1968 440 GTX v 1966 GTO - 1/4 Mile Drag Race Video - Road Test TV ®

[@gojackets4894]

This race was more like it was back I'm the day. Both cars seemed to be unmodified, and actually stock. The times were about what they got back in the 60's. Fantastic race from two beautiful muscle cars. Thanks again for letting us view these on KZbin.

[@dannyb9140]

I grew up in the 60's and this is how I remember. No 1000 horsepower twin turbos running 9 second et's...just big V8s fresh off the showroom floor.

[@michaelpace64]

Always lost the hole shot with my gto but the more it rpms came up it just got stronger and stronger. Loved my little GTO

[@blondbowler8776]

Yeah, yeah, little GTO. Oo wa wa oo wa wa wa wa, wa.

[@GTOHHH6]

My 06 GTO is the same way. Its heavy off the line but once she hits about 3500rpm..... the torque pull is astounding and here I come

[@justpray365]

I had a 440 six pack Charger and a 66 GTO. I loved to drive both of them. It’s a win win situation. Lord knows I wish I would have kept at least one of them!

[@randyporter3491]

They both looked to be running 100, while just sitting there. Works of art, both !

[@johndeeregreen4592]

Both cars are a work of art and very equally matched. Not worth seeing two cars, where one is way above the other.

[@proofbox]

This race was more like back in the day than most , when I ran in the 70's a high 13 was a fast street car and no stock car ran a mid 12 , great race.

[@tomrobards7753]

Yeah those were the days weren't they , ah to go back and do it over again

[@quantumss]

Keep in mind the drag strips of the 60's / 70's most likely were about one second slower. A flat 14 sec 440, I don't think so.

[@quantumss]

There were many " muscle cars " that were in the 15"s.

[@jimmycline4778]

My stock 98 C5 corvette does low 12s

[@dannyfields2065]

@@jimmycline4778 not unless it was a z06, i had one, i know.

[@lengthyleonard4288]

Both cars are amazing automobiles. Beauty and raw power at its finest.

[@mmabagain]

Raw power? 375 HP and 360 HP? My truck has 381HP from the factory.

[@chadsimmons8080]

@@mmabagain l

[@marksicotte6403]

i'm just glad their still out there and racing- nothing like the sound and rumble of an American muscle car.

[@mistersmith3986]

I got BIG love for both cars!

[@mothertree]

yeah we do...too bad so many grumblers always show up.I think most of them are youngins though..I would hope.Most of us who grew up around all of these cars know all the manufacturers had good running combinations,I guess that`s what makes the difference.

[@michaelmckamey155]

It's like comparing a 50's Les Paul to a 50's Strat, both are awesome. I love all the big guns of the 60s and early 70s, Chevelles, GTOs, Road Runner, the list goes on and on. I could easily come up with 50 cars from that era I would like to own. The list of modern dream cars are so much smaller for me.

[@hansgruber650]

I'm Mopar but luv the 66 GTO's

[@angelcruise3329]

Stud-Mobile!!

[@MrBluzhound]

Now that’s a real street race with real street cars. I’m sick of watching breathed-on 12.85 times. For a taste of the ‘60’s, watch the above over and over.

[@gzuzsavz]

with sticky track..basically launching on a rubber coated road..12's are not too much trouble for Hemi cars and 440-6bbl cars. even a few Brand X machines can do it, lol.

[@steverathwell2173]

My 72 Cadillac runs 12's.. with 4 doors lol.. way more fun than running 14's

[@yeehaw3792]

@@steverathwell2173 Is it stock?

[@jimdean8369]

I used to own a 1971 Z28 with the European style Camero. It was British Racing green with white stripes. 350 cu with 330hp solid lifter cam, aluminum intake, with a holly 780 carburetor. It was fast, turn 12:73, 107mph in the quarter mile at Milan Dragway. It had the Muncie 4 speed with the Hurst Shifter. It was a beast. Totally unassuming. I worked for the Bennet Bros who ran an A Fueler Corvette, all fiberglass, a “funny” car they called them then. They dyno tuned it the day before. These guys told me to rev it to 6,000 Rpm and side step the clutch..... it launched me like a rocket coming out of the hole a little sideways, but not enough to loose control. I stayed on it and never yielded.... grabbed second gear, and got a little kick but by then, I was already going 85 miles per hour. Third gear, now 98 miles per hour and crossed the finish line at 107 mph. Had the 355 gear from the factory. Wish I would have never sold that car. Same with my SS chevelle, 1966, 396/375 monster, hard to keep this one on the road, light and like riding a bronco, she would jump like a banshee. Great memories of a day gone by.

[@roadtesttv]

Jim Dean Thanks for sharing! The 1971Z28 with the LT-1 and the 1966 Chevelle SS 396 are both awesome muscle cars! Great description of launching the Z28 !

[@jimdean8369]

@@roadtesttv thanks, was always a Chevy guy. Found 10 years ago a 2014 Mustang GT convertible. Black, on Black, on Black. Classic 5.0 L 302 motor, changed the chip, to the rear wheels approx 350hp. Very light car. At my age, I turn 69 in Aug. this is nothing but fun. I bought it 10 years ago, 40,000 original miles from the original owner. See if I can provide a link to my photos.

[@briancenti5423]

BEAUTIFUL GTO, THANKS RT/TV

[@sklecanda]

Just for the record, the manufactures weight specs for each vehicle, based on the body style, engine/trans combination is as follows: the Plymouth GTX is 3470 lbs and the Pontiac GTO is 3465 lbs.

[@danielslocum7169]

those specs are b.s. . dont know about the gto, but the gtx weighs 3700-3800 all day long.

[@gordonipock9385]

This was close because the GTO had a decided rear axle ratio advantage. The GTX would have no doubt won easily with the same rear end as the Poncho.

[@davegeisler7802]

Thats about right , same gears would be a win for GTX

[@danielslocum7169]

true; but the x did have a 51 c.i. advantage which made it fair in my book.

[@Colt-tf6xf]

The 66gto is bulletproof, and my buddies will acknowledge.

[@johnwilkerson2195]

Close race love the old muscle cars

[@beachsidebum]

That is the exact time I got with my 1995 Trans Am convert on the 1/4. Love Pontiac's!

[@whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306]

I have a 1995 Trans AM. It is a quick car but I never ran it. However it is a chevy engine in it. So it is really only a Pontiac via aesthetics. Now the 68 GTO I had.. that was a Pontiac.

[@beachsidebum]

BUT I did have a 3:73 rear and bolt ons only and I had the slower LT1 not LS1 so pretty good time for my convertible

[@mrmete]

Seen this coming, i like watching these videos because it gives you the info on the cars, and that is all i need as long as the drivers are good

[@angelcruise3329]

GTX's are UnSung-Heroes of that Era!! Very-Quick Off-Line but the GOAT got Him on Top-In!! 66-GTO is My All-Time Muscle-Car!!

[@MrMenefrego1]

Awesome, All-American and purely mechanical!

[@bornbuckeye6046]

Old school all day long! Best era for cars.

[@randallbaker2870]

Definitely two badass machines

[@jerryhayden8720]

I like this race because I had both of these cars. My 66 GTO was gold and my 68 GTX was fire engine red. I eventually spun the crank bearings in both of them. They sure were fun. I wish I'd kept some of my cool cars. If only we knew they'd skyrocket in value I'm sure many of us would have managed to stash a few of them but hey, they were so cheap especially by the time they were say, 6 year's old because bank's generally loaned money for cars 5 year's or newer. They didn't cost much new anyway. When I was in my twenties you could find some decent old fixer upper farmhouses for 25,000 or thereabouts and now the prices of a new hot care is way beyond that. Oh how times have changed.

[@Bozo1360]

These times are very close to magazine times from the period. I know, I bought all the magazines. With a very few mild modifications both cars can dip into the 12s.

[@electrolyticmaster8396]

That's my baby - GTO. I had one exactly like it. Mine was a 389 Tri-Power w/4 spd and 3.23. Best I ever ran was 102 MPH. I don't remember ET's -- too long ago.

[@joltinjack]

Emcee made a mistake. GTO edged the Gittix - go back and look. I was pulling for the GTX - my uncle had a 1968 GTX Commando 440.

[@HITEKSTRANGER]

GTX trap light was tripped first. So close it's hard to see. Your uncle had great taste in fine automobiles. Yours was pretty good too.

[@HITEKSTRANGER]

I got your reply mixed up with another I had just read, but check the trap light. I was thinking you had a GTO , sorry... old age confusion.

[@jamesguidry3995]

GTO time came on the display "BEFORE" the GTX time was displayed with the win light ! GTO had a better time & speed than the GTX "BUT" , GTX beat the GTO out of the hole at the tree , thus , the slower car won the race !! Loving them both ! Gotta give that GOAT driver respect for coming on strong at the big end & shifting that 4-speed like a PRO !

[@1967davethewave]

Guys talking about 3.90's vs 3.23's have no idea about how to set up a car for drag racing. I have a '69 GTO with a 455. I run 3.55's and that gives me the fastest trap speeds with the quickest E.T.'s. Switching to 3.23's will increase my trap speed slightly while losing about 1/10th in E.T. Switching to 3.91's I run 1/10th quicker but lose 2 mph and the engine is over revving. 3.73's give identical E.T's and trap speeds as the 3.55's but the engine is revving higher so why waste the motor. A 440 has a lot of torque so I'm betting that the 3.23's are probably about right although 3.55's might knock a tenth off. But these are stock cars, not highly modified drag cars where 4.11's or 4.56's can work with their increased rpm range. When 2 cars run this close it's any bodies race and one mistake on the launch or one mistake on a shift will change the outcome. Both cars ran almost identical times to the original cars back in the day so I am assuming they are both stock. Remember that the GTO has a 389 H.O. so it was a lot hotter then the average 335hp '66 GTO while the GTX had the standard 440 magnum. I'm sure a Hemi wouldn't have been so close. And the GTO has about a 350lb advantage. I'm not talking blueprinted dyno tuned cars but stock cars from 1966 and 1969 respectively and from every road test I have ever seen 13.90's to 14.2's at 100mph is about right for both cars.

[@oliasofsunhillow7116]

Super Commando 440, not 440 Magnum!

[@hwilliam2952]

Hey Dave ! Finally someone talking some sense! Not just talking about their favorite car or manufacturer. I am a MOPAR guy. But I respect any two ton's of fun Detroit Steel motivated by a big block! Pony car's are not my thing!

[@lewisshepard9239]

Finally someone that knows a little about racing.

[@daverodkey]

They magically SWITCHED LANES !!!!

[@cjbert6790]

The et for both cars was great for street tires.

[@davidefland1985]

U have to admit the goat is strong considering the GTX had about 50 more cubic inches.

[@timenglish3611]

Rrrrrroarren

[@jimdean8369]

GTX was much heavier, it’s the HP to weight ratio. On any given day one could beat the other, circumstances my friends.

[@normanflint8757]

@@jimdean8369 diff.ratios

[@wallacebentley6655]

I believe it! My 68 was too. Crude and slower by today's standard but pure visceral fun and that little "GTO" emblem on the fender said it all. Your whatever might be a tad faster but it wasn't a GTO.

[@strattuner]

American iron,doing what it was designed to do,impress,no matter what design you run,be glad somebody has another design to race you with or it would have been boring ,I like the chase

[@mocharger06]

And the "X" was running highway gears, compared to a 4.10

[@jimhuskey3343]

Marlon Medina at least you caught it I don't think some of the guys get that

[@EGGINFOOLS]

And still couldn't gain mph at the end of the track. It pulled out of the hole faster with the higher gears. It should have mph'erd better at the end with the trans it had.

[@electrolyticmaster8396]

Not sure if the GTO could obtain that speed with a 4.10. The R's would be too much. Actually, the text above said was a 3.90 gear.

[@slingshot9150]

It was an automatic !!

[@johnrunion7258]

GM didn't have a 4.10 ratio available in their differentials.The trap stats indicate to me that it was a 3.90 gear.The following year,a friend and I took his recently new showroom stock '67 GTO to US 30 Dragstrip and it went 13.60's at 106/108 all day with 3.90 gears and some little cheater slicks.Seems as #'s are authentic in this example.

[@johnjubie7144]

A couple of very nice cars, that GTX could use a little more gear though.

[@charlesbear863]

I had a 68 GTX, and a 67 goat. I'd give any thing to have them back

[@charlesbear863]

@Gee Dee I know, I also had a 68, 69, and a 74 charger. Loved every one of my cars

[@craigpitre3035]

Had a 65 GTO back in the day wish I had it today

[@shaunmark1]

That was close! Great drag.

[@timmclaughlin3314]

Won on a holeshot!! Good close race!!

[@327gtr]

I just love reading all the excuses

[@sharitcuello5026]

Vaya interesante Pontiac Gto 1966 vs Plymouth Gtx 440 hemi 1968 Está Carrera estuvo buena

[@tammyforbes2101]

My dad raced a gtx in the late sixty' sand he ran 12's but he had slicks and a big rear end plus his was a 6 barrel 440. He had two cases full of throphy's and time slips he won with the car. His fastest time ever was 11.11 126mph.

[@mothertree]

Wow it sounds as if your Dad was quite the mechanic and racer.I bet those were some great times and that GTX was a beauty.I hope you have some pictures of it.

[@lencho2436]

Nice

[@lewisshepard9239]

Obviously not stock,but still great runs.

[@60viking]

good race. those are from my past.

[@marcuscolvin5841]

the fact he had a really long highway ratio kinda makes it unfair. but it was a good show from both anyways.

[@marcturk4410]

There's always a faster car ! Opinions vary?

[@tonyt8805]

Two very beautiful cars!!! 😎😎😎

[@angelcruise3329]

dave cee...yes I did notice. Everytime GTO-Shifted the front end Raised-Up which increases Air-Resistance...GTX had a Better-Suspension, very smooth...wonder if it was an Automatic?

[@crippleguy415]

Both cars are GORGEOUS 😃❤

[@whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306]

I've had both GTOs and a 440 Roadrunner. I tell you those 440's were a beast. I think only a really good running ram air 3 or 4 could give it a run in the 1/4. I still like the GTO's a little better though.

[@edwardpate6128]

Pretty close considering the GTO gave up 51 cubic inches but both great cars.

[@LORISSABOOBMAN]

Give a 351 4V Cleveland those cubic inches & you left both in the dust!

[@danielslocum7169]

@@LORISSABOOBMAN maybe if the phord didnt throw a rod.

[@LORISSABOOBMAN]

@@danielslocum7169 mine had 4 bolt mains

[@danielslocum7169]

@@LORISSABOOBMAN main cap retention is seldom a problem;especially in smallblocks with short strokes and lightweight rotating assemblies. oiling systems are often inadequate at high rpm. never impressed with phord systems. chevy and chrysler are generally much more durable and robust. big cleveland ports greate with drag strip gearing like 4.56, and lousy with street gearing like 3.5; in the 1/4 mile that is.

[@jeffrothegamer]

@@LORISSABOOBMANmy dad had same issues with a 351 modified. The rods. 302 also

[@mikepinder8128]

if i am not mistaken this is the same gtx that ran at the musclecar drag race back in 1987 it only went 14.72 at 96 went up against an 87 irocz 350 230hp and barely won

[@gilmurrell8789]

That sounds about Right.. My Dad had a New 69 Road Runner, That did Low 15 second ETs, at around 92 mph.. All were Similar on Thouse couple of trips to the Strip..

[@ragecage2011]

Dosent matter who wins id take either and there is always someone. FASTER

[@TheRoadlord]

Seems about right. Those two cars should be in the same ball park, depending on who cut the best light. 440s torque pulled off the 3.23s pretty well despite having a weight disadvantage. Im a mopar guy but those Indians couldn't be just laughed off. So many makes of cars were close adversarys back then.

[@TheRoadlord]

Spoken like a true 2.2 Turismo owner.

[@johndeeregreen4592]

The GTX actually weighs less than the GTO 3500 versus 3600. If you were a real Mopar guy, you would realize the Mopar and their unibody construction made them weigh a lot less than they looked.

[@cjbert6790]

John Deere Green My 69 4 speed bucket seat, n96 equipped 383 roadrunner said 3450 on the title but was 3700 on a scale.

[@danielslocum7169]

@@johndeeregreen4592 wrong. 3700-3800.

[@johndeeregreen4592]

@@danielslocum7169, I've owned both... have you?

[@clinteastwood9115]

If that were a Chevy that GTX would have won!

[@teehud313]

Damn good race

[@70stunes71]

Very close race but after watching it a second time it's true. The win light went to the GTX. Just like the announcer said.

[@stillrumone]

GREAT RACE!!!...

[@88427rat]

Can't believe all the crap about the gears. I'd say the gears made up for the bigger horsepower and 50 cubic inches in the X. Thought it was fair and considering everything, the race was evenly set up and was very close as it should have been.

[@lukemorgan3368]

Lol both are great cars but if you check both lane lights the mopar got the win light, the announcer even said so in the video, don't know how or what was up but close indeed some of those pontiacs will scream but if that mopar had a different rear end and if it was a 6 barrel damn it would've been gone

[@lewisshepard9239]

Don’t need a “ if “ the GTX got the win.

[@santiagobarrios2335]

60s Muscle Cars Me encantan

[@ammoalamo6485]

Today the myth of the Muscle Car remains, but nobody drives one. Many of the best of them would run mid to high 13s in the quarter, even bone stock. But allow someone other than a museum the time money and interest to own a 60s muscle car today in 2021, and they don’t go original, they get resto-mods with good brakes, suspension, wheels, tires, brakes... and better engine. In the DFW metroplex where I was a teen 1966-69, the big attraction was Green Valley Raceway, a hugely popular dragstrip. It held national and regional competitions, but was also drawing kids who only wanted one run to establish a number to write in their back window with white shoe polish. My GF's bro had a new 68 Plymouth GTX 440, all black, auto and air. I can't remember exactly the time of that GTX except to recall it was well above the mid-13s that I assumed a 440 GTX should run. Maybe he had a 'family car' rear end on it, since he bought it shortly before he got married, with a kid on the way.

[@roadtesttv]

@Ammo Alamo Thanks for sharing 👍

[@MegaRiffraff]

I had a 1969 440-4 speed X back in high school 1973 , same color as this one but no stripe at the bottom , had the Dana trac- PAC , only thing that gave me a hard time in the 1/8 th , was my friends gsx Buick , the X could be hard to get out of the hole sometimes and he would get me .

[@nickdulak1837]

Back when I had 440 B bodies, I didn't waste gas on Pontiacs, or Fords.

[@marshallhoward619]

Obviously you don't know shit Nick dulak Pontiac had plenty of great motors 389,400,421,428, and 455 for you to say you would not waste gas on them yeah a 326 or the overhead cam six didn't stand a chance but the rest of those motors sure as hell did. And Ford 406,427,428,429 were no joke either. Your an idiot.

[@nickdulak1837]

@@marshallhoward619 I was an extremely active street racer during the 70's. I speak from experience not be. I even built several Pontiacs for myself and others they were OK but much too fragile to withstand serious racing. Name calling is easy on U-TUBE tough guy. I would be glad to take an IQ test with you anytime! The only fast Ford I ever saw was a 71 Boss 351 w/ some mods. It was a friend of mine's. It went like hell but had oiling issues. 429 Fords were tough but slow. 428's were fast but fragile. I was there in those days and helped my friends wrench on them all. Although a Mopar man, I had a 70 LT1 Vette and consider that engine the best muscle engine ever built, tough & extremely powerful.

[@marshallhoward619]

Got a 136 IQ not a genius but no idiot. Mopar had many great car's as did Pontiac, Ford and chevy. We obviously have very different experiences my Pontiac's have withstood hard racing.

[@marshallhoward619]

Not to mention Nick if you were very active with these car's you Know as well as I do if the cars are set up relatively the same. It pretty much boils down to who the better driver is. And I apologize for insulting you. Have a good night.

[@badass6.0powerstroke10]

@@nickdulak1837 All Cleveland Engines have an oil issue, if you knew about Real Engines (Fords) you would know it's an easy fix on the Cleveland, too oil the mains and rods first, before the valvetrain. Can easily be done with some hose and some fittings. And you are right about the 71 Boss 351, baddest small block ever !!! Would eat up a 70 LT 1 I ran Cleveland's for years, but i stepped up to a 521 Stroked 460. Put a Good set of heads and a nice solid roller in any 429-460 and you make big power with a strong bottom end.

[@GTOHHH6]

I own a 2006 GTO and while it may not be the most appealing vehicle with an iconic brand name, I've always believed Pontiac was the best car that GM made. I've owned over 10 different Pontiacs, 2 of which are/were GTOs. I will never buy any other type of "fast" vehicle.

[@91Wildcat700]

Tight race imagine if the GTX had some lower gears like 3.91's or even 3.55's he would have trimmed off at least 2 tenths with 3.91's.

[@slingshot9150]

IF is a big word!

[@camerondouglas4162]

Anyone else notice the gearing? GTO had 3.90. GTX had 3.23. What if the GTX had, say, 3.55's?

[@FO2304]

Lads... the GTX won the drag race. Look for the win light. Listen to the announcer.

[@dufus2273]

exactly. look at time and MPH. 440 won.

[@davidh1249]

@@dufus2273 Yeah,He won on a hole shot,it sounded like the GTO chirped the tires in every gear.Like the old saying goes"spinning ain't winning",but it was a great race to watch.

[@daleandrews3552]

I had a '66 GTO back in the early '70's. It was solid gold in and out and had the 389/330 hp with a damned POWERGLIDE (2 sp.) tranny. The tranny was its downfall. It made for fairly sick acceleration and it drank premium leaded gasoline like crazy. It wouldn't have turned in this E.T. or even close. It had fairly decent performance for a muscle car, I guess, but I just cruised around in it and never actually raced it. I got many compliments on just how drop dead gorgeous it was! 😁

[@roadtesttv]

Thanks for sharing, Dale. 1966 GTO is a great looking car. You must have great memories of owning one in the 70’s when gas was less than 50 cents a gallon. Thank again for sharing and watching !

[@captjim007]

Good race

[@eugeneparker9465]

In the beginning the GTO is in the right-hand Lane doing a burnout how did it wind up in the left-hand Lane when in the race

[@cliffordzellner5917]

I was rooting for... A great race and I won.

[@gevi9080]

the GTX with 323 rear ? that gear ratio is for a "Station wagon and fuel economy",... the 3.90 gear on the GTO that's for drag racing !,A numerically higher axle ratio provides a mechanical advantage to send more of the engine's available torque to the rear tires, GTX's had the 3.91, My guess that was a "satellite" clone GTX anyway, a good "means nothing" race

[@cjbert6790]

That is the stock rear end in an automatic car. A 2.76 was optional for highway use.

[@herbertjames8673]

Nice......

[@gavinvalentino6002]

*SO NOBODY IS GOING TO COMMENT ABOUT HOW THEY MAGICALLY SWITCHED LANES BETWEEN BURNOUT AND GREENLIGHT?*

[@roadtesttv]

Lol. Good catch. Should we fire the camera person? Thanks for watching !

[@Msflamingo-wl4qo]

Dang it! By .02 secs. Good Race here. They were matchn grabbing gears. D-a-n-g! I Luv American Muscle Cars, but my heart belongs 2 MOPAR!!! XXX♡♡♡

[@Msflamingo-wl4qo]

Btw: My Daddy would Race 1/4 mile w/3 on the tree vs. manual 4 speeds...& still WIN! Depends on the Driver. ;)

[@clintonflynn815]

I agree; a good driver can make up the difference.

[@santiagobarrios2335]

Y ese Pontiac me encanta

[@beach_bum52]

RACECAR spelled backwards is RACECAR❣❣❣ both are awesome cars

[@johnbecay6887]

close race

[@Riverdeepnwide]

"Help me understand" (thanks Derrick!) GTX gets the win light, GTO runs 2/10ths quicker. Hole shot? First over the line right?

[@normanflint8757]

Diff.ratio..

[@sherrysetliff2502]

Uh, the gtx got the win light.

[@dodgecummings12v]

Right on, dam 440 held its ground with 3.23's,hahahaha.

[@dennisschell5543]

Yep...I picked it. 😎

[@doodar21]

What... no computer doing it for you ??

[@spockistheman]

The Mopar has 51 more cubic inches and it still can't get it done. That's Pontiac power.

[@user-eu9ub8kj9j]

The gtx had a 3.23 which are highway gears and the Pontiac had a 4.10 if the gtx had 4.10 I'd would blow the doors off your goat

[@customkey]

+cade rondon According to the screen info the goat had 3.90 gears.

[@billyballard8994]

spockilstheman blah bylaw molar Bo car

[@spockistheman]

Billy Ballard learn how to speak English dude.

[@327gtr]

xtr3m3fx Put a 455 in that GTO and that hemi would be walked.

[@hosoiarchives4858]

What class of racing is this?

[@donayers5925]

Looked really close

[@RogerWKnight]

My 1966 Pontiac Lemans is such an easy driving car! With the immortal (so far) 326, it is not quite as fast as the 389 powered GTO, but perfect for the 99.9% of the time you are driving and not needing that little bit of extra horsepower.

[@randallnadeau1691]

Great job, no idea who won

[@normanflint8757]

Slight rear differential ratio may make a difference..

[@1rarefish]

Some how they switched lanes??

[@garycorbier9123]

The GTX probably won the first round and the guys filming it didn't like that.

[@Riverdeepnwide]

Edited. They usually run best of three.

[@daleandrews367]

Come on and turn it on, wind it up, blow it out GTO!

[@daleostrom3613]

@Rusell Shaw 1500 lbs ???

[@garycorbier9123]

Blow it up! if it were a Chevy.

[@stevehartz4615]

Go go gto!!

[@wyocoloexperience7025]

HIT IT! > 0:44

[@timjones7547]

That Goat is a post, so no doubt lighter by a couple hundred pounds. 14 second, 100 mph quarter mile pretty typical for a stock GTO. Close ratio 4 speed and 3.90 axle ratio.

[@Rickertsred]

A skilled stick shift driver will dust a slushbox every time.

[@packingten]

Lots of pros ran automatic transmission,I built them over 35 yrs Torqueflites were not slushboxes.

[@johnadams9044]

GTO edges out the 440. So much for MOPAR fantasies about the 440.

[@santiagobarrios2335]

1966 Pontiac Gto 389 vs 1968 Plymouth Gtx 440 Super Comando

[@markbrynteson5141]

That higher rear I bet!

[@shanewatts9143]

GTO!!!!!!!!!!

[@connorwalton9935]

My dad had a '69 GTX 440 automatic. He said it came with 4.10's or 4.11's but didn't like the fuel mileage so he switched to a 2.72 rear end. He said even with that there wasn't much that could hang with him. Not sure how tuned his motor was but he claims he just did some head work. the only race he talks about ever losing was to a '68 383 Roadrunner. He said he smoked the tires leaving the line and the Roadrunner didn't and took off, was catching the guy but couldn't quite get him by the finish.

[@dodgecummings12v]

why a 2.72??? Who expects a big gtx to get good fuel mileage let alone with a pumped up 440,hahaha. I have a buddy that was told by some summit part representatives to put 2.86 in his 72 4-speed 454 nova. Smokes the clutch just trying to take off, way too high of gear. So to get around the problem he wants to install a 6-speed manual. I told him to install some 3.73 or 4.10 with 6 gears and then he would be killing cars down low and keep it up on the big end but wont listen,haha.

[@DoubleVisionandco]

That's because Summit Techies don't have a clue of what they're doing. When I get a Summit catalog I go to "ask professor overdrive" just so I can laugh at how many wrong answers it gives.

[@connorwalton9935]

He said he wanted better mileage. I can imagine it did improve over the 4.11's that were in there. not sure how hot the motor was but it maybe it was juiced pretty good if he was still out running everybody with those gears like he said. Also, he said he tried to find top end on it after putting those high gears in and never could find it. Speedo goes to 150 on those cars and he said it was buried one night and still climbing and he just finally gave up.

[@dodgecummings12v]

Good, so i am not the only one that knows that issue,hahaha.

[@Randy-lf2dp]

Nice gtx nice gto although i like the 68 to 70 gto with 400 nice