2010 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport vs. 2010 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 - CAR and DRIVER

[@Bigbooster126]

I need a car, it will either be a 2011 Mustang GT, or a 2006 corvette C6. both cost $15,000 and i will use it as a daily driver.

[@fantomg100]

good luck finding c6 2006 for 15k maybe with 150k miles or 2011 gt at least 20k

[@MCAfillmsMikeAtkins]

+Bigbooster126 get an 03 terminator thats where its at! for that price of course

[@nickadkins7765]

@@fantomg100 here we are years later and an 06-07 vette is easily obtainable for $15k with under 100k miles. In fact you can get decent 08+ ls3 cars for $15-18k if you're patient enough! Meanwhile the terminators have gone up in value (not a bad thing) but for performance aspect the vette is a superior option 😁

[@bailey9r]

@@nickadkins7765 Which confirms Ugly's statement five years ago ;

[@anthonylaudano9751]

CORVETTES DON'T HOLD THERE. VALUE.TAKE MY 04 COBRA RIGHT NOW TODAY IN 2021 AND PUT IT NEXT TOO A 04 CORVETTE! WHAT CAR IS MORE VALUABLE. IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE MY TERMINATOR. OR EVEN A 93 40TH ANNIVERSARY CORVETTE NEXT TO MY SVT 93 COBRA. ONCE AGAIN THE COBRA BY BOAT LOADS.

[@benjaminseeberger5100]

shelby = muscle car corvette = sportscar this is uncompareable

[@bailey9r]

Funny when the Shelby is in a shootout with the Challenger they whine...Challenger= muscle car Shelby = sportscar ;

[@eddiedelacruzjr3521]

Some of you guys down there on the comments, comparing the gt500 vs a base model vette, change it up a bit?? Of course gt500 is going t smash a base model. Well kind of. I mean that gt500 was struggling against an almost base model vette. It'd definitely struggle against the zo6 and I don't think it would have a chance against the zr1.

[@Injectedracing]

Lol. It wouldn’t beat the base model either. This is a base model with a couple minor improvements.

[@georginavega609]

THIS CORVETTE IS THE KIN KING INTERNATIONAL

[@mikecronis]

Odd. My 2012 GS doesn't have a floppy passenger seat, though I'd say every 'Vette has it's "quirks". 'Mur'ca!

[@channell11]

A better latching mechanism was part of the 2012 seat upgrade.

[@scarface115]

when it comes to performance, chevy is still the best. ford doesn't have anything that can touch a vette. this wasn't even a z06 and it still beat the gt500 in every category except ride comfort and interior design, but those are irrelevant in performance cars. it also had a 100hp disadvantage against the ford. the vette is just so much more agile and takes those turns with an almost graceful motion. compared to the vette, the gt500 looked like an obese man trying to compete in the olympics...

[@justoneofmany]

I'm a mustang guy, & my friend has a Shelby GT-500. It's heavy (4100lbs) & you feel the lag from that. The 500+hp Supercharged 5.4L provides nice rip through the gears. However, my Honda Shadow 750 & GSX-R 750 are easily able to take it on the 1/4m. Its NOT a race-track car. Just too heavy. A GT-500 is a retro influenced modern muscle car. BUT the C6 Corvette line (GS, Z06) competes easily with cars worth $250,000-$500,000 or more. It's America's finest and a SPORT CAR! Not a good comparison.

[@CeeStyleDj]

off topic a little but its funny how people talk smack about the Challenger SRT when it got .95 in the skidpad versus this Shelby gt500 .91

[@FordGtman333]

3 seconds behind on a 2 mile track? Thats more impressive than i thought it was going to be.

[@mcscotty325]

I'm a GM guy, but I gotta say. That GT500 is gorgeous and kinda pratical. I love it.

[@kcole939]

2:49 LOL. Dukes of hazzard jump. Yeeeeeeeeehawwwwwwww.

[@mcHammerIsDaSheet]

big kudos for the 50k price tag. ill bring a g8 gxp and dust the mustang

[@samspace81]

I think the video above ^^^^^ ends the arguements, no?

[@Mynameisnotowen]

So pissed my grand sport lost its first roll to a gt500 last night, word of advice; Chevy knows what they’re doing, don’t add a cat back system, I lost so much torque, gained high end power but fuuuck that, I need my toque also the cai’s on c6 are phenomenal and the corsas are very problematic with the sensors. TLDR: unless you’re going all out and don’t drive it more than 3-5 days a week keep your vette stock

[@kingbrutusxxvi]

Why do people always want to compare the Mustang to the Corvette? I've owned several of each and they are in completely different categories. What's next, Car And Driver, comparing the 2020 Mack Anthem 64T 70-inch Sleeper to a 1920 Schwinn Excelsior? "They're closer than you think!"

[@ManOfLeisure761]

I think the Corvette ZR1 can actually compete with the Ferrari 458 Italia on the track.

[@eljefe797]

Not only compete but beat it

[@anthonylaudano9751]

WELL MY 07 SHELBY GT 500 SUPER SNAKE RACED A ZR1 BACK IN 09 IN QUATER MILE AND BEAT THE ZR1 AND HONESTLY I WAS SURPRISED THAT MY SUPERSNAKE WON.

[@scarface115]

@IxOVERKILLxI yea man, usually i like all american automakers, but i do favor chevy and dodge the most. i think the ford fanboys actually made me like ford less than i used to. i think they have fine performance cars, but when people start making false claims and start comparing them to cars that they obviously cant touch it just gets on my nerves. they're also so sure of themselves that it makes you wonder, if these people are this ignorant and illogical here, then how are they in person?

[@scarface115]

@IxOVERKILLxI i wouldn't even bother with these little children, you have to explain every little detail to them because they don't understand them. there's no use in educating those who willingly choose to be ignorant. they think we're chevy fan boys, but what they fail to realize is that we're just stating the facts to them. they can cry all night about how they think their puny super snake is better than a z06 or zr1, but in the end they're always wrong...

[@anthonylaudano9751]

The corvette is no match for my ZR1 KILLER MY SHELBY GT500 SUPER SNAKE.ALL 900HP STOCK FROM SHELBY SUCK ON THAT CHEVY AND DODGE BOY'S LOL.

[@GreenBoiler]

I would never buy a car now matter how much hp it had if it can't handle or is slopp around a track. I guess I perfer the thrill of racing rather than the claim of numbers...

[@marthaanimas]

the grand sport is a sexy beast

[@moustachio334]

Corvette is slim and attractive. The Mustang eats junk food and skips leg day. I bet a 2000 Cobra R would eat the faux GT500 up.

[@Kyu1LL]

@bronxboyXXX sorry to burst your bubble, but that's a race car... correct me if i'm wrong but often times, they share slim to nothing with the street car. I don't see vettes as the most reliable, but I could be wrong (listening to the haters). Plus, this video is about the grandsport which I think is a rip off and looks weird with the extra vents. I would take a Z06 if I had to get a vette, but would much rather have a Camaro ZL1 or a GT500

[@zubEjankins]

@natev6 How about we just come to a standstill? GM, while in financial debt, has a great bang-for-your-buck sports car in the Corvette that can race against foreign exotics. Ford has always been big in almost every auto category, and the new Mustang and Shelby GT500 are top notch for their class. But you still have to give the edge to the Corvette if you don't go by overpriced Canada MSRP. Here you'd only pay about 15-20,000 more for a more complete track car than the Shelby.

[@zubEjankins]

@natev6 well for starters, if Chevy decided to make a Z28 when they get out of the hold they are in, that would probably match up with the Shelby GT. And i saw something (a video) where the new GT could barely beat the 2010 SS! Last I checked, the Shelby was 40,000-50,000 dollars, so when did the Z06 become $90,000? Ford's been in trouble before and gets away with it, but when GM and Chrylser go through it, thats all you Ford fan boys can talk about. And BTW, I'd take a Camaro over a shitstang.

[@blue03r6]

@TheBatman917 more engine potential for the ford is not an accurate statement. ford and chevy are probably the two biggest aftermarket upgrades market there is. but you can't make the mustang a real road race car like the vette is. it's just not the same kind of vehicle. and good luck getting any more power from the mustang to the ground. I'd rather have a road hugging sports car than a only fast in a straight line mustang.

[@LostChildOfTime]

Two tons. If I was to buy a 2 ton American car for $50 grand, I'd get a CTS-V. Different class, but in spite of the fact GM made a mistake putting a moonroof on it, it will run rings around the Mustang. It seems as far as Ford is concerned, suspension is overrated and the Mustang's old school good looks can compensate for it. Yes, there's the Roush Mustang, but why does Roush have to make up for what Ford lacks? I like those wheels on the Vette. Overall, the C6 is as good as it gets.

[@zubEjankins]

@quickguys95 If the GT was so great, why did Ford discontinue it? Its proven the ZR1 is a better all around vehicle, and the fact that the price tags are roughly the same, i don't see what you are talking about. ZR1 can hand with million dollar exotics. And look what you bring up, the bailout. Pretty sad how a bankrupt manufacturer is doing better than the almighty ford.

[@zubEjankins]

I will admit, Ford has figured Chevy out in terms of the Mustang/Camaro rivalry, but when you get to the Corvette, Ford just can't compete. The reason is because of how light the Corvette is. This is similar to the new GT mustangs. They have less power than the Camaros, but they are lighter, and are able to put up better track numbers.

[@TURBOxSHOOTER]

@memo214dallas214 mustang shelpy gt500 it's bigger than corvette but at least i have a back seat i can injoying ride it with my friends corvette onle have 2 seat sorry but for fun mustang shelpy better if you have 3 friends what you want to tell thim i have corvette can you follow me with your car :)

[@MustangsCanTurnToo]

@braveheart4lif31 Then explain how I beat all those corvettes and vipers in my mustang. It's just history repeating itself, GT350's dominated trans am and other SCCA racing series. As far as Ford not knowing how to make a sports car, Enzo Ferrari is laughing at you from his grave. So what exactly am I blind to? Everything I have said can be substantiated in magazine articles, videos, sales figures, and history.

[@MustangsCanTurnToo]

@skippy4955 Yup, fanboy. You ignore the facts and blindly follow the crowd making baseless claims about Ford. My user name is based on my hobby of beating Porsches, Corvettes, Vipers, and BMW's around road courses in my Mustangs. A Camaro in that bunch isn't even worth mentioning and the other. Mustangs are faster, handle better, and the interiors are actually a nice place to be for a change. Not like Camaros and Corvettes where the interior has always been pieced together as an afterthought.

[@MustangsCanTurnToo]

@duelingmonster Actually Ford makes cars that sell. Chevy dealers still have brand new '09 vettes sitting next to brand newer 2011's. There's not a dealer in the country that will touch a Z06 Carbon . The last thing they need is another $90,000 car no one will buy. Meanwhile, across the street, 2011 Mustangs, F-150's, Fusions, Edges, and Taurus are in easy rotation while their 2010 counterparts are all in the used lot.

[@ParisTNDude]

The Grand Sport has the least HP engine that Chevy puts in a Corvette. It's only 436 HP. The GT 500 is severely penalized with a really ancient rear suspension architecture. It's not far improved from what Caesar used on chariots. This really isn't a fair race. I wish Ford would build something competitive with the Vette and both American cars race in international events. I would like Euorpean snobs to get a taste of American brute HP.

[@Swidhelm]

@Janusha Ford had initially intended to build 4500 of them, and ended up falling short at 4038 probably as you say a result of money issues. Not just US performance cars loose money with each sale either, as apparently either the Zeno or the LFA (can't remember which one) also costs more to build than they make off of it. But yeah you are right, the GT was probably built to draw people to Ford. Beautiful car though.

[@laptoph4x]

well this is a bull shit test if ive ever seen one... of coarse the grand sport is gonna whoop the gt500's ass. its pretty shitty that the corvette 0-60 time is only .5 sec off considering its 500 lbs less and has wider and stickier tires than the gt500, and better suspension but in the end the 2 cars were never supposed to be compared to one another so i think the gt500 does a damn good job for what i consider a muscle car!! big kudos for the gt500 being as close as it is to the grand sport

[@thedefinitive6296]

i agree with you there. the mustang is kinda old school with that live rear axle, but i could care less. and honestly, i'd probably just get a regular gt and do the mods myself. i like doing that anyways. and although the corvette is a more balanced car, i'd still prefer the rawness of the mustang. and even with all the weight, it's still lighter than the challenger srt8(which i also love lol)

[@krocialblack]

They explained why they put these two cars together. Because Chevy had nothing else in their line up to compete with the GT500. So they had to go with the Grand Sport Corvette. And plus. They where trying to prove if the Mustang is a true sports car, or a muscle car with a sporty athletic spirit. That's why this test happened.

[@ineverplay]

not these days ford (probably more shelby than ford pushing this though) are trying to put the mustang in the corvettes league with that stupid insane new mustang they have they were clearly trying to compete with the corvette the only thing its really any use for is the quater mile when the camaro can still beat it

[@g00dl00kinb0i]

@kirk0respite Well, there's still the ZR-1. Not to say Mustang sucks - I wouldn't get mad if I could have one like this, but the ZR-1 gotta be the best American sports car hands down. It crushes the SRT-10 as well, basically everything except the ACR Viper for US cars. Mustang is a pony car, more like the Camaro, Z06 or ZR-1 are more comparable to the Ford GT.

[@SupramanTRD]

rickdwightful, I hate GM but sorry to say I can get 5 grand sports for 1 ferrari 430, and the ferrari will always has problems and an expensive bill, aswell the vette is faster 90% of the time, think about it, the vette has the supercar badge, its cheaper to purchase, cheaper to insure, easier to take care of, better on gas, has a better resale value, etc

[@NissanTy]

@gto400hp2006 woah woah woah, first off don't come at me like a dickhead, i was estimating, sorry if i wasn't right, the vette is a lightweight 2 door, 2 seater sports car where as the mustang is more of a muscle car. i love the corvette, i love the lsx engines chevy makes, im just a blue oval fan and a mustang fan at that.

[@Swidhelm]

@Janusha Yeah I had heard that about the Veyron, but hadn't read it anywhere. I would assume most car companies that don't specialize in super cars would loose money depending on how popular their super car becomes. Because then they are competing with established companies like Ferrari or Lamborghini. I wonder if the SSC Ultimate Aero will do really well.

[@Swidhelm]

That threw me too. Asking if the Mustang was a true sports car . . . ah, nope. It's a muscle car. A little different. Not the same thing as a sports car. Muscle cars are generally heavy and go great in a strait line. Sports cars are generally meant for grip, speed, and are smaller and lighter. Usually anyways. Not always.

[@Naturalhit]

Hennessey is independant. They are known for Dodge, but they are starting to do work on GM and even Ford. Just like SLP and Calaway are doing work on Ford. It just depends where the market is. SVT is totally Ford subcontract. They did however worked on a Firebird V6 and turned into a 11sec. race car run by Harry Dolittle. But SVT didn't put their stamp on it.

[@thedefinitive6296]

yeah, the srt8 is around 4100 lbs and i hate that you have to pay extra for thing that should come standard as well, like the 6 speed manual. but yeah, you could wait and see what the prices do. i like to doing things myself, so i'm more likely to go for the gt and get ford racing parts. we're all weird somehow man lol

[@818silencer818]

Of course it performed better. It is a Sports Car, the GT500 is a Muscle Car. The GT500 is big, heavy, not aerodynamic. The Corvette is more aerodynamic and lighter. You can't compare these 2 cars because they are built for 2 reasons. The GT500 is just a bad ass looking car and I would take it over the Vette.

[@zubEjankins]

@natev6 yeh see, thats how i got my numbers mixed up, i havent seen 2011 GT500s vs Z06s, so yes it will be interesting. And i good luck to you if you do decide to come here (to the states) and buy a new car. =)

[@TheBigBazzy]

I have always felt that most American cars are garbage. However, the Corvette has always been an exception even though its interior and general build quality still feels very American (crap). I would buy a Corvette Z06 if I was looking for serious power and challenging but rewarding handling.

[@SupramanTRD]

richdwightful, I know american quality is not nearly as good but thats why we see a price difference, im 18 and cant afford a vette or ferrari, I drive a 240sx and crx, but not all of us can be CEO's even though thats what im going for, how the heck did you afford one

[@MustangsCanTurnToo]

@TheGoldenBrothers Your comment doesnt make any sense. The cars in the used car lot at a Ford dealership are there because people traded in their used cars for a new Ford. A lot of Camaros are sitting there too. If I were a gambling man, I'd bet they traded up to a Mustang.

[@interscope8]

No shit the vett won. The mustang is a muscle car. Not a sports or super car like the vett. They shoulda matched the vett with the ford gt or the viper. Or y not all 3? The mustang is also $15K less expensive, for $15k I bet you could easily tweak the gt500 to compete if not beat the vett.

[@SimonGoodacre]

To be honest, I just do not understand the GT500. I understand the appeal of normal Stangs because they are cheap and pretty good value, but the GT500 is a $50,000 car that is really just a $25,000 car with a bigger engine. I would take the vette any day if I were paying that kind of money.

[@CeeStyleDj]

By the way... This vid says the price for the Grand Sport Vette is over 64,000 (that's optioned out) but the BASE price of the Grand Sport is $54000 with ALL the same brake, suspension and engine performance. so it's only 4 grand more than the mustang technically.

[@zubEjankins]

@natev6 ah quit crying and admit Chevy's on top of the sports car world. Have fun with what little bit of Ford truck dominance you got before GM gets its together. Oh wait, they already have. =)

[@Twobarpsi]

It's a GT vs a track car with two seats.

[@Roesch21]

Mustang was forced to "fight" outside it's weight class because GM's pony car sucks? Analogy Time :-) "So yeah we know you're a feather-weight but there is no one there that can beat you so we're making you fight a light heavy-weight..." Makes no sense.

[@SupramanTRD]

sorry the fastest street legal car has now beat the veyron, know what it is, a lotus exige with a corvette engine, its 1200hp and does over 450 km/h as compared to the bugatti that does 407, aswell the lotus has half the cylinders and two less turbos

[@LexierKent]

Now After The BUGATTI VEYRON There is a new car THE FASTEST AND THE MOST EXPENSIVE CAR OF THE WORLD THIS CAR IS the FORD GT5000 ULTIMATE SPEED CONCEPT (CAR WITH 10 SPEED THAT CAN REACH 356 MPH) THAT CAR SO COOL!!!! THAT WILL BEING RELEASE ON JUN.28 2011

[@LexierKent]

Now After The BUGATTI VEYRON There is a new car THE FASTEST AND THE MOST EXPENSIVE CAR OF THE WORLD THIS CAR IS the FORD GT5000 ULTIMATE SPEED CONCEPT (CAR WITH 10 SPEED THAT CAN REACH 356 MPH) THAT CAR SO COOL!!!! THAT WILL BEING RELEASE ON JUN.28 2011

[@NissanTy]

@CeeStyleDj yeah but i don't think the camaro with equal power would do any better than the gt500. the vette is just a awesome respectable sports/track car. its got a lower center of gravity and wider gripier tires than the gt500.

[@NissanTy]

i don't know why these car magazines and websites compare the gt500 and corvette, corvette is a lightweight track car where as IMO the gt500 is a drag car. me i'd rather have the gt500 but i do like the corvette, best sports car for the money.

[@Swidhelm]

Would make more sense. It's odd putting a vette against a stang. They aren't in the same class. Would be like putting a civic up against a lambo. Just wouldn't make sense. Different class, different performance goals, etc.

[@myyvaine]

you know ecko...this Shelby should not even be compared to a vette...but with a camaro...they are in class with camaro's not vette's this is why i call it NOT a fair "vs"

[@ParisTNDude]

@96integra02 Not very even. If you check the records for a monitored lap of the Nurburgring in Germany, You would find that the Chevy ZR1 lapped the "ring" 18 seconds faster than the fastest GT40.

[@2007ShelbyCobra]

no, learn soemthing, please, the GT500 has nothing to do with a lincoln plateform, and weights a few hundrew pounds more than the vette, as well as being able to carry two more passengers...

[@CeeStyleDj]

@NissanTy Yeah but you would think with all that extra horsepower (GT500 has 104 more!) and the extra suspension tuning, that the stand would at least be close on on par with the vette.

[@KillerKaprice]

@Pasco08 vette gets better mileage and a mustangs bck seats don't really exist ( unless you have paper thin legs. In my eyes a vette is more practical

[@1Pueblito]

drag race, drag race, drag race!

[@soccerpeve]

@krunky5000 exactly, for instance...the Z28 camaro...coming soon. It has 500+ hp as well. Comparing diff. classes of cars is usually never gonna come out well lol.

[@xtreme3377]

the thing is, Mustang was never sport, and most people that buy it don't buy it as a "sport" car. I bought my GT as it is true american muscle, and THAT is what a Mustang is.

[@818silencer818]

Well if you want to bring up the Hennessy, The GT500 Super Snake is there to bring you back down. The GT "barely wins" over the ZR1. Then I'm guessing the GTX1 kills it.

[@SupramanTRD]

I think weve all known about veyron supersport for awhile now, gotta be atleast $2,000,000 frankly my favorite car is the title of this video, and it costs $50,000

[@JETZcorp]

@viper5856 Almost. The new Mercedes SLS is based on what was going to be the third-generation Viper. Yes, that's right, the Germans are using Dodge parts now.

[@scarface115]

@urmom4877 it's called a ford gt, not a gt40. the gt40 was a race car from the 60s. it really doesn't matter what's fair because the zr1 beats every car ford has ever made. the gt is an exotic, the vette is a sports car, but it still beats it. two different classes. like i already said, there is not one car that ford ever offered that can top the vette. do some research and find out yourself. also, the ford gt isn't even in production anymore, it's dead. it was a limited production exotic...

[@krocialblack]

The Saleen S7 was designed by Brits. The Ford GT was inspired by the GT40, which was also designed by Brits. The Viper is a Supercar, not a Sports Car.

[@scarface115]

@IxOVERKILLxI lol, i must thank you, your comment was very uplifting. it's great to finally hear from someone who knows some facts about cars rather than ignorant children who think they know it all when in reality they know absolutely nothing about them. what most people fail to realize, or at least don't want to admit, is that the GM LS Series engines are among the greatest v8s being produced. there is not one ford engine that can even compare to greatness of the LS. they can take any beating.

[@phantom5573]

I bet that mustang is (pardon my slang) funner to drive than that Vette!!! I've driven a new C6 Vette (pretty much the same here) - boring...

[@ghammerboy97]

next step up....Z06

[@Rorschach34Bos]

u wrong because supercar should only has two seats GTR is consider the most powerful sport car corvette is the truth supercar

[@Roesch21]

WHAT!?!? A lighter, more expensive, 2-seater, "Super" car beat a heavier, cheaper, 4-seater, "Pony" car?!? BLASPHEMY!!!

[@ironbull2003]

Nice guess but i dont drive Kia But at the age of 41 u are to young for corvette so have to wait another 10 years :P

[@NissanTy]

@6psychosis6 this is a corvette vs a heavy ass gt500 wtf did you expect? the gt500 would and does rape the crapmaro!

[@AceYYC]

True... but I'm still gonna go out on a limb and say that a 600 hp RWD coupe/roadster can also be called a sports car.

[@enadipasholli8683]

***** because the camaro isnt a muscle/pony car anymore. its a sports car. no muscle/pony car would have magnetic ride control from a caddilac. thats y mustang is better. its true to its roots. and mustangs challange the driver more because of the suspention setup

[@OZZFEST1996]

I'm not a big Gt500 fan but the 2013 is a rocket, I drove one with only 200 miles on it but still was fast as hell and it wasnt even broken in!!! I own a 03 Terminator Cobra with a Kenne Bell on top and a little bit of other goodies, My best time ( street tires ) at the track was 11.2 @126.... I never had to dip into the engine to make it stronger and it still takes a beating.... I have owned 3 Vettes 85, 89 and a 97, none of them could take the beating!! Tranny issue or over heating..

[@dragoonuvl]

"you need a base for comparing" My base is as I said, "application and purpose." Now, the application is fast transportation. The purpose is track day like handling in a car that can be used everyday as a daily driver. " price is the only thing that has a standing value" Wrong, the performance of a car will not change no how old it gets. If someone modifies it then the comparison becomes mute. Were comparing stock cars here so my comparison base is valid.

[@dragoonuvl]

Chevy merely took the Camaro SS back into their garage installed a supercharger from the Corvette, The suspension/ brakes from the ZR1, tweaked the aerodynamics of the body to improve airflow and strength towards the critical components that often fail on the race track I.E. Brakes, radiator, Trans, and rear end. And in the end it seriously hurt the 302on the track. You can complain this but as you said "there are plenty of vids of this happening"

[@jlcurtis94]

ford has the balls to premire their car first and then chevy has to attempt to build a better car, which does NOT happen, ford has always been able to do more with less, look at all the tech in a zl1 and it still cant beat a gt500 lap times, now compare the ss with 5.0, i would say boss 302 but thats overkill, ford is always a step ahead, even useing old tech (LRA) not to mention the mustang cost less, and they put the mustang out first. and chevy just follows behind in 2nd ...ford & mustang FTW

[@dragoonuvl]

The mustang is the very least of the Corvette's concern. The new Mustang is neither marketed as, designed to be, or even considered a match for the C6 or even C7 Corvette. And before you comeback with a mods comment. By the time you modify a mustang to be anything like a corvette. You've already lost what made a mustang into what it was in the beginning. Now, the Camaro is taking great care of the Mustang so their is no reason what so ever; for Chevy to pit the Corvette to the Mustang.

[@JesseEnclave]

Not really. The Ferrari 458 makes less than 400lb/ft, yet can still trap 130+. It's more about weight and aerodynamics. The GT-R's tech gets it off the line like a bat outta hell, but physics wins out in the long run. Of course, you've got to consider gearing and all that, but that's another story. Also, the GT-R's engine may be "small" by displacement standards, but it weighs 600lbs. That's more than a Viper's 8.4L V10, and I think 2nd only to the 860lb W16 in the Veyron for a production car.

[@JesseEnclave]

Oh, of course. With a perfect launch and a driver who can shift, a ZR1 is a 10sec car all day long. And when you look at the trap speeds, there's absolutely no contest. Motor Trend has run an 11.1 with the latest GT-R, and ran an 11.2 with the ZR1 back in 08-09. Yeah, the GT-R had a better time, but its trap speed was only 123mph, while the ZR1 trapped 130. So even with its traction issues off the line, a ZR1 will walk on a GT-R if the race goes beyond a 1/4 mile, assuming the driver can shift.

[@JesseEnclave]

@LuricRaja2 The Cobalt SS was classed as a "Sport Compact", not a sports car. I can see you've given up on trying to make any kind of sense. Is what I'm saying just going over your head, or are you making a conscious effort to either ignore or twist my words? GT-R beats 'Vette? ONLY in a straight-line, and ONLY if the race stops at a 1/4 mile. Comparisons ARE equal. Same price point, same class, similar performance, end of. It's been and entire week and THIS is what you have?

[@LuricRaja2]

When People learn to compare comparable cars then and only then will you get true numbers to Crunch, Untill then don't even bother posting LMAo and all of you who say this is a good comparison? LMAO a cobalt vs Mustang would be the same comparison bracket oh BTW the mustang rocks because it's better than a cobalt SS LMAO vette sucks because it falls short of teh Nissan GTR. LMAO Ford Rocks, Chevy Rocks...So stop your stupidity of comparing apples to oranges.

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@WelcomeToCarnate And so is the Cobalt SS and so is the Neon oh i mean SRT4 and i hate to tell you comparing a neon to a vette and saying the vette rocks no shit.LMAO. you may as well compare a Ranger to an Big rig, they're both truck the big rig wins...Vette vs GT Mustang vs Camero, Cobalt vs Focus, thiose are the comparisons. Oh BTW GTR beets vette, just saying, make the comparisons equal Point final. oh hey pss did you hear the mustang GT500 rocks the 1977 Concours sucks.. they're both coupes

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@LuricRaja2 The Viper isn't classed as an exotic, either. 2-door coupe/sports car, just like the 'Vette and Mustang. It was once called the "American Exotic" when it first came out, but that was nothing but a marketing tool. The FGT is the only one routinely classed as an exotic, and the only one that actually qualifies. This comparo may be apples to orange in many ways, but not when it comes to price ranges and OFFICIAL classification(Ford also classes the Mustang as a sports car).

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@LuricRaja2 Show me where I said anything about comparing the ZR1 to the GT500. I specifically said the Grand Sport, which IS in the same price bracket, and belongs in the same class as the GT500. And show me where the Grand Sport, or any 'Vette, is classed as an "exotic", because all I can find, and all I've ever seen, is "2-door coupe" and "sports car"; the exact same classifications ALL mustangs fall under. Even Chevy themselves don't class the ZR1 as an exotic.

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@WelcomeToCarnate So your saying that a 111,000 NY price for a ZR1 is in the same price bracket as a NY 58,000 Fully loaded GT500 LMAO, besides if you are saying they are both coupes lets see the Corvette is classed as..Exotic, the Mustang is..Coupe. big difference. The Ford GT is Exotic so again not in the same class of car. if you want to compare coupes then compare Mustang to Camero. Point Final if you want Exotics then Compare Corvette to Viper to GT Point Final.

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@LuricRaja2 Also, technically, the GS and GT500 ARE in the same class; two-door coupe/sports car. "Muscle" is NOT officially recognised as a class of car when you're talking about buying and/or selling. And NASCAR racers and F1 cars are NOT in the same price bracket at all. Factoring in designing, building and the costs of running them, a single F1 car costs MILLIONS of dollars. A NASCAR racer is in the hundreds of thousands.

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@LuricRaja2 The GT-R costs a good 30k more than either a GT500 or a 'Vette GS, so it's not in the same price bracket. Also, a Smart ForTwo will NEVER beat a GT500 or a GS anywhere. The power it would need to beat either in a drag race would likely turn the chassis into a pretzel. And on the track, the thing would flip over it it took a corner at anything above 50mph. You'd need to turn it into an entirely different car, which would run you more than the 50k+ for a GT500 or GS.