2013-01-18 NSFRI - Homer - Iliad (Books 15 and 16) - Zeus and Hera in Harmony

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2013-01-18 NSFRI - Homer - Iliad (Books 15 and 16) - Zeus and Hera in Harmony: The Influence of Divine Forces in Human Affairs
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Original Locationarchive.org/de... LicenseCC BY-NC-ND 4.0 International LicensePlease Help Support the ProjectLike these videos? Please consider supporting Pierre, the NS, and our archiving activity by giving a small amount monthly to support our work.Go to noeticsociety.org and the 'Support the Project' section. Look for the Paypal or other link.We'd love it if you chose to 'Make this a monthly donation', as well -- rather than just one-time -- in whatever small amount is within your regular monthly budget.Thank you!Original TitleThis video was previously published under the title, “Miracles and How the Influence of the Gods is Expressed”SynopsisThe discussion continues the themes and questions asked during previous explorations of The Iliad, with Pierre and NS participants focusing on two themes in particular: what followed from Zeus revealing his will for the Trojan War to Hera despite her deceiving him (see Book 14), and the influence of divine force in human affairs.HighlightsDo you think the Gods exist?Do you think there is any divine force at work in human affairs?In what kind of actions or activities do you think such influence could be known?Among these possible influences, is it possible that they would be hierarchically arranged?Consider: Among such influences, could one be higher or more profound than the others?Zeus got together with Hera. How did he respond to her? What followed from it? He divulges the will of Zeus. What’s the relationship with his willingness to do that to someone who has just tricked him? How do you account for that? Should there be any connection between the two?Is Zeus now bringing order in the heavens?What circumstances do these warriors attribute to divine (Gods) influences?What do you call a miracle in Homer?Among the Gods, do some function on a higher, more reflective level? When? Under what circumstances?Can you compare prayer in the modern world to what is going on among the Hellenics? When is it done? How? What kind of an appeal? For what?Technical IssuesThere is a low humming noise from 18:34 to 22.31. It sounds like someone left the door open to the space where the NS meets and so the hum is the sound from the outside. Perhaps.Other ResourcesMap showing both Akhaians and Trojan forces and what cities they come fromOnline text of Homer's Iliad:Juan and Maria Balboa translation of Homer's IliadRichard Lattimore translation with the Greek textGreek only text of the IliadRobert Fitzgerald translationCreditsCamera: MartyV and YoniGOriginal Title and Preservation: StefanREditorial Review, Title, Synopsis, and Highlights: DarleneAMore InfoPierre Grimes and Philosophical MidwiferyThe Noetic SocietyThe Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society collection here on archive.org.