz3mv]

Essendon have realised they cant make 2/3 changes and be successful. Build from the ground up. Only way to go!

[@shmick6079]

Love the salt from Kane.

[@RetroBackslash]

Hawks are my second team behind the Lions. Expecting the Hawks to suffer from the expectations now on them and not perform as well next season.

[@chrispetritsch1291]

Lol. Who has a second team??!!

[@RetroBackslash]

@@chrispetritsch1291 Me... everyone I know who follows AFL

[@nicolascini1241]

@@RetroBackslashsounds like you don’t from how harsh you make it out to be expect to lose to us 6 years in a row

[@RetroBackslash]

@@nicolascini1241 Sounds like I don't what?

[@AIJimmybad]

​@chrispetritsch129 he might be 8 years old.

[@Power_Prawnstar]

Should we be calling Paul Conners "the dark lord" Question, would Zac Merrett make Brisbanes midfield? Is he really that good? Hes part of the problem. They think he's a super star and they measure other players by him.

[@user-rk6nn8gh9i]

Answer - yes, and yes.

[@johndoe5061]

Um, what a stupid question? Of course he would! But, why would he go to Brisbane?

[@Power_Prawnstar]

@@johndoe5061 He would be Brisbane's 5th mid

[@jamiekelly6851]

​@@Power_Prawnstar put the pipe down man

[@Power_Prawnstar]

@jamiekelly6851 what, he's better than Neale, Ashcroft, Dunkley, and Young ashcroft, I dont think so. He wouldn't make Ports rotation.

[@TheMemeMachineMatt]

Baker, Barrass, Houston, Noble and McCrae are the five that'll change their clubs.

[@sov839]

can't be taken seriously when you have NOBLE AND MCRAE in there and not Bolton and Rioli. Noble will be Riolis backup and Shai bolton could easily kick 40+. Out of your mind

[@TheMemeMachineMatt]

@@sov839 Rioli is literally family and premiership value. He hurts his team on rebound since he's so attacking. Noble will be the more defensive halfback willing to run his guts out. He won't be there for just depth like he was at Collingwood. With the amount of good quality forwards that Freo have at the moment, Bolton won't get near 40. He'll help the inside 50 entries, but he'd be a waste that deep forward when Treacy, Amiss and others are there. As for McCrae, St Kilda have needed another good midfielder for years. With Marshall giving him silver service and ability to help Steele out, McCrae will be a big part.

[@kennedysan1045]

Macrae will provide food value for saints, they are thin on ball winning mids and he is quality....for pick 45, the saints should see good gains from that trade.

[@jonathanwoods9276]

No Vic commentators rated Port last year and they all got it wrong, so why would any body put any value on their views on Port!!

[@AIJimmybad]

Port were ordinary.

[@jonathanwoods9276]

@ All the teams that finished below them were more ordinary don’t you think!

[@rossclout9831]

Chad Warner isn't going anywhere, he'll sign with the Swans over the off-season. Remember, his brother is with them. They look after their young players better than any other club.

[@andrewkerr5296]

Nope

[@effkay3691]

So what! They’ve still lost 4 GFs straight. Their system is good but definitely nothing special.

[@MozartificeR]

After Melbourne lost Neil bullen, the correct call was to put the Q in the rack with this crop. All Melbourne needed was another dumb trade like the Grundy trade and we will end up at the bottom four in the blink of an eye. I give it 3 years and we will be a favorite for last position. And there just isn't enough talent in those 2 years for us to win a GF cos of Neil Bullen has gone. Therefore, it's like another Grundy trade. Bottom of the ladder here we come:) The problem with trading a future 1st rounder is. I don't think we are immune from the bottom of the ladder for next year. And if that happens, we have handed over a number 1 draft pick to the Bombers. And if that happens, we get locked in in about three years away. And apparently this is a weak draft list. I think they would have been better off trading everything else they had for future picks.

[@simonkaye7268]

Is Christian sulking? Can Melbourne look after their players....eg ohas? Maybe toughen up Gary and get a new coach.....bet the players want to stay then

[@stevenprice6957]

There will be changing of the guard up top next year. Blues Freo hawks Top 4.

[@Sbock86]

Hawthorn won't even make the eight.

[@stevenprice6957]

@@Sbock86Yeah sure. Cats pies to miss the 8 Hawks 3rd. Blues 2nd.

[@Johny-jy5vo]

@@Sbock86I bet you picked them to be bottom 4 this year How’d that go? Hawks only going to get better

[@Sbock86]

@@Johny-jy5vo no actually, I picked them to make the 8.

[@Johny-jy5vo]

@@Sbock86 easy to claim that now

[@Mannykosto]

Collingwood gun prime movers Cameron prime Perryman prime Jordy prime J daicos prime Houston prime Moore prime Bruzzy prime Crisp still prime Lapinski prime Shultz prime N daicos still baby Elliot plenty footy left Checkers plenty footy left Mcreery still baby Boby prime Mcstay still prime Quanor prime Ed Allen still baby Our old role players Pendles Sidebottom Cox Hosking's Elliot Howe Mitchell All this Collingwood is old bull shit needs to stop.

[@eponymous7910]

There is no way that Houston is a better footballer than Barrass. There's a strong argument that Bolton, Baker and Battle are superior also. Half back flankers grow on trees and Houston isn't great defensively

[@user-rk6nn8gh9i]

Haha there's no argument

[@chinathesideyoudontsee8157]

I disagree ! A few years ago you may of had an argument, but Barrass has a server back injury now and will be lucky to play 3/4 of the season. Houston is one of the leagues best kicks and also has the ability to play multiple positions . Bolton plays well if his team is winning, Baker is ok and Battle 🤣 role player at best.

[@greenbane2105]

Barrass was statistically top 10 worst 1v1 player in comp whilst Houston is the best kick in comp and was rated best gen defender in comp

[@greenbane2105]

You wanna say something grows on Trees, intercept defenders are the most overrated players in comp whilst

[@chinathesideyoudontsee8157]

@@greenbane2105 lol I think you are going over the top mate as without intercept players the likes of Houston wouldn't get the ball to use their damaging kicks ! Houston isn't the greatest defender in the league , not even close, actually he is more of a rebound player than a defender however in comparison to Barrass whom I started now has a back injury he is a better pick.

[@BruceB-fo4gj]

Ports trade was a joke!

[@RobKieranz]

Poor Clarry 😢

[@cweatherfella547]

Hawthorn ripped themselves off

[@Johny-jy5vo]

How?

[@sam47511]

Garry Lyon clearly doesn’t understand how the ball gets in the forward line

[@jakeharris6502]

Bloke played full forward in the afl he’d have move of an idea then you ya nuffie.

[@sam47511]

@@jakeharris6502 then why rip on the suppliers of your craft?

[@brendanrowell4977]

Collingwood are way ahead of Melbourne

[@Kevin-x9g2b]

Kane is as sweet as stevia Needs more salt ☘️😂🇵🇭

[@Parto-y5e]

Cats will have C Guthrie back with Smith, Holmes and Danger, Guthrie the forgotten man

[@christaylor1667]

Feel sorry for Gary Lyon having to work with this oxygen thief !!!!

[@RobKieranz]

Gary ain't no fricken angel either

[@Cholado82]

Korne is one of the best commentators going round.

[@travisutrecht1542]

@@Cholado82 Facts. Peeps lose their mind when Cornes has a dig at their club. His downside, needs to be harder on Port and JHF.

[@aussiesfootballfan]

Listen I believe Chad will stay at Sydney I believe the swans 🦢 didn’t do anything to put all there money towards Chad let’s see if he stays in Sydney