2 Months off Kratom! Rambling!

[@mmcwilliams1010]

Your videos are great brother. Thanks you for these. You are an inspiration

[@StrongKeithJ]

Thank you brother! That means a lot!

[@jlav9594]

I think its just nice to have someone to relate too.

[@StrongKeithJ]

I agree! I always feel the same way when people comment. There are so many of us.

[@reedmak77]

Keep going brother! You're doing awesome! 🙏 God bless you!

[@StrongKeithJ]

Thank you very much! 🙌

[@StrongKeithJ]

God bless you!

[@GreatOne514]

I swear all the experiences are mirrored. I knew you were at 2 months too. Congrats homie! Y ya tu sabes im right behind you ;)

[@StrongKeithJ]

Gracias! We're in it together brother! 🤜🤛 Congrats to you!

[@StrongKeithJ]

Everybody has basically the same story brother. Some moments are more intense than others, but we're all so similar.

[@ashleysmashley444]

Thank you. I appreciate the updates

[@ashleysmashley444]

I decided to start to taper. I was doing 4-5 doses a day that were around 6-8 g each… I cut down to 3 doses a day and I am going to start weighing my doses to cut back the amount of grams I am taking each day. Thank you for your videos they are helping me with this process

[@StrongKeithJ]

You're welcome. I appreciate you watching!

[@restoringtheremnant8315]

Thank you for sharing brother. I'm currently doing a taper and then plan on jumping off for good next Friday. Your videos have been really helpful. I appreciate your honesty.

[@StrongKeithJ]

Than you for watching! You're welcome 😊 I'm happy for you!

[@brute9867]

hey man ive been on it for a couple of years. trying to lower the dose and increase time between dosing. experiencing eyes tearing up and like runny nose. When in withdrawals i dont feel like moving my body, sluggish. I think i do about 30 grams a day. Getting organized and planning. U give me good energy fr. God bless Jesus is King

[@StrongKeithJ]

Jesus is King brother! I'm glad I can give you guys energy! Early withdrawals were always runny nose and watery eyes and yawning and sneezing. Then at night it got rough. But it's rough at night for a week. Then your body starts healing itself. Low energy for a couple of weeks, but if you stay away from everything, your body heals itself. God created us with the ability to naturally heal most ailments, and that's what happens brother. 🙏

[@theadambragg]

Appreciate you bro. Keep it up

[@StrongKeithJ]

Thank you brother 🤜🤛

[@Weareeverywhere14]

Congrats, Keith. Im staying strong too brother, thanks a lot to your videos. It aint been easy, but closing in on 3 weeks

[@StrongKeithJ]

Heck yeah! You are almost on the other side! You're doing great! Thank you. 🙏

[@ChillingWithMel22]

That is awesome that you made it two months. Thanks for the updates.

[@StrongKeithJ]

Thank you! 🙏

[@michaelcash5797]

I’ve never done Kratom but this was really good to listen to!

[@StrongKeithJ]

Thanks bro

[@infinitybeyond1089]

DONT DO IT!. SMOKE A JOINT EAT A GU.MIE. DRINK. ANYTHING BUT KRATOM!

[@StrongKeithJ]

True

[@yajy4501]

Congrats! It takes time but life gets so much better over all when you quit. Kratom can make a few hours feel good but in my experience it comes at the expense of months or even years of feeling off most of the time.

[@StrongKeithJ]

Exactly! 💯

[@Zach-ls1if]

Thank you for the motivational video. I’m down to one capsule per day. Yesterday was two, three the day before, etc. a few times today I thought about taking a large dose, but I didn’t. I’ve been a little antsy but I’m trying to remind myself why I want to quit.

[@StrongKeithJ]

You're welcome! And you have more self discipline than me. You're doing it! When you finally quit it will be so worth it!

[@AkiraSudoko]

I've been telling myself I'm going to quit for about a year now, and I fail to even try. Im scared tbh, your videos are extremely helpful. I'm down from 80g/day to 10g/day... 2 in AM, 2 after work, and 6 before bed. The restless leg at night has been a regular thing for me for months now, even when im not tapering.

[@StrongKeithJ]

Tbh of you're used to the restless legs, just quit bro. That will go away in 2 weeks tops! I'm sure sooner! You're ready. If you've had the discipline to get down from 80g a day to 10g a day, you'll be great when you quit!

[@Weareeverywhere14]

I jumped CT after years off 100 gpd 3 weeks ago. It gets better. Not every day is great but itll be better. Keep active to help with RLS. Mega-dose Vitamin C powder helped a ton. Take Magnesium at night too

[@StrongKeithJ]

@@Weareeverywhere14 Great advice!

[@AkiraSudoko]

@@StrongKeithJ thank you guys! Today is Day 1...I can't promise anything because I still have to work, etc, but I've decided to at least try for real. I'll check in daily, just putting it out there and having people routing for me is a great feeling. Last dose was at 10pm yesterday.

[@Weareeverywhere14]

@AkiraSudoko you got this. Keep. I took a whole bunch of supplements, but mega dosing Vitmain C was huge to help relieve discomfort. Stay strong, it get so much better mentally, physically, mentally, spiritually, I promise you that.

[@gracemurrayart]

Inspiring 👏🙏

[@StrongKeithJ]

Thank you very much 🙌

[@temporaryscars]

I am an infrequent user of Kratom. Maybe five or six grams every three to five days. Thinking of giving it up since I only see stories of addiction, hair loss and other issues. So far I've only had positive experiences with it, but maybe I should quit while I'm ahead.

[@StrongKeithJ]

I would say quit for 1 or 2 weeks. See how you feel. If you feel off, can't sleep, you feel a little bad. That would be a good indication it's not helping you.

[@temporaryscars]

​@@StrongKeithJthat's a great idea. I recently ran out so it's probably a good time to give it a go! Glad to see you're doing so well.

[@StrongKeithJ]

@@temporaryscars Great time! Thank you very much!

[@MidgetManny]

dang! that kratom krazy, brah!

[@StrongKeithJ]

It can be. You take it once or twice, lower dose, seems like nothing. Seems like a chill little buzz that’s way better for you than pills or H or fentanyl. But it can grab you. It’s all about us. Kratom is just once drug in a bunch of other drugs that have the potential to cause harm. It’s just up to us to control our own body.

[@raduarfloe8528]

Awesome, congrats again man! So need to make a plan. I think that’s very important now that I think about it. I have quit other stuff before and the plan part made it possible. Quick question. Did you take any vitamins when in withdrawal? I am thinking about this now and I think some amount of vitamin c and d might help.

[@StrongKeithJ]

Thank you brother! A plan is necessary! It will not take away the pain you go through, but it will provide structure. I was taking Liquid IV, heavy duty vitamin C all day, Magnesium, multi vitamin, vitamin D. I got the runs pretty bad around day 3, and it lasted a few weeks. So liquid iv or Gatorade is your friend.

[@dontbefooled132]

Super crazy

[@ronmexico79]

Congratulations brother, this is something to be proud of! Tired of battling this beast.. anyway, do you drink any coffee or energy drinks? Ive noticed i drink alot more caffiene since i started 3 years ago...

[@StrongKeithJ]

When I was using kratom, I drank 2-3 Monsters everyday. I really craved it! The first month I quit, I would drink a tea in the morning that had caffeine. I have been drinking more caffeine, but I notice I'll crash in the pm a little bit. So I've slowed down and I have either pre workout or one energy drink a day.

[@StrongKeithJ]

Thank you brother

[@scottboy]

Keith, you ever feel like you should be taking more risks, doing more? Like you aren't doing enough? This isn't a personal thing, right now in my eyes, you're going at it rn and handling life and in control, like you deserve to be here. Right now I feel like im not handling shit. Like im not really meant to be here. Im not saying i want to be unalive or anything lol, i really want to live and be here. I just look around and see others living life like their roll on this earth is to live their life handle it. But my role role on this earth is to be an observer. I dont want to be that way. I constantly have the feeling of not doing what i need to do looming over me, im not taking enough risks, or doing what i need to do to be a respectable functional adult. It feels like i have imposter syndrome, and not in a specific sense, but in a general all around sense. I have been severely addicted to kratom for years im so tired of it. I feel the best way to describe kratom addiction is "the ultimate time waste." Kratom addiction is a great way to waste your life. I used to experience the occasional "chills" when hearing songs, i used laugh uncontrollably and cry tears of laughter, a few times i cried tears of joy, I've been mesmerized, I've been in Awe, i've had profound feelings when reading or watching movies, I've had epiphanies, I've cared deeply. All that was before i was addicted to kratom, my kratom addiction takes that all away in such a subtle nonchalant way, it's hard to describe I haven't spoken such words, or even acknowledged such a deeply important feeling in years. Yet as i type this now, this should be giving me some sort of epiphany. This should be a life changing realization. But on kratom, it's just words. I'm tapering now, 30 gps to 8 so far. I hope i stick with it so my future self won't die in despair and regret after lying to myself all the way to death bed. Sorry buddy if you are wondering "wtf is this shit i just read", just know im over her wondering "wtf did is this shit i just typed?" Lol

[@StrongKeithJ]

I'm not wondering wtf you're typing at all. I had the same feelings for years. You describe kratom addiction perfectly. Ultimate time waste sounds right. We are so comfortable when we are on kratom, our so we think, that everything else suffers. Our emotions, our physical health, our love life, songs don't sound the same, etc. When I first quit I couldn't stop listening to music, it sounded incredible. I've gotten the chills multiple times at church, or hearing someone sing. I know what you mean about taking risks. I think deep inside the biggest risk we need to take is quitting. We know it will be hard and a long process. That's why we feel that way. Once you go through that, you will feel accomplished on the other side, I promise. Then you can focus on other aspects of your life. But if you're down to 8 grams a day, that's awesome! You've had the will power to get that low! You should quit now tbh. Prepare for a few weeks of being uncomfortable and little sleep, low energy. Go to the gym, make that a habit, and before you know it you'll be feeling great!

[@infinitybeyond1089]

Your hair feel thinker. I heard it grows back.

[@StrongKeithJ]

Mine is still thin. Genetics. 😭

[@petergriffin680]

It’s hard to quit I just like it so much. It’s not like the weak ass Reddit people who say it’s like heroin withdrawal though, lmao. It’s just like the worst boredom and anxiety

[@StrongKeithJ]

It's more than boredom and anxiety brotha, the restless legs and back whipped me harder than anything. But yeah heroin withdrawal is I'm sure way harder! How much do you use now?

[@petergriffin680]

@@StrongKeithJ I never noticed the physical stuff, but I also have only been using for like a year. I use about 8 grams of powder a day. Used to do the extracts and that’s how I got hooked

[@petergriffin680]

@@StrongKeithJ actually I take that back. I’ve experienced some nausea and joint pain when quitting, but it’s easier for me to cope with that than to cope with the mental stuff

[@StrongKeithJ]

@petergriffin680 Yeah our body just needs time to get back to normal.

[@nickshv8727]

Does your job require high concentration and focus? I'm on my day 8 now (12 including relapse on day 5 initially), eat a lot of supplements and different vitamins, feeling good phisically. But I cannot concentrate on my work and don't have motivation, I'm software engineer and what do I need now is FOCUS, CHILL and MENTAL ENERGY... Have no idea how to get this. Going to the gym almost every day and I would go every day if I would not work... I'm not in the god stuff, so will pray aliens, or matrix creator maybe, just joking

[@StrongKeithJ]

Lol pray, meditate, just something spiritual is my advice. It was very hard for me to concentrate as well, my work suffered four a few weeks. But that's the process. It doesn't happen overnight, and if you throw yourself into whatever task needs to be done, even if you can't focus very good, that's better than not doing it at all. Everything will gradually get better, even your focus.

[@StrongKeithJ]

I do a good amount of paperwork, but your job sounds like you need to focus more for sure.