2015 RAM 3500 vs Ford F-350 MPG Review: And the most fuel efficient Dually is...

[@Stokesman101]

Great video again guys. I want to give props to your camera guy as well. Great job with the various shots and angle. Oh and a sweet plus is the HD video. Kent is so smart, he thinks about all the details reflecting his knowledge of towing and truck

[@noblekitty]

Excellent number! When I was towing my 93 Land cruiser, I got about 14 mpg with my diesel truck as well. Except we were doing around 75mph instead of 65.

[@grandjourney5823]

Is TFL hiring?? I love what you guys do!

[@Fordguy1997]

Nice thorough test. You guys are doing a great job eliminating bias and other experimental errors. I'm curious to see how much the fuel economy would improve without the Bronco at the back.

[@BBTthetank]

Fordguy1997 How were you able to comment "3 days ago" when TFL just uploaded this video?

[@MrCarGuy]

BBTthetank HAHA. Exactly. What the hell!?

[@lonespartan31289]

MrCarGuy20 He probably has them backed on patreon so he has access to the videos sooner

[@Fordguy1997]

BBTthetank TFL uploads videos early and just limits access to them to those with the link. If you look in playlists, you can find them early.

[@BBTthetank]

Fordguy1997 Ah okay, cool! Thanks!

[@MrMister1227]

Man i love this truck channel, best and only guys thats doing this kind of content keep it up!

[@406Steven]

I think Ken's explanation of the DEF tank was spot-on. The EcoDiesel is made for people who want a truck but rarely (if ever) use it as one so they want to enhance the experience by not making people buy DEF every tank--the dealer just tops it off every oil change and the owner never has to worry about it (I work at a VW dealership and we top off the DEF tank each oil change for the same reason). HD truck buyers have already come to grips with the fact that they have to buy DEF so they might as well save space and weight on the truck and make people buy DEF more often--if the gas station has a pump it isn't that big of an inconvenience.

[@3rdGenGuy]

The duramax gets the best MPG of the 3 because they didn't go all crazy in the torque war. but the cummins is the far superior engine.

[@chrisdsltech]

Thats pretty Damn impressive for a dually with 4.10s and a mile above sea level just imagine unloaded,deleted with very minimal elevation what the fuel economy would be. 65mph is a good speed for me to drive with a truck that big

[@jlen82]

Those trucks look great! You guys have an awesome job.

[@rdmccun]

you guys are the BEST! glad iv been subcribed

[@rdmccun]

rdmccun subscribed*

[@michaelreece9106]

Keep up the good work. ..i would like to see maybe a 100 mile round trip but this is still good..i think the ford wil be the same as long as it doesn't do a regeneration.that will kill the mpg alot... but who knows the dodge could have done I cycle..a friend of mine just bought a 2015 Dodge 2500 with the 6.4 gas. Laramie quad cab. It is a beautiful truck but I wouldn't buy.

[@WorldWideTechNews]

Not gonna lie. That Ford is very appealing.

[@NordicNevs]

i think you meant appalling lol

[@cameronbrule7912]

C Nevs I think you're wrong.

[@NordicNevs]

Cameron Brule You have a right to your opinion, but thats ok. Anyone with a Ford or any emblem as their avatar is clearly a brainwashed fanboy. Meaning any argument you pose is invalid by nature.

[@cameronbrule7912]

C Nevs And you know what, I can support my opinion. You can't support your little quick claim that I'm a "brainwashed fan-boy". I like Ford and I can say why, so I'm brainwashed? That's great to know - Next time that I see a friend post a picture of themselves as their profile picture on social media, I'll be sure to tell them that they're brainwashed about them-self. Put it in perspective.

[@NordicNevs]

again invalid

[@christianmarquez4275]

dodge - 14.2mpg for those who want to really know. They don't include the ford in this video... you have to watch part 2 smh

[@jimmyg4186]

thanks I almost wasted 14min

[@jackle842000]

Ford was 2 mpg less in the next vid

[@rdmccun]

11:14 I thought that he was chugging Jack Daniels for a second lol!

[@charlesmarshall2697]

I just couldn't take a chance on the Ford given the problems with their 6.0 and 6.4 engines as well as frame twist issues.

[@keithbyrd315]

International made the previous engines and Ford now makes the 6.7 themselves

[@grahamcouture6786]

Charles Marshall the 6.7L has so far proven to be a reliable engine, and the frame twist issues are gone in 2017 with a fully boxed frame front to back

[@DUDEWithDODGES]

Would love to see some more videos like this 2023 Ram 3500, F350 and Chevy 3500

[@TheMrbearhunter1]

Cummins makes a better engine. Who has ever heard of a power stroke swap ? *crickets*

[@jimmysturdevant9843]

Smaller engine. Duh. PSD has always been ahead of the game

[@wyominghorseman9172]

One thing to think about is the Cummin's doesn't break in till you hit 25 thousand miles. You can feel a power increase and a MPG increase right about there. Also there's no comparison on engine longevity.

[@TheXOoftheRO]

Exactly. This was impressive. Glad to see Ram still ahead of the bigger brands.

[@jimmysturdevant9843]

Same with the ford, and the 6.7 PSD is much much more reliable...

[@MohCars_]

Can you please do a 60-0mph test? I think braking in these heavy duty trucks is exponentially important, so it would really be useful to provide watchers with that useful information. The Fast Lane Truck

[@bandareverlast]

who cares about MPG WHEN YOU HAVE A TRUCK LIKE THIS ?!

[@TFLtruck]

People who use these trucks for business care about MPG, because it affects the bottom line of the business.

[@bandareverlast]

True.

[@AkioWasRight]

Well, I care about MPG, and I do have a truck like this.

[@jtarvid86]

I think in the long run when you own a truck like this and whether or not you use it as a work truck or a mall crawler MPG can't be too much of a concern. Although the guys are right, businesses that use these as work trucks do want better MPG's....

[@AkioWasRight]

Justin Tarvid You don't have to be in business to understand the importance of spending money wisely. If you're smart, you know every little thing counts. If you and your spouse were to spend an extra $1.00 each on each meal every day, imagine how much that will add up by the time you retire.

[@187ffkev]

Screw def I'll get the delete kit for it

[@Wmb_]

Ram 3500 towing~30,000 lbs F-350 towing~21,000 lbs

[@Hovey2229]

Why is it sometimes all of the big three manufacturers are included, and sometimes not?

[@lonewhitewolf8232]

Funny how the powerstroke fan boys say powerstroke is better, but how many of them are being used in semi trucks, firetrucks, large ships and many industrial machines? Cummins ftw

[@u9009e]

What if one truck gos through a "regen" on the run and the other doesn't? Also I've filled a heavy duty diesel truck for years and even though you try your level best to be consistent and accurate ( 2 clicks or 1) there is no way it always fills the same. Especially in this short run a very small difference in the gal amount will change the mpg significantly.

[@eugenem5244]

Agreed, these trucks need to be driven way more for more accurate numbers.

[@eugenem5244]

lonely4wd en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_particulate_filter#Regeneration

[@NordicNevs]

lonely4wd region or regeneration is the process of which the emissions system will use the Diesel Exhaust Fluid and inject it into the Diesel Particulate filter in and with the "burn" of the soot. The Urea Fluid is sprayed to create a "clean" burn. This process uses more fuel. -this is incase you don't want to read the wiki version

[@NordicNevs]

no problem at all. that is the elementary version but if gives you a general idea of it for sure.

[@larry8065]

Including *REGENERATION* is *VERY IMPORTANT*. If this truck didn't regenerate, the mpg number is virtually worthless. You have to include regen, and it likely didn't go into regen around a 43 mile trip.

[@matt4270]

FUCK THE epa! Thanks for ruining diesel trucks you shithead collection!

[@pat15964]

On the def equipped trucks getting them to go into regen is actually harder. They produce and the filters capture a lot less soot so you go from about every 100 miles on a Ford 6.4l to as much as 500 (that's not towing easy flat highway miles btw) in a 6.7

[@larry8065]

PatE624 It still depend on how you drive. When an engine is cold, DEF isn't even used, it only works at operating temps. So if you're the kind that likes to make short trips, you should expect very frequent regens. I know people that say regenerate almost every time they drive their trucks.

[@TheMILVET]

I know FLT is a Ford channel, but lets be honest. DEF storage? It will take 2 years at 120 degrees for a gallon of DEF to evaporate, when it does it converts to ammonia and gets gassed off. DEF is "not like gas". Shelf life1 year (ISO Spec 22241-3). The DEF can freeze during the winter, however the truck reheats the tank thawing it out. The SCR system handles that. I just wonder what Ford will say when they are required to use it. What comes out of a DEF treated exhaust is water and nitrogen.

[@joedirt1071]

when you tested which truck pulls better, you paired the ram 3500 against a f-450. why not do the same here?

[@cadillacman6305]

I think the next generation super duty could be one of the best looking trucks hands down except that front end. I love ram but Ford styling has gotten pretty good with the F series.

[@platinumgli]

Hopefully. But have you seen that picture of the 2017 f250? That thing is probably the ugliest truck I have ever seen a company make.

[@scrimmy6969]

Leafs Fan I have seen it as well. I agree, that is an ugly truck.

[@cadillacman6305]

Leafs Fan scrimmy6969 Where have you 2 seen it? All of the pictures on Google are wrapped. Different taste for different people I guess.

[@platinumgli]

www.digitaltrends.com/cars/2017-ford-super-duty-leaked/

[@cadillacman6305]

Leafs Fan Will say the front end is pretty bad. Ford could do with a sleeker front end the era of box chevy's are over that front end looks like a 1997 truck with a 2017 name.

[@steelernation9320]

Can't beat the sound of a diesel

[@281CubicInchesOfFreedom]

Especially if it's an old two-stroke Detroit Diesel.

[@gdtruckern7632]

Well I've got to ask. Are both trucks have the same rear end gears. The guy just said rear end gears was a 4:10 now does the ford have the same also alot of Rams has a 3:73 rear end gears. Also you figured in the def fuel cost ??

[@Jassman3536]

As I have always appreciated your tests FastLane in always trying to do your best in making these comparisons fair..Like I mentioned in the other video, and still awaiting your response...where was the accuracy in making sure these trucks in fact did a Regan..The fact is your results are not correct on the Ford for comparison and my calculations are different than yours. I think to make it fair to your viewers is do another test with these variables in place and make sure to get the same rear end ratios....Lastly, get GM to participate, A Duaramax needs to be in the mix. Thanks Guys.

[@kylefitzgerald4419]

I like the king ranch and longhorn the most out of all models. But this is a hard choice. Ones got more hp and one only has 5 pounds more of tq. Then the superduty has a 4.10 gear ratio and the ram I think is 3.93. Also both tow pretty well the same. I guess it`s the matter of what you want and what`s good for the wallet lol!

[@lesgarten]

I feel this was an Unfair test. You should have used the F-450 instead which most likely would have skewed it further toward the RAM 3500. Top of the line tower up against Top of the line tower

[@nativeoutdoors1780]

Yeah f450 vs 3500 would be an unfair test good thing they didn't do that

[@blackmantis001]

how does these trucks do as a daily driver without towing?

[@Dive-Bar-Casanova]

All Ford offers is good styling. Their quality is still unproven their dealers customer service horrible.

[@Albee213]

I dont get it, 14.2 is not bad, but then why buy a new truck? I have a used one with a v10 and can get 12 towing the same thing but does not cost me $60,000.

[@Upliftyourbrothers]

If your going to go through all the work, make the loop longer! Much better statistics! thanks

[@Upliftyourbrothers]

+Mitch and Cassie Shepherd - The biggest factor the low miles used affects is the refilling the tank, the smaller number of gallons used, the more inaccurate it will be. Use an entire tank and the average eats up any error in refilling.

[@ericgilbertsonsr4716]

I just watched a video showing the ram 3500 pulling against a f450 but now the mpg video is against a f350....

[@OmarButtcheeks]

Yeah they said the F450 was the closest competitor for the 3500, so not sure why they're using a F350 now... with a lower rear gear to get better mileage and high rear gear on the Ram.

[@shaneh734]

what app did andre use to track all of the data?

[@megan6228]

you guys NEED TO TOW MORE!!!we pull 14k pounds with our 2012 2500HD duramax and they trucks are bigger....more weight!!!

[@TheMikentyty]

You said it's tight in the fuel door but have you used an island DEF fillip? I too am curious to see if there's any issue with the nozzle on the DEF pump and the fuel door

[@jeffhorton8737]

both are good trucks

[@hitman53184]

the Ram 3500 comes with a DEF system now? Guess I'm not trading out of my 2500 any time soon.

[@aaronartis1021]

When you guys tow that army truck will you guys use the F450 Dually or the F350

[@machinegunkelly6472]

Was the RAMs Tow/Haul button activated? as it will get less mpg when turned on?

[@robbiefrentz9427]

I have a 97F350 it has really been a good truck. But i want a ram3500

[@Jordan-ql8pv]

I am going to be the only one to mention this; the photographer Tommy in the back is cute. :p

[@MrKeyboardCommando]

Jordan Hilman Have you ever been to an opticians ?

[@Jordan-ql8pv]

Yes. I have very good eyesight.

[@MrKeyboardCommando]

Jordan Hilman Which is a lot more than can be said for your taste.

[@Jordan-ql8pv]

MrKeyboardCommando What may float my boat may not float yours. Have you not figured that out yet?

[@MrKeyboardCommando]

Jordan Hilman So you like sailors ? I don't think Tommy is able.

[@stephenwerner1662]

Engine rpm has far less effect on mileage than most people believe. Wind resistance rises exponentially with speed. Running these trucks at 55 mph instead of 65 would significantly increase mpg. Don't believe me? Try it.

[@Tellyfive]

Waiting for a diesel fanboy to chime in saying his duramax gets 28mpg. Lol

[@BBTthetank]

nenofury Shiiiit, my previous truck was a duramax 2500 4x4, I was lucky to get 19 hwy when empty. Unfortunately my F150 gets worse but at least the gasoline is cheaper! xD

[@urbanmuscle21]

My duramax gets 23mpg fuck i wish it got 28

[@NordicNevs]

urbanmuscle21 My duramax gets 45 mpg, sitting with the ignition off in my driveway and me looking at it. be jealous

[@BBTthetank]

C Nevs Lol! My powerstroke gets 99 mpg with it sitting as raw material waiting to get fabricated and manufactured into a brand new truck!!!!! Beat that!!!!

[@NordicNevs]

+BBTthetank I was cheated!

[@Lukeo2412]

What are the two holes for? One is for diesel and what's the other for?

[@mitchellhancock3102]

why didn't you test the duramax?

[@sirwinuy2631]

What is the app that they used to measure the average speed, mpg, altitude, and distance?

[@fakeappellation7343]

What does Andre mean when he says pounds? Kilograms? It's confusing.

[@BBTthetank]

Nothing like watching this on the work computer with shitty slow internet. "And the mpg for the ram is..... *buffering*.......*buffering*..............

[@LlyleHunter]

Just change your setting to 480 and it will smooth everything out.

[@BBTthetank]

Bruce Solomon Lol the internet was so slow it defaulted to 144 xD. Felt like i needed cataract surgery!!

[@bisquik3006]

BBTthetank Don't worry about the mpg on a Ram. Just worry about the front end completely taking a shit.

[@LlyleHunter]

bisquik3006 All three of the big three have a habit of doing that however in the Chevy it's usually all of the just bushings as they are all very soft.

[@jtarvid86]

So maybe I missed it but why does Mr. Truck have to do all the driving?

[@LukeA_55]

why is there a huge metal plate in front of the trailer are u trying to get worse MPG?

[@BelowMinimums]

I've never had a diesel, but how often does the DEF have to be filled? It is about as often as filling up the diesel tank or longer?

[@BakuganBrawler211]

I believe it's only on the around 2008 or later sort of area you've gotta do that before then we didn't need urea/cat converters I still love myself a 2003 or older powerstroke 7.3L over most of these but a 2004.5 or so Duramax

[@lamia2super]

I've owned both trucks and the dodge with a larger rear end gets better fuel mileage and tows better all around. 15-14mpg is what i average in the dodge while the ford would do 12 or less especially when hauling. i prefer the dodge much more then the ford and i see the dodge as a tougher truck

[@ryancrow2876]

you own both of these 70,000$ trucks that just came out? highly doubt it

[@lamia2super]

lol you sir are right ! the ford was a 2012 model and i recently got the dodge 2014 as the ford was giving me problems 90k miles in. trucks are pretty similar to the older models expect for the ford which has a slightly bigger turbo and stiffer chassis. i was averaging 12mpg on a good day and 8-9mpg hauling a trailer with ford. the dodge is slower but pulls the same trailer better and gives me a little better fuel mileage even though it has a 4.10 rear end. i forgot what rear end the ford was but it was the smallest optioned rear end

[@cobraviper5287]

What about the ford mpg going into hauling rv cross country getting out of a semi

[@kawphetyme4222]

Isn't the HO 6.7 Cummins rated at 900 ft lbs?

[@MrJoshua2260]

Umm money on the ford....awesome video guy

[@richardb1720]

I like to fart on my Moms food items in the fridge and then put them back in there.

[@zackzander4425]

I sometimes put it in the wrong hole at night when I cant see. Andrea has no excuse.

[@garrettnelson2293]

Why don't they put air brakes on HD pickups.

[@TFLtruck]

+Garrett Nelson That's a good question. Perhaps, it will get there in the next 10 or so years...

[@jimmyg4186]

because you would need a class b license with an air brake endorsement to drive it.

[@garrettnelson2293]

Jimmy G Good Point.

[@arvislivingston9534]

what app was used for this test?

[@TheCarolinahonker]

what was the app Andrade was using?

[@alvilla701]

Looks like now diesel fuel is cheaper than gasoline

[@johncarder819]

That is not enough miles to be accurate. You are just not able to measure the fuel used that accurately. If you had burned 20 gallons, then the ±¼ gallon will not matter as much. That's why the truck's computer read 2mpg lower. The truck's computer is more accurate.

[@ryancrow2876]

the computers are never more accurate. only takes 2 seconds on google to find endless stories of peoples trucks claiming way different mpg than what they actually get

[@jl3222]

it gives me anxiety staring at all that shit inside the f350 engine bay, that shit looks like a nightmare of broken down on i35 minnesota lol

[@lukelacroix7921]

Where was the mpg fir the F350???

[@jackle842000]

In part 2. Ford got about 2 mpg less

[@akbychoice]

Seriously! This test is so far off base on reality. That's like timing a shot form a rifle with a stop watch.

[@gabrieliannozzi7935]

Still waiting on that ecodiesel up the gantlet LOL

[@robertnightster]

So who won

[@TFLtruck]

Please stay tuned for part 2

[@stuffjunk5019]

The Fast Lane Truck will the Fords part be posted today or is it going to be in the editing process for a another day or two?

[@TFLtruck]

stuart morse Ford part will be published tomorrow! :)

[@robertnightster]

Sounds good can't wait till Ford wins

[@jaunramirez3742]

The Fast Lane Truck hi how are you guys doing can you please do ford expedition 2015 vs Chevy tahoe 2015 0-60

[@Alviniscute]

3:09 that's all what she said...

[@xliv4evr]

Thanks for half a video

[@MichaelMiller-rg6or]

2:15 What is DEF?

[@superhotandfluffy]

your photographer weighs like 5 pounds you should of gotten someone heavier than that :p

[@guerreroqrx1929]

I feel that they like Ford better than dodge

[@vitamind0005]

Powerstroke is better not a baby cummins

[@TBONE21RZR]

Aaaaah. U guys are still using that awful Murphy fuel. Go do a branded fuel for these test. Murphy fuel is the worst fuel on the market

[@gary.darvellsessoms2955]

FORD F-350

[@DYhondaman]

I was surprised how low in mpg that Cummins is. I was expecting more. A 5.9 gets at least 3mpg better.

[@larry8065]

If the truck didn't regenerate, it's probably even worse than that.

[@gracynjohnson4098]

Your phone is off not the truck think about it why would dodge are ford make you pay so much for those trucks and them be off and your app look at the what the people say about it and I bet they say it's off

[@AB-80X]

Hahaha, so now, the F350 is the closest match to the Ram 3500? Funny, that wasn't the case when testing towing capability. I guess you don't want to test the MPG of the Furd with the 4,33 rear? Pathetic.

[@proboxpepper6752]

Who cares about that slightly different when they spend over 70k dollars on a truck...

[@Mohammadkwt]

they won't care about refilling it because it's diesel

[@larry8065]

Plenty of people care. If you're running a large fleet of trucks that drives 50,000 miles a year or more, 2 or 1 even mile per gallon can literally add up to thousands of dollars per years.

[@marcusyoung2870]

I'm pretty sure that a fleet owner would use the chassis-cab commercial trucks, not a regular everyday truck, so this isn't useful to business owners whose fleet vehicles will either be heavier or lighter than those trucks.

[@ryancrow2876]

Marcus Young well youd be wrong there i know multiple businesses in my town alone including a paving company and a trucking company both use these more than chassis cabs

[@MrMister1227]

That Ram fuel hole is so stupid XD Capless SMH

[@dukinygaming259]

Don't put it in the wrong hole Andre 😂😂😂😂😂

[@3monchii5]

powerstroke better than a cummins.... Mica, just quit now

[@Aurora_v_cali]

I like ondray sry dont know how to spell, why do u guys always treat him badly?

[@epicclips456]

I think it's a joke

[@navalmuffin6321]

More russian less english Andre

[@RAJohnson713]

0-60 please

[@alvilla701]

And 60 to 0

[@MrKeyboardCommando]

RAJohnson713 Good one !!! :-)))

[@epicclips456]

30 seconds unloaded lmao jk

[@Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr]

Real world?,now please go to the mountains or pikes peak for real real world!

[@victoroliveira3256]

FUCKIN EHH!!!

[@scott8919]

Trucks really push the macho thing way too far. Can't there be a vehicle that tows that much without looking like three tons of pure testosterone? It's sickening.

[@NordicNevs]

and you sir drive a prius with an obama sticker

[@PAC1990]

Go drive your girly Prius city slicker.

[@FireSneaks83]

"The fuel economy probably drops 5% when your lard ass hops in" - 😂 👏🏻

[@bwspyder1]

Duramax will win every time. It ALWAYS does!

[@ryancrow2876]

when has duramax ever been best at anything? its always been cummins vs powerstroke and duramax is just in the background for the chevy fanboys

[@bwspyder1]

Ryan Partlow what truck do you own again?

[@jeffhorton8737]

+bwspyder1 he probablly owns a tacoma

[@bwspyder1]

Patrick Dillman lmao

[@zacfuller7574]

I'll take a Chevy

[@lolpeopleism]

This guy really don't know anything about car or how to do review