13600K HUGE Speed BOOST!

13600K HUGE Speed BOOST! Today we take a look at the Intel Core i5 13600K and compare it to the i5 12600K using the same voltages, same RAM speed, and same cooling. Under those conditions I was able to achieve a 5.7Ghz OVERCLOCK using a basic AIR cooler.
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[@kharaf9920]

Great video. Could you do more in detailed videos of manual Intel tuning and ddr4 ram tuning as well ? We do not find those content usually.

[@AdrianMuslim]

*$330 for 6 core CPU! 🙄 How will only 6 cores handle future games?! We need at least 8 real cores now & specially for future-proofing. BTW, E-Cores hurt gaming performance so they dont count.*

[@AndreMiguelLopes69]

@@AdrianMuslim When you really need 8 core for gaming, your CPU already be old. Say 4 years from now ?

[@innocentiuslacrim2290]

@@AdrianMuslim

[@AdrianMuslim]

@@innocentiuslacrim2290 Letting people know is not spamming.

[@megaming7238]

As someone who just picked up a 13600K, a AsRock Z790 and a Phanteks 240 Glacier One T30 Edition… This makes me VERY excited 😍

[@AdrianMuslim]

*$330 for 6 core CPU! 🙄 How will only 6 cores handle future games?! We need at least 8 real cores now & specially for future-proofing. BTW, E-Cores hurt gaming performance so they dont count.*

[@tadejloncar]

@@AdrianMuslim -_-

[@h1tzzYT]

As a guy who swears by air cooling (currently nhd15 chromax) my next cpu is going to be from intel. Back when i was looking for new cpu to replace my 4790k and faulty mobo i decided to go with amd. I got x570 mobo and r7 3700x with the idea to upgrade to zen 3 top tier cpu. Year later i got 5950x which indeed had unrivaled multi thread performance and extremely good ipc and single core performance, the only cpu who truly dethroned it in most apps and games was 12900k. Everything would be good if not i had to rma it due to infamous whea 18 errors, buggy bios for each cpu 3700x and 5950x and the worst aspect high temps in gaming and other low load scenarios with air cooling. Currently my 5950x is working well but the low load temp issue is still present and will be as long as i will continue using it. I dont mind high temps in high loads because they are uncommon but high temps in low load scenarios is where i spend majority of my time on my pc and thats the issue so few people mention in reviews, because all they do is go to stress program and test it under stock power limits which in fact runs very cool. But in games its actually super hot architecture, with my stock 5950x i get ~75-85c in games and thats just uncomfortable even if its completely normal behavior of zen 3. The last amd cpu i used was amd socket A, sempron 2500+ 1.7ghz so you can imagine how long i have been with intel platforms, i dont mind trying something new but for foreseeable future i will stick with intel unless it will stagnate again like it did in 2011-2021 and so it happen i need a new cpu at that time

[@wimpieeeeee]

@h1tzz those are some weird problems man. I'm on a 5900X with a lian li galahad 360 aio. Got the power limit on 225W which results in 4950mhz on 2 to 6 cores while gaming and it rarely goes over 70c. In cinebench r23 after 10 minutes it will hit 88.6c with 4650mhz on all cores. Have you tried remounting the cooler? Checked the spread of the thermal compound?

[@h1tzzYT]

@@wimpieeeeee yes i tried and did everything, it is normal behavior with air coolers because zen 3 has very high transient temp spikes, air coolers cant dissipate that fast enough. Try mounting any air cooler and you will see similar behavior at least at stock. My 5950x is cool as cucumber in cinebecnh because it reaches stock power limit quickly and heat is distributed equally across the die area, sitting at around ~67c, but once i try to load only couple of cores like most games do, 75-82 is pretty much what i get most of the time.

[@wimpieeeeee]

@h1tzz ah that explains a lot. Well, I can recommend my aio. It's a bit more expensive than air but it cools quite well, with no spikes.

[@h1tzzYT]

@@wimpieeeeee yeah i get that urge sometimes to maybe pick AIO but then i check my temps and cpu performance and everything performs up to spec, so essentially i would be buying AIO only for peace of mind rather than actual practical upgrade. Well maybe one day, but before that i will do some other upgrades for my system :)

[@MrHeHim]

Would love to see that compared to an overclocked 7600x, power draw, temps, and all that jazz

[@tilapiadave3234]

Why do you want to embarrass AMD so much more ?

[@XX-_-XX420]

same id really like to see 12th gen overclocked vs 13th gen overclocked vs ryzen 7000 overclocked.

[@damasterpiece08]

unfortunately a lot of reviewers tested the intel with 6400 ram and ryzen with 6000 ram. i agree the cpus have different strengths but we should have the cheapest-best-fastest options in view

[@tilapiadave3234]

Your not happy that those reviewers follow the guidance of the manufacturer? AHHHH sorry your an AMD shill soy---girl that hates that Intel is SUPERIOR

[@LRVT_]

Great video 👍👍👍

[@johndoe7270]

Reminds me of that time I got a Pentium dual core, E5300 to 3.5Ghz on a stock intel cooler.

[@handofhuang5250]

Great review as always. I'd suggest getting a 7600x or 7700x to test who has the fastest gaming performance XD

[@hachiman3742]

Haha my man from wccftech!! Is your 13900k delivered?

[@m8x425]

Is Dissident Aggressor still around?

[@hachiman3742]

@@m8x425 he is

[@SPARTAN_78]

is deepcool ak620 enough for 13600k?? how max temp reaches at full load? i'll use i5 13600k for music production and it's cpu bound so i need stable temps even at full load. ( no overclocking )

[@aldumnarx56]

Hello, good afternoon, how much temperature does the i5 13600k reach with that AK620? Will it keep it cool?

[@SteevMy]

Hello! I would like to buy this processor for video editing and 3D, risk something with the AK620 as an air cooler?

[@RFLCTR]

I bought the asrock z690 steel legend for 140$ and still waiting for it to arrive and i appreciate that you showed the part where you tunned the cpu because i have never used an asrock motherboard.

[@nikolarajkovic3558]

Where did you manage to get it for $140 was it used or did you find a deal somewhere?

[@TheGoodOldGamer]

Newegg had them on sale a few times over the past few weeks. I bought 1 each time. Gonna send the 2nd back as I got the Gigabyte z690i lite boards coming. That’s the deal for $150 every day

[@AdrianMuslim]

*$330 for 6 core CPU! 🙄 How will only 6 cores handle future games?! We need at least 8 real cores now & specially for future-proofing. BTW, E-Cores hurt gaming performance so they dont count.*

[@RFLCTR]

@@AdrianMuslim Get a used 12700K for 330$ and oc that to 5.2, that's an 8 core which should last you along time, and about ~10% within the top 2022 cpus

[@AdrianMuslim]

@@RFLCTR I cannot find a used i7 12700K where I live. No one sells them.

[@hermine4955]

Dont disable e-cores unless you are thermal throttling, e-cores boosts fps in most game and atleast 1% and 0.1% lows for sure. go with 5.4ghz and 4.3ghz instead should work with +0.020mV on air cooler aswell

[@creaturedanaaaaa]

ak620 is a very strong cooler but I don't think it beats the value that the pa 120 se has at the like, 36 bucks

[@jeroen5736]

call me a newbie ?! e cores primary used for the system os? so if you disable it it brings more load to the p cores and could degree performance ?

[@Gamevet]

My local MicroCenter is selling a bundle, with the 12900K and an Asus Tuf Z690 motherboard for $420. I'm picking that deal up next week. RIP 9900K!

[@tileirsyadYT]

My p-core only hit at 3.9 just like the e-core when gaming, any solution ? Or its normal ?

[@cptnsx]

you MAY have a golden chip - FrameChasers already has a number of chips with good IMCs and very bad ones. did you buy this chip or get it from Intel - because if you did they probably gave you a binned one. people should NOT count on being able to overclock like you have done

[@tek1645]

This is common for Intel. Reviewers always get amazing samples

[@green_block]

AMD is known for lying about boost clock, not Intel. Here is the proof: kzbin.info/www/bejne/epi2oI13mdCSe5o

[@anthonytech]

This is a very good point. GoG definitely portrays Intel a way the truly makes him look like he’s getting paychecks from them. I don’t just say that to say it. His benchmarking methodology doesn’t make sense either and he’s been called out by other YTers

[@Alex-ii5pm]

@cmn 1:25 Intel supplied him the CPU

[@AdrianMuslim]

*$330 for 6 core CPU! 🙄 How will only 6 cores handle future games?! We need at least 8 real cores now & specially for future-proofing. BTW, E-Cores hurt gaming performance so they dont count.*

[@roythunderplump]

13th gen looks an impressive jump up for creators in Photo, video and music production more so than for gamers.

[@TechRIP]

Yep. That's why every review from every tech tuber just concentrated on productivity even though they are usually 99.999% gaming focused. 13th gen falls flat. It's as bad as 11th gen. The 7700X is less than 5% slower than the 13900K in gaming. And it's almost $300 cheaper. And 13th gen isn't that much faster in productivity to make it worth buying a dead platform vs a brand new one. Intel users really need to wait for Meteor Lake. That's supposed to be a beast.

[@dkimmortal]

​@@TechRIP Interesting that you compared the 7700x to the 13900k lol

[@TechRIP]

@@dkimmortal Well, less than 5% slower and almost $300 cheaper at ~60% of the power. How can you not compare that? Plus, CS:GO is one of the most popular games and the 7700X beats the 13900K by over 100fps. Gaming is all that matters. We'll see if we can compare the 7700X to the 13700K to instead shortly, but so far, the 13900K is Intel's best gaming chip. And the 7600X smashes the 13600K in gaming by a country mile. It's won 99% of games shown. So, the 13700K better perform big time for the extra $50 over the 7700X. Maybe that's why all the Intel fanboys seem to think that productivity benchmarks are more important now. The tech tubers too. For the past 10 years it's always been about gaming and now for the past 3-4 days it's been nothing but productivity. Intel must have paid them. Intel has had no good reviews since 10th gen when they were gaming king.

[@roythunderplump]

@@TechRIP Jarrod's 25 game benchmark of 13600k v 7600x. 7600x was only 4% faster at 1440p. So both good cpus if gaming is your main thing. CPU bit stagnant this gen if on recent cpu already.

[@dkimmortal]

​@@TechRIP "And the 7600X smashes the 13600K in gaming by a country mile" ....weird in reviews i saw, 13600k outperformed the 7X00x while being xxx amount cheaper but I didn't go through every review out there. Tomshardware, Anandtech among others say this, so I'm not sure where you're getting your skewed results from.

[@teemuvesala9575]

biggest advantage 13600k has over 12600k is 2x more e cores which makes big difference in multithreading

[@theboogerbomb]

yes that was one of the things that raptor lake did

[@AndrewTSq]

and a way bigger l2 cache

[@AdrianMuslim]

*$330 for 6 core CPU! 🙄 How will only 6 cores handle future games?! We need at least 8 real cores now & specially for future-proofing. BTW, E-Cores hurt gaming performance so they dont count.*

[@teemuvesala9575]

@@AdrianMuslimAMD fanboy in denial. They do count, because gaming is not the only thing you do on your PC. P cores can run the game while E cores run background tasks. I view anyone who disables E cores as quite frankly stupid. Its like disabling SMT on Zen CPU's so you'd get few extra FPS.

[@AdrianMuslim]

@@teemuvesala9575 I don’t run anything in background while gaming. So E-Cores are useless. If games don’t use E-Cores there's no point. Just 6 core CPU in the end.

[@anishkarnik]

I got an cooler master ML300 on my i513600kf but in the cinebench test my cpu goes to 100 degree celcius... I just made my pc can someone tell me whats the issue

[@rasporilac]

Do you think Dark Rock Pro 4 will be enough to cool this cpu?

[@TheGoodOldGamer]

100%

[@Madmile]

Would this information also work on a 13700k. It’s looks like it runs at 5.3ghz at stock.

[@joshfetil6059]

is it possible to use all cores just for gaming becasue im planning to buy if it's possible than buy a r9 5900x

[@ViperVisor]

Overclocking is not the freebie boost it was in the good old days. I got a used 11600KF + new B560 for $240.55 spend on your GPU, it's the money melon.

[@realforest]

Just a recommendation (obviously you already know this), but it would be cool to add in 720p and lower tests if the gpu is the bottleneck on CPU tests.

[@ivankovachev8835]

It's interesting to see indeed, but I think he is right, the vast majority of people(96%+) will NOT own anything above a RX 6700XT or RTX 3060Ti/3070 and this was a realistic test. I wish more games were tested. According to steam's hardware survey which isn't entirely accurate, about 4.45% people in TOTAL own anything above a RTX 3070. And it's been said many times, that it's usually people with the highest-end hardware that have the highest participation rate in the survey, while people with mid range and especially low-end don't participate at the same rate. Also I'm happy that the i5 can actually be ran on Air Coolers.

[@mordacain3293]

I've actually got my 13900K running at 5.9 all P-core with a -.015 mV offset on an NH-D15. Granted it's only stable at those frequencies w/ the e-cores (and HT) disabled otherwise it would be pushing well over 330 watts (sans ecores it is peaking at 230 watts). That being said, I can run all day at 54 P/43 E all core load with a -.095mV offset and that brings total package draw to somewhere ~290 watts at around 90-94 C. I can also confirm the memory controller is definitely improved and I was able to run 4000Mhz in gear 1 CL15. Unfortunately I still ran into the same issues I did with Alder Lake and couldn't run 4 banks of B-die @ those frequencies. Waiting on a set of that HP dual rank B-die to see how much of an improvement but my basic dual rank kit @ 3600 CL16 was roughly matching the single rank B-die @ 4000 in 3dmark. So far I'm very impressed with Raptor Lake. The 13900K seems to run lower temps at equivalent power draw to my old 12700K. My results on a rather basic micron dual rank DDR4 memory kit also seems to stomp what most review outlets were showing, with my best results in in CB23 pushing real close to 41K (multiple results between 40500-40800).

[@Luckytmj97]

If you turn of E cores is that only during gaming or is that permanent?

[@GeorgeWPush]

How do I know what to set Voltage Override to? I have 12600k

[@vspectre9728]

Would the deepcool ak400 hold up with this CPU?

[@Yahfz]

You need a better game to benchmark in RPCS3, lol. With those CPUs the game is now being bottlenecked by the RSX and PPU (which is why you haven't seen a big difference between both cpus), I recommend something that isn't bottlenecked by those such as RDR or God of War 3 using our wiki settings!

[@RonanFrost]

"It's not going to get you world-shattering, earth-shattering performance differences ... " ... on the other hand, if this is your first upgrade since getting taken on an AMD FX8350. >_> yeah. merry effin christmas.

[@imandatta85]

I ordered my machine with 13600k and z690msi tomahawk wifi ddr4. Should i go for ak 602 or 360 aio? second question, why does intel website says memory speed upto 3200mt/s. what does it mean?

[@apurbodebnath111]

Which cooler did you take? And how much temp you got in heavy load?

[@cubancoffee]

Deep cool AK 620 is the GOAT! Have mine since February and absolutely love it 👍👍

[@VoldoronGaming]

I have in one system deep cool neptwin v2 and in the other neptwin v3. Deep cool FTW.

[@SPARTAN_78]

is it enough for Intel i5 13600k ? how max temp reaches at full load? i'll use i5 13600k for music production and it's cpu bound so i need stable temps even at full load. is deepcool ak620 enough for 13600k?

[@XX-_-XX420]

could you by any chance redo it with a much faster gpu, there is nothing wrong with a 3060, but even the modern I3 would be bottlenecked by it, and im pretty curious how these cpus will compare in a cpu limited setting.

[@Calx9]

Yes please!!

[@AlexRubio]

The majority don't touch the bio's. I've fixed many builds over and over again from clients. Most think they can build PCs just by watching KZbin videos. These chips are very hot I just fixed one last night had to manually adjust voltage and under volt. Great for US hardcore enthusiast, but not for regular folk.

[@Pimp_Shrimp]

You can build a PC just from watching videos. Your clients are likely just a bit thick.

[@AlexRubio]

@@Pimp_Shrimp not the majority. Most mess up parts and damage them.

[@Pimp_Shrimp]

@@AlexRubio My point stands.

[@AlexRubio]

@@Pimp_Shrimp NO, it does not. There's so many how to's out and free tutorials, but yet many still don't do it correctly. Start to read and understand English.

[@Pimp_Shrimp]

@Alejandro Rubio "Start to read and understand english." Hahaha. I'm a law student, I'm sure I can read and understand English just fine Alejandro. Fyi, you aren't a genius for knowing how to build a PC. Knew how to when I was like 8 and built one fine, it isn't difficult. My point still stands.

[@bobsaget6720]

Frame chasers real name is Ivan???? I’ve been watching him for way to long and I always thought it was Jufes

[@ilyaasguelmim2994]

Hi man what do you think about rx *6800xt + i5 13600k* for gaming and productivity and im very confused between i5 and r7 5800x3d for gaming i want t know i have psu 650w and i know that rx6800xt needs 300w and i5 13600k need arround 170w so it's 470w in total with other specs like ram ssd m.2 fans if we gave them 50w it will be in total 520 so there still 130w remaining i want to know if i undervolt the gpu and i overclock i5 do u think i will have a good performance on gaming like r7 5800x3d the mobo im using is *msi pro z690-A ddr4* so please give me an answer🙏🩵🙏🩵🙏🩵🙏🩵🙏🩵

[@how2pick4name]

Buildzoid apparently had it boost to 6Ghz. I still have to watch his video but, yeah. :o Edit: Nm, I'm blind, it was a 13900K.

[@vertigo1721]

Can you do the same thing for the i9 13th gen?

[@gus_abreu]

What are your thoughts on intel turbo boost? I feel the temperature of the CPU goes crazy when activated. After I disable ITB, the temp does not go higher than 50° C.

[@Ultrajamz]

Ball is in Ryzen 7000 3D’s court.

[@ivankovachev8835]

Not if the 3D V-Cache cost 33-50% more for 0-20% more performance like the 5800X3D did. The Ryzen 7 7600x and 7700x are already very poorly priced.

[@AndreMiguelLopes69]

How is the Z690 doing with voltage regulation on the 13600K ? I'm asking this because in the past, newer CPU's on older chipset's always give too much voltage on adaptative or offset ! I know that they have a minus signal to subtract voltage ... but I'm asking either way !

[@DaSesh]

z790 only handles faster memory and has more usb thats it im on z690 and my `13700K rippppin

[@Critzenkills]

got 2080ti with my 13600k coming in shortly, u guys think the gpu will be bottlenecking the cpu?

[@My_Legs_Are_OK]

Finally, Elden Ring in a CPU test. Somehow "mainstream" tech channels never feature it. Or I am blind, hehe.

[@davidandrew6855]

I thought Elden Ring had a hard 60fps frame cap from the developer.

[@ivankovachev8835]

@@davidandrew6855 Nope

[@davidandrew6855]

@@ivankovachev8835 I'm pretty sure it did when it came out.

[@madarasoun3018]

I hope you do 65w or undervolting performance of 13600k.

[@TheGoodOldGamer]

I’ll be doing the 13900k with a low profile itx cooler for sff build ;) probably need to run it at 1-1.5v but it’ll be interesting to see what clocks we get at that voltage

[@madarasoun3018]

@@TheGoodOldGamer That's great too. Not that I'm interested in sff build but i wanna see 13th gen cpu performance when we prioritize efficiency.

[@AdrianMuslim]

@@TheGoodOldGamer *$330 for 6 core CPU! 🙄 How will only 6 cores handle future games?! We need at least 8 real cores now & specially for future-proofing. BTW, E-Cores hurt gaming performance so they dont count.*

[@ivankovachev8835]

@@AdrianMuslim You don't need more than a 6 core with extra small cores for background tasks, because the consoles are 8 core Zen 2 at 3.5Ghz and they use only 7 of those cores for the games. Even a 6 core Zen 2 at 5.7Ghz can do more than the 8 core zen 2 at 3.5Ghz console CPUs in terms of multitasking and single-task performance. If you go and check the Ryzen 5 5600x vs Ryzen 7 3700x in games you will notice that both have the same CPU usage in games, but the R5 5600x is faster by about 5-15%, so you have the same room for multi-tasking on both. Then imagine the Ryzen 5 7600x or i5 13600k with the higher IPC, cache and clock speeds. Plus the 13600k has the E-cores for background tasks.

[@zawiszaczarny1749]

@@AdrianMuslim u sound broke lol

[@poepflater]

Prices are still wild in my country... I guess I will be on my 12100 for a while still.

[@XX-_-XX420]

same lol. I got it running at 5.2ghz ( can do 5.3 but it requires a lot of voltage) and its good enough to run any game at max setting and run into a game bottleneck were it cant fully use the cpu anyways.

[@lotusblack7535]

so basically for gaming you might as well just go for the 12th gen but if you're doing a lot of productivity things like editing &whatnot you want the 13th gen?

[@XX-_-XX420]

I think kinda im not sure myself. looking for a possible upgrade, but the single core performance of a overclocked 13900k would only be about 7% faster which is pretty bad cuz I only game and thats what I need more of.

[@karamalinumberone7478]

5.7 ! WOW ! 6Ghz is the new 5Ghz

[@kallesalo9688]

for an aircooler turning e-cores off is good but ecores actually improve gaming performance in most games on 13gen intel cpus. They also degrease performance in some games but its fewer amount. OFC higher overclocks might negate that performance loss without e-cores and then it would be worth it turning those off even with watercooling

[@Greez1337]

Don't see the point unless you need E-cores. With that much boost increase and best tuned RAM equating to a smidge more performane....I'd rather have people save money on a 12600K, or just wait for X3D to see what that bring for gaming.

[@Statvar]

Not everyone’s trying to save money, i need to oc my 13600k for my 4080 super. I try to get the best thing according to my budget

[@Carlos-uv6tu]

how can I run a ddr5 6000MHz when the speed limit memory on the i-5 13600k is 5600MHz?

[@lrexoticgaming5636]

xmp will overclock the memory controller so it should be fine

[@pokemon1666]

From my experience I get better FPS with ecores ON. My 13600kf is stable 5.6/4.5@1.29V Beast of a cpu

[@MrCryptonxxx]

Thats lucky lol well done ! May I ask what motherboard do you have and what cooler ? Thanks in advance

[@pokemon1666]

@@MrCryptonxxx Mobo is z690 A pro and cooler Navis F240

[@MrCryptonxxx]

@@pokemon1666 I think I'm going to need you in some days ! I ordered 13600kf z690 D5 gigabyte ud ax , 32gb ram 5600 cl40 And arctic freezer 360 aio. (My previous build was 8700k 16gb ram 3200 cl16) am I going to see any difference? xD

[@pokemon1666]

@@MrCryptonxxx it all depends on which games you play and what gpu u use. In eSports games you will surely notice the difference

[@syrex471]

How much watts do it drains and how much degree does it get hot I want to buy for my 13 kf be quit with 200tdp is it enough?

[@mikathegaything]

this guy sounds kinda like tech jesus

[@thestroller7142]

I was wondering if there's a huge difference between running on DDR4 and DDR5?

[@WAGYUUU_]

There's some performance difference, but not worth it's not worth the price

[@tilapiadave3234]

Some difference in certain games etc but STILL NOT worth the extra cost in my opinion ,,, I am thinking another 12 months until DDR5 becomes worth buying

[@tek1645]

Rx 6750 XT reference for $400 CAD (Under $300 USD)

[@KoustavBhandari]

Bro my i5 13600kf touch 100⁰c on 100% load is this normal in india, jharkhand *( non ac room )* around 30⁰c room temp. ? With *ak620 cooler*

[@fyme138]

Which motherboard ur using?

[@KoustavBhandari]

@@fyme138 msi pro z690 a wifi ddr4

[@fyme138]

@@KoustavBhandari I’m planning to buy mobo without oc for my 13600k which is best with ur knowledge should I go for asrock b660 steel legend or msi pro b760m any suggestions

[@KoustavBhandari]

@@fyme138 if you don't overclock your processor then go with msi pro b760m, but if you want to overclock your processor then buy z690 or z790 ( but remember it is all about your budget )

[@zenstrata]

People often severely underestimate air cooling. A good air cooler can do amazing things.

[@urkent4463]

yep. my waterpump doesn't do sh*t cause i have none Matterhorn 210Watts Cooler on 13600K - no more than 90° in CB /easy to fit - rasping out the largest hole on the mounting bracket on one side - to fit 1700 such a nice cooler for 10$ used

[@eeekay2955]

Hello guys I recently bought a new rx6800xt GPU and is paired with a ryzen 2700x need suggestions to change cpu and mobo beacuse 2700x bottlenecks my GPU. What should I go for 5900x with x570 board 7600x with ddr5 ram or 13600 i5 with ddr5 ram

[@davidandrew6855]

I would keep your board, get a bios update if it has one, and drop in a 5700x, unless you really need 12 cores. You would save a lot of money and at 1440p I think you would be GPU bound with a 6800xt. If you can't reuse the board, then I would take the plunge and build new. I'd probably lean toward the 7600x/B650 route as you would certainly have upgrade options in the future. I think LGA 1700 has now upgrade path after Raptor Lake.

[@mer1boss_883]

so do you think i should get a 3060 ti with an i5 13600k or a 12400k. Im only choosing a 3060 ti bc i play warzone and it is cpu heavy.

[@mer1boss_883]

@Percuma but I can’t afford a new pc rn so I have to buy a used one and one of the best deals I could find is a 3070ti and a Ryzen 9 5900x for around 1k pounds. Is it worth it ?

[@mer1boss_883]

@Percuma and is there even a big difference in the Ryzen 9 5900x and the i5 13600k ?

[@mer1boss_883]

@Percuma can I use a 3070 ti with a i7 13700k ? Would it have bottleneck on Warzone ?

[@mer1boss_883]

@Percuma but when I watch other yt vids they get like 160 fps same build

[@mer1boss_883]

@Percuma thanks bro

[@ItsJustVV]

What timings do you have on the DDR4 4000 tune? You stopped short of showing them.

[@Longlostpuss]

It won't be CAS 15, that's for sure. To be fair though, RAM speed is much of a muchness, it doesn't make that much difference in the real world, the overall board delivery will make more of one. Maybe another two generations down the line like DDR6 or something.

[@dardan1a915]

@@Longlostpuss It is 4000 cl 15 those viper 4400 can do ez

[@ItsJustVV]

@@dardan1a915 I wold not say easy, but it is the goal for those to achieve. Depends of silicon lottery for all CPU, MB, RDAM kit how good of a tune you get. That's why I wanted to know what he actually got.

[@dardan1a915]

@@ItsJustVV I said ram can achieve 4000cl15 ez not cpu my 12600k is 3900cl15 max i have 3 kits 4400cl19 2x8gb one of them can do 5200cl19 lol ofc in gear2

[@blindman8093]

any itx motherboard that not so expensive to undervolt this cpu 13600k without losing performance

[@NBWDOUGHBOY]

Man, Im torn between the 13600K and 13700KF. I plan on keeping it for a while so it seems like its a good idea to go with the 13700K just to stretch it a little bit more. But either at, Great stuff by Intel. They are bringing the goods with this generation.

[@VoldoronGaming]

Absolutely horrendous company to buy from. Completely unethical.

[@DFS1999]

@@VoldoronGaming Just remember, AMD is a publicly traded company too. Their current gen costs way more to hop on to than last gen did on launch and isn't really worth it for mid tier computers at this point.

[@miraculousgaming8200]

Im in the same boat i think the difference is around ~ 5% depending on the game. I want an answer 😂

[@Matias-wu6xp]

@@VoldoronGamingSo despite hating Intel you took the time to watch an Intel related video just to comment that you will never buy Intel? 🙄

[@VoldoronGaming]

@@DFS1999 That is how it always is with a new platform. This AM5 platform sits right in the range of a mid-range computer from 1200 to 1600.00 like all previous entire platform upgrades. If you already have a gpu, storage, psu and case you're looking at $688.00. A comparable system with DDR4 3600 with a same price point B660 motherboard as a B650 and same price point with ram...$683.00...Now with that initial $688.00 investment you will be able to upgrade to a hypothetical 9600X3d on the same motherboard and ram...intel 13th gen is a dead platform. No upgrade path...and intel 15h gen will be out which would be a new motherboard, new socket and since you used a DDR4 motherboard with 13th gen you will need new ddr5 ram. So when building a computer that will last you 4 or 5 years will pay you dividends now in what it will save you in cost to upgrade later. For the pricepoint I outlined I used almost the exact same dollar cost for each part. DDR4 ram that cost around 115.00 and the DDR5 6000 ram was 30.00 more. Motherboard were same price. Used the same cooler choice. So the current gen does not cost way more than last gen. System I outlined is prices for a 13600k system and a Ryzen 7600X. Minus cost for GPU, Storage, Case and PSU if you already have those things. Either way the cost difference in this mid tier is $5.00.

[@ragiponsoy2289]

I didnt see cpu freqs neither at stress nor game tests.

[@MrSamadolfo]

😒👍 Raptors have been set free! 🦖🦖🦖🦖🦖🦖

[@93836]

Or, you can just get a 7800X3D. It’s, on average, faster than a 14900k in gaming. I have a Noctua air cooler on mine and the thing is usually sitting in the 60’s during games. And even running a 4090, I can only think of 1 game where I am CPU limited - Hogwarts Legacy with ray tracing enabled. Even then, enable Frame Generation and I’m locked to 120fps. Life is good.

[@goa141no6]

This cpu runs a 5.1 GHz at stock so it will have 90% of max performance on a b660 board, Nice.

[@AndrewTSq]

I run my 12600k on a b660 with unlocked powerdraw. Seems to be doing well stock. Or you mean 90% if its not overclocked maybe

[@goa141no6]

@@AndrewTSq i mean 90% non OC, which is around 12700 stock, i am interested because I want to buy one but z690 board are expensive. My target is 120 1% at all times, but i don't have enough data to confirm 120 in all games just, most of them, although that is a good reason to buy already.

[@AdrianMuslim]

*$330 for 6 core CPU! 🙄 How will only 6 cores handle future games?! We need at least 8 real cores now & specially for future-proofing. BTW, E-Cores hurt gaming performance so they dont count.*

[@standardcoffee2001]

i think my cpu silicon lottery is trash , cache cant go higher than 4600mhz and core cant exceed 5400mhz at 1.3V

[@conyo985]

Next gen CPUs will get 6GHz boost easy!

[@Eternalozzie]

so ... no games features use efficiency cores? i find that hard to believe.

[@Krenisphia]

Efficiency cores are not strong enough to power games properly, that's not what they're designed to do.

[@Krenisphia]

@Transistor Jump Don't change the subject.

[@fist003]

its the game that aren't designed to use the e-cores. Even not all of the games use all of the P-cores.

[@kv70]

Can you test the 13700k with air cooler?

[@ivankovachev8835]

Bad idea. Even the i5 13600k can't run worst case scenario with the cooler, imagine the i7 13700k.

[@zawiszaczarny1749]

@@ivankovachev8835 ppl wanna but a beast cpu & cheap out on the cooler lol

[@ivankovachev8835]

@@zawiszaczarny1749 Yeah, bad idea. Up to the 13600k you can get away with a big air cooler though. Especially if you are just gaming.

[@Nick-vd7cg]

@@ivankovachev8835 a Noctua D15 and a watercooler is like 1 or 2 degree difference, dont underestimate good old aircooling, watercooling is legit a waste of money. Went from a 360 aio to the NH-D15 and the performance is the same lol....

[@ivankovachev8835]

@@Nick-vd7cg First it depends on how much power the chip dissipates, if both coolers are overkill then the limiting factor is the temperature transfer from the TIM to the contact plate. If we are talking about an i7 13700k anything less than the holy trinity(Aida64, Prime95 and Furmark) running at the same time for a few hours, is not a proper stress test (without any power limits). Another thing is that the big heavy air cooler is hanging from the motherboard, which isn't nice if you transfer your PC left and right.

[@recession_guy6613]

13600K even beats 5800X3D

[@VoldoronGaming]

At 1080p which is a resolution NOBODY would use these cpus at. Watch David owen since he explains what cpu reviews actually mean in context. Look at the techpowerup review of the 8700k. It is literally no faster than a 1500 Ryzen 5 in 4k so why would you ever spend more money than a Ryzen 5 if 4k is your target resolution? This is how it has always been for midrange. Buy the midrange and put the money saved into your GPU. I have been reading hardware reviews for 25 years and this rule has always been the same. Mid range cpu high end gpu.

[@liammata3029]

@@VoldoronGaming building my first PC and that’s pretty much me. 13600k & 4090 at 4k. Should last a while

[@AdrianMuslim]

*$330 for 6 core CPU! 🙄 How will only 6 cores handle future games?! We need at least 8 real cores now & specially for future-proofing. BTW, E-Cores hurt gaming performance so they dont count.*

[@innocentiuslacrim2290]

@@AdrianMuslim

[@AdrianMuslim]

@@innocentiuslacrim2290 Letting people know is not spamming.

[@echt114]

Games? Don't care. How's this for H264 encoding, DxO PhotoLab Deep Prime, etc compared to comparable Ryzen?

[@VIPThe]

ak 620 this cooler is so loud. you don't know the reason? unplayable like the sound of a vacuum cleaner or a hair dryer

[@filipoobrad6873]

Why dont you jsut test a cpu intensive game, like valorant or csgo

[@Lennox032]

Be interesting to see what Ryzen 7000 3d chips bring to the table.

[@TheGoodOldGamer]

Should be a banger honestly. Just hoping there are reasonable boards (sub $150,) at launch. I’ll be snagging one of those

[@ivankovachev8835]

I'm not interested. Just look at the prices of Ryzen 7000 series, now add 33-50% on top of that for 0-20% extra performance.

[@IAMNOTRANA]

This video become obsolete the moment you mention "disable E core"

[@sudd3660]

think the 13600k is on par with last gen 12700k, and that was a great allrounder when i got it. but the 13600k cost the same as 12700k back then. so we got nowhere in this generation? no new cost vs performance. when the new is not doing anything new other than new higher ghz then i question it all.

[@HasimFN]

With the 12900

[@AdrianMuslim]

*$330 for 6 core CPU! 🙄 How will only 6 cores handle future games?! We need at least 8 real cores now & specially for future-proofing. BTW, E-Cores hurt gaming performance so they dont count.*

[@sudd3660]

@@AdrianMuslim indeed pricing is too high, but then its to be expected in the end times.

[@innocentiuslacrim2290]

@@AdrianMuslim muah, you just keep spamming that same comment.

[@AdrianMuslim]

@@innocentiuslacrim2290 Letting people know is not spamming.

[@ArielSasson]

sorry for downvoting. but if your gpu is bottlenecking your rig, this isn't a significative comparison.

[@techluvin7691]

Hmmmm ………….. definitely a binned chip Intel sent you. Not something “we the consumer” have access to which makes this entire video a moot point.

[@MrSamadolfo]

I would steer clear of Asrock

[@strelokscar2578]

These 6 core Intel CPU's are really good. Imagine how nice will be if anyone will only buy Intel and AMD would go away and Intel can get back to selling us these 6 core one for $1k like they did in the past. Good times ahead for all of us!

[@ivankovachev8835]

As if AMD hasn't been selling us a 6 core/12 thread for 300$ for 5 generations, 3 process nodes and an improved version of each respectively(12nm is improver 14nm, 7nm EUV is improved 7nm LPP and the current 5nm is an improved version of what came out in 2020) and almost 6 years now... just like intel did with their quad cores from 2011 to 2017...

[@andersbjorkman8666]

I've been using Intel processors for many years (I have also used AMD, but that was athlon), but I love AMD, without them and their incredible step-up the latest years, Intel would fuck everyone as hard as they could (as they used to).

[@Player_g1]

how could you fall for this if you need to test cpu you can crank the settings and resolution down just to see how much is it better no need for high end gpu!!

[@lukas-a9234]

Wtf you tested with a 3060ti

[@mamamia5668]

1.28VOlts for 5.7????? WHat the fuUck

[@PaulFilmer]

Spending the same on a CPU as you do on a GPU is a poor use of money.

[@oynamalan]

SA should be 1.1V

[@bios9678]

5.4 cache? WTF

[@Raven-lg7td]

gg objective Chris not is just another Intel shill channel

[@Kynareth6]

What you call a "huge boost"? That would be 900%. 0-7% is nothing. How are games supposed to evolve in this situation? When CPUs barely move forward? For games to evolve we need orders of magnitude higher performance, not stagnating in one place. Downvoted for the utterly stupid title.

[@TheGoodOldGamer]

+500mhz with virtually the same settings on the same node IS impressive.

[@Kynareth6]

@@TheGoodOldGamer It is impressive when your previous one was at 1000 MHz.

[@Kynareth6]

@@TheGoodOldGamer You yourself said a month ago that an overclocked i7-2600K is enough for 60+ fps gaming. How about now making games 10x more advanced? How many frames would we have then?

[@IIHydraII]

Microsoft activation script, you're welcome ;)

[@weroliera]

So test is a dud cause of 3060ti

[@ivankovachev8835]

Less than 3% of people have a GPU stronger than the RTX 3060Ti/3070 or RX 6650XT/6700XT...

[@raylopez99]

The 13600k draws a TDP of 125W power, which is ten times my 2021 Ryzen 7 which nearly works as fast for most apps including Fortnite gaming. But hey, if you're an "enthusiast" or an Intel shill (we own stock in INTC so it's fine by me) by all means tout the 13600K, it's all good for us INTC shareholders.

[@vor946]

Ryzen 7 works at 12.5W? xd

[@J0ttaD]

Ur video makes no sense dude, low end gpu, didnt show cpu voltages anywhere and missing more monitoring info... 😑

[@MobileIndifference]

Weeeeeeee..

[@AKMcF]

DDR5

[@efx245precor3]

Asrock just say no

[@theoldpcgamer77]

Unless you have a 240hz monitor then who cares. If so you need a 13900k.

[@ivankovachev8835]

Even the i5 13600k gets 300fps+ in most games given a strong enough GPU, but that said 97% of people have a RTX 3060Ti/3070 or weaker...

[@drhighpinger7934]

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[@BonusCrook]

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