18. Jehoiachin, Belshazzar, and the Fall of Babylon

[@followingjesus2028]

Thank you Mr. Gore! I really needed to hear that Sunday school lesson, to shed light on my situation. God bless you

[@claytondennis8034]

Thank you Mr. Gore. Your Sunday school lessons mixed with history are speaking to me in my current situation. I thank The Father for the blessing of finding your series.

[@ChristHamilton]

Thank you so so interesting

[@lancehiltbrand7811]

This lecture series is gold.

[@candichaney2873]

I found your videos yesterday and I can’t stop watching! So wonderful! I’m now on 18. I intend to go back, watch again and take notes. I found these trying to find out about the Maccabees from a book I was reading but soon found out I wanted to start at the first video. Wonderfully done sir

[@abrahamspies7611]

Young man. Study the scripture. It’s the most precious thing on earth. May Jesus bless you.

[@geocapistrano4364]

Thank you for sharing this series on KZbin! Truly enlightening and helpful. I also would like to thank you for the very encouraging words at the end, they have given me hope! God bless you and your family 🙏🏽

[@studywithmefolks5809]

At 32:53, he says that the words were known to Belshazzar. Daniel 5:7-8 tells us that Belshazzar called for the wisemen and desires them to read the words and tell him the meaning. They could not read the words or tell the meaning. Daniel does read the words and give the meaning. It is very much assumption (which this dude gives us plenty of during his lectures) that Belshazzar could read it when scripture tells us he needed someone to read it. Just something to point out as we soak up this knowledge. Be mindful of people's opinions, especially if scripture alludes to something different.

[@danielhopkins296]

Dear Bruce, thank you for these presentations.

[@GoreBruce]

You are very welcome! Thanks for the encouragement!

[@ywarda8322]

God bless you brother.

[@sanjaymalwe3529]

Wonderful way of teaching Bruce. it is a real blessing. Thank you and God bless you

[@GoreBruce]

Thank you! ...and blessings to you and yours as well.

[@gmstruthbetold1447]

​@@GoreBruce in Ezekiel 4:4-7 do you know what the 430 years represents?

[@GoreBruce]

@@gmstruthbetold1447 It has been a matter of some speculation: I give you the following from the Pulpit Commentary: Jerome and Origen bear witness to the fact that most copies of the former gave 190 years, some 150 and others, agreeing with the Hebrew, 390. The first of these numbers fits in with the thought that Ezekiel's act was to represent the period of the punishment of the northern kingdom. That punishment starts from the first captivity under Pekah about B.C. 734. Reckoning from that date, the 190 years bring us to about B.C. 544. The punishment of Judah, in like manner, dates from the destruction of Jerusalem in B.C. 586, and the forty years bring us to B.C. 546, a date so near the other, that, in the round numbers which Ezekiel uses, they may be taken as practically coinciding. It was to that date that the prophet, perhaps, unacquainted with Jeremiah's seventy years (Jer 25:12), with a different starting point ( B.C. 600) and terminus ( B.C. 536), looked forward as the starting point of the restoration of Israel. It is obvious that Ezekiel contemplated the contemporaneous restoration of Israel and Judah (Ezek 16:53-55; 37:19-22; 47:13), as indeed Isaiah also seems to do (11:13,14), and Jeremiah (31:6,12,27). The teaching of Ezekiel's acts, then, had two distinct purposes.

[@LJrock101]

Bruce, my man ✊🏻🏄🏻‍♂️

[@bobthebuilder9553]

I truly enjoy Mr. Gore's exposition of the history..

[@mail2nadapurayil]

sir, i am very thankful to you for this wonderful session. It was God's favor that I came across your wonderful channel that gives very detailed explanation of the history of the bible. Recently i got interested to learn about the history in the old testment as most of the things I didnt understand while reading. but now i am getting a clear picture of my roots..... Greetings from India.

[@jackjones9460]

Can you recommend a clear-ish history of the earliest recorded Indian history? I understand the land was often divided but I know almost nothing of Indian history now. I thank you in advance.

[@VSP4591]

Excellent presentation. Congratulation

[@GoreBruce]

Thank you!

[@jamellfoster6029]

Thank you Mr. Gore for your very detailed, yet Holy Spirit filled Bible Studies... As an accountant, details are very important... You truly bring the Bible to life & make it very relatable to any & everyone...

[@juanevangelista4552]

Thanks Mr Gore, I couldn't stop watching your historical series. Now I don't have to ask my self what am I going to watch this time. Your historical information are are practically reliable. I salute your efforts. May God keep you safe from Covid 19. From Philippines

[@GoreBruce]

Thank you!

[@blacckz]

thank you soooo much...I learn a lot from your videos may God bless you

[@GoreBruce]

You, my friend, are most welcome!

[@VisionClearly]

I agree.

[@marjanwitteveen1688]

Super. Greatings from the netherlands.

[@teresalee9997]

Many thanks for these history lesson along with the Bible this has helped me in understanding the Old Testament.

[@GoreBruce]

Thank you!

[@tinab1200]

Phenomenal video, and anointed.

[@onefeather2]

Listening again, God Bless.

[@jtlearn1]

Sundays are primarily The Lord's Day who has guaranteed Evil will not ultimately prevail and all its misdeeds shall be redeemed for good. Contemplating the Lord on Sundays makes "our cup runneth over." Ps: 23

[@dr.stevebishop8395]

Excellent!

[@BruceWayne-th8gv]

Ezekiels message was to console the exiles by telling them God is so to speak coming into exile with them

[@gilgalbiblewheel6313]

I love your historical biblical narrative!

[@maxalcindor7130]

Thank you for the teaching I really enjoy it 🙏

[@kevinbrislawn5918]

Great message we heard a similar story line from my pastor Dave at Gold Canyon Community Church

[@flamelily2086]

If the story of Nebuchafnezzar becoming like a beast was true the Bablyonians' would never have admitted it.

[@pJ005-k9i]

Yeah, that was a so true, why would you embarrass the guy who built the city and made it a superpower

[@FirstLast-il6ok]

So everyone engaged in propaganda but the Israelites… riiiiiight

[@Bazooka_Sharks]

Whats funny is its an actual identified disease now too

[@jamellfoster6029]

I don't know about tomorrow. I just live from day to day. I don't borrow from its sunshine. For its skies may turn to gray. I don't worry about my future. For I know what Jesus says. And today, He walks beside me. For He knows what lies ahead. Many things about tomorrow. I don't seem to understand. But I know Who holds tomorrow. And I know Who holds my hand... Thank You Lord for keeping me even when I can't see exactly what You are doing. You always work things out for the Good of them that love You and who are called according to Your Purpose... *Side note: Jehoiachin/Jeconiah wasn't exactly an old man in the 37th year of Exile... He was between 53 & 57... I guess they may have viewed that as old but I'm about to be 42 & I have siblings in that age range so that isn't old to me...

[@GoreBruce]

Thank you! and thanks for the clarification!

[@jamellfoster6029]

@@GoreBruce you are welcome... I guess they considered 50+ to be old.... Smh... That's far from old...

[@gmsthisvilekingdom3390]

The LORD showed Joachin mercy because the saviour would come out hia loins..he's called the Lord signet

[@MelanCholy2001]

Uh, the Holy Mother didn't come from Solomon's line at all, but rather King David's son *Nathan*. You may be thinking of her husband, who contributed no DNA to the Son of God. At least according to Holy Writ.

[@frazerpiccolo4484]

Jehoachin in Jer. 52: 31-34 maybe a parallel passage of a post tribulation rapture: He was released after 37 years (over the half point of 70 ), paralleling Daniels 7 years. (v31) he was lifted up (v33) he was given new clothes, and (V33) he was allowed to eat at the kings table for the rest of his life.

[@stanley1771]

Thank you so much for detailing the timeline of the destruction of Jerusalem in 586bce. The JWs adamantly claim it was 607 to support their belief of Jesus invisible return in the year 1914.

[@lmcpainting916]

Ezekiel 12:12 13 prophesied of Zedekiah trying to escape

[@gilgalbiblewheel6313]

I would assume that the things written in 1 and 2 Samuel, 1 and 2 Kings, and 1 and 2 Chronicles were from the original books or diaries written during the kings' reigns as mentioned similar to: [Esther 2:23 KJV] 23 And when inquisition was made of the matter, it was found out; therefore they were both hanged on a tree: and it was written in the book of the chronicles before the king. [Esther 6:1 KJV] 1 On that night could not the king sleep, and he commanded to bring the book of records of the chronicles; and they were read before the king. [Esther 10:2 KJV] 2 And all the acts of his power and of his might, and the declaration of the greatness of Mordecai, whereunto the king advanced him, [are] they not written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of Media and Persia? And these things pre-date Herodotus.

[@blacckz]

i found it extremely interesting that 13yr old Labshi Marduk was said to be vicious, ive tried in vain to find out more information on this, i would appreciate some assistance on this.....if possible, thanks

[@GoreBruce]

+blacckz A good resource is Joan Oates, Babylon (Thames and Hudson) and the sources cited therein.

[@blacckz]

***** Thanks alot....I'd look into that Sir

[@studywithmefolks5809]

At 23:18, he means to say Nabopolassar, not Nabonidus.

[@ryanwyrick6947]

can someone drop a link to the video before this video? and maybe one before that? looking for more background to this.. thanks

[@brucegore4373]

You can find this entire series as a playlist at my channel (historical context of the Bible). Thanks for your interest!kzbin.infoplaylists?view_as=subscriber

[@jesuschristismygodtotheglo7533]

The dream of Nebuchadnezzar of the tree is seen from the ends of the earth. Like many verses in Scripture, this reveals a flat earth in our confounding times.

[@SuperPee78]

Could i ask from which playlist this video is from please Bruce. Thank you brother ---bows---

[@SuperPee78]

Found it thanks Bruce

[@andreitabacaru8378]

If Nabonidus is the father of Belshazzar then why in Daniel 5:18 Nebuchadnezzar is mentioned as the father of Belshazzar?

[@GoreBruce]

It was common to refer to an earlier ancestor as the 'father' of the person in question. For a detailed discussion of the rulers of Babylon, see Joan Oates, 'Babylon.'

[@andreitabacaru8378]

@@GoreBruce Thanks for answering! Could this be the reason why the children of Israel said in John 8:39 that Abraham is their father? In your conment you said it was common for an early ancestor but Abraham was a very distant ancestor. In the context of the Chapter were they reffering to a spirutual father or was the same as Daniel calling Nebuchandezzar as the father of Belshazzar in a sense of liniage or ancestor tree not necessary as an spiritual father? I also observed that Abraham Isaac and Iacob were mentioned as the parents of Israel (Deut. 6:10; 9:5) even though they were long gone.

[@GoreBruce]

@@andreitabacaru8378 The Jewish people believed that having Abraham as their biological ancestor made Abraham their 'father' and therefore made them the 'chosen people.' The New Testament rejects the idea that the chosen people descend biologically from Abraham, and declares rather that the 'seed of Abraham' are those who place their faith in Christ (e.g., Galatians 3).

[@jaywinters2483]

His voice is like the famous game show host Bob Barker.

[@gilgalbiblewheel6313]

I'm surprised though that, despite Babylon, being a religious center where Senacherib destroyed their temple, Nebuchadnezzar would do the same to Jerusalem.

[@Shakkarz]

I've read up little on limitations as a little boy so long ago not just love any story.

[@yimgajude5340]

I have a question. Daniel 5 repeatedly refers to Belshazzar as the son of Nebuchadnezzar. Apparently, there are 5 kings between them . How is this so?

[@GoreBruce]

The term 'father' is often applied to earlier generations.

[@masada2828]

Belshazzar is the grandson of Nebuchadnezzar. After all the Israelites are only in exile for 70 years before they can return.

[@gilgalbiblewheel6313]

Wasn’t Belshazzar the son of Nebuchadnezzar? Or Nabonidus? Or both?

[@GoreBruce]

Belshazzar was the son of Nabonidus, and a descendant of Nebuchadnezzar. It was not uncommon to call a man the 'son' of one of his ancestors.

[@gilgalbiblewheel6313]

Bruce Gore makes sense. I wondered if Daniel 7 was prophetic or historic to his time since he saw it in Belshazzar’s time the vision of 4 beasts of which the first represented Babylon. I mean, what’s the point of showing something that’s been fulfilled already and for that reason Daniel is in Babylon already? I also wonder if there is a difference between heads and horns? Horns are used for defence for animals, so that might might be a symbolism of military where heads might be more for authority. But the 3rd beast has 4 heads and 4 wings whereas in Daniel 8 the he-goat has 4 horns. But in Revelation the beast and the Dragon have heads and horns. Acts and Revelation, by the way correlate to each other in the Biblewheel (see my videos) since Acts is the 22nd book of the 2nd cycle and Revelation is the 22nd book of the 3rd cycle. And Acts 12 links/relates to Revelation 12, whereas Acts 13 links to Revelation 13 with Elymas/Barjesus the sorcerer tries to sway Sergius Paulus from listening Paul. Revelation 13, of course mentions the false prophet.

[@yimgajude5340]

@@GoreBruce just for the sake of clarification sir. You said we don’t know Nabonidus’ claim to the throne. How are we sure that Belshazzar is Nebuchadnezzar’s descendant? Just to know. Thank you sir

[@GoreBruce]

@@yimgajude5340 Babylonian records are sketchy. Few doubt that Nabonidus had a legitimate claim, probably by marriage, but the precise details are obscure. For current unbiased and scholarly reflection on the current state of our knowledge as to ancient Babylon, consult Joan Oates, Babylon.

[@yimgajude5340]

@@GoreBruce thank you sir

[@sissiemae845]

In one picture you showed it’s written. “The cry of Jeremiah on the destruction of Jerusalem ( Moscow). What does Jerusalem have to do with Moscow??? Thank you.

[@GoreBruce]

That is a credit to the artist.

[@gruboniell4189]

Sounds like there was more spies then rulers. Rings writhing rings is occults within occults. Circle of priesthoods that know god would be in two priest sects. But one hidden with different borders/boundaries.

[@csdr0]

Jehoiakim did not commit suicide. He was bound in chains and taken prisoner by Nebuchadnezzar - 2 Chronicles 36:6

[@brucegore4373]

Yes, he certainly was, but evidence from the many references to Jehoiakim in Jeremiah strongly suggested Jehoiakim was reinstated sometime later, bound by loyalty oath to Nebuchadnezzar, an oath he eventually broke, giving rise to the subsequent attack when he died, possibly (but not necessarily) by suicide.

[@brianadavis6796]

Bruce, You may want to give the Jews credit, (as well as Herodotus) for writing very good, balanced and accurate history.

[@GoreBruce]

Certainly, although the Hebrew scriptures are much more selective because of the focus on redemptive history.

[@josephcox6632]

I believe there were writings from Evil-Merdoch (in the British Museum) about his father Nebuchadnezzar acting very strangely, in a way that implies insanity. So I don't believe there are no records of the madness of Nebuchadnezzar.

[@GoreBruce]

Interesting!

[@bobthebuilder9553]

Wasn't the last king of Judah, Jehoiachin, with a son named Zerubbabel? And didn't he accompany the Jews back to Israel?

[@SoyElZarkoStudio]

This guy is unreal how he thinks of the prophets

[@rstora01]

Cyrus ordered his engineers to dig canals to divert the waters of the Euphrates in order to pass in and conquer ancient Babylon. Rev 16:12-14 The 6th Angel poured out the 6th bowl of wrath and the Euphrates dried up to make the way for Armageddon and the destruction of Mystery Babylon (Rev 16:19) An illustration from the pass to point toward a future event?

[@masada2828]

The 6th vial or, drying up of the Euphrates River represents the drying up of the Ottoman Empire. In 1917 Palestine was retaken so the Jew could return because the Jew has to be in the land before Jesus Christ can return.

[@bobthebuilder9553]

"You've been weighed in the balance and found wanting." A poor translation of the writing on the wall.

[@rebanelson607]

Daniel was giving an INTERPRETATION, not just a translation. Remember, "the spirit of the holy gods" was with Daniel. He wasn't just a translator.

[@bobthebuilder9553]

But Daniel is not dated to this time, but to the 2nd century BCE.

[@GoreBruce]

Yes, most of Old Testament history was written well after the events described. This historians based their accounts on written and oral tradition that they compiled. That, of course, applies to most of written history, whether biblical or not!

[@mylord9340]

Mr. Gores lectures are informative and interesting, but he inaccurately identified one of Daniel's beasts as Rome and the Roman empire. Rome is not a part of any of the visions in Daniel. The last gentile kingdom of the 4 kingdoms was supposed to have been the Greek empire.

[@GoreBruce]

Thanks for your perspective and the reminder that some take an alternative view.

[@frizellruckerjr3968]

You are very accurate in your accounts. No small feat for a Caucasian. Only one reguest. Identify the current ISRAELITES in a lesson only if it can be done without reprisals.

[@19king14]

It is agreed 586 is the last siege of Jerusalem. Might you know how 586 is specifically calculated? Thanks

[@allentlee1]

wow ... dollars, quartered, nickle ... thumbs up!

[@rehabsalman2782]

his name is emel meroduch not evil

[@GoreBruce]

Yes, of course. I'm am using the spelling commonly employed in English translations of the Old Testament.

[@PeteJab]

I think we will see Nebuchadnezzar in heaven one day.

[@saliksayyar9793]

The report is said to be from Ayesha (rta), not a chain to the Prophet (saww).

[@savagesavant4964]

The arrogance someone must have to call themselves "Gods chosen people" ....thinking they're better than everyone else.

[@elliasgeopheson7278]

Nebuchadnezza

[@Rebmilcsnik]

Many thanks for your fascinating study, very insightful & helpful. I wondered, what proof would you use for your date of the fall of Jerusalem as compared to the 607 date taught by Jehovah’s witnesses. This is important because the whole of JW theology rests on their 607 B.C. date as explained below. “The cutting down of the tree represents the destruction of the Kingdom of Judah by Nebuchadnezzar in 607 B.C. The "seven times" constitute 2,520 days, 7 years of only 360 days each The principle of "a day for a year" converts 2,520 days to 2,520 years The 2,520 years of the Gentile times ended in 1914, coinciding with the start of Jesus' heavenly rulership.” If the 607 date fails their theology fails.

[@GoreBruce]

The fall of Jerusalem in 586 is universally accepted by virtually every scholar of the Old Testament, including those of liberal, conservative, and Jewish frames of reference. The JW rejection of the date is not based on historical evidence, but on a priori assumptions that are necessary to support their otherwise misguided interpretative scheme.

[@Tadeletad]

i am an Amhara intellectual

[@SoyElZarkoStudio]

JEHOIAKIM JEHOIAKIM not JEHOIACHM