2010 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport vs. 2010 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 - CAR and DRIVER

[@Bigbooster126]

I need a car, it will either be a 2011 Mustang GT, or a 2006 corvette C6. both cost $15,000 and i will use it as a daily driver.

[@fantomg100]

good luck finding c6 2006 for 15k maybe with 150k miles or 2011 gt at least 20k

[@MCAfillmsMikeAtkins]

+Bigbooster126 get an 03 terminator thats where its at! for that price of course

[@nickadkins7765]

@@fantomg100 here we are years later and an 06-07 vette is easily obtainable for $15k with under 100k miles. In fact you can get decent 08+ ls3 cars for $15-18k if you're patient enough! Meanwhile the terminators have gone up in value (not a bad thing) but for performance aspect the vette is a superior option 😁

[@bailey9r]

@@nickadkins7765 Which confirms Ugly's statement five years ago ;

[@anthonylaudano9751]

CORVETTES DON'T HOLD THERE. VALUE.TAKE MY 04 COBRA RIGHT NOW TODAY IN 2021 AND PUT IT NEXT TOO A 04 CORVETTE! WHAT CAR IS MORE VALUABLE. IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE MY TERMINATOR. OR EVEN A 93 40TH ANNIVERSARY CORVETTE NEXT TO MY SVT 93 COBRA. ONCE AGAIN THE COBRA BY BOAT LOADS.

[@benjaminseeberger5100]

shelby = muscle car corvette = sportscar this is uncompareable

[@bailey9r]

Funny when the Shelby is in a shootout with the Challenger they whine...Challenger= muscle car Shelby = sportscar ;

[@eddiedelacruzjr3521]

Some of you guys down there on the comments, comparing the gt500 vs a base model vette, change it up a bit?? Of course gt500 is going t smash a base model. Well kind of. I mean that gt500 was struggling against an almost base model vette. It'd definitely struggle against the zo6 and I don't think it would have a chance against the zr1.

[@Injectedracing]

Lol. It wouldn’t beat the base model either. This is a base model with a couple minor improvements.

[@CeeStyleDj]

off topic a little but its funny how people talk smack about the Challenger SRT when it got .95 in the skidpad versus this Shelby gt500 .91

[@georginavega609]

THIS CORVETTE IS THE KIN KING INTERNATIONAL

[@FordGtman333]

3 seconds behind on a 2 mile track? Thats more impressive than i thought it was going to be.

[@mikecronis]

Odd. My 2012 GS doesn't have a floppy passenger seat, though I'd say every 'Vette has it's "quirks". 'Mur'ca!

[@channell11]

A better latching mechanism was part of the 2012 seat upgrade.

[@mcscotty325]

I'm a GM guy, but I gotta say. That GT500 is gorgeous and kinda pratical. I love it.

[@justoneofmany]

I'm a mustang guy, & my friend has a Shelby GT-500. It's heavy (4100lbs) & you feel the lag from that. The 500+hp Supercharged 5.4L provides nice rip through the gears. However, my Honda Shadow 750 & GSX-R 750 are easily able to take it on the 1/4m. Its NOT a race-track car. Just too heavy. A GT-500 is a retro influenced modern muscle car. BUT the C6 Corvette line (GS, Z06) competes easily with cars worth $250,000-$500,000 or more. It's America's finest and a SPORT CAR! Not a good comparison.

[@marthaanimas]

the grand sport is a sexy beast

[@CptnCruizer666]

@nkx1 I understand that but just what is the problem? I've been in a newer vette and I liked the interior.

[@braddfordy]

@ZO6George that is just the camaro is a new model! how many recalls has there been on the 2010 camaro?

[@HelimanZ06]

@TheBatman917 The list price of the GT500, including shipping, is about $53,000 with svt package. The list price of the GS with the 1LT package is $56,000. Where did you get that extra $11,000???

[@sidewayznut2009]

Really where did you find that. I remember trying to find it out a year ago and I couldn't find it anywhere.

[@Poptartza]

@prknts that's a grand sport, not a Z06. It's pretty much a base vette with some bells and whistles.

[@mazda6tuner99]

@Triplethreat600 the reason is, that ford does not put big enough tires on both of them. 315 on the back of the Shelby and 0-60 should be like 3.8sec range.

[@forrestc3]

@rm005 that is a stock corvette. the grand sport is essentially the same as the regular vette with a package that features better brakes and suspension. they weren't very clear of that though.

[@Wopadas]

Actually it does share with the Lincoln LS platform, I can't recall what all exactly but I believe the floorpan and tunnel.

[@Nick1944]

So would you guys rather have a fairly loaded Grand Sport for $65,000 or a used 07 Z06 with low milage for $55,000?

[@svtcobra1992]

@42boxer1 hence the reason i said " i like the performance upgrades for this GS but not the Z06 body parts" The body SHEET METAL (not the brakes, suspension, etc.) should stick with the Z06.

[@mtooshort20]

i have to disagree with that one. Have u driven a roush or 03 cobra? they have independant rear axles and they handle waaay better than any mustang. A few more suspension mods and it would make for a pretty quick car around the track

[@OgleTorp]

@1vdn992 Maybe you should check out the Lemans series and Corvette Racing's track record. Did you happen to catch the final 10 laps of Atlanta? If not, its on my homepage.

[@kenbuilt240sx]

oh did I mention it only has intake mufflers and tune...at the track where, i dunno, the 0-60 numbers are usually recorded the same vette, same tires, etc. will run a sliver over a 3 sec flat 60mph time...still at about 2500 ft MSL and almost 4000 DA's.

[@Marc99GT]

That is why I want one. C&D tested the 08 C6 Convertible Auto and it ran 12.4 @ 116 mph. There is a guy on here with an 08 auto that runs consistent 12.30s @ just under 118 mph. That is moving for a stock car. The 6 speed auto is a 6L80 rated for some serious hp with a 4.02 1st gear. Stock 08+ LS3s dyno 380s/390s (auto/man). With a Cam, they run high 10s.

[@OgleTorp]

@STANGFAN81 Whats the GT500 run at Nurburgring? You seriously need to drive a Z06 then a GT500. Zo6 kills it in every aspect. Its like getting out of a sportscar into a pickup truck.

[@1flynlow]

@Croozer agreed. but it just seems like they were aiming at the vette when they introduced the 500 horsepower shelby.

[@Ensilvanation]

@RAIDENISLIGHTNING yeah if your talking RWHP...in that case the vettes is at around 400 to the wheel. So whats your point?

[@noel40220]

What should I get? Corvette, Shelby mustang gt500, or dodge challenger

[@Flabernat]

I spent a whole day with a friend in his '08 Ls3 Corvette. The ride is very firm, but it's not harsh by any means, and the seat are very comfortable. Not to mention what that thing can do when it's floored!....... 8-O All while averaging 20mpg around town and 29-31 mpg on the highway.

[@bigradke17]

@neerredd you do know that the zr1 and the ford gt run pretty much the same time right? and as far as out handling idk bout that now im all about hating ford but give respect where respect is due

[@MrOldCrow]

@Motorfordtoyota well true, but the corvette's chassis and suspension was designed for the track, while the gt500's chassis is just a mustang, which was designed for the road and everyday use...

[@rm005]

why a corvette with suspention package vs a stock suspension gt500 on a track test?

[@CeeStyleDj]

By the way... This vid says the price for the Grand Sport Vette is over 64,000 (that's optioned out) but the BASE price of the Grand Sport is $54000 with ALL the same brake, suspension and engine performance. so it's only 4 grand more than the mustang technically.

[@prknts]

@bronxboyXXX :I am sorry I meant the Grand Sport. Well I doubt the ZR1 would take the GT....I like the ZR1 and agree that the supercharged engine is a monster, but coping up with GT not just in the straights but in the corners could be a tough one.. .. and what I wanted to say here was the Shelby GT500 should have been compared with Camaro SS or ZL1, ZL55 models rather than corvette..dont you agree?

[@scarface115]

when it comes to performance, chevy is still the best. ford doesn't have anything that can touch a vette. this wasn't even a z06 and it still beat the gt500 in every category except ride comfort and interior design, but those are irrelevant in performance cars. it also had a 100hp disadvantage against the ford. the vette is just so much more agile and takes those turns with an almost graceful motion. compared to the vette, the gt500 looked like an obese man trying to compete in the olympics...

[@Ensilvanation]

@cjm04 why is it a waist? I mean they are both muscle cars right? They both fall in the same price category right? The GT500 has an advantage of more than 100HP right? They already compared the GT500 to the camaro and challenger, but then everyone was saying why compare a car with a supercharger and a 100HP advantage with the other two. The GT500 is in a class all by itself. Its too slow to contend with the vette, and up, and too fast to contend with the challenger down..

[@toyoracing89]

@CJDUBstang You missed the point of my statement. How many times have you read comparo's of two cars and one can completely smash another as far as numbers and performance goes, and yet somehow it loses because it doesnt have that upscale BMW interior or anything like that? I like both cars a lot, but I would much rather on any given day have GT500, just because there's a back seat lol, but also because it's well worth the money if you can ignore the LRA.

[@1flynlow]

what exactly IS the shelby designed to compete against???

[@heartboy86]

@natev6 why are you comparing the two???

[@ajd2466]

@Janusha again, you stray from your main idea... are you talking about the quality of the cars or how you view their reputation? they are two very different things.

[@Terrance1554]

What is the best colour scheme?

[@TooManyChoices1]

Possibly cross shopping these two for sometime next year. Glad I found this 👍!

[@WeirdUpProductions]

they have a ford gt its rear engine and all but i dont know if they still make it

[@DeftonesFan867]

@MrMustang210 A comparo with a car not made anymore?

[@Blackcuda]

American Muscle cars rule! I just picked up a used low milage 07 Z06, and love it! 505hp and nearly 30mpg on the hwy. Very easy to get the hp up to 600hp and not hurt the gas milage.

[@JesseEnclave]

@LuricRaja2 Displacement and engine size are NOT the same thing. Ford 5.0: 430lbs. LS3:415lbs. Also, they're two different engines that use different methods to make power. LS3 uses higher displacement, 5.0 uses higher revs. Did you really just compare the Charger SRT8, with a 6.1L Hemi V8, to the Cobalt SS, with a 2.0L straight-4? If you must compare it to anything, the Dodge Avenger would be more fitting. Also, there was no 2005 GT500, and the 2007s had 500hp, not 550.

[@Stevenhiggles]

BTW, Motor Trend publishes 2 magazines dedicated to Ford and Mustang. None to GM and they said them selves that the GT500 (not in the video, in the magazine review) that the camaro was a better buy than the GT500.

[@OgleTorp]

@LuricRaja2 I take it you have never heard of a ZR1 . It outperforms the GT and Viper and is actually still produced today.

[@OZZFEST1996]

I'm not a big Gt500 fan but the 2013 is a rocket, I drove one with only 200 miles on it but still was fast as hell and it wasnt even broken in!!! I own a 03 Terminator Cobra with a Kenne Bell on top and a little bit of other goodies, My best time ( street tires ) at the track was 11.2 @126.... I never had to dip into the engine to make it stronger and it still takes a beating.... I have owned 3 Vettes 85, 89 and a 97, none of them could take the beating!! Tranny issue or over heating..

[@Dr_Xyzt]

@zacheryds not if it costs more. You'd have to compare it to a similarly priced 'vette.

[@OgleTorp]

@LuricRaja2 Now its an aftermarket GT with twin turbos?! Im talking stock production cars like the test above.

[@Swidhelm]

@Janusha Yeah I had heard that about the Veyron, but hadn't read it anywhere. I would assume most car companies that don't specialize in super cars would loose money depending on how popular their super car becomes. Because then they are competing with established companies like Ferrari or Lamborghini. I wonder if the SSC Ultimate Aero will do really well.

[@Sloimer]

50k is not half the price of 74. It has a 6.2 liter v8, just like its 50k counterpart. The grand sport package is generally 60k and the upgrades above that are subject to laws of diminishing returns and are mostly just aesthetic.

[@zubEjankins]

@urlame101 did they really? i heard something about that but i didnt know for sure.

[@alexjr90]

@richie19r fyi Its not a base model vette. Its the Grand Sport

[@heartboy86]

@SuRihtanil they are only 6k apart and the vette coupe,the one that has the same engine block as the GS, is only 48k,the same price as the gt500

[@Koolwhip3232]

Why wouldn’t you use the zo6

[@thedefinitive6296]

yeah, the srt8 is around 4100 lbs and i hate that you have to pay extra for thing that should come standard as well, like the 6 speed manual. but yeah, you could wait and see what the prices do. i like to doing things myself, so i'm more likely to go for the gt and get ford racing parts. we're all weird somehow man lol

[@mtooshort20]

55k-60k, either way, the Z06 is 75K, so u still save anywhere from 15k-20k off the Z06's price. In the Z06, what ur paying for is the amazing LS7 motor and the aluminum and alumintium shell and frame, and of course the big 6 piston brakes, wider tires, beefer tranny, etc., so the price makes since if u think about it. If you go on GM Performance site and look at the Crate motors, the LS7 motor alone is 13-15k and its hand-built, just like the LS9 in the ZR1, so the price makes since.

[@Mynameisnotowen]

So pissed my grand sport lost its first roll to a gt500 last night, word of advice; Chevy knows what they’re doing, don’t add a cat back system, I lost so much torque, gained high end power but fuuuck that, I need my toque also the cai’s on c6 are phenomenal and the corsas are very problematic with the sensors. TLDR: unless you’re going all out and don’t drive it more than 3-5 days a week keep your vette stock

[@ZC.Andrew]

@BEBNC1 nice. me too! like a thorough comparison, cutting out as much variable as possible

[@rebelyell22]

@Rumplemenz what about the camaro and GTO etc.

[@heartboy86]

@afgandominator lol not really,you heard of the cts-v and the xlr right.

[@MrOldCrow]

@XxvoLTaxX420 but very different chassis and suspension design not to mention the transmission and gearbox ratios and settings...

[@drtyfknmouth]

Yes, I know. SSpope and I were discussing the difference in between in the performance of the Cadillac CTS-V and the Porsche Cayman S. You don't have to sell me on Corvettes, I own 3 myself ;).

[@clydemoreno7330]

How can the Vette be Americas only sports car? What about the Viper?

[@jlcurtis94]

as for chevy saying the zl1 was designed to beatt the 302, that is incorrect, origanaly it was designed to beat the 2010-2012 gt500 which it would have done, but when the 2013 was realesed in 2012 chevy changed their tune, because they knew it would not beat the 2013, because of the power difference.

[@Michael99959]

@nelaHnaVeiddE Ford GT specs Top Speed: 205 mph / 330 km/h 0-60 mph: 3.6 seconds 0-100 mph: 7.8 seconds 0 - 1/4 Mile: 11.6 sec @ 126.2 mph Engine: DOHC V-8, supercharged

[@dragoonuvl]

"you need a base for comparing" My base is as I said, "application and purpose." Now, the application is fast transportation. The purpose is track day like handling in a car that can be used everyday as a daily driver. " price is the only thing that has a standing value" Wrong, the performance of a car will not change no how old it gets. If someone modifies it then the comparison becomes mute. Were comparing stock cars here so my comparison base is valid.

[@paladain55]

@19thaman79 i doubt that since the zr1 only gets 3.7 and 205 with like 150+ more hp and better tires

[@Marc99GT]

That 2010 GS also has launch control. Imagine that thing with a Vortech, Procharger are APS TT setup.

[@NDil97]

Yes, I know that but it was the base corvette versus te highest model mustang in that year

[@Swidhelm]

@Janusha Ford had initially intended to build 4500 of them, and ended up falling short at 4038 probably as you say a result of money issues. Not just US performance cars loose money with each sale either, as apparently either the Zeno or the LFA (can't remember which one) also costs more to build than they make off of it. But yeah you are right, the GT was probably built to draw people to Ford. Beautiful car though.

[@ParisTNDude]

@96integra02 Not very even. If you check the records for a monitored lap of the Nurburgring in Germany, You would find that the Chevy ZR1 lapped the "ring" 18 seconds faster than the fastest GT40.

[@CeeStyleDj]

@NissanTy Yeah but you would think with all that extra horsepower (GT500 has 104 more!) and the extra suspension tuning, that the stand would at least be close on on par with the vette.

[@mtooshort20]

Ford has a habit of utilizing lower compression ratios than most other brands do. For example, the 4.6L V8 in the mustang GT has a ratio of 9.8:1 while any of the LS series motors from GM run at least 10.1:1, with the 7.0L LS7 running 11.5:1 i believe. Compression ratio has a lot to do with power output, just as much as air and fuel amounts.

[@ManOfLeisure761]

I think the Corvette ZR1 can actually compete with the Ferrari 458 Italia on the track.

[@eljefe797]

Not only compete but beat it

[@anthonylaudano9751]

WELL MY 07 SHELBY GT 500 SUPER SNAKE RACED A ZR1 BACK IN 09 IN QUATER MILE AND BEAT THE ZR1 AND HONESTLY I WAS SURPRISED THAT MY SUPERSNAKE WON.

[@EditCrew]

@urmom4877 umm arnt they the same price? seems to me that corvette is the better buy, if it is so much better. why waste your money on the gt500

[@ClumzyThief666]

the problem is the stang and the camaro are never the same power, ones either got a lot more or a lot less...

[@KAWASAKI4LIF3]

@HelimanZ06 you are absolutly right and not only did they add the new sport cup tires to the z06 and zr1, but they did more aerodymaics tuning, rear spoiler, and better pistons pumping out a little more hp (around 7hp) making them (especially the zr1) the ultimate supercar, especially for the price. They have better times now faster acceleration and top speed and are the best!

[@drtyfknmouth]

FYI, THAT statement is an opinion, not necessarily a fact. Where do you come up with your claim? Seems like if it was true, the company would offer a longer warranty.

[@JesseEnclave]

@LuricRaja2 Show me where I said anything about comparing the ZR1 to the GT500. I specifically said the Grand Sport, which IS in the same price bracket, and belongs in the same class as the GT500. And show me where the Grand Sport, or any 'Vette, is classed as an "exotic", because all I can find, and all I've ever seen, is "2-door coupe" and "sports car"; the exact same classifications ALL mustangs fall under. Even Chevy themselves don't class the ZR1 as an exotic.

[@jacknocf]

I agree with you that it's over priced. Though i wouldn't say the GT500 is garbage. Costing 10 grand less and having bigger back seats and trunk, i think the Shelby held its own. Of course it could be lighter, and should have independent suspension. However 540hp for a well put together car with quality materials and amazing supercharger noise, makes it great bang for buck. And isn't the Z06 around the same price? I'm not sure if it is or not.

[@smilzomagro]

@hellon45 is normal because the Corvette is lighter and has better aerodynamics. You can compare the Camaro with a Mustang, or the Charger, but not with Corvette.

[@HelimanZ06]

If you want to see how the 2011 GT500 compares to the 2011 Z06 at VIR, look up Lightning Lap 2011. The GT500 was 10.5 seconds slower per lap (3:04 sec. vs 2:53.5 sec.) than the Z06. The Cadillac turned the same 3:04 sec. time as the GT500. On the SAME course the Ford GT turned a lap time of 3:00.7 sec. or 7.2 seconds slower per lap than the Z06. Beware that the 2012 Z06 and ZR1's will have the new Pilot Sport Cup Tires. They are 3 sec. per lap faster vs the current PS2's on the Z06 at VIR.

[@superchris09]

I disagree with your last statement. The Ford GT40 competes with the vette quite well. I am a Chevy guy and love Vettes but would take a GT40 any day over a Vette. The GT40 is one gorgeous machine.

[@mtooshort20]

nope sorry, ur wrong. The Grand Sport does have the Z06's body, but still retains its steel frame and LS3 motor, everything else is Z06, but the price was dropped 20 grand from the Z06's price. The Base Vette is around 50K, the Grand Sport is around 55k, and the Z06 is 75k and the ZR1 is 110k. Its a great maketing trick b/c its essentially adding a track pack to a Base vette. The LS7 in the Z06 is hand-built and very expensive, so to offer the Z06 without the highpower motor is smart.

[@94jrose]

@Janusha well considering it is just as fast as the competition for about half the price yeah I'd say its a good car a bmw m6 for nearly double the price is basically just as fast if not slower

[@LuricRaja2]

@swan467 Problem with that is the GT500 is not stock either>>>all the GT is is Twin turbo but then again it comes supercharged as well, so Forced vs NA no biggy, again just further proves my point people will try adn compare apples to Oranges, Supercar vs Muscle and Family seedan vs Sport compact, i see it everywhere. thanks for proving my point

[@818silencer818]

At some point it stops but yes there is something faster, go aftermarket on the GT and you get the GT1000....

[@psmTARDCORE]

@19thaman79 no. That car has more power than its chasis and tiny tires can handle. Not to mention the live rear axle. A GOOD drive can get mid 12's and a mid 4 second 0-60.

[@Flabernat]

Well of course the seat flops forward if you don't lock it back in place after moving.... The interior isn't an Aston Martin interior, we get it, but by no means is it bad, and/or should lose points because of that.

[@Marc99GT]

I'm actually kind of odd because I have followed both Ford and GM products for over 20 years. I raced a 10 second Turbocharged 99 GT auto for years, but also owned and built an 87 Grand National. I love the sound of Mustangs and nothing compares IMO. My next car will be an 08 C6 though. I think Ford competes with the Camaro very well and always has, but it has never had an answer for the all around performance of the Corvette.

[@civstu]

Thanks! It was the invoice price. Things they Conveniently forgot to mention was how much it will cost to replace these ridiculously priced, summer performance tires...

[@Ensilvanation]

@Karnage542 Well in your original statement you mentioned the stang being a muscle car not a sports car. This is a stang vs vette vid so Im assuming your categorizing the vette as a "sports car". The term "muscle car" was coined in the 60's when they threw large displacement v8's in sedans, coupes so on and so forth. Muscle is the engine, v8's and up "muscle car" is an era. google "car classes", and you will not see "muscle" there..you will see sports, and you will find those cars there.

[@bleachman9000]

Well yeah, I was referring to the 2012 comparison here, the 2013 GT500 really destroys the base corvette. The sound is much better for 2013, and it's finally getting some REAL recognition. the ZR1 pulls harder yes, but the Shelby ( if you can say any car with 662 HP ) is easier to live with. I have to hand it to the Shelby, it's quite the beast, and also thank you for making valid points and being a huge fanboy about this, their seem to be a few people with sense around here...

[@Kyu1LL]

@bronxboyXXX sorry to burst your bubble, but that's a race car... correct me if i'm wrong but often times, they share slim to nothing with the street car. I don't see vettes as the most reliable, but I could be wrong (listening to the haters). Plus, this video is about the grandsport which I think is a rip off and looks weird with the extra vents. I would take a Z06 if I had to get a vette, but would much rather have a Camaro ZL1 or a GT500

[@thedefinitive6296]

i agree with you there. the mustang is kinda old school with that live rear axle, but i could care less. and honestly, i'd probably just get a regular gt and do the mods myself. i like doing that anyways. and although the corvette is a more balanced car, i'd still prefer the rawness of the mustang. and even with all the weight, it's still lighter than the challenger srt8(which i also love lol)

[@Naturalhit]

Hennessey is independant. They are known for Dodge, but they are starting to do work on GM and even Ford. Just like SLP and Calaway are doing work on Ford. It just depends where the market is. SVT is totally Ford subcontract. They did however worked on a Firebird V6 and turned into a 11sec. race car run by Harry Dolittle. But SVT didn't put their stamp on it.

[@BEBNC1]

@STANGFAN81 That GT500 VIR time was run by ford engineers on none stock tires, still a good time though. Car and Driver could only get 3:04 in the 2011 GT500 (same as cts-v) but got 2:58.8 in the GS corvette. The GT500 has the power to weight ratio advantage (GT500 = 6.9 lbs/hp, the GS =7.6lbs/hp), that is a huge difference. That Z06 time was from 2005, the Z is 5secs faster now. I would love to see a true head to head comparison between the 2011 GS and 2011 GT500.