200cc Shifter Kart Build: First Fire!

This week in our homemade shifter kart build, we hear the Lifan 200cc engine run for the first time! Engine wiring, CDI problems, installing an electrical fuel pump, ignition and starter switches has been tricky, but hearing our racing kart fire up for the first time made it all worth it.
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[@vortex812]

It's just a low grade shipping oil to prevent rust. You must change it immediately because it does not provide proper lubrication and is not suitable for wet clutches

[@Cody_d_OWD]

Steve'sSpeedShop beat me to it lol 👍

[@georgebarton6098]

Steve'sSpeedShop amen brother................

[@stevebarnette]

Steve'sSpeedShop Since watching these videos and hearing the guys talk about changing the oil immediately, I’ve always wondered the reason why. Thanks for the explanation!

[@Kendalon]

Figure these guys would know about this kind of thing. Especially Ike. He should know.

[@afarley17]

Exactly right Steve

[@chasemerchant5744]

I’ve been here since the old shop & every time Ike throws together some random stuff & it works i get so hype

[@chasemerchant5744]

Moneymaker1939 negative remember that shed??

[@gamebros6850]

Chase Merchant ii

[@mattharvey2031]

Chase Merchant

[@chasemerchant5744]

Game Bros ??

[@davidcowgill6073]

i think DAD told him he couldn't store his toys in the garage so they moved all of the projects to the shed

[@drew657]

Your hand grinding/fabbing skills never cease to amaze (horrify?) me. It'll be fine.

[@Josher126]

Drew never doubt the grinding capabilities my good sir

[@dream2sea]

JPLX Labelle 😂😂😂

[@noktrnl123]

I have the same motor but the 250 on a custom kart. For the fuel pump I ran a T close to the carb with a line that went straight up a few inches and returned to the tank. It stopped my fuel leak with the pump. Also a quick port job with a rejet and cheap CDI will make a huge difference. The best would be to get a mikuni carb with an accelerator pump. And make an ignition cut for better clutchless shifts. Can't wait to see the results

[@Aaron-bk2ue]

Get yourself a girl that looks at you like John looks at his 200cc.

[@wesleyronne4685]

That was the mintest comment i've seen today.

[@michaelmccants3232]

Hello how are you doing today my name Michael

[@christopherpoucher483]

They ship with vegetable oil in the case small amounts Chinese are cheap!

[@matthewbensemann6319]

Always feels as though i'm waiting months for a CarsandCameras video, Finally I get my 19 minutes of happiness.

[@dream2sea]

Matthew Bensemann ❤️

[@fletchersfixit6358]

Love your videos at school right now but I am still going to watch it

[@dream2sea]

Fletcher's Fixit Hey, it’s educational!

[@ghomerhust]

sounds peppy, excited to see how it puts the power down!

[@SIXPACFISH]

Isaac is the voice of reality. Three wheels and 90 MPH = Death. That will Not be fine! Yay, Isaac!

[@butchs.4239]

There have been three wheel LSR vehicles driven in excess of 700 mph.

[@draggonhedd]

That thing is running lean as hell! Do some tuning before you melt the piston. Also, you really shouldn't run it on that shipping oil. It's for rust prevention only.

[@wi11y1960]

Love the camera slap for day change. Its a great channel, looking forward to your upcoming vids.

[@draiceeofficialmusic150]

Dooooo ittt!!!!!! Take the plastic off the trike and see what it does. And you should put the 200 against the 670💪💪

[@austinpatrick2682]

Y'all are gonna catch some grass on fire with that exhaust! Lol

[@austinpatrick2682]

Anddddd just as soon as I typed that comment you said that in the video....

[@ejs6097]

10:15 John has his first realization of the monster you guys are creating!?! Love the totally real reaction, with a slightly worried crackle in his voice! I think he almost fainted LMAO! This has been a great build so far! : )

[@kyletisdale4310]

There's a screen type oil filter in that motor don't forget to clean it when changing the oil. Also it has a wet clutch so use motorcycle oil. My Lifan 200 Enduro did 72mph flat out, ran out of gearing not power. Hope this helps I love the build.

[@zanecrocker9091]

Im gonna be building a 400whp 4-500kg drift street buggy and maybe a similar gokart to you guys, im in love with your channel tbh

[@EpilepsyWarning]

love the new intro please keep using it

[@knollmeyer007]

Here here!

[@220motorsports6]

not the inside magnet,theyre for charging or lights. the outside magnet is for the coil.

[@esqueue]

I'm sure that it was a quick and unintentional error.

[@wiebe9999]

If you work that much on engines ,its a real fault

[@crazycal8669]

Was going to say that!

[@robweitlauf1587]

your neighbors must love you

[@mattwilliams4919]

220 Motorsports depends on the engine some are outside and some are inside

[@tristangalati5344]

Intro was dope

[@zkipa]

that's a badass cart! looks sick can't wait to see it run

[@oscarzt1652]

2:10 is isaac bob ross? _"blue hwhite"_

[@isatntt]

Yes I am bob ross (My name is isaac too)

[@bonzolo2358]

Oscar Thorpe bob Ross gives me so many reasons to live

[@boostaddict_]

Rip He still streams on Twitch

[@MrTheHillfolk]

Don’t forget your (1:30) flyhwheel

[@brockbain8656]

pthalo blue

[@xibidit]

I had a mechanical pump on a cam on the rear axle from a volvo b18 engine. cost like 10 dollars. it stops pumping when the carb is full and a little bit of pressure is building in the line. so when you are standing still you prime the carb by hand and when you roll it will always have fuel!

[@gav3ris147]

i wish i could run every fun kart (everything you build) you guys have and build

[@WestleyBates]

That thing sounds sick

[@josephworthley2191]

I dig your channel btw! That kart looks aggressive with that motor on it.

[@Skwisgar2322]

*seller says change oil immediately* "Hmm, well, I don't know why they say that, so I'll just completely ignore that instruction" Very "Cars'n'Cameras" attitude.

[@dream2sea]

Skwisgar2322 It’ll be fine.

[@calvarycustoms6681]

TammySue PattyPan Took the words outta mah mouth, Miss. ;)

[@domsterling8573]

Neat

[@mikej.2803]

$ is their replacement for ignorance.. But..? Here I am enjoying these two as they stumble through their ideas,builds and fabrications:) Reminds me of my brother and myself. In the BEST way.. Envying their comrodery.

[@jonah.c.strickland8400]

@@mikej.2803 Definately more $ than brains but its America and f%$# what they think haha

[@byron7165]

"Record on how fast you can die!" Sounds perfect to inscribe on a headstone dude.

[@crankysports]

dude that sounds sweet! Can't wait to see it driving! Sounds amazing!

[@corey4c105]

Change oil before you put it under load.

[@Will-fr5du]

Yall been doin this what? Five years? And ya still havent bolted down that bench grinder? Or the vise for that matter lol, i dont see how you deal with it!

[@CarsandCameras]

It’s kind of a staple of the channel now

[@knollmeyer007]

Use staples if you have to John.

[@jlucasound]

As per agreement, they cannot drill any holes in the benches. Haven't you guys been watching?

[@mikej.2803]

"C" clamps...2 sided tape...,velcro...,bubblegum...! Mount that F-n Grinder or else ? :/

[@bmanjohnson51]

I find it funny that when you have captions on and there is a scene of them grinding, the captions say “(music)”. I think it means something...

[@dudeok73]

That necklace tho, Isaac's a savage!

[@nashguy207]

This build is awesome Can't wait till its finished and see it running down the road its going to be so cool. It should blow the dragster away I would think. Not sure about ike's 72 mph depends on gearing any word about when you guys will be on velocity channel yet??? Inquiring minds want to know. LOL

[@MitchMAH]

if you run that oil the world will end. don't do it

[@MitchMAH]

that and it's just for shipping and storage

[@Spacebastard]

looking good guys. yall gave me all kinds of ideas for my build. love you guys. like real man love....lol.

[@Andrewlang90]

I dig the fully adjustable bench grinder. It moves on the table to match the contour of your grinding 😜 lol

[@cigarr0000]

CDI means Capacitor Discharge Ignition

[@skylerwebster9693]

I’ll be fine🤙🏻

[@wecatchfish9531]

LOL I love Ike’s face at 15:29 in response to johns question about fuel return 😂

[@dukecityminibikes7701]

The Chinese motors are becoming more n more popular, the parts on the net are cheap and the builds can be endless...... I can't get enough of my horizontal shafted engines but these are just as sick!!!!!! Props John..

[@braxtonriggsriggs2119]

You all should start doing mini bike monday

[@userAlexVezos]

Man you need a mini lathe!

[@MatthewSmith193]

I love the new intro guys, please don't get rid of it!

[@johnmattinson3513]

Here I am watching this for the first time, and this is a 5 year old video. Thanks!

[@ropo3000]

you really should change the oil from that engine beacose those oils are just so it stays clean at storage

[@articat568]

ropo_3000 you should learn to spell because

[@ropo3000]

Yelsew Painter yeah i live in finland and i ain't that good at english but everybody gets the point

[@janeames1513]

ropo..good on ya for making a try hard on the internet look stupid..i laughed at that...i think it was a unintentional burn but funny none the less..because everyone assumes english is everyones first language

[@BryanWilson08]

You guys need a motorcycle lift or something to work on. It always looks so painful for you to work crouched on the floor. Anyway - It'll be fine.

[@redneckkarts4282]

Look at the colors on that exhaust oh my god and the flames just a beast

[@jaywalker2213]

GREAT job guy turning out awesome looks like a blast

[@TurboShotIncredible]

Man she sounds real good! Flame-spittin good!

[@Chris-yy7qc]

TurboShotIncredible A lot of sparks, too. Which is usually piston material...

[@rncboy2]

They run it to whatever rpm it goes to an call it a break in run usually tops of 30 mins, how all motorcycle engines are broke in. Also DO NOT PUT CAR OIL IN A MOTORCYCLE ENGINE, they have a wet clutch witch uses a dense oil a 10w30 weight bike oil is a different viscosity as 10w30 car oil the engines use the oil for the clutch and it helps shift i would run honda oil in it non synthetic cause thats what they call for

[@trifiiniti9357]

Kylee Bates that engine should be dry clutch. My older brother has one on a mini bike and that’s dry clutch

[@DerKrawallkeks]

I agree with 2redneck, that bikes can use regular car oil with no problem if it's the right viscosity. I'm running some regular car oil in my bike with a wet clutch. But it's not quite right what you said 2redneck, ahout synthetic oil, because if you're using synthetic oil of the right viscosity, the clutch will behave mostly the same. Also there are synthetic motorcycle oils (even tho they're specifically designed for wet clutches and work much better than car oil).

[@noktrnl123]

Trifiiniti it's definitely a wet clutch. Regular oil will cause it to slip. Most regular mini bike have a external centrifical clutch or cvt.

[@noktrnl123]

2redneck car oil has additives and detergents that make the clutch slip. It's better for motors but bad for clutches.

[@DerKrawallkeks]

Okay, thanks. I should change my original comment, because I was sure it's just about the viscosity, but I'll just leave it with your correction down here. Thanks.

[@fader2701]

what a great looking cart!

[@RamenPoweredShitFactory]

That thing is looking and sounding sick!

[@romanzmija5706]

Make an armrest where the engine is so you don’t burn your arm

[@rcmaniac77]

U need tp change the oil because thats the oil that basically has sand in it it grinds the gears to move smoothly atleast in europan 50cc mopeds

[@xibidit]

why would they put sand in the oil to make it smooth? that is just stupid if they did that, nothing gets smooth by sand

[@noahwagner0]

Kristoffer Persson ever heard of beach glass or rocks?, literally gets smooth from sand. So yeah. Things can be made smooth by sand. Think before you write my guy.

[@xibidit]

it does not get SMOOTH it sands down the surface, may be "smooth" to touch but in reality it takes material away not make it "smooth" so you should fucking think before you write. and why manufacturers put sand in an engine has so much to do with beaches and rocks it is mind blowing

[@Tater_Lord]

Kristoffer Persson you sir are very very mistaken some shipping oils do have particulates in that are like sand and that is to fix any bad edges on the gears and to also clean any parts in the engine when you swap out that oil it flushes out most of these particulates. And the analogy from earlier about the beach is correct sea glass is super smooth because of the action of the sand and stones rubbing over it repeatedly this is the point being made.

[@rcmaniac77]

Rhys Aistrope uum. Yes?

[@richardaffonso]

Can't wait to see it move!

[@ryancompton3696]

Here He Goes Again With Them Awesome Editing Transitions.

[@nathangek]

Who thinks this thing will be faster than the drag rail lol

[@crazycal8669]

Yes, change the oil. It is only like $4 for good, new oil and then you can know how old it is, for the next change. And can you get a tachometer for it? And If you turbo it, it will not leak gas from the carb, Or do: Turbo Big Bore Kit Cam Port & Polish Shave The Heads e.t.c. (can you do a spin-the-wheel to chose what up grade to do first?)What other Ideas do you all have? :P

[@theworstgamervr]

This engine been around for a decade, different models and I've nvr heard of any of those parts being available

[@wrenchg3954]

C D I, CAPACITOR DISCHARGE IGNITION. THAT SIMPLE DUDES. NO NEED TO TIE YALLS BRAINS IN A KNOT. AWESOME VIDEO AS USUAL

[@jamesfrye6346]

I love you guys, your channel brings me inspiration. I catch every upload. I'd love to do what yall do daily.

[@FJ80Coop]

Too lean...A fuel cutoff valve installed after the fuel pump can be used to regulate the fuel flow..

[@thegit8698]

Capacitor Discharge Ignition, holy crap i just realised that it looks like I'm first to comment

[@pollyg562]

awesome,cant wait to see next episode

[@truthteller9743]

Love the content boys keep rocking it. It'll be fine

[@johndag694]

Theres no oil in it

[@wyattventures9686]

John Goehring I said the same thing

[@Tater_Lord]

John Goehring it has oil in it, shipping oil but yeah

[@dannyjay7943]

John Goehring not a drop!

[@yaribakker5241]

9:51 DEEZ NUTS ha got iem

[@409streetscene5]

Love the build

[@testerracing1251]

I love your crazy ideasand love watching the cars and cameras grand pri. I'm looking for an older racing cart like this also

[@Hugo-mm5wc]

Well, you have just destroyed your engine

[@Tater_Lord]

Hugster no they haven't not yet anyway

[@Hugo-mm5wc]

But in the long run they have, whit how much dey revved it.

[@TheDaddy187]

i have one of these cdi's with adjustable timing... drop me an adress and some c&c stickers and its yours ;)

[@randomgarage1]

Like there gonna Actually send u an address over youtube for everybody to see. Lol

[@thornmatthew8395]

Love this build! Sounds great!

[@djshnibz]

Awesome video, thanks! This was a good length

[@theirishaxe9405]

Probly not a good idea to rev the crap out of a brand new engine with that shipping oil in it. Or at all. Just shortened the life of that engine. Please build a man sized 4x4 full suspension off road buggy something not kid sized please that would be awesome to see

[@articat568]

John Smith where the money to pay for some fuckin shit like that? You it? You gonna donate it to them? Didn't think so. Johns a college kid and Ike's a mechanic. So that much money to completely build a 4x4 buggy. It'd be easier to by a destroyed jeep, strip it like a trail truck and build a roll cage. And even that's not gonna happen. There's no way dude

[@DetroitMicroSound]

Where did you learn to talk to people? Do you understand how ignorant you sound?

[@theirishaxe9405]

TheDetroitSound he had it coming. Stop crying about it. I just made a suggestion and that dumbass starting cussing and bitching about it. Grow up.

[@blkicemike4857]

I think the 2seater buggy build idea would be great!!! If they built frame with a tube bender or a $500 pre-bent tube kit. I wonder which would be cheaper? Also fab most of their own parts( front suspension, independent rear suspension,et,..). Ike probably bend the tubing himself, he good at that sort of thing. Joh gotten perty'good welding too! The dynamic duo 🤪.. The cost of a project would easily $5-$10k. but it's nice to dream I guess.

[@Customwinder1]

It's not that much to build off roaders.

[@ilikerealflight]

5:27, Ike just about killed me with how casual he asked the question

[@clsearch2003]

I love your videos it always takes my mind of things today I lost 2 nephews to c.p.s because I didn’t qualify so your videos always help

[@dream2sea]

christian ❤️

[@AdamsWorld84]

What a beast!! it sounds great :-) can't wait to see you guys rip some rings in that!!!

[@nitroxunit1]

For the carb over flowing try a tee on the fuel line right before the carb with the tee going back to the tank so when the bowl fills up the fuel can bypass back to the tank.

[@mofoshizknack]

Lots of fun , thanks guys

[@gmcman355crazy]

I must say I love the new intro !!!!!!

[@Sky-qd2mf]

This is my favorite build of them all

[@noahv1916]

Haven’t been exited for a project like this for a while keep it up man wish could build go kart but no welder :(

[@DYLANTRIES]

Hats off to ya for the exhaust job👍

[@weedsmith9317]

Most of it is engine grease for the build. Really sticky and yes you should change it asap. Buy small engines oil and break in with that, then change it again for good measure. Sweet build Guys!

[@davidwibben9886]

Awesome stuff

[@devindunlap5933]

That cdi is called Capacitor Discharge Ignition hence CDI that flywheel produces an ac current that goes to the cdi charging the little capacitors inside the box then quickly discharge to the coil the coil raises the voltage to fire the spark plug. The stator on those engine should make about 40-50 volts ac at idle and when reving as high as 70-80 volts ac. The the red and black wire coming from stator should be power for cdi and the white and blue wire is a pulser wire for cdi, that's the wire that discharges the cdi box. Once the capacitors are charged the pulser wire connected to stator pulses discharging to the coil. With Every rotation of the engine this process is repeated. Hope that clears things up a bit..

[@dehCremus]

That intro is SO satisfying

[@trevorclaar7122]

You guys are frinking incredible

[@robot-chicken4209]

Cool build keep it up

[@christophersanchez2698]

Yooo that intro definitely fits you guys

[@skylerfloyd7657]

I love this show very cool I love the projects that they pick they need to make more episodes come on more episodes

[@JM.Performance]

It's ALIVE!!!

[@tommeaden8219]

Omfg! That sounds amazing!! It reminds me of the Velociraptors out of duracic park

[@Gtimmy13]

3:42 "ou the battery's warm" famous last words

[@nvlitedude]

I would not drive it 120 with the nut cutter switch mount between my legs but I still love you guys! 😱

[@landoncoleman6788]

Love them tires. They look mean

[@roberthoward5015]

Love the sound

[@glendecuir6317]

nice job can't wait

[@Sithhy]

That thing looks pretty crazy *:D*

[@rong4189]

Yeah, responsive! Man, that thing is gonna rip! Was wondering if you couldn't mount a piece of curved sheet metal, or maybe repurpose a section of old ductwork (?), to use as a heat barrier/firewall between you and the motor. Hard to say, might look cool too though. Anyway, awesome build guys!

[@bukyld]

Despite doing a whole lotta things differently from how I’d do them, what I like about you blokes is that there’s no BS. Just chuck it together. As we say in Australia, “She’ll be right mate.” Great entertainment. Oh and Do ya think you could get Ike to say, “ Are you boys whackin off in my caravan?”😂 Keep em comin fellas.