2017 Genesis G90 Quick Drive | Consumer Reports

[@TimJoseph08031990]

This is exactly what Toyota did for naming Lexus its luxury division in the 1980s, and Hyundai did the right thing with the name Genesis. The G90 looks beautiful, and hopefully becomes reliable as the first Lexus LS400 was over 26 years ago.

[@Fussinated]

+Tim Joseph Lexus is still the most reliable car in the world and luxurious too.

[@Fussinated]

***** Luxurious enough. Besides what does luxury do if you got stuck in the middle of nowhere?

[@Toyota4Life]

+Samuel Kim LOL never heard anyone say that

[@Jason-zp4ly]

+Fussinated I have never owned a Lexus. Why?, because I have 3 different close friends who have all owned a Lexus of some sort at different times. The common link? They all hated them. All have said very unreliable. Mainly electrical/computer problems. It is like Toyota tests all new ideas/styling in their Lexus brand, work the bugs out in 5-7 years and when it is finally reliable transfers the ideas/styling into their Toyota line up. In short, if you like what Lexus is today, wait 5 years and you will get the exact same styling with dependability at tens of thousands of dollars less.....

[@Fussinated]

Jason Hendren By Peter Valdes-Dapena October 26, 2015: 11:53 AM ET "Lexus managed the rare feat of having every one of its models that was included in Consumer Reports' reliability survey rank above average." Updated January 27, 2016 11:11 AM By Phil Nobile. "Getting the best overall score with 78, Lexus leads this year's best brands list. Consumer Reports called Lexus a company "known for making quiet, plush, and very reliable cars." The carmaker also received the highest rating for reliability and a road test score of 76." 1. Toyota - 210,705 miles until worthless The public perceives Toyota as one of the most reliable automakers and our study concurs with this perception. While Toyota might not build the most eye-catching cars, they are certainly reliable and efficient. www.mojomotors.com/review/most-reliable-car-brands/ 2. Lexus: Lexus has three of the top seven ranked vehicles when it comes to long-term reliability. This includes the Lexus LX which is ranked at #1 along with it’s sister model, the Toyota Land Cruiser. Lexus is also the only brand in the study that offers excellent long-term reliability for every single model they sell. www.yahoo.com/autos/the-10-most-reliable-car-brands-from-a-car-117171887192.html (No1 is Toyota) 1) Lexus Lexus continues to lead the way in reliability, earning an average score of 64 percent with seven models in its lineup. The company’s ranking on the Annual Auto Reliability survey remains unchanged compared to last year. By AutoGuide.com Staff Oct 21, 2015 Now I know why you don't buy a Lexus because you are prejudiced hater.

[@zahirusa123]

I was going to buy S560 but after driving this...I was SOLD....Super Comfy and get LOTS of compliments...At the gas station, everyone stares at my car even people with their BMW and Benz.

[@ClayColwell]

What is "annoyingly counter-intuitive" about the shifter? You can't just say that without explaining why...

[@Rmalikk]

Exactly

[@tekcraft8886]

+Clay Colwell If the reviewer thinks the shifter is counter-intuitive he should do us all a favor and turn in his drivers license.

[@iSOBigD]

+Clay Colwell Some people like pushing up to shift up, others prefer it the opposite direction.

[@Mercer1012]

+Clay Colwell This guy is an idiot, I hate his reviews. He's snarky and does a poor job explaining things.

[@Kfcyeh]

You could watch Fiat Chrysler Recalls Confusing Shifters.

[@ssr1680]

I like it, looks legit

[@fluellenmediabymarekusflue6320]

i own a genesis and other drivers are always asking "you paid how much? but my car didnt come with that. Its looks nice

[@chobongkeun1]

Luc Donkerwolke who designed Lamborghini and Bentley joined Hyunai genesis design team from 2016. Personally I am expecting the next one which will be desinged by him.

[@dkcrxsi]

Another Genesis concept is suppose to debut at the New York Auto Show in march along with the Ioniq. Can't wait!!!

[@HaSh6064]

+조봉근 Good Info,

[@maximiliannavarinischillin2760]

Manfred fitzgerald is also working on its Design. He used to work for Lamborghini, Head of Design. He is my neighbor in Ibiza. His daughter is a Great friend of mine

[@chltmdwp]

Wow! That is great!

[@diamondrmp]

Amazing the amount of time you spend looking at the camera and not the road!

[@fluellenmediabymarekusflue6320]

comes fully equipped for 25 less than the cheapest BM or Mercedes Standard, so yeah its awesome.

[@DigitalYojimbo]

Not bad $70k plus probably another 7-10k off after haggling will make this a very attractive buy.

[@QuickQuips]

+DigitalYojimbo Or waiting a few years since depreciation does not favor stealth wealth or badges. Three year old Equuses are around $30k in my area. Also, I wonder if the dealership experience will be up to snuff.

[@DuhhHelllloo]

+DigitalYojimbo you can haggle cars???

[@iLLustrious85]

+Aviation yeah, why? u pay sticker price?

[@contractki11er]

+Aviation Yea, only at dealers that don't explicitly say "haggle free" otherwise it doesn't hurt to try there either.

[@ehgusrnjs3623]

+DigitalYojimbo when looking at the price this car rather competes with cars like 5 series and e class which are priced around 70k

[@Acc0rd79]

I see Hyundai making the push that the Japanese car makers did in the late 80s! Imagine what we can expect in the 2020's coming out of Hyundai/Genesis brands! WOW

[@SleepyPanda-DougBurbidge]

That's a really pretty car. I'm getting some Maserati Ghibli from the front, and S Class from the rear.

[@ehgusrnjs3623]

beautiful car

[@motorpd]

Thank you for a nice review

[@ravipeiris4388]

News flash to Consumer Reports: Regarding the brand name with respect to Lexus drivers, they'll have to get over the fact that they are ultimately driving a re-branded Toyota. Consumer Reports really needs to get over itself.

[@marc1093280]

Other than the Bentley Flying Spur, this is the only other luxury flagship sedan that I would consider buying or leasing.

[@kawakami789]

Don't know how anyone could compare this to a Bentley except for the badge. It looks exactly like the old Genesis. Most Koreans wouldnt even want a 70k Hyundai let alone the rest of the world.

[@Д.Янчн]

I am a Korean, and I totally disagree with you Kawakami789. Your nickname seems like a Japanese and how could you speak for Koreans? Many rich people and those with high social status in Korea drives this car, along with Kia K900. It's really worth its price and certainly better than a Lexus or a Cadillac.

[@Ogee4life]

Янчaн Д. better than a Lexus? are you kidding? that's the joke of the century. Nobody will ever take this car ahead of a Lexus unless a Korean really or someone who can't afford a Lexus and decides to opt for a cheaper option. Have u seen the new Ls 500? and you want compare Japanese Tech with Korean? the new Lexus beats every single flagship sedan out now in exterior and interior design. This Genesis looks like a car from two generations back so boring and flat. Not comparable to any of its rivals and that's just fact.

[@Д.Янчн]

Samson Okoro Well, I think the only fact is that you are one fervent Lexus fanboy.

[@Ogee4life]

Янчaн Д. I'm not a fanboy of any manufacturer, love Mercedes-Benz grew up with them, love Jaguar, Range Rover, Rolls Royce and Lexus as well. When a manufacturer makes something dope and is creative I'll give them the props they deserve nothing more. I like Bmw as well plus a host of other manufacturers including Toyota and Honda. I'm not sold on Korean cars cause I have driven them and had personal experience. When u compare a Toyota corolla 2013 model with a Sonata 2013 model, both of which I have driven I can tell u for a fact the corolla drives better and the Sonata is meant to be a camry competitor. There's no hate here just sharing personal experiences nothing more.

[@Trades46]

Hyundai finally gets its own luxury division. Can't wait to see smaller sportier cars similar to the C-class, 3 series, IS and ATS.

[@chrisgeorge2424]

I’ve had my G90 5.0 AWD for 5 months and love the vehicle other than the park push button-still can’t used to it

[@derrickx757]

I loved the Equus! Everytime I saw one on the street it caught my eye! The G90 is just as nice! Can't wait to see it in person. These cars have a outstanding track record for being reliable and comfortable. German cars never done anything for me, Lexus, Acura and Infiniti are the only other luxury car brands I would consider.

[@2011Equus]

I replaced my 2011 Equus in April 2015 with the 2015 Genesis 5.0 because of three incidents of unintended acceleration and didn't feel safe driving it anymore. Recently I've been having problems with my 2015 Genesis 5.0 and I've only had it for eight months. All of the warning lights, which include AEB, BSD, engine, auto hold, power steering, AWD and ABS turned on while driving. Even power steering was not working as well. I had to take it back to Hyundai twice to look into this problem. I got my car back again two days ago after getting the speed sensor replaced and test driven by its service manager and foreman for over 450km. Hopefully the problem has been fixed once and for all to save me the trouble of bringing it back. I am so lucky to have two lemons from the same brand (one after the other). The Equus I bought in May 2011 was my first Korean car. I was very happy with it for the first few years until the first incident of unintended acceleration happened in August 2014. Such experience with my Equus and Genesis shake my faith in the quality of this brand.

[@jasonhaase7166]

trstnhn rofllll get em bro - dude has been posting that in multiple replies

[@MjrAlNlsc]

I'm glad they keep the equus logo, look very classy.

[@Stew5166]

+R0Y4L KN1GHT They didn't, that glimpse you saw was the Korean Domestic Market EQ900 only emblem. The G90 wears the Genesis specific emblem. ...sorry

[@AbdonPhirathon]

This car is really nice, but they need to work on a Genesis for the entry-level luxury sedan segment in order for Hyundai to attract more potential buyers who don't have 60,000+ dollars to spend.

[@victreebel170]

There already is one. The current Hyundai Genesis. It's gonna be in the Genesis lineup too.

[@AbdonPhirathon]

That's not an entry-level luxury sedan though, which is what I was referring to.

[@dkcrxsi]

Genesis g70 will be the entry level. It will be in the c-class, 3 series and a4 segment.

[@ilwol1004]

+Abdon Phir'athon (‫עבדון פרעתון‬‎) 'Genesis' said that they are going to release G70 sedan which competes with 3 series and c-class in early 2017. If you wanna look at some photos, There are some spy-shots on google.

[@ilwol1004]

+Abdon Phir'athon (‫עבדון פרעתון‬‎) 'Genesis' said that they are going to release G70 which competes with 3 series and mercedes c-class in ealry 2017. There are some spy-shot photos and information in Google if you want a find them. :)

[@wigglepickle]

The interior is beautiful. I can't wait to see what other cars Genesis cranks out. Especially looking forward to seeing their cars that compete with the smaller luxury vehicles, such as the Cadillac ATS, Lexus IS, etc.

[@2011Equus]

I replaced my 2011 Equus in April 2015 with the 2015 Genesis 5.0 because of three incidents of unintended acceleration and didn't feel safe driving it anymore. Recently I've been having problems with my 2015 Genesis 5.0 and I've only had it for eight months. All of the warning lights, which include AEB, BSD, engine, auto hold, power steering, AWD and ABS turned on while driving. Even power steering was not working as well. I had to take it back to Hyundai twice to look into this problem. I got my car back again two days ago after getting the speed sensor replaced and test driven by its service manager and foreman for over 450km. Hopefully the problem has been fixed once and for all to save me the trouble of bringing it back. I am so lucky to have two lemons from the same brand (one after the other). The Equus I bought in May 2011 was my first Korean car. I was very happy with it for the first few years until the first incident of unintended acceleration happened in August 2014. Such experience with my Equus and Genesis shake my faith in the quality of this brand.

[@HaSh6064]

Hyundai should have done this long time ago. Love their design, European style cars with Hyundai's low prices. Perfect. It is good that they have the AWD, I think this is one of the most important key factor for Genesis's success. Genesis is very smart buy. To make it easier for buyers to get over the Hyundai's name, they should ask themselves what other luxury car can I purchase or lease with this price?

[@genesis3479]

Good review.

[@cardude1992]

I feel like Genesis will become a really cool and popular brand. The name is perfect really cool and the cars seem very premium and stylish

[@JordanKwon]

2:19 What? Equus logo on steering wheel?

[@East17A]

personally I see this car is well done design. in and out the company name the brand . aren't my problem. when I go out shopping for a car. price. comfort. and reliability. in one line. are my concern. that's all. I don't care much for German Cars that I pay arm and legs and get no resale value !! I wonder how many people think like me . I mean consumer thoughts change and I think German auto makers need to rethink how they make their cars. the over engineering and overly sophisticated devices on them make them Undesirable brand to own. for long term ownership !! at least for me it is ..

[@MrGeezil]

so true I agree with ya. I had Audi A4 so many problems then I sold for Genesis. been driving over 12000 miles still strong

[@East17A]

***** I'm confident about these companies because they are considered new in this segment . I'm sure they are doing pretty good job to prove themselves worthy in the Market. Unlike BMW or Mercedes Benz. they got the consumer confidence to the point they are not paying much attention like they use to in the past . soon they are going to lose that Consumer confidence it's happening but slowly. the consumer are changing direction. the logic rule is Nothing remain the same forever. every company has it's momentum!! :-)

[@08yallvon]

+East17A "over engineering and overly sophisticated devices on them make them Undesirable brand" this doers not sound convincing, look what happened to smartphone market. with all the complication everybody jumped in with willingness to pay high dollar and also have learned how to use them.

[@East17A]

08yallvon when it comes to phones it i easy for consumers to choose from the list what they desire the offers and the price affordable. but when it come to cars the story is different. i didn't mean in my comment the difficulty and sophistication of using them/Driving them .. i meant here when it comes to maintenance and repairs. every body have a new push buttons car but guess what these push button key fobs when they stop working . reprogramming them is going to be expensive and is not something you can fix at any mechanic. you may not think it is a problem if you live in a City area . but if you drive in isolated roads in country roads wintry season you really need something dependable at least you can get it to move somewhere not completely dead and it has to go to the dealer !!

[@Vampire285]

+East17A the over engineering and overly sophisticated devices on them make them Undesirable brand to own??? Just Wow .. !!

[@Eggemeyers]

I really love the shifters' design. Reminds me of the Audi A8 (which reminds me of the throttle on a jet). The silver buttons on the dash - above the shifter - look similar to the same on the Mercedes S-Class (I wonder if they are metal? Nothing like a button that is cool to the touch). My biggest gripe is the control knob input for navigation of the menus. I think they could design something better - something more natural and fluid, like a rotating ball (I like Lexus' take on this). Finally, I'm sure they will have different trim options, but I would like one that keeps all the same luxury in the front, but gets rid of much of the unnecessary hoopla in the back. My kids don't need 16-way heated/ventilated seats (just more stuff that can get broken). Very nice car, oh how far Hyundai has come!

[@jamelmoore4356]

This is absolutely stunning!!! It's such a shame that there isn't a Cadillac or Lincoln on the market that can match the quality, comfort or prestige of the G90, let alone the 7-Series or S-Class!

[@bigdeeshow]

Cadillac has the new ct6 and Lincoln brought back the Continental so there are already competing in that segment.

[@thermalgeothermal451]

Nice looking car!

[@LearnAboutFlow]

Genesis has FREE maintenance AND they pick up/deliver your car for service wherever you are. No other brand does that in this class. Add in killer reliability and you have a winner.

[@DoSum4Me]

the G90 also made it into the finale for car of the year on motortrend, I'd buy one over and S-class of A8 or 7-series anyway. It's gorgeous.

[@Mr_Nurse_FO3]

I'm in Korea for the week. Gonna head to a dealership and check this out.

[@BasquiatSama]

honestly I think the new Genesis looks great, let's see what Genesis will look like in the next couple of years.

[@ravipeiris4388]

Absolutely gorgeous luxury car

[@amanti113]

Great Car

[@TheMichaelRN]

new generation buyers are less brand loyal. I'd definitely consider this especially a Genesis SUV.

[@panagiotisf7228]

v8 awd?

[@RealtimeReviews613]

So will "genesis" be sold at separate dealerships? Why does the "genesis g90" have a bird on the steering wheels like the equus did? Very confusing

[@dkcrxsi]

It should start at the Hyundai dealers but I think it will be something like bmw/mini and Toyota/scion.

[@MrGeezil]

it might be sold at hyundai but not every delearship can sell it. your dealership should meet certain standard. customers service for G90 is also gonna be different.

[@MrGeezil]

+MrGeezil No bird on G90 steering. they showed you the old model Equus.

[@dkcrxsi]

+MrGeezil yup yup. For example. Not all Hyundai dealers qualify to sell the Equus.

[@Stew5166]

+DoubleD 613 The video showed a glimpse of the Korean Domestic Market Genesis EQ900, which has that bird .... They should have clarified that.

[@shopwithaaron]

Nice looking interior....Wish the tech was better hidden on the front...

[@dave7315]

what happened to the equus

[@Nightbird.]

Can any owners of this 2017 model year verify how their reliability has been and if anything has needed repair? Thanks.

[@tovsyomoyo9739]

How much does that car cost?

[@ehgusrnjs3623]

+Natalya Hayes will be around 60k in u.s

[@ya55er4008]

I feel like the front and rear light doesn't complement the car square formal roof

[@chariokim8284]

a car worth owning

[@ascott2168]

Very nice.

[@stevestein238]

I've owned a 2012 Genesis R Spec and now a 2014 Equus. I came from owning BMWs, MB and Audis for the past 30 years. I can say each of these cars were a pleasure to drive. On the other hand, the service experience is horrible. Not that things have gone wrong, just the level of the dealerships for general service. They have a long way to go to feel like your walking into a BMW service center! For the Equus, they sell and market the car with a premium service experience and even give you a "hot line" to call. It's meaningless because the dealerships don't follow this. When Lexus, Infinity and Acura were introduced they build separate dealerships to support the experience. You can't turn on the TV , go to a sport event without seeing a Hyundai ad, so we know the brand is here to stay. Let's see how they reintroduce the Genesis/Equus Brand!

[@76carmel]

Over 25 years ago, the Germans thought, what's Toyota doing in the luxury game with Lexus or what's Nissan doing with Infiniti? Mercedes and BMW learned a big lesson. They won't learn not to underestimate Hyundai with the Genesis name. Like they did with Lexus...

[@2011Equus]

I have no I preference for luxury brands. That's why I had a 2004 VW Pheaton when it was introduced to Canada in 2004 and also bought a 2011 Equus when it came to Canada in 2011. The Equus is almost as luxury as Phaeton but at less than 2/3 of the price of Phaeton. My 2004 Phaeton is at the same price range of MB S models and BMW 7 series in 2004. I was very happy with the Equus for the first few years until having three incidences of unintended acceleration in August 2014 and early April 2015.

[@wieadler]

In this video G90 looks like angry Hitler because of the license plate. Anyway this car is really beautiful.

[@ehgusrnjs3623]

+Adler Fliegen lol great expression

[@fisher_ltd]

is it reaponsible to put a plate in US?

[@meachelwiz740]

its not Hyundai Genesis G90 its just Genesis G90 1 month ago they separated...please tell your informations right

[@kjscoleman]

Of those in the marketplace for a car like this, I think older buyers care more about brand prestige than younger buyers. The new Genesis brand seems like a smart move and G90 manages to look luxurious and purposeful, but for the plastic covering the front grill...

[@dkcrxsi]

I like!!!

[@1969cmp]

dkcrxsi Me too. All the Genesis range. Hopefully we'll see all three in Oz. At the moment we only get the 'G80'.

[@1969cmp]

Very very nice.

[@mfmf100]

Seems like a good deal, especially compared to German midsize

[@FLJAMESFL]

Well said about the symbol prestige!

[@dcuccia]

Nice video Tom - very concise. It think this is a good move by Hyundai. Too bad about the poor Hyundai brand cache, though...it probably would have been so much cheaper to keep it under one roof. But if they can raise sales to more than offset the higher overhead costs, it's a win for all.

[@MrLathor]

Looks great. Not to complicated, very luxurious and cheaper than the rivals. Get the dealership experience right and you will have a winner.

[@Drive571]

In Manhattan the Equus has a certain cachet... you only see them in black with Consul or Diplomat plates, passengers hidden behind shades, usually parked outside seriously high-rent real estate. In many other parts of the US the Korean brands are still perceived as cheap. To me personally, the Equus and 2015 Genesis have taken on legit status. The G90 will be even more so.

[@wassha09]

I'm very excited for the Genesis luxury brand. I could see myself drying one. But i'll wait until they release the two SUV models. I'm an SUV type of guy.

[@lebronandy4519]

Nice!

[@1AEROSOL.1PUFF]

just show me to the Hyundai dealer for a G90, I don't care what the Oriental people buy it is all about me and what I want i like a big heavy car.

[@georgeblack9318]

Tracci Quartermaine 91

[@asrockrpg]

G90 also known as EQ900 to replace the outgoing Hyundai Equus.

[@08yallvon]

+Earl Matthew Avila But looks Hyundai says "Genesis G90"

[@seoul_wave]

eq900 is korean name.

[@Д.Янчн]

Many rich people and those with high social status in Korea drives this car, along with Kia K900. It's highly regarded for its comfortability, silentness, and its luxurious space. Personally, I think it's whole lot better than Lexus LS, Cadillac CT6, or Audi A8. German Mercedes and BMW are overrated, but Genesis is not. It does its real value and what it's worth it. Haters do not hate before you've driven the car.

[@bone476]

how much it costs? like 10 grand more with all that tech? $50k+?

[@kawakami789]

70k way overpriced.

[@kawakami789]

It's basically the same design as the old Genesis they were selling for 40k with slightly better engine. You can get an Infiniti that's faster (turbo or hybrid) better interior/exterior, better handling, way better intelligent cruise, for 20k less.

[@ruzzelladrian907]

The design isn't bad it's just that all of its designs have already been seen since 2010 it's a generic German/British luxury car they took inspiration from other luxury car makers in Europe and made sure they picked the best Audi/Maybach/Bentley/Mercedes = Genesis G90 I say this to a very elegant car which is the G90 because the bar was recently raised higher due to another European car manufacturer from the Swedes they have created a new refreshing design and that's the Volvo S90

[@Capt_Chris1293]

Nice

[@osamaFXX]

I wish they spend extra time developing it and introduce it in summer 2017. make a pull marketing strategy about it a little buzz and rumors and to develop it more and more. this is what Lexus had done from 1985 to 1990. they studied the luxury segment from zero to S-class killer.

[@Stew5166]

+osamaFXX What makes you think they "didn't" spend extra time developing it??? What an insane statement! This has been in the works for more than 10 years! The Hyundai Genesis and Equus were supposed to have been released as Genesis models back in 2008 until the global recession pulled the plug on its launch. Developing it???, What you have here, is an initial launch, ... that is effectively already in it's 2nd generation! How's that for development??? Can't say that for the LS400's development and launch as you referenced. ..... Also, FYI ... Genesis is launching a multi million dollar marketing strategy next month in Superbowl advertising. read up!

[@osamaFXX]

Daryl Ireland Ok man calm down! you gonna have a stroke.

[@Stew5166]

+ osamaFXX, *****​, ... Some people simply need to do their homework!!!

[@pascutia]

The exterior is so similar to the Bmw 7 Series exterior :)

[@icegiant1000]

Can you believe how screwed up the grill gets with the fake panel for cruise control, and then the license plate bracket? What a mess!!!

[@jkz2862]

Looks like an Audi and the Equus looks like a Benz. Just wish Hyundai would have came to the table with an original design like Kia did with the Cadenza

[@RR-gw2uj]

I got in this car at the ny auto show, as well as $70-120k BMW, Mercedes, Audi, and Lexus offerings and the G90 was absolutely the most solid, luxurious car at the entire show. All of the German lux cars had flimsy, cheap interiors that shook a lot when you closed the doors and I swear the seat buttons on the German cars felt like they were going to fall off. In the 90s and early 2000s, German lux were the kings of the segment, but today Hyundai is taking over. The G90 was HUGE, even bigger than the 7 series inside and had better leather and thicker seats than the German cars. Nothing shook and the car was solid when you closed the doors. People were practically fighting to get in the two G90s they had there and ritzy people kept asking for details and phone numbers to get more info for purchasing upon release. The Mercedes area was nearly empty lol Lexus has nice cars, but they're all tiny inside and they feel cheap for the price, plus Toyota has bad reliability right now.

[@RR-gw2uj]

Who cares about brand snobs, but honestly, I'm seeing lots of Mercedes and BMWs sitting on Hyundai lots, so that says a lot lol. I think most people are starting to realize that badges aren't what they used to be. BMW and Lexus have been letting people down lately and even the rich are seeing this. I saw someone trade in a brand new BMW 7-series for a Hyundai, not sure which model though, but that's crazy!

[@dank3823]

What snooty people don't know is that the Genesis might be a better car than a euro brand

[@2011Equus]

Trustan Han, The VID of the Equss I had is KMHGH4JFXBU033550. Hopefully the current owner of my Equus in Toronto happens to read my reply to you. He or she is driving a ticking time bomb. Unintended acceleration is a matter of life and dead. That's why I got rid of it to trade for a Genesis 5.0 in April last year.

[@user-nifinei34jd9]

So how many of you seen Equus on the road? Never here in Dallas. Also no Cadenza and Azera. Im sure its going to be same way.

[@contractki11er]

+Park Dorky Here up north this month I've seen two Equus's, a dozen or so Azera's, and one Cadenza.

[@loslakersjims894]

+Park Dorky Hyundai knows what they are doing. Let's not argue for next five years and talk about this, then.

[@ICYASIAN95]

This car looked amazing at the detroit auto show not no more

[@qaskew1]

if you live a state that requires a front license plate it's gonna make the grill look silly. why don't designers take this into consideration?

[@vegettosupersaiyajingod3465]

For ppl who don't know how Korean do things... just wait until 2021-23 and see what I mean. Hyundai is only starting. I been saying it since 2010. I already know which brand I will buy after I pay off my Murican Muscle car and finish some projects I have with it.

[@coltonphillips1]

Looks just like a S-Class in the rear!

[@loslakersjims894]

+colton phillips They had that design since 2013 on Eqqus

[@loslakersjims894]

+colton phillips Even before, Kia Amanti.

[@jimcole2648]

They came along way and this and the trim level below is great also. It is still hard to pay that much for a Hyundai even though these trims are amazing. Too bad they don't do what Toyota did with Lexus and have a sub brand for these top level cars and not be a Hyundai. 🤔

[@rmsjern]

now make some genesis suvs

[@dkcrxsi]

Cuv and suv will be in the line up by 2020. The ceo mentioned it during the g90 launch at Detroit.

[@Stew5166]

+mr murica 2 are already under development and slated to be on the road in under 4 years. Rear wheel drive based and engineered exclusively as Genesis models with no Hyundai brand sharing.

[@Littleathquakes]

look up the Kia Telluride concept. you bet there will be a rebadge Genesis suv/cuv. it's a hot market segment & Hyundai won't let Genesis be an suv-less brand.

[@Stew5166]

Then it won't be a Hyundai rebadge, but rather a Genesis rebadge. The Kia Isa concept ... an idea. It doesn't exist as a production model. Genesis has already confirmed it has a smaller and a larger RWD Suv's headed to market. My statement was that the Genesis SUV would not be rebadge Hyundai FWD Santa Fe's and the like. Want to bet which one will hit production first? The Kia concept hasn't even been confirmed as to if it will ever get production "Ok". You do know the difference between "concept" and prototype, yes? Prototype is an early pre production model. A concept is just an idea exercise. 

[@mo4everable]

like their logo tho the bird wing

[@squibbles0]

QUIT LOOKING AT THE CAMERA AND LOOK OUT THE WINDSHIELD!

[@mercedesbenzs600bash]

I can get a 2016 LEXUS LS460L AWD for the same price as this 2017 GENESIS G90,I really like that G90,a lot,decisions,decisions....

[@disracenboi336]

At the end of the day ..your still driving a hyundai...oh wait. good on hyundai for finally making a luxury division!

[@Stew5166]

+disracenboi336 You'd be VERY proud to be driving a new Genesis, I guarantee you!

[@ruzzelladrian907]

Remember when Lexus was new ?

[@froey198033]

Did anyone ever think Hyundai would make a luxury car like this when they first came out.

[@DRAGONIKification]

+Jeff Froment Remember how Toyota started?

[@froey198033]

JustLucky I do but I mean Hyundai. I know I never expected them to get this good. They've come along way though.

[@DRAGONIKification]

Jeff Froment Like Toyota did,no one believed that they will be so good and no one expected that toyota will be the biggest car maker.

[@flectz]

if you're into this car segment you obviously have a lot of money. so why would anyone choose a hyundai over a mercedes when money isnt an issue?

[@smoldingCarcus]

+ok Because it isn't a Hyundai.

[@flectz]

***** apparently this car competes with the mercedes S-class. so its not an entry level luxury car as you say. so if i had enough money to be even considering buying an S-class merc, id obviously be rich enough to not skimp and get a hyundai. if i was spending so much money id want the prestige of the mercedes brand. im sure the genesis is a great car but i doubt itll attract the type of people it wants to

[@yuhoseok47]

There could be more options than Benz. I guess what you are talking about is as the same as that there a plenty of cars that you can buy instead of Hyundai in our market, but why people choose Hyundai? Neither Hyundai nor Kia is cheeper than Toyota,Honda,Nissan, and Volkswagen.

[@geethsan1567]

Certainly looks promising. I hope this guy's true.

[@justinnegron4843]

You did a whole review without even showing the back of the car? seriously?

[@Billodnh]

Let it depreciate and buy it used.

[@MrGeezil]

well every luxury car depreciate faster

[@Billodnh]

Some much faster than others. Those with less prestigious nameplates for example.

[@93karamgill]

+Billodnh The S-Class has arguably the worst depreciation in the segment. As a 2016 Hyundai Genesis owner; the Genesis Line-Up is an unbelievable bargain at anything below or at the MSRP.

[@bmwmsport11]

So is Genesis going to be sold at Hyundai dealers? That would be a major fail on their part. They need to build a whole new dealer network even if it's only for 2 cars, along with build their line up, and make a ultra luxury car and/or super car to show that the brand isn't just a rebadged Hyundai.

[@twpark90]

Building a new dealer network is on progress

[@edkelly145]

+bmwmsport11 I believe they expert to launch 6 new models this year. Including the G90.

[@3811eric]

+bmwmsport11 A brand new Genesis dealer with ultra luxury showroom coming around the 4th quarter of 2016.. We just need to be little patient. Everything is all taken care of...

[@MaestroTJS]

+bmwmsport11 Cadillac and Lincoln don't have separate dealer networks (though they may not be the best example considering they hardly do that well). Infiniti is rarely on its own where I live (Canada). Actually I guess a lot of the brands that have a downmarket brand often have the downmarket one on the same lot (VW/Audi).

[@bassistdc]

Unlike you I don't care about the badge! Nice car!

[@AnthonyBoettcher24]

I am sorry these cars might look good for 2-4 years but don't hold up like the Mercedes, Audi or BMW do look wise. I like that they are being competitive but I don't think they are ready to be compared.

[@AnthonyBoettcher24]

born1sucker I don't think I can take a person serious who doesn't know how to spell "jerman". And yes I am a German car owner and I had multiple in my family sometimes with almost 300k miles on them without problems.

[@AnthonyBoettcher24]

***** oh please.... High end cars have to be maintained. I doubt you would take a Lamborghini off-roading but tbh. Why am I even discussing this on the Internet? I'm speaking out of experience.

[@mountainhobo]

Yeah, I am afraid it could be too soon. Toyota waited for a long time to establish itself before launching Lexus. Hyundai might be there yet, regardless of its actual merits.

[@edkelly145]

+mountainhobo Too soon? They are the third largest car company in the world.

[@mountainhobo]

Too soon on the US market.

[@liembudzien153]

+Ed Kelly Actually, they are 9th. I think they still need time to prove their cars' reliability. If their cars are still working I'm 10 years then they might have a chance.

[@Stew5166]

+Liem Budzien Dead wrong dude ... Hyundai is the 4th largest manufacturer in the world, (Behind only Volkswagen, Toyota, and Renault/Nissan) ... having started building cars back in 1966 for their domestic market with import to the U.S. in 1986. Their cars are currently at the top of JD Powers reliabilty ratings ahead of Lexus and Mercedes Benz. +mountainhobo , I guess since Toyota made its first car in 1936, you could say that ... but Honda only made its first car in 1963 and made their Acura luxury division 23 years later in 1986, and before Toyota's Lexus in '89. Hyundai started building cars in 1966, and their Genesis luxury division in 2016. My point is ... After 50 years ... they've had plenty enough time compared to the competition.

[@kokopuffs5789]

+Ed Kelly They are 5th but i bet they will be 4th or 3rd for 2016 as VW sales are surely going to drop and Nissan doesn't have any new popular models coming out soon. Hey anything can happen

[@3811eric]

Well, I don't care what other people say but this genesis brand is going to kill some German heavy hitters pretty, soon. I also do care about the name of the badge on my car but with over priced German cars? Hell no! I will take the G90 any day, man. Where is the line to get this beauty? Bye Germans and say "hello" to Genesis..

[@kawakami789]

There isn't a line for any Hyundai don't worry.

[@3811eric]

There sure isn't hell a line for any Lexus, Infiniti or Acura, so I never worry.

[@klukash]

cant wait to see how bad the resale value will be in 2 years maybe then I would buy one.

[@ehgusrnjs3623]

+lukash kowcz its more likely that it wont be that way for this new 'GENESIS' brand

[@drsnowmon]

it doesn't look cheap

[@dave7315]

looks like they mashed the Genesis and equus together

[@Toyota4Life]

Lexus all over again. Good luck. Not a bad looking car would be a steal used.

[@FiredEmpire]

The reason why modern Hyundais look more competitive and upmarket than ever is that Europeans, or more specifically Germans, have actually been in charge of developing their cars and managing brand marketing globally, instead of Koreans. All that the Koreans did was gathering talents from Europe to manufacture cars that have European copycat designs and are built by cheap third world labour.