$200 55 Hp Parts Motor Runs Like a Champ but has Idle Issues. The Evinrude Saga Continues.

[@davekimbler2308]

Like I said crankcase seals the bottom could be the bad one and check the fuel pump vacuum, it might have a small hole in the diaphragm and pissing fuel into the block ! That would cause the high rev in neutral . Good luck 👍

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey Dave. Thanks again buddy ! I'll check that.

[@Fireship1]

My vote is also for bad reeds. I would also add a spin on fuel filter with a water separator to make sure all the work you put into cleaning the carbs don’t have to be repeated soon.Today’s gasoline is crap and attracts water like crazy. The saga continues! Looking forward to next time!

[@ct1762]

bad reeds cannot do this!

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Thanks again for tuning in! I'll look in to that. Stay tuned !

[@hookednrolling2009]

Buy rec fuel no water in fuel my boat sat for a yr ran it no problem until the tank started leaking after 38 yrs original if it sit long don’t buy car gas ⛽️

[@Fireship1]

@@hookednrolling2009 I wish we had ethanol free gas in New Jersey. I’d gladly buy it for my boat and power equipment. Sadly you can’t find it anywhere.

[@phillipedwards5562]

LOVED THE OLD STARCRAFT ALUMINUM BOATS. I've been looking for a 18' model I could afford around Pensacola but they are all out of my price range. I feel like I've missed the boat this time around.

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Wow seems like I just saw one somewhere around here. Cheap too! Check out craigslist, offerup and facebook marketplace in this area. It's not that far. Thanks again for tuning in!

[@MikeSmith-yy2gq]

Jim wallace is correct ! He is amazing,been trying to get him to move to Alabama,I've got him a bay waiting.He is neat ,clean does the job right. We love watching his videos!

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hahaha. Thanks again Mike. Appreciate it. Stay tuned !

[@paulpetersen9755]

Very nice bass, glad to know you let him go ,big bass make lots of other bass. Nice job on the 55 sounds great im sure you will get the idle fixed, if anyone can it's you.

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey Paul. Thanks ! Really appreciate you tuning in. Stay tuned !

[@rockfishsteve9173]

also had a motor that would die in a long idle zone tried to eliminate all possible air leaks, , that gas tank pick up is two pieces, got the same one, pulled out white tube out, applied Aviation Form-a gasket ( fuel proof), put back in, no possible air leak at low idle, next changed hoes connection on tank to Mercury type connector but universal sprayless connector is good too , then removed connection at motor and went directly to fuel pump.

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Thanks for watching and commenting. Good point. I covered the tank/hose/primer bulb and connections a couple of videos. The primer bulb was going flat. I build my own using fuel line, it's been staying good and firm. Thanks again & Stay tuned !

[@Showmethefish]

I've got a 55 on the rack now I ended up with that I know has the same issues . glad I watched your video so you can guinnie pig for me...lol... I'm gonna do a complete seal job... Good luck..

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Thanks for tuning in. Hahaha. Yeah seal it up, then look at your ignition. Stay tuned !

[@shanemartin5697]

Another day at the office boss aka "the evinrude" I need this this n that done 🤣 and all you wanna do is fish! Lol

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hahaha. Gotta have some fun too! Thanks again for tuning in!

[@L2fish]

Love them Rattletraps

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Yeah man! Thanks for tuning in. Check out my newer videos! Had a good season with the Rattletrap! Thanks again & Stay tuned !

[@shawnsingleton3034]

I’m leaning toward reed valves . I’ve seen them on an outboard that got hot lose their temper . Still may look close but not enough to keep them close .

[@ct1762]

bent or chipped reeds always spit back fuel, and it cant rev any higher than the amount of fuel being put in, no matter the shape of the reeds

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey Shawn. Thanks again for tuning in. Stay tuned for the next episode on those reeds!

[@ct1762]

I'd go over a quick compression test again after running that air silencer without those plugs in, but check the voltage on the sensor coil and the charge coil . if the sensor coil is off, it will throw the timing out. if it was an air leak (crank seals too) it would spit and lean-sneeze at idle. the flywheel slipping and sheared key is another possibility. you will get there!

[@davekimbler2308]

Valid point ! But that wouldn’t cause the high rev in neutral !

[@ct1762]

@@davekimbler2308 right it cannot, but i like to check the whole ignition out to make sure everything is in spec. a good way to eliminate stuff! the only time i've seen this happen a few times is when the throttle butterfly/s are stuck open partially, or a sheared flywheel key, or the spark advance lever sticks.

[@davekimbler2308]

@@ct1762 sheered keys will act that way , I myself am leaning towards a bad lower crank seal but without being there it’s a crap shoot at best ! Lol. When I get a outboard in I ASSUME it needs EVERYTHING and start on top .

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

The silencer was only missing one plug and I taped the other one. In the next episode, I checked the comp again, 170 psi x 2. It was 170/160 when I first got it, but the bottom has loosened up and came up to match the top. I was hoping it would. Top crank seal has been ordered. I cant get this thing to lean sneeze even if I try! Hahaha. Thanks again !

[@ct1762]

@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 yea thats an odd one. and the flywheel key was checked? i've seen them idle terribly when the piston skirts are shot as well, but compression was fine of course wouldn't explain the high idle. they did have issues with these 55's... i forgot what but they upgraded the pistons i believe in 1980 with the 60hp and carburetion slightly i believe

[@thewrenchgarage7986]

I had the same problem with an evinrude that I had a few years ago and I fixed the issue after messing with it for a few weeks by dumping it and dropped my nuts and stepped up to a merc much nicer motors and not clunky.

[@ct1762]

whats clunky were the 4 cyl merc 40/50 motors lol. these 2 cyl loopers are light and powerful... the opposite of clunky

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Thanks again for tuning in. Yeah, thats the problem, I dont have enough nuts to drop! Hahaha Thanks again !

[@dbcooper692]

Have you had your covid vaccine shot yet? I got my first shot today and I feel fine. I would guess your old enough to be eligible!! Don't want to lose you, I love your channel!! LOL!!

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Yeah I got mine on tuesday. Felt a little loopy which was better than feeling sick! Hahaha Thanks again Coop.

[@rockfishsteve9173]

one other experience was with a 84'' 70hp, new to me motor, put new fuel pump on, wouldn't idle long and die, put old pump back on, all good, try' to help

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Yeah it can drive you crazy! Thanks again !

[@omcoutboardboy4421]

Got the 250 75 running needs some work when I start it revs like crazy and the carbs are not even open when I start it the timing isn’t advanced either but it’s running on 3 so I’m happy so far.

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hahaha. Yeah I know the feeling! Hang in there! Thanks again !

[@jayfisher5559]

You are an inspiration as an example of perseverance in life. Thanks for that! I don't know much, but when my chainsaw runs real fast it is about to run out of gas. I think you should try another tank/hose setup?WTF Jay Fisher

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Thanks for tuning in. Yeah, I've been through the tank/fuel line/connections and a new primer bulb a few vids back. It was going flat but works great now. Thanks again & Stay tuned !

[@jayfisher5559]

@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 Here's a word of wisdom from a friend of mine. " When I was young I thought that when I'm old there will not be anything I can do that I can't do better now. It is not true! Now I can piss in two directions at once." All the best, Jay

[@gustavolizarraga4322]

What is that sneezing sound you here just after starting the motor? min 13:55 and 14:11. My '71, 9.5HP evinrude outboard does just like that. Thanks for showing us how to put this great motors back to shape.

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. That sound is driving me crazy! Hahaha. At first I thought it was the starter, then I thought it was the reed valves honking at me. Then someone said it was the bearings in the starter, so I was right the first time and its getting worse. HELP! Hahaha. Thanks for watching and commenting. Stay tuned for the next episode!

[@Showmethefish]

Your carb rebuild tools ( looks like you borrowed them out of my tool box).. Lol.. I sware I use the same ones ...lol...

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hahaha. What ever works! Thanks for tuning in!

[@daviddriscoll1798]

Pray to the Outboard God's!!!

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hahaha I did! Should be in the next episode ! Thanks again & Stay tuned !

[@rockfishsteve9173]

if you decide to replace reeds, look at CCMS reeds, advertised as improving idle and better hole shoots, i love mine

[@ct1762]

CCMS makes awesome reeds. amazing how much better they start

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

I probably wont mess with it, but thanks for the suggestion!

[@rockfishsteve9173]

when cranking and looking at reeds, fuel pump not squirting much fuel, check your video .

[@ct1762]

the fuel pump only puts out about 3/4 of a pound of fuel pressure when cranking. hardly alot!

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Yes. The tank wasn't hooked up. Thanks for tuning in!

[@hawkeyemarine]

Nice Bass! I noticed your fuel bulb laying sideways. Have your tried keeping it upright. Maybe the check valve is closing off like its being sucked closed and the engine is getting a higher concentration of air to fuel. Also, did you check the jets in the bottom of the fuel bowl?

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Thanks for tuning in. Yes, my tank, fuel line, connections, and new primer bulb were the first thing I eliminated a few episodes back. All is good. I did actually zip tie the bulb in a upright position at one point but it was no help due to a slight air leak at the brass connection on the tank. My carbs are smokin clean, the high speed orifices/jets in the bowls are wide open and the evinrude rips at wot. I'm hitting 34 mph on the gps. No issues there. Thanks again for watching and commenting. Stay tuned !

[@smc65714]

Gotta be isolated to top cyc.,check comp .again! Sounds it’s Sucking air into top cyc intake,butterfly pivot leaking?Head scratcher for sure !!!!!!

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Yeah It will drive ya crazy! Hahaha Thanks again !

[@pdaddyblake]

I'm thinking crankshaft seals could be the ones from cylinder to cylinder I'm trying to remember a good way to test them 😥👍

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

I've ordered the top seal, sure hope I don't have to do the bottom one. Big pain in the azz! Thanks again !

[@pdaddyblake]

And dont forget the two in the center biggg pain in the azzz 😥😥👍 but I'm sure there's a way to test them the top and bottom u can see with soap and water with a pressure test but the center one u cant see if I remember

[@pdaddyblake]

I thank one of them I had the reeds out and covered the seal with fuel and spun the crank slowly and made sure it didnt disappear and when I did the bottom seals I flipped it over and did the same but that was 30 years ago with no book there's probably a better test I didnt no about back then way before internet 👍

[@unsaltedlife5998]

Watching this again on a rainy Thursday night and noticed that the carburetor brass tune looks a lot different the slow idle part is shorter and the ones on the 40 is that supposed to be like that?

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. I think I know what your referring to. And yes it's suppose to be like that. These carbs have 0 adjustments on them. The slow speed idle circuit has fixed orifices or jets that are covered by a screw. Thanks again !

[@joeevens1368]

It may well be more than one cause, but that fuel pump is is waving red flags. It's talking to you. One red flag is the revving up and down. that indicates fuel going thru the diaphragm into the block. Confirmed by the tiny splatter of fuel pumping from hose while cranking. That hose should be gushing , not spitting. If you stop the fuel into the block problem, the low speed adjustment on the carb will likely be too lean. Opening that low speed needle a half turn or so should fix that hesitation.....Or not. Heh heh. Suspect air leak at old carb gasket as well.

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Thanks Joe. I get what your saying but, the tank wasn't connected when I was looking at the reeds and that splatter of fuel was what was left in the pump. Unfortunately these type carbs have 0 adjustments. Its basically sealed with a slow speed orifice/jet, no needle to adjust which makes me mad, but thats the way it is. Thanks again for the words of wisdom. Stay tuned !

[@akaray3524]

Maybe a can of Raid will get those bugs out lol

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hahaha. Thanks for tuning in!

[@mwatkins2464]

I bet you that you’re having ring problems. Not sealing and allowing gas in combustion chamber as it’s detonating letting more gas to go around the rings when it should be filling the chamber on the down stroke. I don’t think it’s the reeds , it’s not acting like a bad reed by spitting up. It has to be in the combustion chamber in my opinion. I wonder if the ring gaps have moved and lined up causing a problem. Good luck buddy

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey Thanks man! I hope your wrong. Hahaha. At 170 psi x 2. It was 170/160 when I first got, but the bottom loosened up to match the top. I was hoping it would. I'm starting to lean towards the stator coil/drive coil/charge coil or whatever you want to call it. It's only gotten worse since day one. Typical hard starting, rough idle but still runs strong until it completely dies. Meanwhile I'll do the cheap stuff first! Hahaha. Thanks for the words of wisdom. Stay tuned !

[@mwatkins2464]

@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 good luck buddy

[@MrCharles504]

Did you ever replace the broken shift/throttle cable you mentioned videos ago?? My motor did the same thing with idling crazy high. Take a look at you timing advance to make sure.

[@MrCharles504]

By the trigger next to flywheel

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Yeah I swapped the control box with the one that came with the 60hp. Thanks again for watching and commenting. Stay tuned !

[@unsaltedlife5998]

Going back to basics the case is getting fuel from somewhere so I would think if the carburetors are fine then it has to be the fuel pump has a small hole in the diagram letting fuel into the case. I don’t remember if you’re engine had a fuel primer they can leak. But it seems like you have more than just one issue going on. Is there a way to do a leak down test on the block to see if the seals are bad? I know you can get a air chuck that fits a spark plug hole we used to use it to change valve seals without removing the heads.

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Last time I had a hole in the diaphragm was on a 9.9/15hp, and you could feel it at high speed. This thing still has the manual choke run by a solenoid. I've ordered the top crank seal. Stay tuned for the next episode ! Thanks again !

[@unsaltedlife5998]

@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 did you check the throttle cable to see if it returning it also maybe hanging up

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

@@unsaltedlife5998 Yeah. its returning.

[@pdaddyblake]

Do you like crappie fishing it's about that time when they start biting 😁

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Yeah they've been hitting ! I've been hoping to get some lights for night fishing for them before the season is over. Just haven't gotten there yet. Thanks again & Stay tuned !

[@theluckystrike6371]

👀 👍🏻👍🏻

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Whaaats Up! Thanks again as always!

[@TimsWorkshopTJY]

Maybe the spark plugs for that motor is not a good match

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Champion QL77J4C & L77J4C is what it calls for. I've had both sets in it. Thanks again & Stay tuned !

[@beercan64grissom15]

HAMMER DOWN NEIGHBOR

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hahaha. Yeah baby!

[@johnhaynes9133]

Hey i have a 79' 55hp evinrude but it doesn't have a telltale hole where can i drill one at to have one. Id like to drill two one before the thermostat and one after the thermostat just so i can see when thermostat opens

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Thanks for tuning in. Are you sure its a 79? Maybe it would be easier to just get a new exhaust cover plate. You can probably pick one up cheap on ebay. I wouldn't know where to begin drilling it without doing some homework on the subject. Thanks again & Stay tuned !

[@hookednrolling2009]

Top carb gasket mr T O O

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Thanks. I'll double check that. Really appreciate you watching and commenting. Stay tuned !

[@lucatimer1234]

2.12...34 miles or knots??

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

mph on gps. Thx

[@LivetofishOutboardRepair]

Could it be the lower crankshaft seal?

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hope not! Hahaha. Thanks for tuning in!

[@Swanny383]

Crankcase seal under the flywheel ?

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

It's ordered ! Thanks for watching and commenting. Stay tuned !

[@bubbleseverywhere194]

What app is that on your phone?

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. It's google maps. Thanks for tuning in!

[@beercan64grissom15]

MAYBE INSIDE FUEL LINE COLLAPSES

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Solid fuel line.

[@jimmydunn3962]

Is motor still for sale for 200

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Thanks for tuning in. No, $200 is what I paid for it. And I sold it for more! Thanks again !

[@danielrobert7181]

This motor is possessed, time to stuff the bonnet full of garlic cloves (avoid the cheap chinese ones) and call in the voodoo exorcist !!!

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hahaha. Or maybe just pray to the Outboard Gods! Thanks again for Tuning in!

[@beercan64grissom15]

WHEN IS THE FISH FRY

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

We just did a fish so I let that one go.

[@Showmethefish]

Be best to just do a break down and reseal job... It's old most likely got multiple minute leaks all over...

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Thanks for watching and commenting. Yeah I know what you mean. Thanks again and Stay tuned !

[@BeamerTheFox]

round an round we goes where she stops only the evinrude knows lol

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hahaha. Yep. Thanks again !