1936 Pierce arrow seven passengers sedan, this is LUXURY 

Today one what it’s like, getting into white whale Unicorn territory with this one. 1936 Pierce arrow seven passenger sedan. This episode is packed with Pierce arrow history. Loads of specs enjoy this episode sorry it’s a little late
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[@DavidHall-ge6nn]

There's a Kind of Hush. Herman's Hermits.

[@What.its.like.]

Congratulations you got it and you’re the first one to do so =) Be sure to tune in tomorrow 430 hopefully 430 Eastern standard time to catch the 1955 Hudson cross country rambler wagon what a mouthful lol

[@allenwayne2033]

Oh duh! I shoulda known that! Good job!

[@davidball4706]

I saw the video too late. I have the record

[@janosistvan5226]

😎

[@garryferrington811]

"There's a kind of hush All over the world" Etc. Memories...

[@SpockvsMcCoy]

"In August 1937, Pierce-Arrow announced plans to raise $10.7 million through a stock sale to produce 25,000 medium-priced cars, plus 4,800 trailers, and 1,200 luxury models" [Encyclopedia of American Cars 1930-1980]. This plan fell through and Pierce-Arrow declared bankruptcy in December 1937 and was liquidated in 1938. This was bad timing because the Department of War (now DOD) spread around lucrative defense contracts in 1939 in anticipation of World War II.

[@What.its.like.]

Thank you so much for all of that added information I should’ve included something along those lines if only they could’ve made it until the war they might’ve been able to merge with Packard things could’ve been totally different

[@SpockvsMcCoy]

@@What.its.like. In reality Packard had enough spare capacity at their single Detroit factory. More likely a merger with Hudson and Nash, instead.

[@richruksenas5992]

@@SpockvsMcCoy Nope.

[@here_we_go_again2571]

@ Appleman 1964 Do you know who bought the Pierce Arrow plant and dies? Was anything put in the old factory during WW2?

[@SpockvsMcCoy]

@@here_we_go_again2571 The factory equipment used to make Pierce-Arrow V12 engines was bought by Seagrave Fire Apparatus, which used it to manufacture motors for fire engines. The remaining parts and tooling at the factory were scrapped for the war effort in 1942. (That is all that I know.)

[@pyrexmaniac]

Im a Buffalo native and a big PA fan. The main Pierce-Arrow plant on Elmwood Ave and the PA administration building still exists as high-end apartments and light industrial space. The flagship Pierce-Arrow showroom is maintained in it's art-deco splendor on Main St and Jewett Parkway, two blocks east of Frank Lloyd Wright's Darwin D. Martin complex. The Pierce-Arrow museum is located downtown and houses a full-size Frank Lloyd Wright gas station once proposed for Tydol gasoline. The museum isn't far from many other attractions like CanalSide and Larkinville, Louis Sullivan's masterpiece early skyscraper; the Guarantee building, and Buffalo City Hall, a massive 39 story art-deco masterpiece with it's polychrome terra cotta exterior and breathtaking viees of Buffalo's waterfront and Lake Erie and Canada just beyond. With so many historic places, It's worth the trip to Buffalo....and to Niagara Falls, a mere 20 minutes away by car.

[@What.its.like.]

Awesome thank you so much for sharing all that insight and information with us =)

[@elosogonzalez8739]

Pierce Arrow was one of the finest automobiles. Years ago, I was in Las Vegas and visited the Car Museum at the Imperial Pallace. There was a 4 door Sedan that I have never seen before. It was painted à Purple and Lavender with matching interior. The most unique part was a triangular shaped Split window slightly above the rear window. Magnificently restored. One glorious automobile for sure.

[@basilhatte]

Great tour of a truly supurb vehicle. Peak American automobile; only topped by Duesenburg. Those molded fender-mounted headlights were a patented feature of PA's from 1914. I've only ever seen one: a Silver Arrow, in "Barn-Find" condition, on a trailer going the other way... an almost surreal carspotting moment. Felt like I'd just seen Elvis.

[@What.its.like.]

Seeing a silver arrow would be a highlight of my month those cars are very rarely seen I don’t think I’ve ever seen one in person, that to me resembles a silver ghost not what Rolls-Royce made, rolls-Royce still looked old at this point, And to be fair most English cars even looked old but a 50 MG was still making boxy cars in the early 50s

[@basilhatte]

@@What.its.like. Quite so. The original Silver Ghost was mos; def' a benchmark car, but it was only after the war that they attained their "top of the heap" status. The snark on the Silver Cloud ('55-'64) is that it was the best car of 1941. Rolllers were known as a "triumph of engineering over design". Of the 3 P's, Rolls was competive with Packard, in both design and quality; the other 2 were actually superior. Not to mention Marmon and of course, Duesenburg; there was a time when Detroit really did build "World Cars".

[@derrickrees8895]

Packards every time ! The Packard 12 was the original 'Torque Monster' , and it was also reliable , straightforward and super smooth - It deserved its nic name 'The Boss of the Road ' Interestingly , rival Peerless designed a SIXTEEN cylinder in 1931 , just before they got out of the car business . One was built , a beautiful black sedan , which still exists today. Only Cadillac , Marmon and Peerless built 16 cylinder engines for road going cars in the classic years.

[@What.its.like.]

Awesome information thank you so much for sharing all of that I’m right there with you I’m a Packard guy through and through I’ve never had one I would love to I got the invitation to drive one this year so hopefully that all goes through I can’t wait. It’s one of the highlights of the year is the finally get to drive one of my dream cars 1937 Packard =) Glad you dig this episode

[@mikescott5624]

That's a bit myopic. No one made better straight eights and V-12s than Pierce-Arrow. The Pierce 385-ci straight eight was used without change other than twin-ignition mandatory in emergency equipment through 1958 by Seagraves fire apparatus, Pierce's 462-ci was enlarged to 530-ci, given twin ignition, and used in Seagraves fire trucks through 1 9 7 0. Packard's chassis was a trace more modern, but Packard and Pierce were equals. Packard was not "better." Packard owned up to 42% of the fine car market (above $2,000 base FOB) through 1936 because of their crisp styling as well as overall refinement. And if you want to split hairs, the big Lincoln Ks of the '30s, while not being as powerful as Packard and Pierce V-12s, had the finest craftsmanship of any of the big luxe cars from either side of the Atlantic or Channel. Know the cars, not the advertising and what you glean from dated buff coffee table books. Study the cars up close, underneath, read the shop manuals, talk to those who've owned, worked on b o t h.

[@derrickrees8895]

Thanks Mike@@mikescott5624- always interesting to see different opinions , and some of those specs on Fire Trucks were new to me . ( I'm a Car Guy ). Only straight eight I ever personally encountered in a working Fire Truck (at a Fire Site ) , was many many years ago . It was an impressive looking and very smooth running black and silver Rolls Royce , powering some kind of auxiliary equipment - the revs would occasionally change . I think the Fire Truck was made by 'Dennis' . Hood sides were open , giving a good view to a curious kid. And ,yes , I do look at and enjoy vintage advertising whenever I can . Technical specs are interesting and essential to tell us HOW things were built . To understand WHY is another matter . To me , the old adverts provide some clues .They give fascinating and colorful insights into very different Times - a world gone by . Some of the content is nonsense of course , but some is Gold .

[@jaswmclark]

That engine, with modifications including dual ignition, was used by the Seagrave fire engines well into the 1950,s. Many ot these are still in service.

[@What.its.like.]

After looking at pictures of what should’ve been in there versus what was in there it did not look original to me but I didn’t say anything in the video thank you so much for pointing that out, this car sold at Classic auto mall I can’t find the listing I don’t think that they were asking a fortune for this car because there’s a lot of things that aren’t 100% with it like a side mounts should’ve had cases. It looked a bit naked without the cases

[@johanvangelderen6715]

@@What.its.like. Jay, he is saying that the Pierce Arrow engine, with modifications was used in the fire trucks. So the car has the correct engine.

[@lancewalker1999]

Actually James it was until 1970!

[@automatedelectronics6062]

What is unusual for the era, this car has a single piece windshield when most cars had a split windshield. I seem to remember that in Tom Braden's book "Eight Is Enough". the family car was a Pierce Arrow and the whole family could fit in it. Often cars of this era had dips in the middle of the front bumpers because they could still be hand crank started. You'll probably find that the badge at the base of the grille is covering the crank hole. Rolls Royce was underpowered compared to the other 2 cars, but it is cool and people could tell from a distance that they were looking at a Rolls Royce. It's a toss-up for me in choosing only one of the 3 cars. But with American enginuity pull the six from the RR and replace it with the Packard V12.

[@billolsen4360]

@@Jack_Russell_Brown "The Yellow Rolls Royce" was a good movie, especially with Ingrid Bergman looking fine at age 49

[@What.its.like.]

You missed out on the deal of a lifetime those things are going for a really big money now those rolls Royces I just don’t understand it they aren’t that great in my opinion Packard pierce arrow is far better quality everything feels so cheap it’s gonna break in your hand when you touch it Bentley is kind of sort of the same way it’s just very fragile. It doesn’t have the same quality feel as a Packard or a pierce arrow when you touch anything in those cars in the Packard or pierce arrow it feels solid. I opened up a door to a 1933 Bentley and it just didn’t feel quality... i’m probably going to get a whole Lot of hate for that but maybe one day I can compare

[@automatedelectronics6062]

@@What.its.like. Bentleys started out as a performance and sporting and racing car, kinda the Pontiac GTO of the day. After merging with RR they were turned into a RR clone. In our lifetimes, they sought to differentiate Bentley from RR and bring the brand back to it's original performance glory. Although with all the physical characteristics in common, except the grille, they created the Bentley Turbo R. Just think about it. A 6,000 pound car that went 0-60 in 5 seconds! Heck, the average U.S. full-size car was lucky to do that in 10 seconds! Cadillac, which used to be the standard of the world, couldn't even get out of it's own way. As I stated, you could tell that you were looking at a RR, from even a glance. In modern times, when RR and Bentley split, Bentley, under VW ownership, retained the traditional Crewe plant and stuck with the same old cars for awhile. Gradually, they regained their performance image and could dish it out. RR, taken over by BMW, had to start from scratch. They did borrow from Bentley for awhile but then came out with all-new cars from the ground up. One look and you know you are in the presence of the top luxury car in the world. It's true that Packard was once viewed as equal to RR, but being technologically superior. Cadillac was once viewed as the standard of the world and the luxury brand all other brands based their upper level cars on. Packard switched it's sights to competing with Cadillac, but was a little too late in doing so. Rolls-Royce took over as the standard of the world and created a brand familiarity look, eventhough racing ahead in technology but retaining the build quality too. Rolls-Royce cars have always been sought after, retaining the hand-built, coach-built exclusivity. In recent times, the TV show NOS4A2, featuring a 1938 Rolls-Royce Wraith, may have re-ignited interest in vintage RR's.

[@JodyOwen-we6oo]

If a man could hand crank that 12 cylinder I sure wouldn’t want to meet him mad in a dark alley.

[@billolsen4360]

@@JodyOwen-we6oo That's why chauffeurs for the rich were generally athletes, young & fit, who'd also been to mechanics' school. They had to be able to crank V12s and V16s, fight off kidnappers (which were a real problem in the 1930s), etc. because neither J.P. Morgan nor Louis B. Mayer aren't gonna crank start their own limo.

[@seed_drill7135]

After Pierce Arrow went under their V-12 wound up in Seagrave Fire Engines through the early 70's.

[@What.its.like.]

Thank you so much for adding that information =)

[@user-en9zo2ol4z]

The headlights are so beautifully incorporated into the mudguards. (Fenders are guitars in Australia) The overall treatment of the vehicle is remarkable in its detailing and design, which clearly has not a single line existing by chance. Purposeful design is always engaging and is always evident in the finest integrated vehicles, irrespective of manufacturer. It is such a shame that the centre hub of the steering wheel is missing. The design would have been notable, I'm sure.

[@billolsen4360]

Headlights on top of the fenders were a Pierce Arrow trademark from the 1910's on.

[@carywest9256]

Shouldn't your terminology mean dustguards, seeing how dry the land Down Under is? By the way, Fender is a family name and also is a bodypart to an automobile before it became a musical instrument. Tu savvy? Greetings from Texas.

[@StevenHoman]

@@carywest9256 when an area twice the size of Texas isn't on fire, we have the vast majority of the place completely under water. We never fuck around in Australia. Roasting or flooding seem to be the default settings. Sometimes it can get dusty, which is usually accompanied by mice plagues. Then when you're driving at night, it looks like a very strong wind is blowing leaves across the road. Except there is no wind, it is just mice scurrying across the road. We used to get rabbit plagues the same way, until they developed a biological agent which fucked with their breeding cycle. So that is now gone. A real shame in some ways because hobos would live off their meat and also sell them door to door. For around 20 cents each. 2 decent sized rabbits were a great meal for a family, as I recall.

[@marvwatkins7029]

So glad and it's great that the museum let you go and touch and being that car.

[@What.its.like.]

Classic auto Mall isn’t a museum all of those cars are for sale and they are great if you’re ever in the area be sure to go out there definitely worth spending a day there =)

[@danielcheatham3400]

Absolutely gorgeous car. Yep. That was what rich people rode in. Loved that hood ornament. No idea about name that tune

[@What.its.like.]

That car was absolutely gorgeous I was going to add bucket list thing would be camping in style just like that but after finding out how rare the travel lodge trailers are I have no idea if that would ever even be a possibility… they go for ridiculous money

[@robertknapp7612]

First group: Packard. Second group: Pierce Arrow (no question, but I think the last time I saw a Silver Arrow sell, it was north of $1,00,000).

[@What.its.like.]

Great choices yeah the silver arrows are really costly

[@elderherrera2238]

Thanks keep on with the obscure auto history. Yikes. Man. I love the ads. Their bicycles are also legendary.

[@What.its.like.]

Glad you dig this episode, promised more 30s cars this year =) I honestly don’t know what generation I like better 50 fins or 30 fenders

[@jon-p]

Too bad that the Archer's bow is broken in half. Must be near impossible to find a replacement.

[@What.its.like.]

I saw that too I wasn’t 100% sure if it was broke or it was supposed to be like that finding a replacement would be really hard plus expensive because that is a iconic Moto meter, ornament

[@stephenholland5930]

I guess a skilled craftsman could repair it.

[@danielulz1640]

Magnificent! Might as well have the Pierce sedan for everyday, and the Silver Arrow coupe just for fun.

[@What.its.like.]

That’s silver arrow coupe though man that’s one of the most gorgeous cars ever made =)

[@keith3970]

Thanks for telling us what the purpose of the rear seat clock was! Ha.Jay,you have a great channel, thanks for everything. AND...I'll take both Packards.

[@What.its.like.]

Thank you so much for digging this channel I’m with you it would be really hard though to choose between the areo coupe Packard and the silver arrow Pierce arrow they’re both gorgeous cars =)

[@1aikane]

Just shows all were not suffering during the Great Depression. Amazing quality. Beautiful works of auto art.

[@What.its.like.]

Agreed

[@carywest9256]

All the big sedans of that era, whatever make always make me think of gangsters or pimpmobile. And l'm not trying to be negative or downgrade these cars. I reckon it is the history of that era that is seared into people's brains. That's all l have to say about that, greetings from Texas y'all!

[@tigre7739]

It is a real stunner! 🤩 Love that interior, and the incredible amount of space in it!! I would definitely rather have this one over the other two, and the Silver Arrow! 😎

[@What.its.like.]

Awesome choices =) Glad you dig this episode

[@manuelicos08]

What a Beautiful car Jay, greetings from Allende NL Mexico

[@What.its.like.]

That car was awesome it was really hard to get information with that’s why it’s a bit late.

[@STEVENSCOTTFERGUSON]

Pierce Arrow and Peerless. Thanks for another cool video. I love that you give background information on the manufacturers.

[@What.its.like.]

Great choices glad you dig this episode, I found a lot of that information out myself I didn’t know Pierce arrow built bicycles so I thought it was cool information to share I can’t be the only person I didn’t know that and I felt like it would be a disservice night to share that with everybody especially anybody that’s interested in maybe looking into getting anything pierced arrow maybe they can’t afford a car but maybe they can afford a bicycle or a birdcage.. have to start somewhere

[@christianmccollum1028]

Incredible. So glad I found your channel. Keep up the fantastic work!

[@What.its.like.]

Welcome to the channel =) loads of cool content, glad you dig

[@ericbrammer2245]

Nice that you took the time to 'Pierce' this together! Great Cars! And, yes, the extra rear lights are '"turn Indicators', but, Not, "blinkers", yet. ....

[@What.its.like.]

Haha nice pun =) we love the orphan cars and cars that don’t get talked about on this channel

[@HarborLockRoad]

My uncle , when he was younger, back in the 40s found a pierce arrow available for a good price for such a luxury car, but he needed to borrow the money from his stepfather, my grandpa, who refused. It was only a couple hundred bucks or so, but, that was a lot of money back then, and things were still tight because of the depression. He didnt get the car, and i dont think he ever forgave gramps either .

[@What.its.like.]

Crazy story thank you so much for sharing that, i’m not sure what this one went for but I don’t think it was crazy money.

[@here_we_go_again2571]

Thank you for sharing.

[@What.its.like.]

Thank you so much for watching =) glad you dig this episode

[@leatherjock2001]

The Pierce Arrow headlights as an integral part of the fender was a feature for many years.

[@billolsen4360]

You could always tell it was a Pierce with those headlamps, even way back in 1914.

[@What.its.like.]

It was an option for many years and then it became standard feature that became the Pierce arrow trademark those headlights and fenders

[@kensherwood4866]

Love your videos and all the details, usually of cars we never saw here in the UK. Been a fan of Pierce Arrow and the other luxury marques from the US for years so it was a delight to see you cover one. Beautifully built quality at every point. Thanks Jay toodaloo!

[@What.its.like.]

Awesome thank you so much for the positive vibes, glad you dig this channel

[@PeBoVision]

So glad this won your poll. One of the most beautiful cars ever featured,

[@billolsen4360]

Two years ago, was watching The Godfather with a niece (21yo) who had never seen it before. At the parking lot scene during Connie's wedding, she said "Those cars are so pretty." Never quite looked at cars from the 30's and 40's that way until then.

[@What.its.like.]

All the vehicles polled will eventually be shown on the channel that was all contacted already shot it’s in the pipeline to speak I’m sitting on a mountain of content now, and thought it would be cool to let you guys in on some of the upcoming episodes and let you vote on what you would like to see that day we’re gonna start doing it on Mondays I believe going to vote for what you would like to see on Monday I tried to post five videos a week sometimes it’s more than that sometimes it’s a little less than that =)

[@THROTTLEPOWER]

Beautiful '36 😍

[@What.its.like.]

This car was dropdead gorgeous it’s a pity pierce arrow couldn’t stay alive until World War II maybe them and Packard could’ve merged together and things could’ve been really different

[@THROTTLEPOWER]

@@What.its.like. So very true.

[@Donald_Shaw]

Thanks for showing us around this beautiful Pierce Arrow, Jay. Rolls Royce is always my go-to motor coach.

[@What.its.like.]

I have to feature some rolls Royce and some bentlys eventually =) great choice

[@keithstudly6071]

Cars like the Pierce Arrow were normally bought as a chassis and the body was added at a custom coach builder. I think it was worth remarking that the windshield glass was a one piece design. That was unusual at the time.

[@ericm8732]

Jay, "What it's like", is a really good and interesting thing.!! I've been very impressed with what you are doing.!! You are doing something unusual and unique on KZbin.!! Keep on son, you have got this.! I just watched the truck video last night and it was too good.! Growing up, my neighbors and friends Dad owned and ran a full service garage and they are still in business. Four generations. The shops service truck and the Dad's daily driver was an old blue Studebaker with a 327 Chevrolet engine. The body and interior were like new.!! He still has that same truck today parked in a garage at home.!! Got to ride in it many times back in the early 1970's and into the early 1980's.!! It was one of the later models. IT was the best looking body style of all model year Studebakers ever built.!! THANKS for the happy memories and all the sacrifices you have to make to bring us these machinery MARVELS.!!! I think you really need a new outro instead of the toodle loo thing though..! I cringe when I know it's coming.!!!!!🙄😳🤭🤢🤢🤢

[@What.its.like.]

Thank you welcome to the community glad you dig the channel =) thank you so much for the positive vibes

[@agostinodibella9939]

Wow Jay, I enjoyed all the historical info at the beginning of the video. That car is a real work of art right down to the archer hood ornament.

[@What.its.like.]

Thank you so much glad you enjoyed this episode, I loving giving backgrounds on cars that are being forgotten.. hopefully this channel will help keep these cars relevant

[@willgeary6086]

It's a crying shame they never made it out of the depression but it's probably a blessing in disguise, going out in prestige and style then devolving into something it's not.

[@What.its.like.]

It would’ve been really cool if they partnered up with Packard and brought back peerless and then they could’ve been the three Ps under one moniker and made exquisite cars

[@charleshuguley9323]

Gorgeous automobile. I'd definitely take it over the alternatives- if I lived in 1936.

[@What.its.like.]

Awesome =) I wish there was more lighting this car was absolutely incredible..

[@nathanjoseph4284]

0:01 DUAL headlights in the 1930s? That's crazy 😁

[@What.its.like.]

Crazy right.. =)

[@nathanjoseph4284]

@@What.its.like. Yeah, especially when dual headlights on cars were not a thing until the late 1950s =)

[@billolsen4360]

@@nathanjoseph4284 Sorry, folks, the inboard lamps next to the headlights are just parking lights.

[@What.its.like.]

Thank you for the correction, quad lights didn’t Duesenberg have them I remember seeing 30s cars with quad lights

[@ROXSTARCorvette4371]

This car is a work of art. It puts Cadillac to shame. Pierce Arrow was for the elite of society.

[@What.its.like.]

It puts them all to shame the only thing that would be equal to it would be Packard.. I haven’t been in a V 12 Packard yet.. but i’ve been in the 30s Bentley doesn’t even come close

[@ROXSTARCorvette4371]

@@What.its.like. You bought a Cadillac or Packard because you couldn't afford a Pierce Arrow

[@What.its.like.]

Very true expensive model they had cheaper models like the coupe I think it was priced around $3000 which was still a lot of money but it was more affordable than this car Which was I think it was equivalent to like 45,000 the seven passenger sedan was expensive but it wasn’t the most expensive car on offered by them the most expensive car that they offered was $250,000 equivalent

[@leightonfarms4962]

Absolutely stunning car.

[@What.its.like.]

Yeah it was =)

[@michaelreilly1310esq]

You did an outstanding job explaining the features

[@What.its.like.]

Thank you glad you dig this episode =)

[@jrkat]

Nice

[@jamesrecknor6752]

Most of these magnificent cars got driven into ground the during the 40s and 50s; expensive to maintain and lacking manufacturer's support. Dastardly things were done to some as they aged, like cutting the front off to use the engine to drive irrigation pumps, etc. It is unfortunate so few have survived. Newer cars offering automatic transmissions, power steering, air conditioning, etc didn't help the classics of the 30s either.

[@What.its.like.]

Wow that’s crazy thank you so much for sharing that story

[@SpockvsMcCoy]

My grandfather attended high school in the mid-1920s. He told me that he took a shop class that had an old Pierce Arrow. Many of those luxury cars ended up as tow trucks as they got older because the chassis was so robust and the engine had great torque. Remember that in the pre-WWII years, the lifespan of a new car was typically about 8-10 years. Collecting old cars as a hobby was not widely done until the early 1950s.

[@rogersmith7396]

Lenos Duesenberg was a converted tow truck.

[@ricardoescobar1677]

I just found your videos and I ver much enjoy it. I will be sharing it with some friends. I personally like the Pierce Arrow’s better.

[@What.its.like.]

Thank you so much this is so much more than a car channel it’s a car community. Welcome to the community. Our goal is to keep the information out there for the younger generations and anybody that is looking to get these cars what to look for when considering buying these cars. We absolutely love the orphan cars or brands that people just don’t generally don’t talk about

[@michaelcoffey7362]

Nice 🥰

[@marvwatkins7029]

Pierce on both preferences.

[@What.its.like.]

Sweet choices =)

[@jeffreykurth2703]

What a car!

[@jimburig7064]

Yup! Bicycles are here to stay.

[@christopherkraft1327]

Hey Jay, I don't know what's up but I didn't get notifications for this video!!! It's happened a lot lately, just thought that you should know!! The Pierce Arrow is such a great automobile, it's too bad that they no longer exist!!! 👍👍🙂

[@What.its.like.]

That’s weird this episode was late it’s not here at 4:30 I was still putting it together.. I aired it as a instant premiere. Information on this car was hard to gather I’m so happy that the Pierce arrow society exist because without them there’s a lot of information I wouldn’t be able to have =) Glad you dig this episode

[@FloridaClay]

Magnificent auto.

[@josephgaviota]

4:14 There was a time, when having _Bendix Brakes_ was a _real_ bragging point.

[@What.its.like.]

That’s what I read, they were like the Brembo brakes of the day

[@asteverino8569]

Lovely automobile. I just drive a car. 😂 For WYR, the 36 Pierce Arrow and the 34 Packard.

[@What.its.like.]

Great choices =)

[@genegarbis8746]

Pierce Arrow,,,hands down,,,,

[@What.its.like.]

Sweet =)

[@JackBWatkins]

Seeing the Peirce Arrow, gotta say I would take the Peirce in both cases.

[@What.its.like.]

Awesome choices

[@grantmeredith1264]

Nice job young man!

[@What.its.like.]

Thank you glad you dig this episode =)

[@richardsmith5394]

The radiator louvers allowed the flow of cold air in the Winter to be restricted to allow faster engine warm up. Highway trucks still use a vinyl Winterfront to do the same thing.

[@What.its.like.]

Awesome thank you for sharing that information =)

[@JodyOwen-we6oo]

My Dad once said people used to talk about the 3 Ps. Packard, Pierce Arrow and Perrless.

[@What.its.like.]

That’s awesome I have to find a peerless

[@davidlogansr8007]

I like the Pierce Arrow just a bit more than the Gorgeous Packard. I can’t believe I wrote that given my Love of Packard! My Dad learned to drive on his Uncle’s 1937 Packard 12

[@What.its.like.]

I’m a huge Packard fan.. I really want to feature a 12 on here this year and maybe one day have the opportunity to compare all for the 115 see the 120 the super eight the 12.

[@aaronwilliams6989]

I like the 36 model.

[@gigispen9815]

The PA is truly a classic and classy looking car. Modern for it's day and high quality that only the elite expected in such a luxury car. Kings and princes from other countries would purchase this car over Packards and RR's. I would have to go with the Pierce Arrow. I actually got to see a PA in Colorado at a show in the early 1980's. Fell in love it. It was all black. Wonder what ever happened to it.

[@What.its.like.]

Pierce arrow is truly an incredible car make that is unfortunately starting to get lost to time.. The goal of this channel is the keep all of the automotive information alive for anybody that’s interested in it we strive to do cars that are off the beaten path cars that tend to get overlooked by everybody else. Maybe one day we could take a ride in one of these that would be absolutely spectacular. In all black one sounds like that would be absolutely amazing thank you so much for sharing your memories of the pierce arrow that you saw =)

[@johnl5316]

my grandfather had one of the 30's touring cars

[@What.its.like.]

Awesome any cool memories?

[@hanschenk2708]

excellent video i have a sacaLE MODEL OF A 1933 PIERCE ARROW SILVER ARROW HAVE YOU SEEN ONE

[@What.its.like.]

Glad you dig this episode I never saw this and model form

[@johnclements6852]

Pierce-Arrow in both cases. Just tried to find the price at Classic Automall, but it must be sold. It truly seems that they were the finest American luxury cars of the day. Thanks so much for this video, as I didn't know much about them. Peerless turned into a brewer in 1933, Packard was probably right to build cheaper and Pierce-Arrow's refusal to do so was probably for the best, hoping out at the top.

[@What.its.like.]

This car was sold when I did it I just didn’t wanna miss the opportunity to do appears arrow I’m not sure when I will get another chance to do so this car was there the very first time that I ever went to classic automotive I’ve been to classic automotive five times since then. I generally go once a month maybe twice a month and I try to shoot between 15 and 25 cars in one day. I can’t find the advertisement either but I don’t think that they were asking a fortune for this car I think it was under six-figure I think they were asking around 70 I’m not 100% certain now but this car has some minor flaws as you saw in the video does not have the tire cases which kind of sort of makes up on a bed naked. Archer ornament is broke questionable whether the B12 is supposed to be in there because pictures show an aluminum head the 12 where this one didn’t have an aluminum head because it was painted black I mean they do make paint that here’s to aluminum but generally when aluminum gets hot the paint doesn’t look like that, could be wrong

[@Clarkecars]

Cadillac, created a lower priceline around the time as well, they produced LaSalle. The 1934 LaSalle is an icon of automotive art deco style.

[@willgeary6086]

Too bad Packard just didn't brand there Junior Cars something else, kinda like they did with Clipper at the very end.

[@user-en9zo2ol4z]

At 2.893 KG, that is an amazingly heavy vehicle. Almost 3 tonnes. A modern Japanese Limousine styled car is around 1.3~1.8 tonnes. Irrespective of how many cylinders it has, 8.12 or 16, it will guzzle fuel at an incredible rate, simply to move itself down the road. With 3 passengers and luggage, you would easily exceed 3 tonnes, which is a U-Haul truck, without the carrying capacity.

[@What.its.like.]

Probably gets about 6 miles to the gallon I couldn’t find anything that said what it got I’m not sure if this car had free wheeling.. but that would help people that bought these cars wasn’t worried about gas mileage and gas was cheap back then

[@user-en9zo2ol4z]

@@What.its.like. Yes Jay, the price of fuel is what makes the car cultures of nations possible. We have the third-cheapest petrol prices in the west, and we have been a V8 culture without regret forever. I haven't noticed anybody driving them for economy either, they burn the tyres and rev the engine out as much as possible.

[@seed_drill7135]

Someone brought one of those trailers to a show around here 15 years ago or so.

[@What.its.like.]

I saw a couple at the Gilmore auto museum it was just in awe they look so classy..

[@williamgregory6684]

That's an impossible choice for me to make, I want all of them!!! Great 😃 video , one of the best yet!!! That car was amazing

[@markchandler90]

Pierce on both

[@markchandler90]

Favorite vid so far.

[@What.its.like.]

@ mark chandler thank you so much I’m glad you dig this episode =) Great choices

[@What.its.like.]

@ William Gregory Great choices glad you take this episode is one of my favorite episodes as well I love whenever I’m able to go in depth on detail I was a little bit worried the bike detail might’ve been a little bit too much but after listening to it back again it needed to be there

[@tedecker3792]

One of the tail “lights” is a reflector.

[@What.its.like.]

Awesome =)

[@johnboydTx]

Packard's no question 😉👍 Another great episode 😉✌️

[@What.its.like.]

Glad you dig this episode, i’m with you without a doubt I would take a Packards I just have always had a thing for those I kind of sort of wanna try to buy either a 115 sedan or 120 sedan plastic wrap the seats take it to every car so that I can take it and share it with everybody. I mean let people get in it sit in the experience it for what it was we need to get more people in this Classic Car hobby. I honestly believe people haven’t gotten into the 30s cars because a lot of people that own 30s cars didn’t share them with anybody. So consequently no one got into them because they wasn’t allowed to be into them. Which totally sucks.

[@johnboydTx]

@@What.its.like. 1930s cars are a motoring experience?? Non detergent oil checked often.. Listen to the motor for timing and ignition adjustments.. Smell the exhaust for carburator adjustment and carbon fouling.. Double Clutching for early transmissions not shifting to 1st gear untill completely stopped.. complete lubrication of chassis and steering 2 times a year.. Fuel additives for lead and octane and a drop of top oil .. that being said 🤔 Motoring in a vintage car can be enjoyable and rewarding when arriving at your destination 😉👍. I own a 1935 Chevy 1/2 ton and a 1937 Oldsmobile ☺️ I have eyes on a 1936 Ford model Y from England I do enjoy the European autos . Take Care and good luck with your Packard dream's 🤞. But remember most vintage car enthusiast are in their 40 and 50s 🤔they had to save 30 years to achieve the dream??😉✌️

[@What.its.like.]

It sounds like you have some awesome rides deals are still out there just need to know where to look I just usually don’t have money to buy lol

[@robertcallahan4065]

Regarding the "turn signals" - No, they are not turn signals but rather the brake lights. The inner light is the tail light (red), the outer light is the brake light (amber).

[@What.its.like.]

Thank you so much for sharing that information =)

[@richroggio]

I love that car Justin, it really is roomy inside.

[@What.its.like.]

Me too this car was epic

[@jimbradley4565]

Who is Justin?

[@What.its.like.]

That’s my real name I go by J for short and it’s easier just like Jay Leno‘s real name isn’t Jay Leno, it’s James Muir

[@ColtonRMagby]

1: 1936 Pierce Arrow. 2: 1934 Pierce Arrow Silver Arrow. That car would be a LOT of fun to drive to a car show. If your vehicle has to be trucked to the car show, you're doing it wrong.

[@stephenholland5930]

Too many trailer queens. Cars are meant to be driven.

[@What.its.like.]

@stephen holland I won hundred percent agree, I made the comment one time wallet Classic Automall I told the guy said if this was my car I would drive it every day and his response was it wouldn’t be worth anything if you drive it every day they would have a whole bunch of miles on it and I just looked at him. What’s the purpose of having something if you can’t enjoy it. My parents have always been about Hugo mileage cars my dad bought a low mileage dodge truck that we found out with a snowplow truck and it turned out to be a total turd I mean it only had 50,000 miles on it but everything needed replaced eventually because it sat forever. The last couple vehicles that I’ve had have been hard mileage vehicles and I haven’t had any issues with them I owned a couple cars that had no miles on them and they had a lot of problems because nobody drove them, and they just sat. I’m a firm believer in they have to be driven. I don’t usually look at miles when I’m looking at a Classic Car I look at structural integrity and rust..

[@What.its.like.]

@greenbrier games Great choices and I 100% agree with you if you have the trailer your car to the show you’re doing it wrong. I don’t think I’ll be able to afford to go out there this year but who knows I really want to go to Pebble Beach I really want to experience what that is like but it’s expensive to go I’ve never been there but we’ve been to California once and that was half a lifetime ago

[@ColtonRMagby]

@@What.its.like. If you go to Pebble Beach, the Nethercutt guys will have a Dusenberg that was in the World's Fair once. It was $20,000.00 BRAND NEW! That's a LOT of money for a car, but the body on it was made specifically for it.

[@What.its.like.]

It was just featured on Lenos channel the 20 grand =)

[@arthurpolzin8885]

Tberes a kind of hush. The Carpe ters.... a other great vjdeo Jay!!

[@What.its.like.]

Glad you dig this episode =) You got the song right it’s by Herman’s Hermits.

[@56roadmaster]

Pierce-Arrow all the way.

[@What.its.like.]

Awesome =)

[@hcombs0104]

I would rather have 1. The 1936 Pierce Arrow 2. The 1934 Pierce Arrow Again, another beautiful car. But I was trying to figure out how you managed to wedge yourself between those two cars.

[@What.its.like.]

Awesome choices Let me tell you it was a procedure getting in and out but it was definitely worth it, I never once hit the de Soto, not going to lie it was hard. I almost in get in the back because taught I may be stuck in the car. Lol

[@Clarkecars]

Yes, the grill does open and close. It closes for winter so ice cold air does not impede the engine from warming up and producing heat for the passengers. The hood doors serve the same purpose. These cars did not have the pressurized cooling systems of today. Even in the early 1970s people would put cardboard in front of the radiator behind the grill to warm the engine up quicker in very cold weather. Have you ever noticed that there were no ugly 1934 or `35 cars? BTW 1948 and 1949 Hudsons had twin glove compartments. Does the museum have a Marmon 16?

[@Clarkecars]

PS: Pierce Arrow was the first car with headlamps enclosed into the body. Everyone else had external pods mounted on the fenders or grill surrounds.

[@What.its.like.]

Classic auto mall isnt museum no they don’t have a Mormon there is a dealership that has a Marmon V 16 but they want like half $1 million for it, i’ve reached out countless times that dealership I don’t know. Thank you so much for filling us in with the grill louver situation I wonder who did it first if pierce arrow did it first or packard it first or a different company did it first, do you know which company offered that feature? That feature is now found on Subaru outback and people think it’s a new feature lol

[@Clarkecars]

@@What.its.like. My guess is that it was a natural evolution for most of the truly big cars of the day. Packard, Duesenberg, Lincoln, Marmon et al had the feature. It was hard enough warming up an in line 4 or 6 cylinder engine back then. Imagine heating up a huge straight eight, a V12 or 16. They all used 30 weight non detergent motor oil back then which would be like cold molasses in northern climes like Detroit, New York, Boston and Chicago. I am pleased that you have an interest in these cars. I have always loved cars. One of my fondest memories is from high school. I was in the Grand Opening Parade of Disney World in October 1971. The parade included very rare brass age cars such as Simplex, Locomobile and Saxon. I learned about them from their WW1 age owners. You are getting a good education by making these videos. If you have a question about a particular car you can email me. I am likely one of a very few that knows brass era, coach built, American and European, including fiberglass cars up to around 2009.

[@What.its.like.]

Here is my email email me so I have yours The whole point of this channel is to keep the information out there for anybody that wants it especially the younger generations that wanna get into cars that are getting lost the time. I wanted to make a point to go in depth with all of the specs and information that anybody would want to know before buying these cars. And try to cover them in such a way that nobody else does like bring something to the table that isn’t offered anywhere else. Sorry I use talk text a lot classic auto Mall is a consignment dealership they are the largest one I’d venture to say this side of the Mississippi but that isn’t factual information I don’t know that for a fact so I don’t state that in my video so I might say gateway classic cars is bigger than classic auto Mall which they might be collectively. But yeah my email is [e-mail]

[@markchandler90]

A straight eight was available in all but the largest Pierces. I have seen the blue sedan and trailer at the Nethercutt museum several times in Southern California.

[@What.its.like.]

Yeah they made an 8 series the 12 series only came with a 462 I left the eight cylinder out because you couldn’t get an eight cylinder engine and a 12 series car

[@markchandler90]

@@What.its.like. But could get a 12 in all body styles.

[@user-en9zo2ol4z]

The Hudson Rambler front end reminds me so much of a GMH product of the late 50s, referred to as the FC model. GM Holden were given American cars with plans, and built them as instructed by Detroit, even though we were treated as a back water, with GMH still producing 50s era cars till the mid 60s. They failed with their FB model, with its wrap around windscreen and back glass, not so much because it was ugly, but that it was very obviously a 50s design being foisted on us. An emulation of perhaps a smaller 57 era American car. We had ready access to better looking British vehicles, and that did win out often. For example, they were competing against the likes of the Morris range, the Morris minor, the mini Minor, and best of all the Morris numbered series, starting with the 1100, which introduced Hydroelastic suspension in a smaller car with excellent space inside. The Morris 1800 used the same suspension, and it seemed to have far more interior room than any car I can think of. Both vehicles were front-wheel drive, leaving a vast space for front and rear seat passengers. The rear in particular felt more limousine like, in that the seating was very far back. The Triumph cars were also popular, as was Jaguar, in both Saloon and E-type configurations. The British vehicles were under the umbrella of Leyland Australia, which manufactured most of them, though not the Jaguar range. This made them more competitive, as high duties were imposed on imported cars. This policy went on to create a significant manufacturing base for many Japanese, French and American brands. In short, it drove employment (no globalisation) and gave us a very wide diversity of European and American cars, all made here and tested under our road conditions. A practice which continues for all the major manufacturers. Our overall road situation, outside urban areas and the large networks of freeways and connecting highways between major cities, is excellent; however, anything too far beyond that, quickly degenerates into heavily rutted and corrugated dirt roads, which at best are only bulldozed once a year. Our very frequent flooding events also destroy significant portions of the very high quality roads, by carrying them away, along with any bridges.

[@user-en9zo2ol4z]

The Volvo P1800 is a car which has always interested me. Roger Moore of 007 fame, was a British actor who had a series called 'The Saint' during the 60s, in which he drove his personal P1800, they were also a few of them in my neighbourhood, so still a relatively rare car then, for Australia. I lived just between the international airport and the much older, former international airport, and many pilots had opted to move here, sometimes bringing their families and cars. (the Volvo was ideally suited at that time, as it was R/H drive directly from the factory.) It has svelte lines like a typical sports car of the era, though I do not know its true credentials as such.

[@What.its.like.]

It’s my favorite Swedish car of all time I just posted the episode you should check it out tell me what you think =) kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5nZi5hoq5qEadU

[@thomaswallace479]

While the shaping of body panels on any car may be mostly for style considerations, it is worth noting that the shaping also adds strength to the panels.

[@What.its.like.]

Very true, Also the steel quality was thicker back then

[@donbenham1]

Pierce Arrow the car for me!

[@What.its.like.]

Awesome choice =)

[@joeseeking3572]

Tough choices today: the 36 PA was more advanced than the 36 Packard and arguably better overall quality, but the Packard has better styling to my eyes. I'd probably go with the styling. The 34 offering is just as difficult - a productionized 34 version of the Silver Arrow or a mildly custom (blank rear quarters) Packard Aerocoupe - oy. I'll go with the Pierce Arrow this time. Since I'll never have an actual Pierce Arrow I had thought at one time of buying a mounted archer - and probably should have then; they've gone up quite a bit for a nice one :(

[@What.its.like.]

Yeah those ornaments are insane because people collect them as art pieces and they aren’t making any more of them the attention to detail on this car was second to none. That trunk lid felt like picking up the front end of a Volkswagen beetle it was heavy, the hood was the same way super heavy hood =) Great choices it would be really hard to choose like you said

[@josephcrafa2694]

FYI The first car to have blinkers was in fact the 1939 Buick although the patent for such a thing had been in 1909.

[@What.its.like.]

Awesome information that’s crazy that the patent was filed that much 30 years prior actually putting on a car

[@ronneil3743]

did Studebaker own Pierce in 1936?

[@What.its.like.]

No studebaker on them from 1928 1933 they sold them when they went into receivership to a group of investors for $1 million. Pierce arrow was alone when they went out of business

[@user-en9zo2ol4z]

I would have to pay the price of a current second hand Cadillac to buy an original mirror, I suspect? Nothing is ever cheap when dealing with these high-end vintage vehicles. They were not truly mass-produced, so the scarcity of OEM parts is so limited that the cost would ensure that most people would have to display the part as a unique item in itself, in a glass case. 1 X Driver's side sun visor, to suit: 1936 Pierce arrow seven passenger sedan/saloon car, $3624.00

[@user-en9zo2ol4z]

The top section of the bow appears to have been broken off? It would be nice to see it complete, however, how much self-control would a child need to have to not fiddle with it and snap it off? Perhaps I am mistaken, though? For my money, the only place I like pin striping, is on dark limos, with hand painted lines, as is still done with Rolls-Royce, and I imagine with this as well. I don't think they had transfers which could be lacquered over in those days? 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@What.its.like.]

That always grinding my gears I never mess with anybody’s hood ornaments but I knew people that did and I was always like why why do you mess with things that aren’t yours.

[@soldtobediers]

8:12 Ain't it funny how the color I would call coined ''Turned Off TV Screen Green'' of many shades; have been brought back into play the last 5 years? 8:27 They may have been better served if located on the front-most protrusion of each fender in order to signal side traffic... but why the hell should I pop off; I choose to use hand & arm signals when in my two daily drivers; '53 3100 Pickup & '68 Triumph 650 Trophy Sports!

[@markpfeifer1402]

I'm a car key collector , I'd love it if you showed the car's KEYS as part of your videos each time 🔑

[@What.its.like.]

I wish I could show the keys every time I didn’t have access to these keys and a lot of times I’m finding out that the key is I shot an AMC gremlin yesterday. I took the key out of the ignition, And the key was from a blank GM key it didn’t look anything like Amc Key it looks like a GM key from the 80s

[@janosistvan5226]

1936 Pierce Arrow !

[@What.its.like.]

Awesome choice =)

[@davids9588]

Pierce-Arrow was not the first with vacuum assisted brakes in 1936. Hupmobile featured vacuum assisted brakes on their 527-T model. I own one of these. They may not even be the first with them.

[@What.its.like.]

1928 Pierce arrow I think is the first car with hydro vac.. could be wrong tho thank you so much I didn’t know hup offered that feature =)

[@raymondsprengelmeyer1278]

I would choose the Pierce Arrow on number one and the Packard on number two.

[@What.its.like.]

Great choices =)

[@johncoulombe833]

I am sorry, but you are wrong about how Packard owners feel about the 110, 115 and 120 models. These are fine cars and no Packard owner would ever say that they were not a real Packard. In fact, a lot of wealthy Packard afficionados bought 120s because the performance wasn't appreciably less than that of the senior Packards. Many of my friends own both senior (Twelve, 160, 180) Packards and also own 120s and 115s. This same kind of blame game hit the Clippers as well. Clippers were VERY successful when they were introduced in 1941 and would have continued to had World War II not shut down production.

[@What.its.like.]

I’m talking about the more snooty Packard owners I personally love the 115 and 120 series because it’s not over the top some of them super eight and 12 they get to be a bit much. I reviewed a 115 see business coupe and some of the comments I got “well that’s not even a real Packard” I personally love all packard from the 1936 to 1942 era

[@neildickson5394]

Packard...and Packard. When the Studebaker-Packard merger was in talks, many Packard shareholders were dead set against the merger. Some felt Studebaker had hastened Pierce-Arrows dismiss, and as it turned out both lasted only 4 and 5 years. But, Studebaker met its match with Mercedes Benz which sucked up all the Studebaker dealerships and left it for dead.

[@What.its.like.]

Awesome information thank you so much for sharing that =) great choices, I’m a huge Packard fan 1930 coming next week maybe

[@JamesAllmond]

the two Pierce-Arrows please...

[@What.its.like.]

Great choices =)

[@truckstractorsmore5815]

Can you review the green 1955 ford f350 flatbed at classic auto mall please

[@What.its.like.]

Funny story so I reviewed that not the last time that I went but the time before that and all the footage got messed up.. i’ll go look and see if I still have it I don’t believe that I do I was going to do that two weeks ago If it’s still there when I go back I’m not sure when I’m going back definitely in April I’ll do it =) that truck was super clean

[@stephenspilker9334]

dad always called those cars the piss arrow lol.

[@What.its.like.]

I wonder why, they are so nice built solid quality feel

[@jackdale9831]

Of course, I appreciate ALL Pierce-Arrows, but I much prefer the '36s & later, because ALL cars were moving from the sharp-lines of the early-mid-30s to the softer shapes of '36 and Beyond. If back then, and I had the.funds, my choice'd be a V-12 powered "Silver-Arrow", but I would've wanted an Custom, all-wood body with maple-framing and red-wood panels, looking vaguely like the "barrel-shaped-rear" of Nash Ambassador Sedan that had a "Woody" Body up until '48. I'd want the "Shapes" of the Silver-Arrow, but done in Wood, rather than Steel. If living in Arizona, I probably would have "fought-with" and maybe "Lost" to termites, which in Arizona, are NOT, "If", but "When." You can turn-up your nose at the "Kenosha-Duesenburg", --the Nash Ambassador, but Charlie Nash ALWAYS made a Profit, even in the Depths of the Depression,{'36} that Killed storied marques like Pierce.

[@What.its.like.]

Thank you for sharing all of those points of interest =)

[@ronkemperful]

A very interesting brand. Pierce Arrow automobiles were featured in two Hollywood movies that I know of, THOROUGHLY MODERN MILLIE (a red roadster) and CHEAPER BY THE DOZEN (1950s version). This brand was noted for having the first integrated into the fender headlights, in the 1920s, long before other automakers... that is until the Chrysler Air Flow. Pierce Arrow made the mistake of not having an entry or mid-level priced model, for during the Great Depression large, expensive cars were scorned by the general public as examples of excessive consumption by the rich. Here's a thought: I wonder if our present economy continues to go sour, will expensive luxury brands such as Tesla, Polestar, and Rivian will suffer a similar level of disdain?

[@billolsen4360]

Yup, that's the just the way the Mercedes bends.

[@What.its.like.]

I don’t know people are a lot more arrogant now it seems, Tesla offers a entry-level car the model three.. sort of entry level. Everything has just gotten so expensive that’s why I do the price comparison point because a lot of times there isn’t anything that’s equivalent, some things just can’t be evaluated like there was less money and less people on the planet back in there and there is now their way more money physical money on the planet now but there’s also way more people on the planet now. It will be interesting that’s for sure. I have a big thing for the Chrysler airflow I really want to review that car I really wanna buy one I don’t have the money to buy one but they’re actually really affordable and that’s a classic car that you could use every day I read that they get really good gas mileage like upwards of 34 miles to the gallon with a flathead six and I would love to test all of that. I have a really big goal that I would like to do in the next few years I would love to be able to afford like 37 Packard or Chrysler airflow. Get to see it’s plastic wrapped take it to every car so that I can possibly go to in share it with everybody and I mean everybody, offer rides especially to the younger people we gotta get more people in this car hobby.

[@kpadmirer]

A 1935 Model 845 Club Sedan appeared in "The Sting" as gangster Doyle Lonergan's car.

[@ronkemperful]

@@kpadmirer Thanks! One of my favorite movies, I will look for that car.

[@Batman-wv5ng]

Those bicycles were very expensive at that time .

[@dereksippy4355]

the packard and then the peerless, i wish packard had bought peirce in 38 as a competitor to rr, they had their perfect v12 to put in it and then packard could have kept competing with caddilac and lincoln

[@What.its.like.]

I think it would’ve been totally awesome if the three p’s would’ve ended up together. They would have given Bentley and Rolls-Royce a run for their money.

[@jeffcline7689]

These cars just prove that if you had the money in the day what you could have. Even a lot of modern type home appliances. Rich people had TV in the early thirties. The big difference is what working people got paid and what could be bought on their incomes. If you made five thousand dollars in 1935 it is like 110,969.12 today. But most people made less than $3000 a year. Now it is best to be on entitlements or a trust fund baby if you want to have a home. Home prices are totally out of reach unless you live in an economically dead area. But if you are on entitlements or a trust fund baby get one for free or have grand dad pay for it. My grandfather made $16 a week in the mines and got a company home. You were paid with script which could only be spent in the company store. Company housing will probably be a wave of the future again as most home, automobile and living expenses are out pacing income. It took WWII to truly get the USA out of the depression. And the soldiers were rewarded with factory jobs and the ability to take on debt as a consumer of products and services.

[@What.its.like.]

Thank you so much for sharing all that information lots of great information in there. I’m really scared of the future frankly... I’m just going to leave it at that, I believe if you want something in life you need to work for it. The world owes you nothing.

[@chrisgermo1956]

.....the Silver Arrow is strikingly attractive, partially due to its 2-tone paint, chrome wheels, and wide whites.....but that '34 Packard is next-worldly....the '36 Pierce Arrow was an extremely expensive car.... which I think the '36 Packard equaled, or exceeded it for less money....

[@What.its.like.]

Yeah 7 passenger was expensive they offered cheaper models and more expensive ones as well I’m a packard guy personally I’d love that areo coupe great choices