#19: Fighting Over The Same Gay Guy

[@ellendeluca4941]

This chapter read was priceless!! And so was your reading!! I so look forward to every new chapter of this book!!

[@cher_cher]

Same. I read this when it first came out, but loved her reading so much more. I’m down for a strictly Wallis book! 😂😬👌🏻

[@buttonhead1282]

Social Derelicts - lol! Great name for a punk band.

[@_ma1]

"she smiled for the camera like a robot. There was no feeling behind it" It reminds me of someone...

[@dt3802]

I'm glad I read the comments first because I was thinking of posting the same thing.

[@mj9949]

😂😂😂

[@creativewriter3887]

there was a line from the British Sitcom "Waiting for God" wherein Tom gets unnerved when Diana smiled.. "When you smile, it's like a fissure of hell opening".. lol And when I see Wallis smile, I'm always reminded of that line.

[@KarmaZeusBoi]

Goood grief. So Jimmy is to Wally as Marcus Andersen is to Megan.

[@DebbiSmithDC]

I wonder…😅🤭

[@dbrown8351]

Or Omid Scobie is to Meghan

[@kimtonearts]

Marcus can't stand Megan. He's like an Epstien, just keep all the rich shills happy and the money will keep flowing. Still, I bet he has to take a shower after hes been near her/them for long. Not that he's much better, but shes so thick he prolly has to wash the BS and "greater than thou" snobbery off. I can just see a room full of all that narcissism in one place, it's like 5G amplifies it. Makes me want to toss my cookies.

[@annemarionware2289]

Interesting point.

[@francescaderimini2931]

Touché

[@meganpodesta9197]

He liked to enjoy the protocol of royalty because it fed his ego and helped him forget that he was in exile. Deluded!

[@Rando15]

I almost feel sorry for the Duke, but it's fleeting because they're both awful people.

[@Happinc]

I know!! It’s sooo reminiscent of how I am imagining the hapless megalomaniac situation playing out!😵‍💫🐨🦘🦘🦘🦘🇦🇺😅

[@jenslims]

I laughed out loud when you said if only someone had told Harry his book was so bad 😂😂😂

[@bschultz7390]

Yikes ~ what a chapter indeed! On this series, I have to remind myself that this is not about Harry & wife & Marcus, Doria, etc…the parallels are shockingly similar. David’s life is a cautionary tale, if ever there was one! Thanks for another great video.

[@mkass2196]

Thank you for reviewing this book. You are a great storyteller 😂

[@janescott4574]

I think it was Jilly Cooper who said in her book Class, the behaviour of the upper class and the working class is similar because the former were brought up by the latter! If it hasn’t come your way, it’s a very funny but insightful book.

[@annrogers8129]

Oh wow! I loved Jilly Cooper’s book Class. Well worth the read.

[@janescott4574]

@@annrogers8129 I live in a village with several “Jen Teals”!!!!

[@irenedebruyn2796]

Also, the upper class can't lose, and the lower class have nothing to lose...

[@THATBossCricket]

@@irenedebruyn2796. Very well put!

[@tweetledd4709]

“…going to bed with a very old sailor.”😂😂😂 Wow. What a way to be described; old sailors are probably offended by this. The fact that Wallis considered herself the arbiter of social sophistication and gracious living makes this even richer. Like Harry’s wife, Wallis seemed oblivious to the less desirable aspects of their relationships, ignoring bad press and cherishing all other references as a true reflection of their contributions to society. Harry, like David, is unable to see further than his nose. Every part of their life has been part of history by virtue of their birth but the whole world exists only as it relates to THEM. There’s no awareness of the place for rules and protocol except as it relates to how they’re treated, how they’re received. The history of the Royal Family began and ended with their arrival on the scene; all effort must go into making THEM look good.

[@creativewriter3887]

Well, she HAS been on more yachts, boats and on the sea than sailors.. and she probably have the vulgarity of a port knocker. The more the book went on the more we find that people thought of her as a CRASS Coco Channel knock off. As my grandmother said... "putting a piece of sh-t in gold foil does not and will not ever make it Godiva".

[@cassandratq9301]

Your insight as to the sad, depressing life of hedonism that results from having no responsibility is a valuable one. Makes me appreciate Diana, who was trying to carve out some kind of meaningful life of helping the less fortunate.

[@sagrammyfour]

Jealousy is a most destructive emotion which has nothing to do with sex. It's about power and control, and at the core is a deep feeling of inadequacy and a desperate longing to be loved. It requires denial of the truth and irrational thought..On the surface these people seem to think they are superior, number one, but deep inside they believe they are pond scum, riddled with self-hatred and guilt. They are the most miserable beings on earth. Thanks again, Cheere, for your insight, humor, and for compassion for the unlovable.

[@debbiepatton9593]

Sitting here with my coffee on a Sunday morning listening to you read another chapter is my favorite way to start the day

[@cheeredenise]

I love that!! ❤️

[@marlenewolffe4613]

Thank you for a great chapter❤ I watched a short documentary on his brother the prince George. Just as bad as Edward!!! I think England got lucky with Bertie!

[@elliem4225]

Lol. I love that line, "collection of social derelicts." Awesome.

[@magsstewart5488]

“In love with the idea he’s convinced himself is her” “Refers to the Duke as her romance” ~David “She’s heart attack gorgeous” “Wife of this one over here” ~Harry

[@janetstevenson203]

Again excellent. (If you read the diaries of Chip Cannon, everyone referred to at the time seemed to be bi-sexual. Maybe we are just naive people.) The rudeness, meanness ,self centerdness and shallowness of these people knows no bounds - this is what makes it so fascinating. Hedonism writ large.

[@andrearoyd2942]

Prince Andrew often described as having haughty behaviour (The meaning of HAUGHTY is blatantly and disdainfully proud : having or showing an attitude of superiority and contempt for people or things perceived to be inferior.) Doesn't that seem about right.

[@BeBe76182]

It is entirely gross… just no better word for it.😬

[@JamieWiseacre]

Maybe they weren’t bisexual, just incredibly promiscuous and not picky about who they hooked with.

[@fabulousnewt770]

It's all those boarding schools 🤣🤣🤣

[@dianeshelton9592]

@@andrearoyd2942yes and also doesn’t it remind you of the Harkles who decided , no wee don’t want to work as royals but make sure you continue to address me as your royal highness. She sells coffee in adverts and does pap shots in car parks. Please tell me what is royal about that behaviour. As for there “ charity” work I think if you can’t show any benefit from your input after 3 months you are not makeing any difference but rather using “ charity “ as a tax dodge. Prior to his disgrace Andrew was still working in a royal capacity and with many charities.

[@Happinc]

Hilarious 😆 “weird collection of social derelicts “🥴🤣🤣

[@thamuthafiga4581]

Unfortunately I have fractured my hip, greater trochanter and my pelvis and I honestly don’t know how I could bare the months of healing that is required as it is bed rest and pain relief and listening to your beautiful dulcet voice. Thank you so very, much

[@FishyFun57]

Blessings for your recovery! I’ve had several hip surgeries and spent months in hospital. My greater trochanter is arthritic now. Opposite hip has a replacement. I dislocated 3 times in 11 weeks. I was 4 months in hospital.

[@JamieWiseacre]

You’d be surprised at how fluid gay men can be.

[@junkjournalsvideos1649]

I'm always sorry when an episode ends.

[@gabbyb4493]

Makes you wonder if Harry is living the same life as the Duke!

[@cheeredenise]

Weirdly, that would surprise me if Harry came out as gay. I never could imagine that in any context.

[@BeBe76182]

…can you believe how close England came to having this man their King?!

[@Anna_Key]

He actually was! Luckily the Government stepped in and suggested/encouraged him to abdicate!

[@bridgetmclaughlin6198]

He was King for a short while but never crowned.

[@cassandratq9301]

Terrifying

[@LaurenLeeson83]

The Seinfeld clip made me laugh out loud. 😂 You have great comedic timing. So enjoy your channel!

[@magsstewart5488]

Ha! Perfect Elaine insert! ROFL! 😂

[@AuntClara0911]

It just keeps 🤯my mind how very much alike this pair & Harkles are, its crazy. Once again Cheere Denise Brilliant job!

[@sabsmcdabs7139]

Holy moly these two. Speechless. What a nasty state of affairs. Literally. They just don't care about anything or anyone. Def not being of service. I wonder if the Palace knew of his bi/homosexual tendencies and so supported the whole Wallace thing and used that as an excuse to get him off the throne. I see so many red flags with him (more from him attracting scandal vs orientation) so they knew he couldn't be anywhere near the throne. The late Queen did everything she could to reduce the chaos like this but it seems she was the exception. Look at Margaret, Andrew, Harry, and Charles. Only Edward, Anne and William seem stable, although Charles is settled now. Great retelling. This book just gives and gives

[@bluerose_11]

My take on W and younger man is different. She still felt the same as she did when she was twenty younger and he, was just her type , a young David full of energy, bi-sexual, interesting and funny. David, no longer that man, would have been deeply wounded by this alone. Add to that the complications and pain of dealing with his emotional feelings and jealousies. This would have suited the sadistic Wallace just fine.

[@janescott4574]

I could put the sound to mute and still enjoy every second of your vlogs, your expressions are priceless!! (Not that I ever would!)

[@user-vj8it1qk5w]

Said it before! No-one does an eyeroll better! XO from NZ

[@radhikam2401]

May this book never end. So juicy. I love it. A guilty pleasure after Church. 😂

[@Heliliftrosemont]

You are right on with the high society/low society antics being the same. Neither know or care about consequences.

[@THATBossCricket]

“How he didn’t throw himself off the deck . . . “. RAOTFLMBO!!!😂🎉🤣🙃

[@tara44789]

Good point. Having children changes most people. Some, not all that never have children miss out on the maturation of loving someone more than yourself. There's a deepening that happens for most when becoming a parent. Wallace and Simpson reminds me of this. Nothing to break the narcissism that goes with youth. Children change that.

[@fabulousnewt770]

I must respectfully disagree that having children is the only thing that changes you. Many of my friends with children have a variable saying that 'when you have kids you understand these things' and I think, 'if you didn't understand these things before you had kids maybe you shouldnt have had any'. Of course having kids changes you but not having them doesn't mean you put yourself first. In fact you are more likely to invest outside the family because you have more time. Having kids only makes you love your own kids more than yourself. In a lit of cases not having them simply means you find other things to love more. It's usually the childless daughter who takes on the role of carer for the elderly patents. It's not cut and dry. I know a lot of mothers who indulge in the cult of motherhood, it's all they talk about, and are definately the centre of their own universe.

[@tara44789]

I said Some, not All. Nor did I ever say the Only thing that changes you.

[@hurricaneheide]

😮 the salacious details! Honestly, I am loving this chapter. 🍿

[@kimroy55]

Good morning. I'm all caught up on this book, just watched from the beginning. I appreciate your sense of humor and facial expressions. I am looking forward to your next review. 😊

[@BustedFlush7096]

And Cheere has her head on straight and can see right thru these two.

[@bearessentials4383]

If Wallis had had social media she would make MM look dull 😂

[@THATBossCricket]

“. . . It’s the people in the Middle who are TRYING to keep it together. But the people at the Top and the People at the Bottom - Sometimes they are functioning on the Same Wave Length.” So true. And SHOCKING!

[@cassandratq9301]

I think this may be not providing enough credit to the people on the bottom.

[@jenslims]

I’m so glad it was you reading this chapter 😂 Such gross people but you made it so entertaining!

[@Happinc]

His ideas of what constitutes working hard 😓 equates perfectly with the 18 hours of charity work performed by hapless & the wife! The parallels are extraordinary…

[@yoclark2723]

I remember watching an interview with the duke and Wallis back in the 70s. I could feel her disdain for her husband and I was just a teenager. I remember thinking ooh, She hates him. The duke was so childish as well. She answered over him all the time as he was stammering the whole way through.

[@michelejashinsky8409]

I saw and interview of them once and the Duke-sat in a chair with his legs splayed apart he looked hideous in his fancy suit and beautiful decor all around him but so foolish he didn’t know how to sit properly for a televised interview!

[@THATBossCricket]

@@michelejashinsky8409I saw that same interview! Yes, the way he sat like that was strange and awkward - Not dignified or how you would expect a member of the Royal Family to conduct himself. It was surprising and rather disappointing.

[@aliciab4236]

This chapter surprised me more than most. It highlights the distinction between people's public, private, and secret selves. A good reminder not to blindly believe everything we see.

[@cassandratq9301]

NEVER believe only the visible.

[@Fayebythelight]

Excellent as always young lady. Keep up the good work you deserve to have far more followers.

[@cheeredenise]

Thank you so much!

[@LindaWagner-fi2py]

Her and Megnuts are so very much alike, really enjoy the reading Sunday before church

[@DebbiSmithDC]

Oh my heart-what a start….🤣😂🤭Bring it on.

[@bernardcassidy6497]

Their lives were so aimless , he always wanted a position or job of some sort , well what was stopping him from getting his own job ? The truth is he was lazy , which is also why he ran away from the responsibility of Kingship, two despicable and reprehensible Grifters, sordid, perverted , dirty , no limits , no shame , perfectly matched in Hell .

[@thepunpolice11]

It was normal for aristocrats and the wealthy to leave child rearing to nannies. QEII's father had the same childhood as David.

[@bdu2sac]

As for "David," thank God he abdicated because he would have toppled the Crown.

[@cassandratq9301]

The Crown? The whole country!

[@gabbyb4493]

Wallace was the Duke’s mother figure.

[@lornaackerman7022]

I’ve been looking forward to your take on this chapter!

[@bridgetmclaughlin6198]

I read this chapter twice because I had to hear “a weird collection of social derelicts” and “it was like going to bed with a very old sailor” again. 😂. I was sore laughing.

[@saramurphy345]

You got to remember: they WERE ALL TRASHED

[@ashleycormier5714]

The tea in this chapter was scalding!!!!! 🫖

[@cheeredenise]

Wait till the chapter entitled “Relationships”! It is CRAAAAAZY!!!!!!!!

[@magsstewart5488]

….a very old soldier. 👀 🤣

[@lizpongratz9466]

You have a wonderful laugh!

[@milliemosehla6678]

Hi. This was so much fun..You did great and had me giggling a few times the way you refused to read the spicy parts The clip ended me😂 Yes, i also felt very sorry for David. We can't understand it but he seems to love her. She humiliated him in front of all their society, so cruel. I think she was with him to be queen so she's punishing him. Thank you and have a great evening

[@TheBeautifulWindsofAragon]

I’ve often thought the same thing;it’s the middle class that makes the wheels go around and is the preserve of sanity in the society.

[@AlEdJedLee]

I heard that middle-class morality came about because those of us in the middle gave something to lose, and not enough to ensure that we could replace it if lost. The upper class, OTOH, has the funds to fix any problem. The lower class has nothing to lose.

[@marylyn3081]

Pathetic. Salacious, and absolutely riveting. This is the best book you've done. I laughed, and was appalled at the same time. Self Circumcision? An old sailor! Just so much...

[@meganpodesta9197]

I think the Duke fell for her for the same reason as the Woolworth's heir. 😮

[@LisainNewJersey]

The clothes, the booze, the sex, the parties could never fill the void in their souls. I keep thinking of the biblical image of whited sepulchers. Their story should be a cautionary tale for all of us.

[@elle28390]

Last thing. I feel like having an outrageous homosexual as part of your menagerie is like having one of those foofy dogs for the wealthy. I wouldn’t want anyone I cared about to be out on parade this way. Like a circus act.

[@cheeredenise]

I agree!

[@meganpodesta9197]

Wow! A cardinal too! Oh my goodness 😅

[@meganpodesta9197]

Well done! What a cool surprise! ❤

[@NiniM8154]

There were rumors that Wallis was a hermaphrodite, which would be an interesting twist to all this.

[@aliciaeakins2578]

I'll be 55 next month. I am no prude, and know that people can live all sorts of lives and make choices that don't align with mine. But this episode prompted me to take a moment to be grateful for everything I have: a wonderful husband, two accomplished, kind, lovely kids, a career that I enjoy, and the respect of those around me. I simply cannot imagine still being where I was at 20. Horrifying.

[@MrsGator7]

I bet TOW thought she’d be Queen too.

[@CornbreadOracle]

Wallis and David seem like a bossy, mean big sister and her spoiled little brother who adores her but is afraid of her too

[@creativewriter3887]

You mean like Lucy and Linus with Rerun thrown in every few strips? lol

[@marileearsenault4749]

Good for you getting through this chapter. Horrible couple, couldn’t stand to be in their company for ten minutes. Thank you for doing this. Can’t wait for the next one ❤️

[@meganpodesta9197]

Well, I thought the dangerous affair with his cousin had made his preferences clear? 😂😅

[@marciagoodall8318]

So glad you won’t be reviewing The Kings Story, I think the reason it sat on the bestseller list for so long is the same as for Spare; people buy and read simply because it is supposed to be a personal Royal story ……. ‘my truth’ appears to be a phrase to cover a narrative that is self-deceit

[@meganpodesta9197]

You are spot on about the higher classes, more of the lower class try to keep it together. Just my opinion. 😅

[@cheeredenise]

Totally agree!

[@MegPaterson2]

I am loving this book so much, you always choose the best books Cheere, thank you 🥰

[@cheeredenise]

You're so welcome! I always look forward to your comments! ❤️

[@alisonvanschoor730]

Half way through, and can't wait to see whether the scandals of Wallis' sexuality are going to be discussed?

[@michelejashinsky8409]

And do they share MA???? 🤮

[@lynette4392]

Thank you! I love listening to your book reviews!

[@MegPaterson2]

It seriously creeps me out how identical David and Wallis are to Harry and Meghan. There have been rumours for years about Harry’s sexuality, if he could be bi or at the very least have bi sexual tendencies (I’m not 100% if I believe it, plus, it is rumours and gossip after all which I don’t like to buy into, however, there have been a few men come forward and have told strange stories about what Harry has done to them, which, I don’t think someone would publicly say without truth behind it because we all know Harry loves to sue people and Harry hasn’t sued any of these men 🤔) Plus, the strange extra close relationship Meghan has with Marcus, who is rumoured to be gay just like Wallis’s little play thing. Every move David and Wallis have made in this biography, Harry and Meghan have virtually made in their lives too, even down to Wallis having a hysterectomy and Meghan rumoured to have had one prior to meeting Harry (again, I’m not going to 100% believe that until it is confirmed to be true, however, Meghan has never denied those rumours either which isn’t like her to not deny something) Even Wallis’s grotesque habit of gluttony when it comes to clothes, that’s Meghan all over and the way Wallis now doesn’t refer to David as the Duke like she use to insist on, Meghan recently referred to Harry as “This one”. I guess the old saying “History repeating itself” exists for a reason, because history is most definitely repeating itself between David, Wallis, Harry and Meghan, it is creepy!! 😬

[@THATBossCricket]

There are pictures out there of Harry with other men. Definitely gay.

[@amandam43793]

This is a crazy interesting book with very rare history to tell! Thank you for reviewing this, there are certainly interesting parallels. Love that you're doing a book about Diana next. Will you please use Lady Cs Diana book, I feel she has inside knowledge unlike other journalists as she lives in that world and hears all the insider info. I just finished reading her book on H&M and Lady C, I love the way she writes, it's very intelligent and insightful and just the way she has with words is great!

[@meganpodesta9197]

I think the boys are toys,she loved the German Herman, who was not in love with her. Herman probably convinced her to pursue her affair with the duke to influence the king. But that backfired and now she needs to entertain the Duke and others. 😅

[@meganpodesta9197]

And she needs to entertain herself most of all.😅

[@heianwoman]

“Everyone is going to be like oh we should do that one next. No we shouldn’t. No we shouldn’t.” You are wonderful. I’m laughing and laughing. Do you think Meghan realizes she will never be queen?

[@travelgal7074]

Good morning, I enjoy your videos so much. I'm a long time subscriber but I think this is my first comment. My day is made when I see notifications for your videos. This is my first time feeling sorry for David although I was under the impression that Bertie was abused by the nanny while David was her favorite. No idea why he was so obsessed with Wallis.

[@jomarsh6449]

I ALMOST wrote the same comment!! I had always heard that Berry was the scapegoat of the nursery and was ill treated to a horrid degree.

[@starlightone6948]

The story sounds like PH and his Nutmeg.😂😅❤️🇨🇦

[@cheeredenise]

This is where it stopped sounding like them to me unless you know something I don’t 🤣🤣🤣

[@someamericanfanofQE2]

"Slice it thinly"?? 😳 What in the world?!?

[@Magsfab89]

Denise, thanks for this priceless reading. I can’t help finding a lot of similarities between D & W and H&M. There have been rumours that H is bi and funny how M has a guy close friend in Marcus Andersen! The only exception is some do say Wallace had charm and a great hostess at least when she was a mistress to D but Markel can’t even manage that.

[@elineman7]

When you started this book, I must admit I didn’t know a lot about this couple, so I went and watched an interview that they did later in their marriage and I can’t bond the two different stories; the way they seemed to think of themselves and their own legacy with who they really are in this book! It’s as if they were re-writing their past together and still saw themselves as a ‘love’ for the ages. It’s perplexing.

[@steveinlv4444]

Jimmy Donohue was also the first cousin to Barbara Hutton… And the actress Dina Merrill, who strangely grew up at Mar-a-Lago

[@andrearoyd2942]

Chat room, forums, the internet were not about in the time of Edward - so it's not contemporary information. Although the ''common'' (parkland) pick up is well known. Excellent as always.

[@Midgiemoon]

Wow! You have outdone yourself with this read!

[@esterbengoa6077]

According to Wendy Berry, Prince Andrew liked to put his "ornaments" out as a "joke". But, someone I knew used to fill a wine glass with one of his "bubbles" as a party trick.

[@cheeredenise]

😬

[@krishnavyas313]

​@@cheeredenise you should rivew Windy Berry's the house keepers dairy. Windy Berry was house keepers of charles and Diana from 1985-1992.

[@esterbengoa6077]

@krishnavyas313 The book is out of print, and the price has skyrocketed. Another youtuber I follow is reviewing the book as she had a copy at home.

[@GeologyOnTheMove]

"drenched with condoms and dead rats" - HILARIOUS!!!

[@paulacostescu1041]

Thank you

[@cassandratq9301]

The Duke can't leave Wallace - he gave away a kingdom for her! Too much humiliation.

[@greerstirling9665]

I freakin love this chapter, I'm dying laughing

[@kristyfox2729]

Quite the chapter 😂. Obviously when you are wealthy with too much time on your hands you can fall into some weird stuff. I guess that is why we have jobs.😂. Thanks for another interesting read.❤

[@retrogradepink]

oh man, i have to feel sorry for the Duke. maybe if he'd had some proper therapy to deal with his childhood issues and lived at a time when being gay was totally fine, even for a future king, he could have had a much better life.

[@saramurphy345]

There is also alot of knowledge on the internet!

[@cheeredenise]

Oh yeah, but you have to smart about it. Gay chat rooms seem like a weird place to go to pad your respectable and well researched book with further details.

[@bdu2sac]

I read the Mathew Perry book when it was released. I cried,it's very sad and depressing and when I finished I thought he is not long for this world because I thought I had understood that he had lung cancer. Then he died of drugs. I cried again because he was one of my favorites. Looking forward to your take.

[@haleyjordan9007]

Funny how history repeats itself

[@tammybreeden8903]

Their dad the king was very mean as a father, and the mother cold. But the nanny was mean to Bertie, his brother .

[@tammybreeden8903]

Very good point.

[@puffpiece1375]

I believe harry and Edward share the same proclivities

[@dt3802]

Just watched a documentary on David. Many photos and videos of him with Hitler. He couldn't have looked more happy with his reception.

[@annettelowrey5278]

So happy you posted another chapter. Really enjoying this book!

[@sarahjensen8095]

Everything about this book shocked me. Love your analysis