MuscleCar Tuner Showdown: HPE650/SuperSnake/SpeedfactorySRT8

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@gaku95
@gaku95 10 жыл бұрын
My head says take the camaro, but my heart says take the mustang
@elkzadorjp
@elkzadorjp 7 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Paz exactly.
@poorcomboz3577
@poorcomboz3577 6 жыл бұрын
Factssss
@chrisalvarez7768
@chrisalvarez7768 4 жыл бұрын
Same but my lungs say challenger.
@AndrewHangdrummerforGod
@AndrewHangdrummerforGod 3 жыл бұрын
Vin diesel says take the challenger
@anthonylaudano9751
@anthonylaudano9751 2 жыл бұрын
IT'S AMAZING HOW MUCH DIFFERENCE TIRES MAKE ON BOTH OF MY SUPER SNAKES.SHELBY AMERICAN WAY UNDER SIZED THE TIRES AND TIRES THAT AREN'T REALLY THAT STICKY AND WITH 650HP IN MY CONVERTIBLE AND 900HP IN MY COUPE LOL YOU REALLY MEED A VERY STICKY TIRE.
@cokeakoala5184
@cokeakoala5184 8 жыл бұрын
If you don't like these cars you're not American and if you're not American that's ok you can still redeem yourself by liking these cars
@bleach8672
@bleach8672 8 жыл бұрын
you speak the truth
@ricardoalcaraz8910
@ricardoalcaraz8910 8 жыл бұрын
Coke a Koala its not american if its not stick
@ricardoalcaraz8910
@ricardoalcaraz8910 8 жыл бұрын
Coke a Koala these cars are born to be standard not gay automatic
@ethantremblay779
@ethantremblay779 7 жыл бұрын
Ricardo Alcaraz damn right
@Floridacarclub
@Floridacarclub 6 жыл бұрын
Coke a Koala bwahhhhh
@edd3055
@edd3055 10 жыл бұрын
well I like how the challenger sounds at the dynamo it reminds alot to a classic muscle car
@NICKydex01
@NICKydex01 10 жыл бұрын
The HPE650 went 11.9 @ 121 vs. the Super Snake's 12.0 @ 120, and that is "absolutely destroyed"?
@brandondoom4368
@brandondoom4368 9 жыл бұрын
Right because it was so much quicker while the mustang slipped through 1st and 2nd gear.
@JavierCR25
@JavierCR25 9 жыл бұрын
Yep...dont see the "absolutely destroyed" part... plus, the Camaro is a 6.2 SC, the Shelby is 5.4 SC, much more power much less cubic inches...
@NICKydex01
@NICKydex01 9 жыл бұрын
Brandon Doom That is one soft spot for the Performance Mustangs. They never seem to have tires and breaks that are as high-performance as the rest of the car. Put some wider tires and bigger breaks that are more resistant to fade! Sure, a customer/owner can spend a couple grand and get new tires and breaks, but why not just include them from the factory? It may add $1,000 - $2,000 to the sticker, but when you are buying a performance car, I don't think that the extra price is going to make any buyers walk away.
@JavierCR25
@JavierCR25 9 жыл бұрын
NICKydex01 True, but just a set of NItto N555Rs should do the trick, its a lot of power to the wheels.
@SES10M
@SES10M 9 жыл бұрын
JavierCR25 your comment lack of knowledge the LS engine its a pushrod v8 they lack of breathing power so they need to be bigger but they tent to have more torque and be more reliable due to is simple valve-train plus a 7.0 litters LS engine its actually smaller and lighter than a 5.0 coyote, difference engines... comparing oranges to aples
@ILB769
@ILB769 10 жыл бұрын
"Challenger comes with sticky dunlop tires" *shows picture of the car with bridgestones Lol
@DragSociety
@DragSociety 8 жыл бұрын
Lol 11.9 is destroying 12.0 according the senior editor
@crystaltube6972
@crystaltube6972 8 жыл бұрын
Ford are fords enough said
@grahamcouture6786
@grahamcouture6786 7 жыл бұрын
aint stock and 12.5 is just behind 12.0 at the same time. Biased? Yep.
@anthonylaudano9751
@anthonylaudano9751 5 жыл бұрын
I own a 2010 grabber bluegt500supersnake with just a tune and my car on drag tires ran a 10.00 at 140mph plus. So with the proper tire the camero and challenger didn't have a chance period. Also before people comment if you don't own a supersnake or a fast car keep your opinions too your self.
@anthonylaudano9751
@anthonylaudano9751 5 жыл бұрын
These test numbers are pathetic wrong.I own a 900hp 2010 super snake.Iam not a race car driver and I have been 10.00 at 140 plus at the track.My super snake has more power than the one shone.But the huge difference are tires.I took off the stock 275s and put 305s on the rare and what a huge difference. I tried running the stock 275s at the track and I literally couldn't get the car to hook until I was in 4th gear.I don't care how much power you have if you can't put it down your not winning. So to run a 12.00 here and the car spinning the tires until you hit 3rd gear is very fast.So tires make a gigantic difference.
@anthonylaudano9751
@anthonylaudano9751 3 жыл бұрын
I agree.What most people don't know is that the super snake here is the base 635hp version.The Kenny Bell is the 850hp version.I have a 10 grabber blue super snake with well over 800hp.The other issue here is the tires are just not wide enough.My 2 super snakes have perelli P Zeroes but just a set of 305s on the rare.Does it stop the wheels just going up in smoke YES.Much better.The super snake here is a 10 just like my SS.But between having a lot more power and traction EQUALS game over for the camero and challenger.Like I said most people really didn't know the SS HERE WAS THE BASE VERSION.
@StandardRacing
@StandardRacing 9 жыл бұрын
So the Camaro running 1/10th of a second and 1 mph quicker than the Shelby is equal to "absolutely destroying?" Holy shit. In my 20+ years of drag racing I always just called that a slight win.
@happay4834
@happay4834 9 жыл бұрын
20 years...... Right
@soundwave6083
@soundwave6083 10 жыл бұрын
Oh well, I will take the Mustang since Ford didn't need a Government bailout!
@ultrakev9
@ultrakev9 10 жыл бұрын
RIGHT ON BROTHER
@MiguelMartinez-fv9uj
@MiguelMartinez-fv9uj 10 жыл бұрын
lol and they already paid it back with interest which our government can't seem to do?
@grahamcouture6786
@grahamcouture6786 7 жыл бұрын
Brandon Sivek GM=Government Motors
@covingtonwildman
@covingtonwildman 5 жыл бұрын
Y'all are uneducated morons. Ford has taken government money. Look it up morons, all you ewww Government Motors , least GM has paid back all their loans, Ford has not. Those are facts., and unless you're a complete moron, they are undeniable.
@anthonylaudano9435
@anthonylaudano9435 3 ай бұрын
I LOVE IT AND I NEVER EVER THOUGHT THAT I WOULD OWN A REAL SUPERSNAKE LET ALONE 2 SUPERSNAKES
@Sevan_UP
@Sevan_UP 9 жыл бұрын
The super shake was the most prettiest, and that challenger engine sounded beastly, fucking loved it.
@Terryshowedup
@Terryshowedup 11 жыл бұрын
So all 3 of the dynos sounded AMAZING.. loved the mustang! the camaro was awesome! and the challenger was beastly!
@joanquesada1
@joanquesada1 11 жыл бұрын
3,572 people agree that the camaro is the true victor 338 people just cant stand second place, if you don't like the car go get a bike
@oreocs1571
@oreocs1571 10 жыл бұрын
The Challenger Sounds More Beast Then All Of Them Other Cars
@parnveerbining5163
@parnveerbining5163 9 жыл бұрын
nah chevy's LS MOTOR blows i think it sounds better
@parnveerbining5163
@parnveerbining5163 9 жыл бұрын
nah chevy's LS MOTOR blows i think it sounds better
@anthonylaudano9751
@anthonylaudano9751 2 жыл бұрын
IT'S AMAZING HOW MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE TIRES MADE WHEN I CHANGED THE STOCK 275s ON THE RARE TO A SET OF REALLY STICKY 305s ON THE RARE OF MY 2010 900 HP SUPER SNAKE.LOL DID IT COMPLETELY STOP THE TIRES FROM BREAKING LOOSE NO LOL WHEN YOU HAVE 900HP WITH ROUGHLY 800TQ IT'S VERY HARD NOT TOO BREAK THE TIRES LOOSE AT ALL.
@MissPinkElf13
@MissPinkElf13 10 жыл бұрын
Ford and Chevy fans are arguing back n forth while the Challenger just chills. Lol
@Puma.predator
@Puma.predator 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when this video was released for the first time. That’s when I fell in love with the Camaro (of course Transformers was a bigger part of it). I’m already on my fourth one 😆
@frozenskipper
@frozenskipper 11 жыл бұрын
"Absolutely destroys"? The HPE650 was 0,1 second faster down the 1/4 mile than the shelby, even with the traction issues. If the shelby actually got a driver capable of launching it well, it would easily beat the camaro.
@TheeAbstractHero
@TheeAbstractHero 11 жыл бұрын
These guys have been in a few cars in their lifetime, and I'm fairly certain they launched it the best the car could do. Stop being a fanboy.
@frozenskipper
@frozenskipper 11 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure they didn't, considering there was wheelspin. A perfect launch would have no wheel spin, simple as that.
@chris4540
@chris4540 6 жыл бұрын
By the way if you dont have the right tires you cant launch perfect and a perfect launch does have wheelspin only very very little
@superchevy8844
@superchevy8844 6 жыл бұрын
No it can't 0 to 60 3.7 vs 4.1 ???
@janiehuai848
@janiehuai848 5 жыл бұрын
Also pretty sure it wasn't the driver more the wheels don't be a fanboy and also factor in track times and the other stuff too
@GotHoesProductions
@GotHoesProductions 10 жыл бұрын
The sad thing is the HPE650 package by Henessey only modify's the engine, the brakes and suspension are standard on the Camaro SS! This isn't even the Camaro ZL1 its just the SS and it whooped Shelby's ass! People saying this is aftermarket on the Camaro's part are idiots, Shelby is aftermarket and always was! He made his own cars and is more well known then Shelby. This made the car look like a joke its braking and handling was garbage and lost to a challenger. I drove a gt500 around the race track in las vegas for $200. I drove the ZL1, Shelby, and Challenger, and let me say the ZL1 by far won when it comes to handling and 0-60 time. The Shelby has a weird 2nd gear chirp you can see in this video, everytime it hits 2nd gear inside the car its feels very strange like something is going to break and makes a weird sound! Overall you must look at price the Camaro SS is about $30,000 plus the HPE650 package that's around $50,000, cheaper than the GT500 super snake and way faster plus it sounds so much better. Sorry ford fans you got your ass kicked
@christiaansteege6884
@christiaansteege6884 10 жыл бұрын
Love camaro's
@nusterrab9286
@nusterrab9286 10 жыл бұрын
No Obama whipped there ass without him you just see smoke
@nusterrab9286
@nusterrab9286 10 жыл бұрын
Funny I beat a New SS Camaro with my SHO 2014 he was so pissed he is trading his car for a RT 6.4 and he doesnt know it yet but i just beat one yesterday i dont have the heart to tell him
@anthonylaudano9435
@anthonylaudano9435 Жыл бұрын
WELL BROTHER I HAVE 2 SUPER SNAKES AND MY COUPE IS A 10 GRABBER BLUE KENNY BELL SUPER SNAKE AND ON SLICKS AND A TUNE WITH STOCK EXHAUST AND I HAVE RAN LOW 10S AT CLOSE TO 140MPH LOL SO A SET OF LONG TUBES AND NO CATS IT CAN EVEN BE FASTER AND MY 07 427 EDITION CONVERTIBLE SUPER SNAKE IS NO SLOUCH IT HAS ROUGHLY 650HP TOO 700HP AND IT'S A MID 11 SECOND CAR ALL DAY AND WHEN I BUY MY 07 09 COUPE SS I PLAN ON BUYING THE HOLE SHOT PACKAGE FROM SHELBY AMERICAN AND THEN I WILL BE OVER A 1000HP AND IT'S REALLY GOING TO ADD TO THE VALUE OF A STOCK 07 09 SUPER SNAKE.
@WarPanda409
@WarPanda409 11 жыл бұрын
everyones fighting between the shelby and camaro and im here still loving that Challenger :D
@HOSSMCGILLICUTTI
@HOSSMCGILLICUTTI 8 жыл бұрын
Things were different back in 09' I think Dodge may have something for Hennessey these days.
@johnnygat8949
@johnnygat8949 8 жыл бұрын
I obviously favor the mustang but i love all these cars but they should have put them in a straight line
@lincolnquilty3464
@lincolnquilty3464 8 жыл бұрын
nice profile pic
@TurboClashShowdownss
@TurboClashShowdownss 10 ай бұрын
I'm more of a mustang fan but give me that camaro all day every day
@BULLET2246
@BULLET2246 10 жыл бұрын
I think the challenger did great considering it's all stock just for the suspension compared to the other having blowers
@bomber957
@bomber957 10 жыл бұрын
Now let's see the HPE1000 eat up the 2013 GT500 Super Snake! Sad that Ford puts so much work into changing up the engine and what not when GM tuners can literally slap larger turbos or superchargers on their LS engines and produce more power...
@anthonylaudano9751
@anthonylaudano9751 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry brother what you don't is the blower tested here isn't the KENNY BELL 2.8 that put out a lot more power than the whipple.Also on street tires that were way to small for the power.How do i know this i happen too own 2 supersnakes and i know what there really capable of and back in 2007 my supersnake ran a 10.87 at 134mph.So way faster than the challenger and the camero.Also my 10 supersnake has more power than my 07 so my 10 supersnake has roughly 100 more hp than my 07 SS.So tires and the real blower being my KENNY BELL shows clearly it be the faster car here.As for the 13 14 supersnakes there the fastest supersnakes ever.So get my point. Sorry just a fact.
@johng539
@johng539 11 жыл бұрын
Just amazing! Good job guys, I am a chevy guy all daylong, but I do believe the Shelby would beat the Camaro with out any issues, you say with tires, the Shelby would of win the race? I agree, have you seen the real videos of the Shelby beating ferrari 's? And the top cars out there? And the famous z06? Yea it's that fast guys! It's that fast.....
@mr.c493
@mr.c493 10 жыл бұрын
Who gives a shit if the camaro won or the mustang or the challenger, just buy the muscle car you like, shut up about it and enjoy driving it. There's one thing for sure, you will always turn heads, why? Cause you are driving a badass muscle car that has a lot of history and represents who u are. So for those of u who only watch KZbin videos, can't afford any of the three, just don't make comments. And please stop criticizing any of these beautiful cars. All I know is that in the end your car will always be the best car on the road, at least that's how I feel about my '14 mustang gt. I love my Eleanor! !!!
@Ipuffyy
@Ipuffyy 9 жыл бұрын
Why would you put a Mustang with that much HP with shit tires? give it some proper track tires and it will beat the camaro
@BrendanOgorden
@BrendanOgorden 9 жыл бұрын
Van Romondt that not the point of the video, they run what the builders give them. they drive what they get handed.
@Sahadi420
@Sahadi420 9 жыл бұрын
Brendan92298 Yeah, but it's dumb to compare cars with different tires. That's like you putting 87 octane in your car, and 110 in mine, and then me saying how my engine is better because it's getting more power. I get that it's a "tuner war" and your comment makes sense.......but it would be nice to see the three cars with the same shoes. Kinda dumb to say that "the Shelby Mustang has too many traction issues".....when a set of tires will really help it out.
@ThomasKimbler
@ThomasKimbler 9 жыл бұрын
+Van Romondt Hey Shelby puts those tires on because they wear down so damned fast. The idea is they don't want to waste money on Dunlops and Hankooks if they're going to burn up faster from driving.
@chevykillr1116
@chevykillr1116 9 жыл бұрын
+Van Romondt p-zeros?
@jamesrickabaugh596
@jamesrickabaugh596 9 жыл бұрын
Van the point is to put those cars with the normal full stock cars together why mod a modded car. Just face it camaro is the best
@DiedrichKnickerbocker1783
@DiedrichKnickerbocker1783 11 жыл бұрын
Motor Trend did it again. Why not run them all on the same tires? Or are the tires apart of tuners package?
@thatdrummerkid2348
@thatdrummerkid2348 10 жыл бұрын
I want all 3 :)
@Nowheretorun7
@Nowheretorun7 10 жыл бұрын
Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat 707 HP 650 Torque 0-60 in 3.5 Seconds Quartermile in 10.8 Seconds (confirmed for 10 second car) Price: $59,000 The king is back
@youngnutsack17
@youngnutsack17 10 жыл бұрын
LOL TFLC couldn't even get it to do a 0-60 below high 4's haha
@Grisbane
@Grisbane 10 жыл бұрын
yet they admit in the very beginning they are bringing the gimped version of the challenger to "keep things fair" which basically means.. the camaro and mustang at full power have no chance against the full power challenger
@STARFIGHT88
@STARFIGHT88 10 жыл бұрын
Hell yea....you know what else is sad?.......it weights more too....ford and chevy couldnt fuck with it ;)
@FrankieJames7
@FrankieJames7 10 жыл бұрын
z/28 smokes it around the track, even when it was wet...like on the nurburgring
@mathiastheriault3424
@mathiastheriault3424 10 жыл бұрын
Yeah this year the best is the Challenger SRT Hellcat . ( even if im a mustang fan )
@danielc9635
@danielc9635 11 жыл бұрын
I'm still curious what the monster motor Challenger would have done. Best track cars, maybe not the best daily driver though. I'd be curious what the reviewers opinions would be of each of these cars as such. Or maybe a combo of daily driver + track.
@duro845
@duro845 9 жыл бұрын
How can you say speed factory knows what their doing and they couldn't even get the original car to the competition
@DGAF_AK87
@DGAF_AK87 9 жыл бұрын
+geoff Apparently the transmission gave, not sure what happened exactly but they do know what they're doing
@drewinhou
@drewinhou 5 жыл бұрын
Dodge transmissions suck. I had to newer dodge pick-ups. Both had transmissions problems beyond belief. Great engines though.
@mrbadboyahmad
@mrbadboyahmad 11 жыл бұрын
thats not fair the challenger was automatic so it wont get the high RPMs
@ultrakev9
@ultrakev9 10 жыл бұрын
Okay I watched the whole thing and tires can make or break ANY car including minivans or even a Prius. So, seriously, what tires were on each car? Obviously, the Hennesy and the Speedfactory guys put some "sticky" compound tires on thier cars but what was on the Super Snake?
@FATASSSOVIET
@FATASSSOVIET 10 жыл бұрын
Well to bad the challenger wasn't a manual or the 700hp in honesty the challenger looks the best the Comaro I find is all around the best of the three, I still find Mustangs as garbage the engine is solid but the chassis and so called "tires" it has are still garbage, and the mustang hands down is the ugliest. I'm not trying to start a comment war or anything I'm just stating my opinion
@camarojoe982
@camarojoe982 10 жыл бұрын
lol I love hearing all the butthurt ford fans try to make excuses as to why the Camaro won. the Camaro wiped the floor with the mustang and if you can't accept it don't try to make excuses. even if the mustang had better tires the Camaro still would've won plain and simple. there is such a thing as too much horsepower. with that much horsepower in that car, you're gonna have a problem with traction, period.
@ScrapyardFights
@ScrapyardFights 12 жыл бұрын
hey motor trend.....the camaro doesnt have camshaft(s)
@brandondoom4368
@brandondoom4368 9 жыл бұрын
If that mustang could hook up it would run way faster.
@JDGillis
@JDGillis 9 жыл бұрын
Brandon Doom That is a Big IF.
@WrightMotorsRV
@WrightMotorsRV 9 жыл бұрын
Brandon Doom That driver sucked, that super snake is capable of 3.5 second 0-60.
@fastimeinotime23
@fastimeinotime23 9 жыл бұрын
+Mike Hunsaker The normal GT500 is capable that super snake can hook up much better with better tires and get 3 seconds i bet
@Mrpievii
@Mrpievii 9 жыл бұрын
+BattleScarGigantica Stop spreading the anti-mustang rumors dude it just makes you look like a sore loser. All the cars in this video came directly from the tuners so blame Shelby for giving the mustang shit tires. And none of them had drag radials hell, I can't recall motortrend ever putting drag radials on a car for testing. Personally, I have no hate for the Mustang. However I think the Camaro has consistently looked better and only has one ugly generation vs the Mustangs four (Only good looking mustangs are honestly first and fifth gens in my opinion). As for Speed the Camaro has always been more track capable and on par in the quarter mile but the 6th gen camaros are proving to be faster in all categories so I wouldn't be so quick to say the mustang is the king. I'd say most mustang haters are really just mustang fan haters because, geberally speaking, mustang fans are the most unreasonable. To them the mustang is the best no matter what and they don't care to look at the facts.
@tomparry4313
@tomparry4313 7 жыл бұрын
+JDGillis big IF??? Not very hard to bolt on a set of tires. And the Shelby would eat both of em'.
@SIOSpawn
@SIOSpawn 10 жыл бұрын
all the excuses come from the mods....i think it would be a more fair challenge with just top of the line stock options.
@AbuYasaeerInshallah
@AbuYasaeerInshallah 10 жыл бұрын
They already did that
@SIOSpawn
@SIOSpawn 10 жыл бұрын
Joshua Abraham who won that one?
@AbuYasaeerInshallah
@AbuYasaeerInshallah 10 жыл бұрын
Don't remember you have to watch
@sweetcheels
@sweetcheels 10 жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice that the '13 GT500 runs 0-60 at 3.5s to 3.7s. whereas they are supposed to be the "beefier" Supersnake and Hennessey is slower to 60 and in a quarter mile.
@christophermclendon2208
@christophermclendon2208 10 жыл бұрын
Gearing plays into the 0-60 mph time of the Super Snake as well , 3.73:1 vs 3.31:1 rear axle ratio . What puzzles me is the low MPH for the Super Snake through the quarter-mile. As you mentioned, the 2013-'14 GT500 runs mid 120's with a good driver .
@sweetcheels
@sweetcheels 10 жыл бұрын
Christopher McLendon my guess is because the Supersnake slipped well into the beginning of 3rd with wheel spin making it lose precious time. I bet on the Texas mile, the outcome would be different with SuperSnake vs '13-'14 GT500
@SuperDigitalMe
@SuperDigitalMe 10 жыл бұрын
Challenger looks the best! Badass car!
@Eternalsfan
@Eternalsfan 11 жыл бұрын
What do you expect its the Corvettes little brother lol
@arizonacolour8793
@arizonacolour8793 7 жыл бұрын
Corvette is trash af...
@jdmuscle1015
@jdmuscle1015 7 жыл бұрын
You're trash af...
@of_lion22
@of_lion22 11 жыл бұрын
Possible the SRT 392 model? But, I don't think that was a track pack. More of a reminiscent nod towards the good ol days.
@CrowsRevenge1
@CrowsRevenge1 10 жыл бұрын
Love all the fanboy fughting in the last few months over a 4 and half year old video. The cars and the way they perform changed radically a few months later. At the time if this video ford hadn't redone it's v8 and the camaro won hands down. When the 5.0 release it got the upper hand and walked the camaro's. But look at how much we as consumers won from the competition. So there's that. Plus the bass gt500 now has 660+ hp stock. Chevy has been fighting back and dodge is bringing back the cuda. All in all a win for everyone.
@MrMe1280
@MrMe1280 11 жыл бұрын
I'm a camaro guy but damn I gotta give it up to speed factory far less gp but it still kept up just fine. And would you mustang guys stop crying on every vid that doesn't praise it as the worlds greatest. Sorry that hpe chose a better tire Shelby could have chosen a better tire but they didn't too bad.
@jalove7
@jalove7 11 жыл бұрын
I sure would like to see more episodes like this with one exception. Independent driver's head to head racing in each category.
@sabastianriggs1101
@sabastianriggs1101 11 жыл бұрын
Not sure why it matters which is better they are just cars, They ALL are badass in some ways and are ALL shit in another way, More than likely they will ALL have the same problems in the end. I like all three and would drive all three because its just a damn car. I like ford more because of their body design and comfort, while others will say the same about dodge and chevy both. By the way for all the people arguing about how chevy is better or ford is better and so on, Doesn't matter what the hell a video says, you wont know the car and how well it is onor off the track until you ACTUALLY DRIVE THE CAR, cant talk shit about it when you have never even had one !!!
@jared062398
@jared062398 11 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, The camaro looks way more badass and is very much more badass when it comes to bragging rights.
@MrAirsoft808
@MrAirsoft808 11 жыл бұрын
Never said that what I said wasn't worse, it's just what I think of you. And wow, that was a GREAT comeback. Bravo. (sarcasm just in case you couldn't tell).
@KlipschHead281
@KlipschHead281 11 жыл бұрын
Why is it Motor Trend has no clue how to drive a Mustang, any kind of Mustang? 0 - 60 at 4.1, seriously? My lowly 2006 GT with 520hp beats that, these guys need to learn how to launch these things.
@lowridr2
@lowridr2 11 жыл бұрын
shut your fanboy ass up no cares
@ChromeWrapz
@ChromeWrapz 11 жыл бұрын
lowridr2 . how does nobody care. its a valid point.
@npham54
@npham54 11 жыл бұрын
Dude, these guys and other reviewers from other companies drive cars MUCH better than all of these and even worse day in and day out. They're not some rookie drivers that don't know how to launch a vehicle down a track or strip. Their conditions in their location is gonna be different than yours so stop bitching. Didn't you hear this guy say that it was a HOT day? Your engine isn't gonna like a hotter day than a cooler one but a hotter surface is better for your tires for traction but it didn't help the TINY tires on the Mustang. You're clearly pissed that your MUSTANG LOST in every aspect except for HP numbers to the wheel which is an embarrassment considering that it's clearly outpaced by the Camaro and surprisingly by the Challenger around the track! Shows you Shelby's ingenuity when it comes to their tire and suspension setup. You'd think such a racing legend could do better.
@KlipschHead281
@KlipschHead281 6 жыл бұрын
Awww you got butthurt over a comment? See mommy for a cookie.
@KlipschHead281
@KlipschHead281 6 жыл бұрын
He's butthurt.
@MvKSubZero
@MvKSubZero 10 жыл бұрын
Oh man, the Challenger sound beautiful. Im an import guy but damn, these are awesome.
@professorstein5855
@professorstein5855 3 жыл бұрын
"To keep things fair" they sent them a scaled down Challenger.. ok.
@chevymuscle744
@chevymuscle744 11 жыл бұрын
O na na whats my name
@28fabianz1
@28fabianz1 9 жыл бұрын
Iscrolled down before the video started to see if mustang guys were making excuses. As usual.And yes I was right, again. The tears are real. With that said, these drives suck ass. For fucks sake, how the hell do you dyno that high and barely run high 11s low 12s? lmao
@dominicsosa7405
@dominicsosa7405 8 жыл бұрын
high gear ratio
@28fabianz1
@28fabianz1 8 жыл бұрын
+Dominic Sosa my z28 has 2.73s and I've still cut 1.8 60s on little 245 nittos. at over 8000ft I'm still turning bottom 12s all day. I probably don't make 400 to the wheels lol
@Sam1986E
@Sam1986E 8 жыл бұрын
+z28fabian You got a Z28! Respect man! So did you do any mods to it? Camshaft? Air intake? Headers? I got a 2014 Camaro 1LE modded... Sweet car
@28fabianz1
@28fabianz1 8 жыл бұрын
+Sam Eb probably not what you think. Mines an old 2002. That's why I'm shaking my head. I can make my old ass car run the same as these new ones with gobs more power. Lol. Just the usual bolt ons and a little 224/224 112 cam
@1978alexn
@1978alexn 11 жыл бұрын
Well, the Boss 302 is a distinct and separate model, much like the Camaro ZL1 or the Shelby GT500. More than a hop-up package, the Boss goes so far as to have a unique engine relative to the standard GT. The GT Track Pack is simply an option on top of the base GT that adds equipment to make it better suited for hot lapping. Similarly, the SS 1LE is an option package for the base SS to serve the same purpose. We could go on about trick bits and pieces all day.
@XCUDDLES97
@XCUDDLES97 10 жыл бұрын
Borla exhaust is a joke.
@LeNzXx
@LeNzXx 10 жыл бұрын
Hellcat can take them out Stock
@austinvogelsong4661
@austinvogelsong4661 10 жыл бұрын
lololololololololol ok
@tangelsturner7913
@tangelsturner7913 7 жыл бұрын
LeNzGaming the if they were stock the hellcat would be last it would only be good on the Dino not the track if this was fair with the camaro ZL1 the Shelby would smoke ass
@hmackprotection1
@hmackprotection1 7 жыл бұрын
Tangels Turner, what the FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??!
@poorcomboz3577
@poorcomboz3577 6 жыл бұрын
In a straight line
@poorcomboz3577
@poorcomboz3577 6 жыл бұрын
But it can't hook. 😂
@doubletapproductions
@doubletapproductions 11 жыл бұрын
Please Motor Trend, do a Saleen comparison! Saleen has a Mustang a Challenger and a Camaro! Please do a comparison of all 3!!!
@jadgeagea8
@jadgeagea8 11 жыл бұрын
every comparison between CAMARO and shelby. the camaro wins. stop making excused ford fans. well idk camaro wins every time :)
@The305Garage
@The305Garage 11 жыл бұрын
I'm a Ford fan, and agree with this. The Camaro IS the better vehicle.
@theoriginaldimi
@theoriginaldimi 11 жыл бұрын
werto147 . C'mon bro, tell us how you really feel
@mansmarosen7347
@mansmarosen7347 10 жыл бұрын
it's a stock mustang.
@capcomblue1994
@capcomblue1994 10 жыл бұрын
GM cheated with the Camaro by giving independent suspension. and Corvette chassis just to top the Mustang and challenger. so thats' no Camaro. that's a Cormaro. :/
@capcomblue1994
@capcomblue1994 10 жыл бұрын
I'm also a Ford fan, but it comes to cornering. the Camaro is simply the better car. anti gravity independent suspension when it picks up speed it squats like a drag car giving it more traction. with two cars with straight axle like the Mustang and Challenger don't handle very well. if the the Mustang and Challenger had independent suspension. maybe just maybe the Mustang and Challenger would win by a hair probably.
@hellarice5672
@hellarice5672 10 жыл бұрын
Henessy is thevworlds fastedt carvmanufacture so chevyvdidn't do crap.
@jared062398
@jared062398 10 жыл бұрын
LOL neither did Ford
@nicconley
@nicconley 10 жыл бұрын
Hennessey is what?? Hahaha... You guys kill me. Hennessey is NOTHING MORE than a tuning facility that hangs aftermarket parts on cars. Hennessey manufactures nothing. They are a great tuner shop and build some great stuff, but dont confuse someone who actually designs and builds cars with shops who modify and improve those cars.
@terrysanderson5815
@terrysanderson5815 10 жыл бұрын
haha so Shelby isn't an aftermarket tuner ?
@GOLONGBOARD11
@GOLONGBOARD11 11 жыл бұрын
It does get more than 662 at the crankshaft, they tested for the horsepower at the wheels which is always less because of friction and such.
@hellridersofcalgary
@hellridersofcalgary 11 жыл бұрын
mustangs are common and blah Camaros are and always have been better all round all mustangs are is lots of horsepower on shitty chassis
@KlipschHead281
@KlipschHead281 11 жыл бұрын
What are you, 15?
@hellridersofcalgary
@hellridersofcalgary 11 жыл бұрын
no all the reviews support my statement your come back is much more immature than my wording
@eidolonbreed
@eidolonbreed 11 жыл бұрын
This was a biased as shit comparison on the side of the Camaro. Super Snake destroys any Camaro.
@entropy156
@entropy156 10 жыл бұрын
Except it doesn't.
@insanepickleboy
@insanepickleboy 11 жыл бұрын
I'm not suprised hennessey won a tuning challenge. Kind of obvious, they're hennessey. What else would you expect from them?
@jared062398
@jared062398 11 жыл бұрын
LOL at all these ford fan boys making excuses why the mustang lost. The camaro is better, even motor trend says so. So shut up.
@mansmarosen7347
@mansmarosen7347 10 жыл бұрын
the mustang has crappy tires and they screwed up the launch
@jared062398
@jared062398 10 жыл бұрын
No they didnt. It was the same guy driving all 3 of the cars. If he screwed up 1 then he screwed up all 3. But it doesn't matter, as long a American muscle beats imports, everything is all good
@xaperez1000
@xaperez1000 10 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is the other cars are all modded and that's a stock super snake lmao obviously the other cars should be better buttttt not by much even with all the mods they put on those shitttt cars
@jared062398
@jared062398 10 жыл бұрын
Actually the Super Snake is modded. Ford sends it to Carol Shelby to put an intake, exhaust and supercharger on it. Soooo, your argument is invalid
@maansroversinghmann1194
@maansroversinghmann1194 10 жыл бұрын
Chevy is good, but the only thing ford lacks is wide tires. its the only thing that messes with the snake. if it came factory stock with Shelby's wide body kid seen on the new super snake rear wheels 345's can take 355's with fender rolling. fyi 850 hp motor trend tested
@ps31871
@ps31871 9 жыл бұрын
why dont they fkn put the same fkn tires on three of them?? at least make it fare with the fkn tires!
@robgindc1
@robgindc1 4 жыл бұрын
2:58 - "So hold on tight; it's going to be a wild ride." Said with the least excitement, emphasis, tone or inflection EVER! Yeah...NO, dude, video narrator isn't in your wheelhouse.
@SportsMusicCars
@SportsMusicCars 2 жыл бұрын
He's always been monotone and not exciting at all. Not sure who picks these people over there.
@rubens1977
@rubens1977 10 жыл бұрын
Where can I get those camaros wheels?😍😍😍
@Foodogg
@Foodogg 12 жыл бұрын
As much as I love Mustangs, the Camaro does beat it in performance. Then again, when it comes to racing, it all depends on who knows what and who has the more souped-up car.
@TPBeastt
@TPBeastt 11 жыл бұрын
Look at video date... It's 2009, ZL1 wasn't in production yet.
@tjadamsZ06
@tjadamsZ06 11 жыл бұрын
Mr. Loh is a Sr. Editor at Motor Trend yet he thinks a 5th Generation Camaro's LS3 engine has a "cylinder head" (singular) with "camshafts" (plural)???? Seriously?
@TheSuperlativecritic
@TheSuperlativecritic 12 жыл бұрын
What? Don't be ignorant. Motortrend's 2012 Driver's car of the year included both the GT500 and the ZL1, and the GT500 beat the ZL1 at both the track time and drag strip time. GT500 got criticism for brake fade, but who goes to the track without dot4 brake fluid and track pads?
@holden539
@holden539 11 жыл бұрын
@clyde5491 the Shelby is not modified you can buy it from a dealer and that's how Shelby makes them you cannot buy a Hennessy car from a dealer and they already take the upgraded version of the camaro
@alagy
@alagy 12 жыл бұрын
says who ? what is the difference between the camaro and the challenger ? both V8, 2 doors, 4 seats RWD and both have a bad ass look
@Another64driver
@Another64driver 11 жыл бұрын
Entertaining comparis on video. Would have liked to have seen what the promised Challenger would have done in comparison as opposed to the one that was delivered since it seemed pretty to keep the competition close throughout the entire test while spotting the others 200 hp
@beng808
@beng808 10 жыл бұрын
Why would they use an automatic challenger?
@TomHoldsworth667
@TomHoldsworth667 11 жыл бұрын
"Their SRT8 makes up for it with sticky Dunlop tyres" so why does it quite clearly say Bridgestone on the tyre? Hmm..
@duaneknight631
@duaneknight631 11 жыл бұрын
Check out the 650 HP supercharged Hennessey Challenger 392 HEMI as it screams around Lonestar Motorsports Park.
@rock1320
@rock1320 11 жыл бұрын
So why did they not run all 3 cars on the same tyres to get real time impressions and make it an even evaluation?
@elpablosky6300
@elpablosky6300 6 жыл бұрын
Makes a video w the new versions of this cars
@Rampage4reel
@Rampage4reel 11 жыл бұрын
Which one has the most horsepower and a warranty. The Shelby so it wins. Yes it does have a factory warranty with the Super Snake upgrade
@willval1406
@willval1406 12 жыл бұрын
the shelby gt500 had traction control and i dont think that they turned it on so that's probably why the tires were spinning
@xebrazylophone
@xebrazylophone 11 жыл бұрын
how r u going 2 have and automatic in the mix¿
@fread51
@fread51 11 жыл бұрын
aftermarket not supersnake: they build them at shelbyamerican in Las Vegas, NV
@SportsMusicCars
@SportsMusicCars 2 жыл бұрын
Just put some wider stickier tires and maybe a 3.55 in the stang and it should be quicker off the line with less tq multiplication to cause all that unnecessary wheel spin. And with less rear gear, it will hold the gears a bit longer. Prob run a mid 11 at that point.
@Garf2O
@Garf2O 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah people really like short gearing for some reason, even if it ends up making the car slower, i like longer gearing cause id rather have more mph per gear than quicker acceleration in most cases but thats just me.
@SavageJim01
@SavageJim01 11 жыл бұрын
You are one lucky guy to even have that opportunity. Hennesy is totally badass. They took Vipers and made them supercar level. Now, they do the same with Caddys and Camaros. Hell, Hennessy even made the Ford GT a totally supercar level car. When you get there, good luck and soak everything in, they are true masters of what they do, taking American cars & trucks & making them superior to just about anything on the road!
@MrTravisjl
@MrTravisjl 11 жыл бұрын
I really am baffled at those performance numbers! I bought a 2000 ss hardtop 6spd in 2006 with 21,000km on it.I put $10,000CND(includes duty charges and shipping) from LM performance in Florida. Heads/cam, ls6 manifold, cold air, clutch, tuner, full slp exhaust front to back and the normal suspension upgrades. Paid $22,000 for the car plus the mods low thirties car. ran on street tires with 3.42 gears best et...12.1 at 117mph. How can they be so slow?
@Mattso92
@Mattso92 11 жыл бұрын
Technically this was supposed to be an aftermarket competition too. However the Shelby Super Snake is a production vehicle. Had they gotten a Roush, the results for the mustangs may have been far different.
@PyroBlonde7777
@PyroBlonde7777 10 жыл бұрын
I understand that the Challenger was the slowest. But you have to give it credit. It had sooo much less power and was heavier yet it didn't fall to far behind the Super Snake. It even beat it on the track. It braked very well too. If they could of shown up with the right SRT8 they could have won. But oh well
@briancenti5423
@briancenti5423 11 жыл бұрын
love to see what both the chevy and the ford would do with DR's out back.
@19crazydude
@19crazydude 12 жыл бұрын
why wasnt the challenger supercharged and why was the chevy using a dodge transmission????
@PumaPete
@PumaPete 12 жыл бұрын
I have a 2012 Shelby and traction is a huge problem. Its very difficult to keep her planted. I need better tires!
@Lukos0036
@Lukos0036 11 жыл бұрын
The auto transmissions Chrysler is putting in their cars come with paddle shifters. Whatever your feelings about manual paddle shifters are faster between gears. So their thought was likely flying through the gears out of corners. A tactic that has worked well for F1 racers.
@IPlayTerribleGames
@IPlayTerribleGames 8 ай бұрын
That challenger sounds absolutely amazing
@D_day1969
@D_day1969 11 жыл бұрын
Damn the Challenger brought a knife to a gun fight would've liked to have seen the 700 HP Challenger that was originally supposed to have been there Hennessey HPE makes a 750 package too and they go up to 1000HP with a warranty!
@anthonylaudano9751
@anthonylaudano9751 5 жыл бұрын
Yah I own a 2010 supersnake and dead stock.The car runs 10.00 at 140mph.When I take off the cats and put the long tubes on with a h pipe with no cats and a tune.I really think I can run 9s easily.
@clyde5491
@clyde5491 11 жыл бұрын
Put bigger tires on the Shelby.May give it better grip but i bet it lowers the torque curve a bit as well.
@mauriciomiranda9329
@mauriciomiranda9329 9 жыл бұрын
My friends stock gt500 makes 11.8 how is it that the super snakes does 12.0 and I live in Bad altitude
@timjenkins502
@timjenkins502 11 жыл бұрын
Yea they should have had a Charger super bee supercharged. It would have had close to 600 hp. The come stock with 480
@1978alexn
@1978alexn 11 жыл бұрын
No, they are after market. They are not testing tuner cars as they are. That means that I could of put better parts to the mustang, to not have that traction problem. Witch they are stating in the video. that, that was the mustangs down side.The aftermarket provides a wide variety of parts of varying qualities and prices for nearly all vehicle makes and models on the road. So how is it fair when i can put better parts to make my car perform better?
@TheRedWon
@TheRedWon 11 жыл бұрын
I love the look of a Challenger, it's really badass. But I've never seen a Challenger beat a Mustang OR a Camaro... ever. If you can link me to a video where a Challenger does, great, but I've never found one.
@AndrewIanDodge
@AndrewIanDodge 11 жыл бұрын
Love the GTR lurking in the background.
@killx5546
@killx5546 7 жыл бұрын
Why the video picture is like 100p
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