200kg lightened GR86 shows amazing touge attack!!〈Hot-Version〉2022

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@緑川暉昌
@緑川暉昌 Жыл бұрын
内側の肉抜きとカーボン化を見るにえげつない軽量化施してるのにパワーに対する接地感が全然損なわれてないのが凄い
@DanteGaia
@DanteGaia Жыл бұрын
This is why i love Japanase custom cars; they focus more on balance, weight, handling, stability and rigidity then on just raw power
@DON-jf2yc
@DON-jf2yc Жыл бұрын
いろんな意見があるけど個人的には速さに特化したこういうコテコテなチューニングカーは本当にかっこいいし大好きだな。 あとこの3人の運転はいつ見ても本当に気持ちがいい!!
@hongchengchang6457
@hongchengchang6457 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the subtitles
@NEO-bx3hm
@NEO-bx3hm Жыл бұрын
ノーマルエンジンをベースに仕上げていくスタイル本当に好き。
@JDub33333
@JDub33333 Жыл бұрын
I really like Revolution's tuning philosophy. Make the car as light as possible while implementing minimal engine modifications to ensure reliability.
@ReskyTuni
@ReskyTuni Жыл бұрын
Agree. Looking back their last FT86 breaking down almost very time, it’s better to keep the engine stock then focus on weight
@漁夫ラレタル
@漁夫ラレタル Жыл бұрын
ドンガラがレギュレーション的にどうなのかと言うところはさておいてドライなら魔王になれるでしょコレwww
@あかさ-s5p
@あかさ-s5p Жыл бұрын
ドリキンは90スープラとか新型のシビックタイプR乗ってる時より86乗ってる時の方が100倍楽しそうで見てるこっちが微笑ましい。笑
@janmillsgibson3225
@janmillsgibson3225 Жыл бұрын
The car gets the lap record at Gunsai, beating 911s, an AMG GTR, R35 GTR and mk2 NSX, and people still think they know better and suggest engine swapping. Daft.
@siokara
@siokara Жыл бұрын
時代進んでも「極軽」が楽しさの秘訣ってことなんかな
@魔弾の射手-k6x
@魔弾の射手-k6x Жыл бұрын
ホンマにこれやと思う
@kazuaw11
@kazuaw11 Жыл бұрын
土屋さんがアメリカでチューニングカーに乗った時に「アメリカのチューニングカーは内装まで綺麗に作ってあって凄い」って言ってたのを思い出しました。
@ハリネズミ-q6h
@ハリネズミ-q6h Жыл бұрын
魅せるための車と早く走るための車は別もんだと思ってます()
@mmn9897
@mmn9897 Жыл бұрын
車はカッコよくないとね
@brandondan1
@brandondan1 2 жыл бұрын
Good info on the GR86! RTV seems to be an issue in JP cars as well, but it's cool to see Revolution break down their philosophy on the car overall. I hope for subtitles soon!
@martindeoliveira5128
@martindeoliveira5128 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for adding English subtitles 🙌🏻
@riowwwch4140
@riowwwch4140 Жыл бұрын
素敵な配信ありがとうございます。 特に谷口さんのインプレッションの時の映像が、とてつもなく気持ち良かったです。 車の完成度を最大限に引き出して操縦する谷口さんの技術がたまらんです。 車の行きたい方向に吸い込まれるような映像に見えました。 本当に最高です❤
@anhiirr
@anhiirr 11 ай бұрын
Just amazed at how far this platform has already come in regards to implementations to mitigating all of the limiting factors of maximum speed/grip ratios. The front suspension/adjustability and stabilizer mounts just the overall potential this platform offers to each build/tuner. It really showcases how much potential there really is here when people are already this passionate/determined to offer something worthwhile this quick into a cars platform/induction.
@RoadconePhoto
@RoadconePhoto 2 ай бұрын
I've been telling everyone for a decade... stiff chassis and compliant dampers makes a car FAST on imperfect streets.
@stst5038
@stst5038 Жыл бұрын
こういうのもあれなんですけど土屋さん影武者が運転してるんじゃないかっていうくらい御歳を感じさせない走りに脱帽です。
@yk-sr7tv
@yk-sr7tv Жыл бұрын
元々は視聴者にオススメできる仕様を紹介してたんですよね 魔王争いが過激化して半分忘れられてるけど
@ReskyTuni
@ReskyTuni Жыл бұрын
Considering the age, Tsuchiya-san’s performance is absolutely incredible!!!! It’s pretty hard for the fans who wish him both a more enjoyable life and keeping the touge attack at the same time😂
@TopNotchPanch
@TopNotchPanch 9 ай бұрын
Love how Mr Tsuchiya is adamant on cars being street cars not race cars!!
@milan-dog
@milan-dog 9 ай бұрын
28:51 織戸さんが土屋さんをちょいちょいイジるのが好き
@とむ-s1z
@とむ-s1z Жыл бұрын
GR86での峠アタック楽しみです!ありがとうございます。
@星の玉子さま
@星の玉子さま Жыл бұрын
やっぱ軽くて高剛性は正義なのですね。軽くなったことで、純正ダンパーがスポーツ走行にマッチしたのですね。 キャブいじってた時によく感じましたが、やっぱり純正ってすごい扱いやすいですよね。
@Mark_dj86
@Mark_dj86 Жыл бұрын
The suspension setup looks so dialed in on this car! The way it absorbs all the bumps perfectly and doesn't bounce at all is insane! If this had a bit more power, it would be a MAOU contender for sure!
@M0D3S0PH3R
@M0D3S0PH3R 3 ай бұрын
1005kg is insane🤯 i want a gr so bad
@dre32pitt
@dre32pitt 2 ай бұрын
Get a miata instead.. weightloss built-in ;)
@Taiga-wd9wl
@Taiga-wd9wl Жыл бұрын
21:02 ここで全然跳ねてない、こりゃすげー足だわ
@anhiirr
@anhiirr Жыл бұрын
you can tell how much he appreciates the weight reductions and suspension tunes as he goes from the down to uphill to transitioning straights. The car just holds up to that section really well based on the tune.
@魔弾の射手-k6x
@魔弾の射手-k6x Жыл бұрын
濡れた路面で25秒て魔王やん
@0xadada
@0xadada Жыл бұрын
8:27 Revolution discusses using the OEM stock dampers, which has great bump & rebound. They use aftermarket HAL springs with softer spring rates to counter the light-weight of the car. 11:29 Revolution shows the custom OEM stock dampers on custom upper mounts that let the car sit lower without sacrificing suspension travel height.
@京セラドームの前でダフ屋してません
@京セラドームの前でダフ屋してません Жыл бұрын
ファイナル変更してるのでメーターディスプレイのシフトが実際のシフトとズレてるんですか??
@user-parliament_love
@user-parliament_love Жыл бұрын
ドンガラありだっけ?って思いながら見てたけど土屋さんも同じで良かったわ
@exigev3807
@exigev3807 2 жыл бұрын
ダウンサスって見た目以外にどうなんだろうと思ってましたが、良い効能で面白くとても参考になりましたw スペック紹介のBGMもとても好みです
@Duckquek17
@Duckquek17 Жыл бұрын
You know you have a great car and suspension when all 3 of these legends say it's amazing. I would just melt.
@チャンネルブエル
@チャンネルブエル 4 ай бұрын
GR86乗ってますが、ノーマルの足はかなり良いです。 車高落とす気無ければそのままでマルチに使えます。 ヤフオクでノーマルダンパー今のうちに買って予備にしておこうかな。
@みず吉
@みず吉 Жыл бұрын
純正ダンパー用のアッパーマウントの商品化待ってます
@ch-ll4gs
@ch-ll4gs Жыл бұрын
277馬力はエグいわ、コスパ最強
@ketsuekiplays4327
@ketsuekiplays4327 Жыл бұрын
Can't believe DK is almost 70 years old and he drives like this! 🙏
@maxymillion7480
@maxymillion7480 Жыл бұрын
Oh please! 67 is nothing. Walter Rohrl is 10 years older and still goes ball out. Ari Vatanen is older than DK too.
@ognianeeh5684
@ognianeeh5684 Жыл бұрын
Dont worry. The average life expectancy of the Japanese is 80 years.
@Dinis-e5g
@Dinis-e5g Жыл бұрын
Japao terra de grandes máquinas tanto em 4 rodas como em duas sao os melhores ❤😅
@とまじい-c7u
@とまじい-c7u Жыл бұрын
「ノーマルダンパーでいいんだねぇ」が好きすぎるww
@carwash-ryutamaria
@carwash-ryutamaria Жыл бұрын
軽量86は絶対楽しい!
@hirotomo2769
@hirotomo2769 Жыл бұрын
軽さも相まっているからだけど、ノーマルダンパーで走れるって凄いことよね。 安いからヘタっても交換費用怖くないしw
@therallyeightsix
@therallyeightsix Жыл бұрын
This has serious Maou potential. Can’t wait to see this strong contender competing soon.
@SedatedPigeon
@SedatedPigeon Жыл бұрын
It's proven that the oil pressure drop on right hand turn, not just rtv leading to engine failure
@かま-s9d
@かま-s9d Жыл бұрын
ぷす~んに対しての織戸選手の「そうですね、わかりずらかったっすね」をサラッと言っちゃうところに笑いのセンスを感じる
@ch-ll4gs
@ch-ll4gs Жыл бұрын
エンジンノーマルで280馬力までいけるのか・・・凄いポテンシャルだ
@darrensim295
@darrensim295 Жыл бұрын
DK himself saying he loves the car? Can there be really any higher praise
@risangajinugraha7758
@risangajinugraha7758 Жыл бұрын
It is his type of car after all. Not much power but mainly focused on excessive handling capability.
@FaridFauzan2405
@FaridFauzan2405 Жыл бұрын
200 kilogram loss for lightness and quick acceleration. That's a brilliant idea.
@わい知らんで
@わい知らんで Жыл бұрын
ノーマルダンパーでいいって 国産もここまで来たんだなと、、、
@hazelman1
@hazelman1 Жыл бұрын
Would be nice if English subs added in this great video.
@pfunkle
@pfunkle Жыл бұрын
I'm watching with English subs now if you want to rewatch!
@チョコさん-p3q
@チョコさん-p3q Жыл бұрын
GR86走り込んでますが、足純正ですが、めちゃ✖︎2 いいですよね!扱いやすい‼️
@asahinex1
@asahinex1 Жыл бұрын
友人の勧めで純正形状とダウンサスの組み合わせで乗ってたけど話は本当だったのか
@かっぱ巻き改
@かっぱ巻き改 Жыл бұрын
NAで270馬力!!ポテンシャルえぐいな
@kevin91234
@kevin91234 Жыл бұрын
Half wet condition 25”72 Please take maou!!!!! I hv been waiting for years to see a 86 getting the title
@truthseeker764
@truthseeker764 Жыл бұрын
it still belongs to J's racing S2000! =)
@kevin91234
@kevin91234 Жыл бұрын
@@truthseeker764 i wish this 86 can beat j’s
@Uno_Floydd
@Uno_Floydd Жыл бұрын
​@@truthseeker764 the spirits mrs would like a word kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKLEiKGda5KSmrc
@hongducduong5591
@hongducduong5591 Жыл бұрын
The thing is MRS used semi slicks. The rest of entrants used radials. I wonder if using radials would make MRS slower
@ronghaochen1341
@ronghaochen1341 Жыл бұрын
Need an English subtitle please
@DestinysComputer
@DestinysComputer 8 ай бұрын
A 59.6 at Tsukuba is insanely fast.
@patthonsirilim5739
@patthonsirilim5739 8 ай бұрын
Gr Supra with s tires on decent coil over with track alignment can also do sub 1min.
@mounori
@mounori 7 ай бұрын
@@patthonsirilim5739 yea, and Supra costs twice as much.
@Jvap35
@Jvap35 4 ай бұрын
​@@patthonsirilim5739 aren't they in different categories though? The gr supra is turbocharged and the gr86 is NA
@franckchalut
@franckchalut Жыл бұрын
🔥🔥🔥 so much information !! thanks !! I will aplly this knowledge on mine ! stock damper results are impressive, I will now go with spring upgrade only
@user-Jester
@user-Jester Жыл бұрын
Please make a list with all engine modifications. Amasing power!
@GIGyards
@GIGyards Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this one! I wonder if revolution will keep it NA like their last one or go FI?
@裕ユウ-f4k
@裕ユウ-f4k 2 жыл бұрын
これがドライだったらS2とFDとの同タイムになりそうですね☺️
@NikkoSalgado
@NikkoSalgado Жыл бұрын
Can you guys please do English subtitles? The auto translate doesn’t do well
@ReskyTuni
@ReskyTuni Жыл бұрын
It looks very precise explanation in the first half of the video about tuning the GR86 but unfortunately I can’t read and listen Japanese! The auto translation is very poor!!! Very impressive to see Tsuchiya-San, Nob and Orido flying in Gunsai!!! Wish you all long lives and prosperity🙏🏻
@maginext
@maginext Жыл бұрын
Awsome video! Please please please english translation needed!
@佐々木隆-p8i
@佐々木隆-p8i Жыл бұрын
これだけプロの皆さんにベタ誉めされれば 作った方は さぞ嬉しいだろうね👍️
@タノ-n1t
@タノ-n1t Жыл бұрын
言うて街乗りだったら液ガス問題はさほど関係無いしリコールは無いでしょうね もし街乗りオンリーでブローしたりしたら流石に保証修理になるでしょうし…
@Iseenoobpeoples
@Iseenoobpeoples Жыл бұрын
Can I donate for subtitles?
@baddonkey75
@baddonkey75 Жыл бұрын
The energy at the opening sucked me in so fast haha😂
@Kazuki_Aozaki
@Kazuki_Aozaki Жыл бұрын
レボリューションの代表のコメントやドライバー3人のインプレッションを聞く限り、本当に『良くも悪くも作り込まれたクルマ』なんだな、と思いました。そもそものポテンシャルが高いから、相当に技術力のあるチューナーがガチで手掛けないと却って素の味を悪くしてしまうクルマなのかも。
@nanamex3140
@nanamex3140 Жыл бұрын
ついこの間もなんかのチャンネルで見たけど この車関係なく無理にチューニングした他の車も ノーマルの方がコーナー速いんじゃないかって言われてたわ パワー上げまくってプロが乗ればタイムは出ちゃうもんな
@osamusuzuki8825
@osamusuzuki8825 Жыл бұрын
へえノーマルダンパーのダウンサスなんすね 目から鱗です
@bboystyleoflove
@bboystyleoflove Жыл бұрын
This right here is driving, Americans. not just "its all about my horses and going straight line."
@Syoryuin_S
@Syoryuin_S Жыл бұрын
音もいいかっこもいいタイムもいい 最強やん✨
@ScofieldMichael-y5n
@ScofieldMichael-y5n Жыл бұрын
レボリューション86のフロントフェイスかっこええなあ
@maginext
@maginext Жыл бұрын
Hopefully revolution can mass produce those top hats for the stock suspension. 🙏 and sell em in the USA.
@joshuafallet5690
@joshuafallet5690 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure with dk's praise and some more testing it will happen.
@kanaric
@kanaric Жыл бұрын
If not sold in USA just go to RHD Japan or Nengun and i'm sure you can get them.
@slowdrivinggg000
@slowdrivinggg000 Жыл бұрын
Nobuteru is a great driver!! He really got the best out of that car
@pfunkle
@pfunkle Жыл бұрын
Interviewer came out swinging lol, "so these engines blow up, right?" 😂 Very interesting information about the strainer and sealant blockage. Shame that is happening to a brand new car.
@nathankim9170
@nathankim9170 Жыл бұрын
There was a similar issue on the first gens iirc
@butcht6309
@butcht6309 Жыл бұрын
English subtitles please!
@Blakek.
@Blakek. 3 күн бұрын
The collab we all need
@matthewyang2792
@matthewyang2792 2 жыл бұрын
Is engine stock internals? I want to see this car on dry conditions!
@MJT-DA
@MJT-DA 2 ай бұрын
Oil starvation issues fixed??
@dre32pitt
@dre32pitt 2 ай бұрын
add lightness
@boboutelama5748
@boboutelama5748 Жыл бұрын
So we have two main issues on this car : 1) oil strainer getting clogged by excessive sealant application 2) drop in oil pressure in right turns
@turbo________
@turbo________ Жыл бұрын
the oil strainer is shown to be not a engine breaking problem, the low oil pressure in right turns is bad tho, toyota/subaru need to update the oil pan/pickup and offer it to people who already have the car
@ReskyTuni
@ReskyTuni Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the new Maou coming!!!
@queenofpain7067
@queenofpain7067 4 ай бұрын
I really like that panda colour
@TakaFujiOfficial
@TakaFujiOfficial Жыл бұрын
19:22 is that "rambutan" fruit?
@煉獄-h1e
@煉獄-h1e Жыл бұрын
No
@たかたかたか-l2b
@たかたかたか-l2b Жыл бұрын
It is inexperienced chestnut.
@mikka-s1519
@mikka-s1519 Жыл бұрын
Marron
@Catalina._
@Catalina._ Жыл бұрын
That looks like hairy balls fruit
@Tairana_Kiyomori
@Tairana_Kiyomori Жыл бұрын
japanese 「Kuri」栗
@therallyeightsix
@therallyeightsix Жыл бұрын
Revolution getting the most out of this 86 is truly incredible, I can’t wait to see further development.
@JustSomeGuyWithHalfAMoustache
@JustSomeGuyWithHalfAMoustache Жыл бұрын
it looks really light, as if its a RC car
@ひさ-b4z
@ひさ-b4z Жыл бұрын
念のためロールケージ欲しいな。めっちゃ楽しそう!
@bevanthomas7072
@bevanthomas7072 Жыл бұрын
I would pay to see this with subtitles
@眠い-r4h
@眠い-r4h Жыл бұрын
0:26 I hear you broke your engine? The protruding packing clogs the strainer. The seal cannot be removed because the mesh of the strainer is recessed. When the oil shakes like circuit driving, the seal is easy to peel off. The seal sticks to the net, so you have to suck it off.
@眠い-r4h
@眠い-r4h Жыл бұрын
3:10 Regarding engine temperature control The oil cooler was attached as normal, but the performance was not enough. It is desirable to replace it if you run on a circuit like a 2l engine.
@眠い-r4h
@眠い-r4h Жыл бұрын
4:22 About ecu tuning Not yet. In fact, this car also has a normal engine, a normal ECU, and a normal harness. The ecu is completely different. It takes time to develop.
@眠い-r4h
@眠い-r4h Жыл бұрын
5:00 Almost chatting
@眠い-r4h
@眠い-r4h Жыл бұрын
tired good night
@hori_rs200
@hori_rs200 2 жыл бұрын
さすが土屋さん🎶 ホットバージョンはドンガラでは無いクルマが良いですね😁👍️🎶
@snow-bh1ni
@snow-bh1ni 2 жыл бұрын
ドンガラってのは大分ハードル高いと思う。でもノーマルダンパーって言うのはホントに凄いです。自分も86乗ってた時はノーマルダンパーだったので、なんか嬉しくなりました(あの時とは性能全然違いますが) ドライになったら、またバネレート上げたりが必要かもしれないですね。
@お尻探偵-o3k
@お尻探偵-o3k 2 жыл бұрын
峠の魔王は、もともとドンガラ禁止エアコン、オーディオありだと思ったけど、この車は軽くても何も付いていないから、他のレギュレーションを守っている車とは一緒にするべきではないと思います。
@akifusataito6154
@akifusataito6154 Жыл бұрын
でも魔王レベルの車と戦うとなるとこれぐらいやらないとな…
@坂下卓彌
@坂下卓彌 Жыл бұрын
最初のマックス、300.200に分けたらもっとショプが出れる状態になるのでは🫡
@kambinkelam8983
@kambinkelam8983 Жыл бұрын
Just add extra spot welding, no need roll cage...
@中村さん-d1n
@中村さん-d1n Жыл бұрын
ドンガラのハチロクで走り回ってた峠小僧はいくらでもいたし、好みの問題だよね ドリキンが減点した理由は、そこじゃないけどさ
@mo____mo1795
@mo____mo1795 Жыл бұрын
あれだけ 内装剥いでるのに音が静かもっとガチャガチャした音も聞こえてきても不思議じゃないのに 内側に入ってくる音が少ないでもマフラーの音はしっかり聞こえる 楽しそうな車ですね
@MsOMGwtfnoOb
@MsOMGwtfnoOb Жыл бұрын
It’s sad that Toyota and Subaru don’t listen to people like you with brilliant ideas 💡 what are you going to do with the front wheelhouse when air pressure build up ? Should you cut part of the door ? Will you put a flat undertray under the car ? For better aerodynamic
@truthseeker764
@truthseeker764 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see this car go against the S2000's, Arvou and J's Racing
@DarthVader-1701
@DarthVader-1701 Жыл бұрын
The FA engine needs traditional seals, not cheap and easy silicone.
@hongducduong5591
@hongducduong5591 Жыл бұрын
I really wish if Best Motoring would ask Revolution to bring both of their 86s for comparison and have battle against each other.
@Dhern1212
@Dhern1212 Жыл бұрын
Damn…need subtitles….car looks amazing!!
@shaunelee1314
@shaunelee1314 Жыл бұрын
only Orido was on normal mode, DK & NOB was on track mode
@猫倉猫太郎
@猫倉猫太郎 Жыл бұрын
土屋・谷口さんのドライビングはやはり凄い!
@rinnyinhell
@rinnyinhell Жыл бұрын
What's the suspension I wanna copy as well
@skiptastic1000
@skiptastic1000 Жыл бұрын
suspension was standard, as it benefited from such reduced mass from the body.
@TimothyStovall108
@TimothyStovall108 Жыл бұрын
Stock struts, with GROW springs, along with custom upper top mounts that added height adjustability. Yeah, I want to copy that too.
@naturejapan3981
@naturejapan3981 Жыл бұрын
取り敢えずエンジン壊れるのだけ何とかして欲しい
@デミ夫デミ
@デミ夫デミ Жыл бұрын
もうスバルがやる気ないっぽいんでトヨタが作る次の86に期待するしじゃないですね 自分もgr86買ったけど失敗かも
@ポッキー-r1t
@ポッキー-r1t Жыл бұрын
​@@デミ夫デミ スバルがいるからbrz/86がつくれたのであってトヨタだけでは作らんよ サーキット行く人は自分でバッフルプレートやら、オイルパンガスケット対策すればいいし マイナーチェンジで期待するしかないな
@ku3310
@ku3310 Жыл бұрын
バッフル付けようがシール材対策しようがブローしてるけどな スポーツカーですぐ壊れるエンジンは論外 A90スープラの直4載せる方が多分マシだろ
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