2019 Grand Design New Roof

Please understand that these are not DIY videos, also we shy away from giving advice because we do not know what materials each person is working with. We do not sale any products, nor do we provide quotes on social media, if you are looking for a quote please email us at [e-mail].

[@weldphd]

Ten years from now, this guy will be thankful the factory roof blew off early. Great work RV Roof Install.

[@iair-conditiontheoutsideai3076]

This guy would be extremely lucky if this RV last 5 years.

[@rubberdiscoduck]

Wow another great video. I had a great deal of respect for Grand Design until now I can't believe they're making that stuff

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Scott they're all the same.

[@TheSteelerider]

Grand Design. Please see for yourselves the type of quality workmanship your people are sending out the door. You should be embarrassed. What a joke.

[@briannoblemog]

I posted this video on GD Facebook pages and they took it down

[@JBW78133]

They're all like this, RV companies turn out crap! I have 2019 Class A with the same panelling & shower surround. SLOPPY workmanship front to back, top to bottom.

[@heyeverybody5616]

OK, Y'all do awesome work.. "Someone thought there was plumbing there" so we heat welded it. And your HONEST!!!! I own a remodeling co. This video and the craftsmanship is spot on. PLEASE don't change a thing! 52:54 well worth watching...

[@johnmclaren7059]

You guys are true professionals!! Watching this video I became ill to the stomach 😩,we just purchased a brand new 2020 GD Reflection 150 29RS fifth wheel and after our first two week shake down camping trip , to my horror I inspected the roof and saw massive bubbles every where! Unacceptable workmanship from Grand Design, the more I inspected our unit I just shook my head in disbelief as the list became longer. Our fingers are crossed that the roof warranty will cover this and that our rv dealership will do the same repair to our trailer as you guys do to the units that roll into your shop! Thanks for the in-depth video on how these factory’s really slap these things together and how you’re professionalism and passion to make things right! 👍👍🇨🇦

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

They won't do what we do. At best they will replace the roofing. However you can bring it back if it's defective. Winnebago lost a $500,000 lawsuit for defective coach. There is a USC code that stipulates when you buy a product you buy it free from defects. You can Google the winnebago suit and read it Thanks for watching.

[@kurtlangeberg1329]

Damn.....I use your videos as a warning of what NOT to buy. LOL I rebuilt my roof, with the HUGE assistance from watching your videos. Great job on them and a plethora of knowledge in them. I ran into some of the same things on my 1998 Jayco Eagle that you are running into here. Took me a month to "fix" all of the screw ups they just covered up when they put the roof deck on. One thing on mine, they used one screw on the seam of the deck, which was only 1/8" material, to hold down both edges. Absolutely unbelievable.

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

I'm glad we could help ! Keep Watching :)

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Well you are a much slower learner than I am....i.dont own one!... bahahahahahaha.... thanks for watching!

[@tonys78jet]

You guys Rock! Hats off to you all! I bought a brand new 2018 Keystone Bullet Premier 30RIPR and spent 6 months upgrading and bringing things up to my standards. It kills me how these manufactures build these. Production Production Production ... I have delamination bad on my rear exterior wall and I've heard the won't cover it under warranty because it's cosmetic. I wouldn't take the trailer to just anyone. I don't trust anyone in the RV industry. I live in this full time. I'll repair it myself. I found little tiny holes in the trim and factory silicone sealant. Your videos pointing out all the flaws, seeing how much it bothers you guys and listening to how you have to address everything cause it's the right way to build these. Your honesty and work ethic are truly appreciated by me and anyone that has had to deal with the manufactures and RV sales people after they get your $$$. You guys are a breathe of fresh air! Please keep up the excellent work!!

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Thank you for the compliments. It seems society is all about production in every level. Being built in the USA used to mean something. But corporate America has changed all that. Green for more at the cost of niave consumers they exploit Thanks for watching.

[@maryellenandfurbabies]

I'm sad about this roof blowing off but I'm happy for You being able to fix it. thank you for your awesome videos. we just recently bought a 5th wheel. sandpiper 2004 3 slides and there are leaks in my roof. currently at rv shop but I'm so dreading what the bill is going to look like. unfortunately we are definitely newbies to owning an rv and we're learning the hard way. crud. i shared your vids with my husband and we are now subscribed!! thanks again. you are our new found freind. roger and mary from California. ☺

[@FTGMotorsports]

Great work - roofs done right. I am impressed by the thought you put into the design, heat welded reinforcements/Double seal, thinking about easy removal of components. The problem is these "stick and tin" trailers just shake themselves apart over time. Not to mention any water intrusion and its basically game over - roof seal is really key to avoiding that - you guys are true pros!

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Thank you and thanks for watching!

[@WadersInAlaska]

Great job guys!!! I wish more shops had your integrity and professionalism. If I had a coach that needed roof repair/replacement I would duck tape it up and travel to your shop to get a proper job done! Thanks for the videos and again a great job! The owner is going to be happy!

[@scottb4494]

I do hvac for 30 years and this is a real industrial roof that u would see on malls or mega warehouses not rv crap 👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@EverydayProjects]

Good job! Just saw something at 6:27 that I thought was a small brown hammer laying on the roof. Then I realized it is just a dark piece of the OSB plywood (looks like a hammer, though). Hard to believe that the manufacturer isn't responsible for this repair. If I paid for a new coach and the roof peeled off the same year, I'd be back at the dealer demanding my money back!

[@marrdrocertifiedprofession3715]

Been powering through all of these. Finally came to a Grand Design. Gonna watch with interest. I have a 2018 Reflection 337 RLS.

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

We did a Reflection a while back..it should be on the channel.

[@TenmaFN]

I so enjoy watching your videos, you guys do such great work and you seem to be a guy I would love to work for. It amazes me that those RV companies do not contact you to find ways of improving their product.

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

We're always looking for quality help. C'mon down and apply.

[@ramcummins7879]

Wow , You take pride in your work and these RV manufactures need to take notes! I have a grand design Imagine and I thought I was buying a quality build Travel trailer, its in the dealer right now for warranty work.

[@rogerwalls4984]

Love your video and thanks for sharing the info You do an amazing job, it's a real shame the RV industry dosen't care about doing a better job, but unfortunately it seems to be the way most people are today ! Good and honest Quality workmanship seems to be a thing of the past !!! NOT JUST THE RV INDUSTRY!!!

[@paulbouchard5058]

Thank you very much for your response and I know the walls are pretty thin on the unit I looked at, but wasn't sure if the vacuum process made up for it. Now I know it isn't good, better, or best, but bad, worse, and worst. Is there a construction method you could put in the not quite so bad, without having to break the bank. I believe in your comments more than any salesman, so thank you in advance.

[@NormaPerez-tc1pw]

I am prepping my TT for the long haul to ur place! In the process of cleaning her out to take pictures of repairs. I m hoping it's not as bad as it looks! Your videos are awesome! I watch them all the time! Your crew makes it seem, easy peasy!! lol!

[@democratsareterrorists]

I have a question is it possible to cover that roof with ice and water shield like on a residential roof before the membrane is put on as another layer of protection against water like on a home before the shingles are installed?

[@MostlyPeacefulCombatVet]

I didn't do my entire roof, but I did use grace Vycor peel and stick membrane (same thing we use for residential roofing and for ledger and joist flashing on decks) as my "buffer strips" to protect my TPO when I did a re deck and roof on the ol' 02 forest river I continue to hang on to. I don't think i would do the entire roof. I like a good wooden surface for my adhesive for the TPO to stick to. Just my honest opinion

[@edyoung6573]

The thumbs down must be from "Grand Design" workers, Great job as always Roof Install guys!!!!

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Either them or camping world...lol . Thanks for watching!

[@rapierce99]

Your work is PHENOMENAL!!

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Thank you. We do work as if it were our own. It's the small things that get overlooked that seem to wreak the most havoc. Thanks for watching!

[@richardkoch8752]

Where's that R-40 roof insulation they advertise? I've seen pictures of the underside of the floor.............just as bad:(

[@catfishredneck88]

great tips. just re caulked all the windows doors ect on the one we just got.

[@jimharney1047]

It good how you expose the shoddy work by rv manufacturers. Keep it up!

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Well that just might explain why I don't have sponsors...lol.

[@ewdavis77]

So has anyone had you replace a new roof just to have it right from get go?

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Yes. The 2017 Mobile Suites. Thanks for watching!

[@danielmiddleton2900]

Just started watching ur videos. Every time u say dicor is bad and a rip off. What would u recommend to rv owners on an rv roof short of replacing the entire thing and ripping off all the dicor?

[@mhughes4444]

Seriously, you should be in a witness protection program. You should also be reaching out to some of the larger YT RV channels to help challenge the industry to make improvements. GD must respond to this or be swamped with the tidal wave of reposts. I just pulled the plug on my purchase. Thanks so much for posting!

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

GD paid for the reroof. I'll tell you...they are all the same. If they were not decaled with logos you wouldn't know one from another. A the roofs are the same. Doesn't matter how much you spend, it'll have the same crumby roof as a $15k bumper pull. They all leak or will shortly. We did a brand new off the lot Mobile Suites...watch that videos. That was $120k! Thanks for watching

[@rcememwood]

I am surprised no one has asked, what does a job like this repair cost?

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Lol...they do ask. We do not post pricing on social media. Thanks for watching!

[@ChrisGillenwater1]

@@RVROOFINSTALL since it"s a new camper it should be under warrinty right?

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

@@ChrisGillenwater1 yes it was under warranty. GD stepped up and paid for the reroof.

[@reyesben]

Hi there. I’m getting ready to fully replace the front wall of my 2015 keystone passport ultra lite. What product do you use to seal the roof if not Dicor?

[@rickboretirementplan]

M1 from CEMLINK.

[@wadealbert138]

What type of glue you recommend for gluing the luan to the Filon. Its not in the overhead area is behind the couch area would the foam glue work for the luan to the frame or PL premium construction adheasife

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

We use 3M90 spray adhesive for Filon to Luan.

[@silinusvers]

how come they dont use solid foam board for insulation instead of soft insulation? i'm looking at redoing mine, i'm all the way out in new mexico. I installed a split AC on my 40ft toyhauler so i was going to get rid of the AC holes entirely, and all the vents except for the bathroom one. but I know the insulation needs to be replaced, but solid foam board with its R value seems like it would work better, but i'm certain theres something i'm not thinking of.

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Manufacturers build with the most inexpensive materials they can get away with. Your roof is Plyfoam? You do have 5th wheel you hauler? Plyfoam is uncommon in 5th wheels...I've worked on them ...just not as common as batton insulation

[@Jarhead68]

I just purchased a 2022 grand design 22mle and am first week out. Got on top and noticed several places that roof membrane is not glued to roof, is this normal or do I need to have dealer inspect, replace or document.

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Normal for GD. Bring it back and get a new one...OR...put a claim in GD and bring it here. They'll pay for a new roof. We got a GD on the channel we did...it was 3 weeks old when it tore off.

[@michaelblodgett6245]

What kind of adhesive do you guys use to glue the roofs down

[@wadealbert138]

I love watching your videos very nice work guys keep it up. What is the best way to fix the side walls. of a older class C? the fiberglass panel in delaminated from the wall is has very bad water damage so I need to open it up and remove the rotten material and get rid of the mold also. So my question is, is it better to go from the inside and what do you recommend me glue the plyfoam to the inside of the fiberglass panel???? Thank you very much for your time. Super Job

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

You'll need to open the fiberglass up and glue a new piece of Luan to the frame and filet the old rotted luan off the Filon and glue it to the new luan. Then you may need to go inside and do the same. But I would wonder how bad the bunk is rotted overall. Thanks for watching!

[@brianhoward438]

You guys are incredible.Love your attention to detail.These manufacturers should be ashamed to put out such terrible workmanship.I so wish you were closer to me,I would have you do my roof on my 2017 Fuzion Toyhauler.I live in New York.

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

These manufacturers are ashamed....all the way to the bank! Not sure how far away you are but before your next roof compared what we do and what they'll do before you buy. It just may be worth the drive, right? Thanks for watching!

[@Jarhead68]

Where are you located . Thanks

[@H-RutherfordHill]

Why wouldn't Grand Design warranty this? Or did they?

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

GD paid for the roof system.

[@sadbttru]

I like to imagine that since this is an insurance job paid for by GD that someone high up watched this video and learned something! I’ve heard you mention a few times about demonetizing the videos. If a few ads give you a bit extra cash take it and put it towards your own custom model! Love the videos

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

We did demonitize them, then YT sent us an email and it said they re serve the right to monitized them..I'd like to build my own...way busy and I also got another project I patent...custom trailer locks. Can't steal the trailer. Works on TTs, 5th wheels...anything with a trailer jack leg. Unpickable.

[@sadbttru]

@@RVROOFINSTALL great! Send it to the you tube lock picking lawyer guy. I hope your channel popularity spreads and it gives you the opportunity to have some influence at a company. Thanks for putting out these videos

[@scottb4494]

I don’t thank its Grand Design it’s all rv manufacturers that do this type of quality

[@SkidKayINC]

How much did it cost to replace the roof?

[@NissanPRO4X]

I have a 2017 grand design 2400BH. Roof leaked and currently at the local dealer for an insurance claim. Which RV brand appears to have better engineering and or construction?

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

They campers are all the same. If it's in a local dealer and they do an insurance claim you do not have to authorize them to do the work. You can go anywhere you want to even though they file the claim. I'd you want to bring it here then you can. All they are going to do is put another crappy Dicor roof on it and slobber it with Dicor caulk and then, in the fine print, you will still have to slobber more on every 3 to 4 months. We work with all insurance companies, progressive, Allstate, Geico, Farm bureau to name a few. Thanks for watching.

[@lowboytrucker]

Where can I order the insert trim you used instead of the cheap plastic trim thats useless.

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Look online for xd946-1w. Thanks for watching.

[@MrDerick79]

Why they don't put barrier vapour under the insulation just like houses.... I bet those roof get really moldy avec a few years with all that cold/warm air trapped in the roof....have you ever seen barrier vapour??

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Vapor barrier are fastened on the inside in some areas and the outside in some areas. The purpose is to stop the different air temperatures from colliding and causing moisture issues/ condensation. However you would need to know where your coach is predominantly going to be for it to be affective. Coaches are going to get hot anywhere in the summer if they are parked or stored, likewise with cold in the winter. You will never change that. So if the inside builds up heat and humidity you would trap all with the vapor barrier. The plyfoam with Filon coaches do much better than the aluminum sided travel trailers. I have had many comments abut how we installed the insulation incorrectly with the paper up...the paper acting as the barrier...but it doesn't matter all that much because the owners may be in Florida theN Canada. The point is you want the barrier to be on the the side of the humidity. In more humid climates it should be under the siding. In areas where the heat from the house is no ore humid than the outside then the barrier goes under the drywall. Cofusng and contradictive. Thanks for watching.

[@MrDerick79]

@@RVROOFINSTALL okay.. this why i get confused... i live in Canada... all houses have vapor barrier on the inside.. right after the drywall.... so ... do you think all RV'S in Canada should have vapor barrier under the R-7 insulation or it is just fine with the foil over the insulation???

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

@@MrDerick79 foil is a UV deflector. That will cut down on heat intrusion think of it as tanning lotion. I wouldn't be surprised if the Canadian campers had plyfoam on the roof. Plyfoam is polystyrene foam glued to Luan. We have worked on Northern package 5th wheels. All class A B and C campers have plyfoam. Some campers labeled as ..lite....are plyfoam. And some northern package 5th wheels have plyfoam. We use a closed cell foam, when we rebuild, that enhances the ability to retard heat. There is closed cell and open cell foams. Closed cell is tighter much like the big 4x8 sheets you can buy at Home Depot. I nee to ha e a podcast...lol. This is why we say the videos are not DIY...there's a lot to know and how to make things compatible, right?

[@Chris-wh2gy]

I was told on those extra holes is they predrill for the different flooring so it would have been for a vent pipe on a different floor plan

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

It's quite possible. Someone else said it was for an access to wires....who knows...lol. thanks for watching!

[@mr.peabody3509]

I bought a 2022 grand design here, 297QB, did I just make a huge mistake? What should I be looking for and where should I be checking for leaks early on? What does a job like this cost on a 36 footer?

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

From what we have seen of GD they don't glue the roofing memi down well enough and the will blow off. When traveling the wind creates a vortex uplift, not swooshing I er and pressing down. This continual upward pull will cause the roofing to bubble up as you travel. You may have seen a camper roof doing this as you travel. GD has paid us for the claims, but once you get past your 1 year warranty you may be left holding the bag. Check your roof membrane by pressing and rubbing to see if it is loose. The best thing you can hope for is to snag the roof on a tree limb or something, then your insurance will pay for it. In regards to making a mistake....well their all the same. Take the decals off yours and another brand and you wouldn't know who was who. They are all built the same. I would guess they all use the same vendors for materials, cabinets, trusses etc Thanks for watching.

[@mr.peabody3509]

@@RVROOFINSTALL great advice and info. Thanks!!!!

[@mr.peabody3509]

@@RVROOFINSTALL I guess I’ll pull and tug on it when the weather heats up to see if I can detect loose membrane. Then I can put in a claim to GD to repair it under warranty. Where is your shop located? I’d drive it there to get the quality of work you deliver.

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

@@mr.peabody3509 we are in Fort Oglethorpe Georgia just a few minutes south of Chattanooga. I'd the roof doesn't leak they may not award a claim. It may leak later.... after the warranty expires, but they don't care. If you tear it....well then the Insurance company will deal with it. Your roof warranty...maybe 12 years I'm guessing. That's in the material itself. Not the installation. You'd have to prove the actual roofing membrane failed abnormally. Now if it blows off while your driving they may step up to cover it. It's a long process. They don't want to pay. So you may have a damaged roof for a couple few months before they opt to cover it...if they opt.

[@mr.peabody3509]

@@RVROOFINSTALL Sounds good. I used to live north of Atlanta and travel to Amicalola State Park on occasion as well as Lake Lanier. I’m familiar with the area. Beautiful. Let’s see what happens with my roof and I may be paying you a visit. 😉👍

[@charger69dodge2]

Wow I thought grand design was the best most trusted rv builder. This definitely has changed my mind. These rv companies should be ashamed of themselves after the money we pay for them. Shame on them for not pleasing there customers.

[@MRHEAT20]

I just found your channel and what an eye opener-my wife and I are at that retirement age and looking for an rv and I can tell you it’s great to see someone like you and your company are there to fix the screw ups but is there a manufacturer out there that can be trusted ?? Oh yeah the finished job is awesome

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Sad to say they are all the same. I don't own one. Thanks for watching.

[@kongquestkustoms8858]

Very impressive work, boss!

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Thank you... thank you...we will be here all week and remember to tip your waiter and waitresses!....lol Thanks for watching!

[@mdbc67]

what tape? is being used on/over the plywood seams?

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

It's not tape, it's too roof remnants. Thanks for watching!

[@leslewis687]

What sealant do you recommend to reseal over the top portion of the windows on my Winnebago? Thanks for your time ad for the vids and pointing out the mistakes the factories are making!!!

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

There are a couple of options. All the options are Chemlink products. If you have silicone on the coach clean it out as much as you can. I am not usually an advocate for silicone but nothing will usially stick to silicone...not even silicone. Chemlink makes a product called Metalink andnitnis a commercial grade Silicone designed to stick to finicky finished. It should bond to the silicone, if you have they. They also make M1 which is an adhesive caulk designed to be outside...it's like liquid nails in steroids...great stuff. Super strength for adhering. They make Duralink...very similar to M1 just not as strong as an adhesive. Those are some options for you my friend. You can research them at Chemlink.com. they should have a dealer section for you to locate where to purchase. Thanks for watching.

[@mruofacat]

Call Winnebago

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Don't call Winnebago. These manufacturers will sell you junk at high prices. They design then to fail.

[@kimlaliberte7601]

You got me very nervous, bought a 2020 camper fun finder and the salesman trying to sell me some of that self sealing junk and i agree its junk, so what should i use and what do you think about the flex tapes to cover the roof joints, thanks for your help love your videos. LOL you must have lots of friends in the industry

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Ha ha...yeah...most manufacturers and RV centers don't appreciate us calling them out. Dicor is made by Carlisle Syntec. Kind of like Chevy's version of the Chevette...it's a car...but no one brags about it. Carlisle just licenses it to Dicor. But Carlisle does have a real commercial grade EPDM lap sealant. Your local commercial roofing supply house would have it if the sell Carlisle, mule Hyde or versico. Lastly save for a roof or try to hit over low branch you see. Insurance will cover a new roof. Thanks for watching!

[@richardkoch8752]

Does Winn. or Jayco do any better on their slides?

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

They are all the same. Scrape the decals off and you won't know one from the other. Thanks for watching!

[@tomcat5986]

Is it just me or isn't there an obvious sheen to the OSB that makes sense to what your saying, how can an adhesive (generally speaking) like the roof membrane, stick to that type of glossy-slick finish?

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

OSB has a mix of resins in it and one side isa wax so when it is pressed the resin doesn't stick to the press. That is usually the printed side with all the ASTM information which should be face down or inside for the inspector or project manager to see to ensure they have the proper sheathing for that particular project. RV manufacturers put the smooth wax side up because it looks better. The thin material they use will show the OSB texture through the membrane. We re-deck with BC grade plywood most of the time unless the coach is wider than 96 inches. For the wider ones we have to use OSB because lywood isn't readily available in lengths over 96 inches.

[@tomcat5986]

@@RVROOFINSTALL so it looks "better" to the inspector just bc it's easier to see the product used when the inspector is walking at an elevation they prefer to walk on, not necessarily better for the long-term quality of the product. What a shame...

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

@@tomcat5986 On a building or house the inspectors are looking at the walls and the roof from the inside. But yes if the Rv makers want the roof to look smooth so the put the wax side up. They hope it won't blow off within a year. We reroofed a 2019 Grand Design a while back and that was the because the roofing blew off...lol

[@tomcat5986]

@@RVROOFINSTALL ironically that is the video I am viewing now and I cant believe what I'm watching hence the inquiry about the unknown fact, to me, about the different sides of OSB...

[@mathewshoyt1763]

wish i could take my RV to you guys to get my roof repaired..

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Well c'mon! Thanks for watching!

[@ChrisGillenwater1]

how long does a job like this take? thanks great eye opener about rv roofs

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Takes a week or more to complete, depending on damage and repairs.

[@jeanoharah4934]

Hi. Thanks for all your useful info. I'm in NW PA and not going to Georgia anytime soon. Would love to know how to do my own boots for my ladder and vents and the curbs you make that you heat seal to the roof.

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Thanks for watching. The component we build are proprietary to RV Roof Install. We do not sell them.

[@charger69dodge2]

I wish I lived closer to you guys. You guys are amazing!!! What do you use to replace the dicor?

[@rickboretirementplan]

M1 From cemlink

[@davevanboal3669]

Thank you for your videos guys!!! I finally have overcome my fears associated with the risks of my roof project going bad and I am going to DYI! I do not want to be a moron, though. Can you tell me what the alternative to lap sealant is you mention in this video? I saw a product "Geocel 2310 brushable sealant" that looks very interesting!

[@rickboretirementplan]

He likes M1 from cemlink, I have been using it, works great

[@dougmyers6013]

Looks old to be a current model roof? How do you explain that? Just curious

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

I guess they were in a hurry to meet a quota? Thanks for watching!

[@dmdcoogan]

fantastic job! Do you guys do warrantee work? My 2018 roof is failing

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Yes, we warranty work. If we can not warranty it we don't want to do it. Why pay twice? Give us a call...423.475.7663. Thanks for watching!

[@ChristianTravelers]

Wow, Grand Design is a better name in RV towables. A Winnebago brand.

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

They're all the same, thanks for watching. Wai till you see the mini Winnie we are working on.

[@ChristianTravelers]

@@RVROOFINSTALL Doesn't the Mini Winnie have a fiberglass roof? Wouldn't we be better off with an OEM fiberglass or aluminum roof, rather than an OEM rubber, EPDM or TPO roof? We are currently selling our Class A and anticipate buying a late model used RV next spring. We live in Florida, should we make the trip up to see you after we buy?

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

@@ChristianTravelers Any roof without curbs will leak. That's how a flat roof functions. It doesn't matter if it were ¹/⁴ plate steel, if it doesn't have curbs it will leak. Why are you selling your class A? If it needs just a roof out one in and enjoy it. All these roofs are the same. Working in a Winnie now...what a shoddy job from the factory. It had a fiberglass roof.

[@ChristianTravelers]

@@RVROOFINSTALL We are selling our current Class A because of other issues than the roof. However, watching your videos (which are very interesting) I am concerned that no matter what we buy we will need roof work (even if it's just the raised platforms, flashings and heat welding). Guess we will call you when we buy our next used RV in the spring.

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

@@ChristianTravelers use the need for a new.roof in your negotiations. Just an FYI, we can not install curbs on any roof. They have to be the same TPO product.

[@Matt-pj3ue]

At 9:34 you can see where the wood is overlapping another piece of wood instead of butting up against it. What a joke. Grand Design is off my buy list.

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

I hear ya my friend....however Grand design did step up to the plate and pay for the roof system. Not many do that. Thanks for watching.

[@richardkoch8752]

How are the roofs on the Jayco & Winn. Clas C motor homes?

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Have you seen the minnie Winnie we just finished?? They're all the same. Thanks for watching!

[@stephanedaly222]

God!!! We almost bought a Trancend Xplor 265 BH about a month ago!!! We backed down because we couldn’t get strait up answers concerning warrenty work if something should appen... well let me tell you that we are not going to spend 37000$ on a peace of crap like that!!! Thanks for the heads up!!!

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Ha ha....they are all the same! If you need to switch decals from coach to coach you'd never know which was which..don't buy a new one for a year....pass it along. If they don't sell a new coach they'll change their builds. Thanks for watching....btw I don't own one!

[@paulbouchard5058]

Hello, Great video, but depressing at the same time. I am looking at a Flagstaff Microlite that has vacuum bonded roof and walls. Are they any better? thanks

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

I am not a fan of these ultra lite campers. Mainly because they are built using a plyfoam technique on the floors and ceiling. If the floor fails it is very hard to get the strength back. Roofs generally need to be rebuilt. They're generally so cheap that at times they're not even worth repairing. I wouldn't want to one, but then again.....I don't own one. Thanks for watching.

[@kenj.8897]

@@RVROOFINSTALL There is not foam in the floor it's 3/4 tongue and groove plywood . Since 2019 I believe . Good channel

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

@@kenj.8897 all the campers I have come across labeled "lite" are usually plyfoam. Maybe they changed it? I wouldn't see why, but one thing you can count on in the RV industry is inconsistency.

[@iair-conditiontheoutsideai3076]

Obviously you're very educated with what you do. What do you recommend I do to keep my roof sealed without going up every 3 months with a tube of dicor because you're right I do feel like a moron all the time lol

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Option A....remove all the caulk you have been piling on around the vents etc. If you can do so without ripping the roof. Remove the vents, skylight etc...clean well...use a commercial adhesive ( M1 by chemlink) sealant to set back in place ...caulk with same.commercial grade sealant . However, this will not stop the AC leak issue. We shy away from giving advise because if things are not done right or compatible the project will fail..I can't see what you have going on. Some plastics may need primer?? Option B put a real roof on it. Thanks for watching

[@iair-conditiontheoutsideai3076]

@@RVROOFINSTALL appreciate the response definitely subscribed

[@igorving]

This person doesn't understand the TITAN DUAL SEAL SYSTEM and QUAD SEAL, which Grand Design uses. Also, will his roof work now void the 3 yr structural warranty?

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Ha ha....no I is s dumbass...I just toss em togedder. NO TROLLS ALLOWED!

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

If you think these manufacturers are putting out quality your diluted! You can see the AC didn't care about the compromised truss we replaced. AND if you think they're going to honor any warranty you nuts. They squirmed over having to pay for this one.

[@freedomisntfree5573]

What do you recommend instead of dicor?

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

M1 by Chemlink. Thanks for watching.

[@BUZZB8Z]

Glad I found your channel. Are there any RV's you would say are "built the best" or are they all crap?

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

They are all the same. If they didn't have names on them I wouldn't know who was who. I don't own one. Thanks for watching!

[@ronniemorris7774]

this guys should build campers they rock

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Sure would like to but we got our hands full doing what we do. We were looking at a good quality camper without all the unnecessary frills. Keep price low quality build high giving the customer option to upgrade whatever they want. Thanks for watching!

[@sadbttru]

I was thinking the same thing. Build from the ground up.

[@darrellgordon9748]

Very informative video. Only suggestion or question I have is approximately how much it cost to fix? Guess my thinking I rather pay more for a RV if I knew they all had your standards of construction and care. Seems worth while to spend more if product meets your standards. I would think it would be cheaper too meet your standards in the building stage instead of in repair stage. Excellent video and excellent repair.👍👍😃

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

We don't quote on social media. Give us a call and we can help with pricing and colors. 423.475.7663 Thanks for watching.

[@Pipelineaudits1234]

Where are you guys located?

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Fort Oglethorpe Georgia. Thanks for watching!

[@Pipelineaudits1234]

I have a 2016 Grand Design Solitude 384GK that needs a new roof and has some soft spots that need to be fixed. 40.5’ long. I’ll email you to get a quote.

[@amsoiltek]

So this may have been asked before, but have any of the mfg's come to you asking for your input? Also, how much would it cost the mfg's to build it right in your opinion? Looks like I'll be ordering some M1 and tossing the moron stuff!

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

No mfg has contacted us to improve their roofs. In regards to the extra it would take...well Jayco has a video on KZbin bragging about how they can build a camper in 7 hours....it takes us a week to do the roof. Corporate america doesn't care about quality. It's all numbers to them. How to get em built, get em out and get em sold, how much cheaper can they build it, how much extra profit, how to satisfy the shareholders. All numbers. That's how it all works. We are a small shop and although we are determined to not let a coach go out until it's done properly, our numbers would not be something a CFO would like to see. So if we sold our company we wouldn't get what we could if we slapped them together and shoved them out. As you can see, we are not about the money. We intentionally demonitized every video on our channel. We don't make a cent off of them. It's annoying to watch a commercial every 6 minutes. We have probably 150 videos on our channel. That could be a few extra bucks for us...but it is not worth it for us to annoy folks by slamming them with ad after ad and basically forcing them to watch the ads. Thanks for watching.

[@gregorybobbett4048]

how long have you been repairing RV roofs

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

About 6 years. Thanks for watching m

[@harrycee656]

I want these guys to build me a camper.

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

If I had the manpower and facility I would. I've designed a truck bed camper already. Thanks for watching!

[@mruofacat]

Was there no warranty on this roof? I'm not an RV expert but I can't imagine that the manufacturer would pay for a replacement roof that entailed all the "improvements" made to the roof structure. Also, you can not compare bricks and sticks building practices and codes to RVs. Apples to elephants

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Grand Design paid for the work. Thanks for watching!

[@briannoblemog]

@@RVROOFINSTALL at least they did that

[@pauljohnston7700]

Hi, love your channel. In a previous vid. you mentioned Dicor was caca. What do you recommend? Thanks.

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Sashco make a product called Big Stretch available at Lowe's. Thanks for watching!

[@smacmoyle]

Grand Design ???? more like Grand Illusion .

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Haha...the David Copperfield edition....bahahahahha. Thanks for watching!

[@kevindick3754]

what is the turn around time on a roof?

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Right now? Sometime in January.

[@mikemowagobba]

Howdy, what product/ brand would you recommend to use vs dicor? Thanks, Moron

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Dicor roof membrane is made and licensed by Carlisle Syntec. Carlisle also makes a commercial lap sealant, but Dicor is too cheap to buy it.. You should be able to find it at your local commercial supply house. Thanks for watching.....Moron...lol

[@rambladesmanmoe6291]

Wow , very disappointed in what I see here. Grand Design is in the top three of potential fifth wheels for us. Is GD paying for this repair under warranty ?

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

GD did pay. There is no coach better than the other. If you switch decals from one manufacturer to another you wouldn't tell them apart. They're all basically built the same...nothing we have ever noticed that would stand out to be a better coach than another. I would be more cautious about large coaches boasting how light they are. They're light for a reason...lol...cheap alloy aluminum and not enough framing! I don't own one . Thanks for watching!

[@rambladesmanmoe6291]

RV ROOF INSTALL thanks for getting back to me. I’m the same. Light means weak and cheep. I’m a retired Caterpillar mechanic so I’m all about quality. I can’t even walk through IKEA without getting the willys. Thanks again.

[@lawrenceconstantine7735]

Looks like one of the less expensive campers but none the less should be done right as an estimator in construction I will certainly say you are doing a great job. If it where me I would send that video to Grand Design / Better Business Bureau / Consumer Reports / National Traffic Safe Bureau / & Congress/ Senate because of these companies making such a ( Shitty Product ) just imagine how many recalls they would have if they ran under at least the automotive industry.

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Grand Design paid for it to be replaced. But they are a the same....I don't own one. Thanks for watching!

[@lonelyprepperhomestead911]

Lawrence Constantine ... The NHTSA puts out a list of vehicle Recalls every week. There's usually several RV's listed. You'd be amazed at the safety mistakes that are made on them which are deemed by the Fed's as requiring a recall. There's a fairly new KZbin channel that keeps up with it called 'RV Aware'. It will open your eyes.

[@darrylt5300]

About the lemon law for RV's, I had a friend that sued Jayco because the front can leaked and the frame broke/cracked and he go all his money back plus court cost. May not be a lemon law fut you can sue anyone or company if you have a good lawyer and if you want to take a chance and spend the money. LOL

[@williamloeper4868]

What caulk do you Recommend vs The Moron Brand?

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Carlisle Syntec makes their own EPDM lap sealant. Carlisle makes Dicor. Kind of like GM made the Chevette. It's a cart but no one brags about it. Carlisle just licenses the material to Dicor, but Dicor is too cheap to buy the caulk. Thanks for watching!

[@williamloeper4868]

Might try that Sascho Big Stretch, I saw that in one of your other comments.... Very Eye opening your Videos. The Manufacturers must Dislike you very much. Lol

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

@@williamloeper4868 manufacturers don't like is calling them out, but moreso the RV centers don't like all the work we take from them. Sashco may work. It's water based and the Dicor has pretroleum distillate in it. Some may have evaporated, off by now. Point is, it may not be compatible. Test a section first and check in often to see if it will work.

[@soillife1]

They are building throw away rvs right now. Buy a good quality used. New Mar Holiday Rambler. Remodel if need to.

[@backtoasimplelife]

soillife1 The manufacturers have been making mostly junk since around 2000 amd later.

[@jackhall4680]

I have a 1996 Holiday Gambler pull behind. The design and build is really good. Previous trailer was Thor Tahoe Widelite. I put about 5M in many repairs, and finally sold it for Junk when told I needed to spend ANOTHER 5K for leaks, bad seams, etc. After repairs were done, it would be worth 2200. So we got the Holiday Gambler and we are VERY happy with it.

[@jackhall4680]

Not sure why, but auto correct changed Holiday RAMBLER to Holiday Gambler and 5K to 5M. Sorry!

[@RobMan]

Every time you question why the RV industry does something a certain way; their answer is always "It's designed that way so it can flex". Like the back walls that aren't attached to the coach. They say Oh! it's a "floating" wall for flex. These RV companies boarder on criminal.

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Prior to 2007 the coaches were made better. They used to glue the roofs And walls. When the recession hit and they still needed to build and sell, the CFO sharpened the pensil with a needle point and trimmed as much as they could. Just so as long as the coaches made it to the 365 day warranty line. Now that they see what they saved, they stayed with it with no consciousness to quality. Thanks for watching.

[@erod6214]

What a shame. And I used to think highly of GD. Thank you for exposing their crap. I had considered buying that brand but after seeing this. I'll keep what i have. At least I've worked out the bugs.

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Keep what you got unless it's really that bad. It's not just GD ... they're all the same. One manufacturer does not build better than the other no .after how much you pay. I don't own one. I got one I'm building...but it's not done yet...too buay. I tell folks not to buy one for a year. They'll bgetbthe messag. Spread the word. Thanks for watching.

[@solvend]

Is there an era (production year) of campers, TTs, 5ers, etc when they did roofs better than today? This totally turns me off from the entire rv industry

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Before 2006. Seems after the recession they still needed to build but needed to cut corners. Once they saw how much the cheated/saved, they continued. They used to glue the roof decks down and used more glue but the overall roof installation has always been less than par. That's my opinion. Thanks for watching.

[@MikahBoxer1]

You guys are doing more for these issues by taking the time to get these videos out not mention top notch repair! People need to know!!!!! Need to take it to legislation and put standards in place.

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

People need to NOT buy a new coach for a year. Or even a steady 6 months. They'll get the hint.

[@benlyons7752]

Man that’s sad. Hope the manufacturer sees this

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

They're all sad... they're all the same. Thanks for watching!

[@lynngatlin4469]

That plywood shouldn't be running the 8 ft. Way with the rafter either that is not structural. That plywood should run the opposite way of rafter. Plywood is designed structural that way. It be same thing with say sheet rock be the same it be like running it the 8 or 12 ft. way with the studs or joist. Unreal. Glad I seen this.

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

You can't run them perpendicular to the trusses. If you did you'd have a seam in the center. Then you'd have a bouncy in between the trusses at the seams which then would require some sort of ply clio. I have always run sheathing perpendicular to trusses and framing on typical commercial residential framing, but not on RVs. The purpose of the perpendicular position is to stagger the joints on a vertical application for shear strength. Also when you run perpendicular you usually mark you sheathing for the framing so to ensures the frame is running plumb to maintain optimal strength in the truss, rafter stud. On an RV is just 8 feet...the sheathing is butting each other which qualifies the shear factor once glued and fastened. You can not fasten down too thick of sheathing to avoid the bouancy because it would make it unnecessarily heavier. Thanks for watching!

[@lynngatlin4469]

RV ROOF INSTALL 7/16 on 2 ft. Centers I've never in my life built anything like that. That plywood will sag in between trusses regardless which way you run it. An I've never run a board or plywood the same way a rafter was running . it's same thing as running sheetrock with the joist instead of across that's just poor craftsmanship. An I've never seen a set of blue prints that show you to run plywood the eight foot way same way rafter runs. I've been a contractor for 45 years I'd fire somebody that tried pulling a stunt like that.

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

@@lynngatlin4469 I have been many things but I have never been called shoddy. I ha e 3 GC licenses myself. MA, TN and MD. I think I know my way around a set of blue prints as well. There are some that do because that's they way they were shown and they don't know the WHY and there are those that know the WHY they do. I would be inclined to think you are the former. Down south the out footers 2 foot below grade. Up north it's 4 foot. WHY? Because of frost line. Does that mean the southern foundation is not as strong as a northern? So w extra feet of foundation down south would be a waste of money. Years ago they built with 1x stock planks, now we use sheathing. Plywood was the norm and you confess to using OSB which bus far inferior to plywood. Who's shoddy now? You need to understand the design and factors in any project to ensure a quality build within budget. Any more may be a waste. Years ago no one used hurricane clips. Some still try to avoid them. Many think hurricane clips are a waste because they would never hold up to a hurricane...which they won't? So why are they code?? Do you know? Or are you just a do'er?? Maybe you could send me the coefficient factor of the shear and tensile strength comparison of running the sheathing in either direction. Maybe the ASTM may have that for you if you know what ASTM is. If you did you would know that is how codes are out in place. I'd you're going to call me shoddy you'd better have more ammunition in that tinker and prove where I am shoddy. We use the best materiAls available to pull these coaches together to last. Far better than the manufacturer. If you don't like what you see you don't need to watch. As much as I appreciate a good banter. I hate to debate with a person who has DONE for 45 years and doesn't really know why.

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

FYI hurricane clips are to minimize collateral damage in the event of a hurricane. The design is to minimze the structure from coming apart and going airborne. The small clips could nearkynstoo a hurricane from tearing the structure apart impart because the clips are too small and the stock is to thin. Are they shoddy clips? No. They compensate the strength by tiny bends which strengthen the metal and the fastening holes are staggered to get optimal bite into the wood and not split the grain. Know the WHYs and you can move that knowledge to other criteria to achieve results. Also....I done went to the bettera funded schools if my state...haw haw! I was even a valor dick torean....

[@lynngatlin4469]

RV ROOF INSTALL not saying anything about your work it's the shoddy way they built it the manufacturer I agree with you. I have never seen anything like that. I know you didn't build it .

[@durango8882]

🙈😵‍💫brutal

[@MR-gi2md]

Unfortunately, this type of situation is all too common in the RV industry and is certainly not limited to Grand Design. American Made in the RV industry, with a few exceptions equals Buyer Beware.

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

You are correct. We got a 2017 Mobile Suites posted, 2018 Big Horn....they're all the same. If people would not buy an RV for 1nyeae the industry would get the message....and....I could retire... lol. BTW...I don't own one. Thanks for watching!

[@briannoblemog]

I posted this video on GD Facebook pages and they took them down. I was still going to buy one.

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

You're still going to buy a GD?

[@briannoblemog]

Well it made some people upset on their page. GD owners are very tribal but there were some sensible people, enough for GD to respond "This video was removed because it was posted by an independent service tech who is not familiar with how we manufacture, and it was his opinion on the product. We chose to remove to ensure that false info is not spread and cause confusion or concerns. Thank you"

[@briannoblemog]

@@RVROOFINSTALL I was happy that they paid for that beautiful roof that you guys built. Here was there response. This video was removed because it was posted by an independent service tech who is not familiar with how we manufacture, and it was his opinion on the product. We chose to remove to ensure that false info is not spread and cause confusion or concerns. Thank you

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

@@briannoblemog well of course they're going to save face. That's what they pay they PR people for....lol.

[@briannoblemog]

@@RVROOFINSTALL we are planning to fulltime. Should I run for the hills?

[@richardkoch8752]

I love how the Indiana RV manufacturers are always pushing "Amish Craftsmanship" This is not a slam against them or the Mennonites which we have several good size community's near me........they're great people..BUT....... They work mostly farming, re-roof jobs, building tear downs. They DO NOT ever work new construction that I have ever seen. I'm a former Deputy and to say at least I spent plenty of time in the rural areas. The Amish and Mennonites are craftsmen when it comes to the furniture building trade BUT never have seen them locally doing new construction.

[@winstonrocco1981]

Is it possible that rv manufacturers are worse than auto manufacturers I think so

[@Chris-wh2gy]

I just sent a 2020 grand design your way with a ripped roof straight off the dealers lot

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Wow! That's embarrassing and pathetic.... thank you.

[@Chris-wh2gy]

@@RVROOFINSTALL yup he thought a tree did the damage but he had the "bubble"

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

@@Chris-wh2gy maybe GD has some expires adhesive??

[@Chris-wh2gy]

@@RVROOFINSTALL well there was NONE under the roof pretty sad at the poor workmanship in it .

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

@@Chris-wh2gy tell your friend to let GD warranty that he wants us to install the roof.

[@georgehuerta1990]

Man this video scaring me I just bought a brand new fifth wheel not a grand design which I was looking at them but they were just something about them that I didn’t like but I know RVs or RVs

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Thanks for watching!

[@barrypierce9100]

wow what junk....

[@davidc3312]

Making me sick Please hold the camera still every so often Good info but hard to watch,

[@RVROOFINSTALL]

Don't watch....that'll solve your problem. We don't have. Camera person. These videos were intended for customers to see what we have done in their coaches. So if you don't want us to make you sick...don't watch. Easy peasy!

[@sethtighe1]

That's a little rude. Potential customers watch this, and speaking personally, my estimation of you just dropped a little.

[@davidc3312]

@@sethtighe1 Constructive criticism

[@wheresbrent]

@@sethtighe1 My estimation stayed the same. I agree- if you don't like it- move along there's plenty of other channels to view.

[@explaincauseidontgetit3294]

@@sethtighe1 your estimation of him may have dropped but does that decrease his ability to make the best RV roof on the market? NOPE!