1981: standing arm locks were swift and SAFE (Neil Adams)

[@Chadi]

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[@knw-seeker6836]

I love these oldschool techniques

[@franciscoferreira-eh1yu]

Judo was very effective for self defense when it become a Olympic sport technics started to be banished in the name o safety

[@jamesfrankiewicz5768]

Some of what makes standing joint locks dangerous is that the direction you need to move to release the pressure is often counterintuitive, so uke genuinely needs more training in ukemi (the broader sense of the word, not just falls and rolls) for the techniques to be performed safely, especially under competitive stress. Wakigatame, in particular, can go from a safe technique to an unsafe one with just minor modification. As an example: while training wakigatame (an aikido version of the technique, a.k.a. "rokkyō", "hijikime osae") non-competively, at a moderate pace, I've had my own shoulder momentarily separated by this one. My eyes got big, my partner's eyes got big, and my shoulder fortunately slipped back into place without getting caught in a dislocated position. After asking if I was okay, my partner then remarked "let's slow this down some more!" to which I wholeheartedly agreed.

[@Yupppi]

Good comment on what the real life often looks like over watching old clips and theorising.

[@Christiannotdior]

In 24yrs of aikido, no.6 or rokkyo is still my favorite, it can go from nice and fluffy to dislocation in a split second. And of course, Neil needs no introduction ❤

[@clacicle]

Your videos are tremendously inspiring. I always look forward to hearing what you have to say and show.

[@combatsportsarchive7632]

Shinya Aoki (Kosen Judo and BJJ) used a standing lock in an MMA match years ago.

[@joeg7096]

also interesting how he executed it too, he didnt fall into it just ripped it rotationally standing. very nasty break. only other example i can really think of is jon jones v glover teixeira when he shrekt his shoulder with a similar technique. i kind of agree that they should be allowed because otherwise it enable sloppy underhook positioning, but i dont really think they can be safely defended other than via prevention, because to be really effective momentum/explosiveness is necessary for waki gatame. ude gatame i think is different, but for the waki gatame theres a big difference between gradually applying it while the opponent can defend fairly easily vs ripping into the break with momentum and distance

[@haffoc]

Waki gatame is probably the most dangerous of the standing locks. Many people spun violently into it or fell to the ground (as you've shown), which is where the injuries happen. Perhaps just disallow standing waki gatame and bring back standing ude gatame and ude garame, which are great locks that you can manage without injuring the opponent. Also, I'd like to see kote gaeshi allowed too.

[@travisthompson581]

Chadi, I love your videos. As a karateka I can tell you that much of the lost grappling of Okinawan Karate consists of standing arm/shoulder locks and destructions. See the stacked hand positions in Karate. We use a lot of Tuite/Chin Na in the standing positions seen in kata. Keep up the good work!

[@arnoldcohen1250]

You are making an excellent argument for a judoka to study at least the basics of aikido!

[@teovu5557]

Judo already does aiki tactics better than aikidoka who can't spar or fight if their life was at risk. Judo's breaking of balance,side stepping drop throws and using your opponents force against makes judo superior to aikido in application. Fun fact judos Itsutsu no kata(look it up on KZbin) is basically aikijujitsu as it drives from kanos study of kito ryus which is a aikijujitsu type of jujutsu. Kito Ryu the main basis of judo is as described. Kitō-ryū is similar to Aikijutsu and shares some principles, such as the concept of "ki" (energy) and aiki. Kitō-ryū also uses the principle of "kuzushi no ri" or "breaking of balance", which is now associated with modern judo.

[@PicaPauDiablo1]

Excellent video chadi

[@D.MauroBaiardiTwerd]

Thank you very much Chadi, I'm Mauro From Buenos Aires, Argentina. I do BJJ, and started doing throws thanks to your videos, loved aikido ukemi and clean flowing judo techniques. I come from Aikido. and believe that martially we are a family (daito ryu aiki jujutsu, judo, brazilian jujitsu) Salut.

[@Chadi]

@@D.MauroBaiardiTwerd thank you Mauro 🙇🏻‍♂️

[@fernandohsantos]

Well remembered! Standing armlocks is another important part of Judo that was unfairly severed, and which needs to come back. "Let's make Judo great again"

[@alexandrehuat773]

We need to set up an alternative federation called Suit Grappling that gathers all wrestling techniques practiced with a judogi.

[@teovu5557]

Judo is basically Greco Roman wrestling with a GI with all these bans on techniques.....

[@frankiegodinez8864]

I won’t my last tournament with a standing armlock using the lapel. It was an immediate tap. My opponent didn’t even know how to defend it

[@nappyheaded]

what style was this?

[@teovu5557]

So you did it in BJJ tournament?

[@nappyheaded]

@@teovu5557 no one knows he;s not answering

[@thunderkatz4219]

@@teovu5557probably used Japanese jujitsu techniques

[@nappyheaded]

@@thunderkatz4219 it exist in judo and aikido too

[@JamesW7723]

Great video per usual!

[@fernandocoan6729]

excellent! I'm going to try some of these armlocks in training this week. Thank you, master! Oss!!!

[@Biggocat]

Hey Chadi, first of all I appreciate all of your content and the work you put so nicely. I see your book is on Amazon, because of the restrictions of my country I cannot buy it, but if it were to publish on iPhone books app on IOS, I'd certainly buy it from there. As I'd love to both support and read your book. Sincerely, yours.

[@StuartJuggernaut]

one of my senseis who was really old school would teach seoi nage with making the muscle a bit lower on the upper arm (rather than in the armpit) to have an armlock as another option

[@kananisha]

The martial art of Judo vs the "sport". 🤙

[@martialartnerd1396]

I me coming from another martial art, and in comparison I'm quite beginner in judo. When I practice Judo like todays rules, it is hard to fight with more advanced people for me. But sometimes, I have ideas my friends don't have because they are used to todays rules, not me. And last week, I made surprise with one of my friends dojo attempting a stand up arm lock ! 😅

[@ricardokerscher]

4:26 He extended his arm to block the fall. It was absurdly dangerous and luckily Adams didn't throw his weight on top of him, otherwise it would have been another case of a broken arm. It is not possible to praise this type of senselessness and irresponsibility.

[@sergiofuentealba9523]

Example. Honorato vs Yoshida, 2000 Olympics kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZomzaniKm6yad5osi=3D79lk5zve4cYNAI

[@jasonrose6288]

We used to practice them. They were very hard to pull off in randori.

[@caelanhenry2233]

Neil was a breast and I love his commentary! I really like the idea of standing submission but I can see they could go wrong especially in competition. Great work Chadi

[@jamesalexander3893]

A real tit!

[@Ronin_Martial_Arts]

We do these all the time in Japanese Jujutsu, effective when closing the distance using Atemi Waza techniques.

[@teovu5557]

So many people say Japanese jujutsu but never state which jujutsu style?

[@Ronin_Martial_Arts]

@@teovu5557 Sorry for the late response, my mother just passed with cancer. I say it as Japanese Jujutsu, because I'm ex Bujinkan, yet I have trained in other schools and other arts. The techniques are the same throughout, yet the terminology is different in the name of the same technique. In old terms is a blanket of Taijutsu or Jujutsu or Yawara Te. God Bless

[@kaisersadd3667]

Chadi, I have a question. I know that Luta Livre Esportiva is known for its groundfighting features like BJJ but does Luta Livre Esportiva have throws and takedowns like the ones seen in Freestyle Wrestling and Folkstyle Wrestling since Luta Livre Esportiva itself is rooted in Catch Wrestling in which both Freestyle and Folkstyle also descend from this style as well?

[@teovu5557]

That's a strange question for chadi lol The have all the same takedowns and throws as modern freestyle and folk style wrestling. As you said they all came from catch. Pretty sure you could of just searched videos of their throws. Lol

[@kaisersadd3667]

@@teovu5557 I ask this because I often see Luta Livre Esportiva does a lot of ground fighting and barely see an emphasis of Throws and Takedowns, atleast on most videos that I've watch.

[@Yupppi]

I like the historical exploration and celebration of the art a lot, they are beautiful clips and information, but the glory gets robbed a bit by having the emphasis on complaining about current rules every time and arguing about what's subjectively better.

[@blist14ant]

Most locks are meant to be done quickly and aggressively, so you can injure the appointment and then you can either decide pin or break the joint of the opponent. so, the quicker you do the joint lock {with practice} the better the results.

[@clacicle]

Not necessarily. When done well, it’s more about timing, distancing and correct mechanics as well as listening to how your opponent responds rather than just trying to beat them to the punch. That said, this requires a tremendous amount of correct practice and attitude.

[@alexandrehuat773]

Ude gatame is underrated

[@rafaelcarrera9436]

Are there any styles or lineages of judo that still dedicates time to standing armlocks? Every time my bjj class had a judo instructor visit and teach the entire portion of standing instruction and drills were about proper gi grips and footwork for throws.

[@MrNetyzen]

Yoseikan

[@teovu5557]

Kosen rules judo competition in Japan still allows standing arm locks.

[@CoelhoSports]

Much more common in aikido.

[@JustSomeGuy69420]

These techniques need a revival. I think it's slowly beginning. Aikido gave them a bad name unfortunately, but I see them more and more now. Even saw some attempts at CJI. It will re-enter the mainstream martial arts consciousness. When MMA/BJJ normies are more aware of it, and start playing with them, they will realize they actually work lol. And then we'll all feel bad about making fun of Steven Seagal.

[@chihabbenabdelkrim-p7p]

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[@AreteAskesis]

This channel is more addicting than anabolic steroids

[@thomasmcgee7990]

Does anyone know any way I can watch the judo of the Olympics Paris 2024 back?

[@Serega300nerevar]

I think standing locks are better for self defence than ground locks, because in real fight there can be a lot of opponents. If you play ground game with them you have no chance to survive. You can use ground locks only if you fight a single person. So, that's why standing locks died in sport judo. Because in sport it's not the best option. But in self defence IT IS.

[@JoriMikke78]

If you fight multiple people you are going to lost the fight no matter what you do. This is intellectual dishonesty against ground fighting whether intentional or not. Standing locks are far, far harder to get at all and even harder to finishis. If there is no tapping then the other fighter really hasn't any reason to submit to the lock - there is a reason that these aren't seen in the UFC or in MMA in general. Even while they might be easier to finish there because of the gloves (which generates more grip). That scenario where Neil Adams did it is not even close to real fighting. They are both leaning to each other, and trying to control each others sleaves - you would get KO'd immediately leaning front like that with your head exposed. They might work in judo or they might not, I really don't know, but I do know that judo isn't real fighting.

[@JoriMikke78]

You could also apply that logic to grappling in general - you should never get close to someone, even if they are alone, since you can't move away or even run away if they have a grip of you - there is more truth in here than "never go to the ground, he might have friends" scenario. And actually he might have a knife and in that case you really shouldn't allow him to get a hold of you. Works at least in the self defence part of it, if not in the fighting realm.

[@scarred10]

Standing locks of any kind are very unreliable because the opponent isnt controlled and can still move a lot.Theres no submission outside sport so you need to break the arm and even then it may not be enough.

[@Evantailsacre]

​@@JoriMikke78No, that is a myth. You can absolutely win against multiple opponents, and quite a few of them. Most people suck at fighting, don't know how to throw a punch, kick, clinch, throw, sweep, lock, submit or anything for that matter. They are incapable of even forming à correct Word in the language of fighting while à trained person can have exceptional grammar and syntaxe. More particularly, people suck at violence. They never had to use it, they are unfamiliar with it, they don't know how it works, when it should be used, what it can achieve, why it can start or end, and who isn't to be messed with and can handle themselves. It is impossible to win against several trained fighters with 5+ years of training in combat sports who are used to spar would be a more correct statement.

[@badart3204]

@@JoriMikke78you can win against multiple opponents bc most people suck and haven’t been hit. You can see multiple videos of people winning them mostly using boxing, throws, and even the occasional rear naked choke while simply tanking the hits from the other guy bc they often can’t land clean thus hitting the top of the head without major damage. Most people win by boxing very very aggressively though

[@thunderkatz4219]

This is common in japnese jujitsu

[@barryhudson4238]

I worry that standing arm locks would result in too many throws by arm lock reducing some of the more judo like skill in throwing but I’m probably still salty after having to roll out of a standing arm lock and my opponent getting the win (this was after the ban came in as well!)

[@gatocles99]

Great for self defense. The naughty one, that is.

[@kiyose-qk4wl]

立ち関節、蟹ばさみが禁止されて武道性が後退し、より安全なスポーツになってきたと思います。動画の通り立ち関節は一気に体重をあびせると非常に危険でした。一瞬で極めるので手首関節も極めながら技を掛ける選手もいたので禁止も仕方ないと思います。

[@Ninja9JKD]

We use arm standing arm locks quite often in Bujinkan, Muso dori. I'm a big fan and wish they didn't remove this from Judo.

[@salsafusionstudios]

I haven't seen a standing armlock finish ever..very low percentage move

[@teovu5557]

Maybe so but a shit ton of judoka pulls it off before the ban. Judoka shinya aoki even finished a MMA match with it. Look up judo wakigatame in competition.

[@gregorde]

Safe? Eh…

[@ralfhtg1056]

Standing joint locks (wrist, elbow, shoulder) should be brought back, just like grabbing the legs. For the sake of realism it should be banned to grab the Gi and only No-Gi techniques should be allowed.

[@HamasPringles]

"For the sake of realism" You planning to fight a bunch of bare chested Judoka?

[@ralfhtg1056]

@@HamasPringles No. Still wear the Gi, but strictly not grab it. It is that easy. You Judo people rely way too heavily on grabbing the Gi, it is insane! Nobody wears a Gi in everyday life!

[@HamasPringles]

@@ralfhtg1056 No, but they wear jackets. In the military, everybody wears body armor and jackets; and on the street, it's shirts and jackets, with T-shirts being a 50/50. It's really only in modern MMA where you'd be expecting to fight a shirtless opponent, and that's a very limited context.

[@ralfhtg1056]

@@HamasPringles much fun grabbing shirts and jackets! You either tear apart the shirts or undress your opponent from his jacket. Really great! No-Gi techniques are much more reliable. In Karate we concentrate on jointlock-induced throws. They are exclusively No-Gi techniques. Also the purpose of throws is to cause pain to your opponent. This is much easier to accomplish with No-Gi techniques.

[@benjaminfritzsche8925]

@@ralfhtg1056 When will the Internet understand, that Judo is, and has always been, primarily a Sport! Mutual Welfare and Benefit!. I have been practicing Judo most of my life and never once even thoroughly thought about whether it is effective outside the dojo. In my guess 99 % of Judoka (Worldwide) just don't care.

[@frankking781]

Olympics are a disgrace; Breakdancing?.

[@clacicle]

Yes, there was some silly stuff being done. But, real breakdancing is amazing and requires a tremendous amount of skill.

[@teovu5557]

Raygun is breaking and breaking is ray gun. Lol