2019 Toyota 86 TRD First Drive Video Review

[@gt86trd_pr24]

Best 86 ever made! 💪🏼 $8k trd body kit, $4k brembo kit! 🙌🏼 new trd exhaust and suspension and only 1,418 units! 💪🏼 I have a TRD and i install a full blown Motorsport turbo kit ❤️

[@MrNemo721]

Give it a Turbo or end this car already.

[@mr.wiggles7535]

Don't need a turbo

[@eddiecruz100]

It needs a turbo option from the factory, it will appeal to more people. The whole purist angle is cool and all but it doesn’t sell cars.

[@mr.wiggles7535]

@@eddiecruz100 Turbo from the factory will add at least $10k more. So forget that happening. It's a lot more complicated than people realize.

[@bliglum]

@@eddiecruz100 The platform could easily handle a more powerful version. But it will never happen because Subaru cannot have the 86/BRZ upstaging their halo car, the WRX. Same reason why I predict the new "Supra" will remain no more than lukewarm. People will cry out for a more powerful version, but as with this car, it won't happen. Because BMW will not have it competing with their own M models..

[@jedicide]

Get a Civic Si if you want something turbo at this price point

[@apsreen5027]

$32000 for 200 hp toyota must be smoking something Edit: came back after a year and thanks for the likes everybody

[@theempty3340]

Vapes.....

[@tuneman7688]

You could buy a well kept second hand FR-S for low to mid teens and get the equivalent tires and suspension with installation for ~3-4K. There's no value in buying this version of the car.

[@MuffinMan0521]

"But it handles well!" -_-

[@korlic9]

aw i ment 32g's and im jkin man your moms super nice

[@antrinh5525]

jup, they've been smoking alright. shit car for 33 k, i like toyota don't get me wrong, but this aint no sport car and it aint worth 30+ k. this car is worth around 25 or less.

[@JustDoinItForTheLulz]

This guy's presentation skills are on point. I can admire how brief but informative he keeps things.

[@grannydriving223]

"my foot is flat on the floor." that's the best thing i've heard today lol

[@Turco949]

I understand it is a tuner car but at the price point, this car should have come with a stock NA engine that produced at least 250 HP, which would have been decent enough for me to buy it. 205 at this day and age is a joke, especially for this type of "sporty" car.

[@mrpmj00]

It's not just more hp, it needs more torque and delivered at an early low rpm.

[@ponrix]

exactly. 250hp.

[@vadianx]

@@mrpmj00 It's a high revving engine. The point is to keep the revs high when driving it around the track.

[@mrpmj00]

@@vadianx How often do most people go to the track? I'd bet 99.9%-100% of the time is on public streets so get a car that's geared for that for fun, in otherwords, more torque and early torque.

[@vadianx]

@@mrpmj00 at that point, there are better, cheaper cars. I owned this car. It was fun in the mountains stock and fun on the highway while turbo'd. The low end torque would hamper high end power in this engine. The VVT comes alive somewhere past 4k.

[@2ntenz]

All that graphics adds 3 hp

[@hueyfreeman7010]

🤣🤣

[@ryanfowlow8034]

Actually it adds 5hp get your facts straight

[@MartinFlicks]

Me ontenz yea it’s just looks

[@stimproid]

5 hp at the crank translates to 3 hp at the wheels. You are both right. Merry Christmas 🎄

[@JeepCherokeeful]

5 hp

[@DarkSpartan317]

special edition eh? ricer body kit and stickers... come on. Give it a turbo, or a far superior toyota derived 4 cylinder.

[@d4t6ix]

True; And that body kit looks horrible imo;

[@JohnDoeC78]

How to make a slow car even slower.. haha

[@wiemike3194]

it doesn't need turbo because its not supposed be extremely fast, its supposed to be fun on a racetrack or in the canyons.

[@fromocean2gulf]

toyota is the one that benefited from subaru engineering, not the opposite, and this car is a living example

[@fromocean2gulf]

@@wiemike3194 exactly

[@MTNDEWGANG]

Can it deliver tofu?

[@ivansvintsitsky8787]

This guy gets it

[@afilipinohikikomori6718]

No, only sushi.

[@Esdeath_0001]

Weeaboo

[@MTNDEWGANG]

@@Esdeath_0001 no u

[@YosuaNangin]

TRD means Tofu Rapid Delivery.

[@hvactec54]

Keep the Brembo brakes, give it a turbo, and get rid of the ricer body kit

[@Lofi.z34]

Brembo makes good racing brakes. Also StopTech

[@Tacomaholic]

Does the 33k price tag include vasoline?

[@vincef7487]

Their "JDM Radness" dictates that they do you with no lube. It's some sort of corporate policy. But I've heard there's a "comfort package" available that includes a generic AstroGlide, but it'll cost more. 🤣🤣🤣😳

[@Tacomaholic]

@@vincef7487 Sounds about right.

[@ianchesney9639]

No you get it dry.

[@desolatesurfer8651]

the vasoline is easy financing.

[@edwts]

for those who says that the car is slow. I own a 2017 version and on the tail of the dragon this car is flying! go trough the corners like its a go kart! on straight is slow yes but this is made for mountains and canyons

[@aiyhanfernandez968]

If you're living in a place full of straight roads then this car is not for you

[@urmomwuzhere]

username checks out

[@potatochobit]

if you live in a place that is not your parent's house, then this car is not for you.

[@elia4783]

Yeah, then you should buy an Audi.

[@AnonymousUser1710]

if you live a place where there are much better options for $33k - $40k, then this car is not for you.

[@aiyhanfernandez968]

@@AnonymousUser1710 exactly hahaha

[@MRIMPOSSIBLE2c]

Finally a good 86 video! Sums everything all up. I have one myself and can definitely relate to the end

[@sorooshab]

Everyone asks Toyota for more power. Toyota: Upgrade the Brembo Brakes.....

[@iforc]

Why do they hate power?

[@ely6219]

unrealibity comes with big hp toyota likes to keep it reliable

[@vinh92117]

They don't hate power, it's more like they're about skill over power when it comes to sporty cars. There are 2 ways a car moves fast: 1) engine power 2) momentum The frs / brz / 86 was made for tuning and to be a driver's car. It's not meant for everyone.

[@JrVtec]

Toyota is a icon for reliability, If it was their engine they'd have no problem making 250hp reliably, The problem is that it's Subaru's FA20 engine and in stock form they're not very reliable to begin with.

[@undrgrnd734]

@@JrVtec i dunno about that, my FA20 engine has given me no problems at 38k miles. You might be talking about subaru's headgasket failures way back in the day

[@KingOfBattle119]

Even the Lexus lines trail behind all the luxury competitors. The IS/RC/GS350 all run a 306hp 3.5 V6, while BMW, Cadillac, Infiniti, Mercedes, etc..are all running turbo motors. Infiniti's new 3.0TT is nuts, and is making 400+ horses with bolt-ons and tune. Toyota needs to step their game up in the performance of their cars, it's getting embarrassing.

[@undrgrnd734]

It isn't a toyota 86 video without the incessant droning about the lack of power

[@ConsciousRobot]

Wtf? They literally upgraded everything except for what everyone wanted. That makes absolutely no sense and I really want to hear directly from Toyota on why they are ignoring the consumer. They should've boosted it for 300+hp. Very disappointing.

[@throlyhd9448]

they expect people to swap to a 2jz

[@frontspring1]

they should lower the compression and boost it to around 400hp

[@thirtyonefifty3133]

As a car company you dont want a car that can trump your top of the line models. In this case toyota has their lexus and subaru has their wrx and sti's. If the GT86 has anymore power lets say 225bhp, then it would stump wrx's and Is250s. If only subaru gets the upgrade package then no one would buy from toyota. Aside from those marketing strategy, they have consider that people who want more power will modify it no matter what. the main focus of the car was to make a cheap affordable car that isnt a camaro or mustang and certain not a fwd corolla while having the MPG. This is a college kid car. its for those who need to MPG and a little excitement. If you wanted more power, i hope you would get something that has more than 300hp. For the GT86 its not bad where its at. the price may have gotten out of price range now than before but in the used market its doing good.

[@2010ngojo]

Just get an sti? What other car has 300hp, rwd, 4 seats, and great handling for under 30k?

[@vongdong10]

@@2010ngojo I've always thought the 86 was overpriced for what you get then I remembered the 370Z costs almost double.

[@jcramond73]

The T86 2018 mk2 has all the TRD bits minus the TRD badges, even the red intake manifold. If you really want to make this beast special, throw on the TRD supercharger kit and then you will have a quicker beast.

[@fdeinhassan4794]

This is the kind of review that's just perfect. Awesome video, great job in summarizing everything important to know about the car.

[@JimsReviewRoom]

6:48 literally answered everything. Seriously. Lol

[@csnoopy]

Since this is a special edition, is it wise to buy one as an investment? I mean will prices go up after some time?

[@davidzhao6270]

people who go through 86 heritage would prefer this car without turbo, but if you want, you can add one, what's the problem. adding is easier than removing

[@davidzhao6270]

@Brandon Rains maybe find a shop that can do the job for cheaper? in a shop you also have a choice to add different turbos too.

[@rambhujun8156]

@Brandon Rains if toyota added an option from the factory, the car would be expensive, and then you would be crying for it to be so expensive.

[@Pube83]

The problem? $33,000 with 200hp. That's the problem. When $27,000 family sedans are pushing 280-300 ponies, that's a problem.

[@davidzhao6270]

@@Pube83 if you think this way you've come to the wrong car. I also have a family sedan pulls way more than 300, but these cars drives very different. It's all about 86 heritage, not how fast it is.

[@davidzhao6270]

@@Pube83 if you are counting for $$$ per horsepower, then yes, this car is very expensive. However check this fact out: if you want a better handling car than 86, you have no choice but go to porsche, and that's somewhere around 80 to 120k or more.

[@BlackBruceLeeTheGreatDekuTree]

Why did they switch to this front bumper ? The original FRS front bumper was so much cleaner

[@peterc3619]

BlackBruceLee for real. This shit looks like a wanna be lambo

[@SkittyDoogle]

I work at a Toyota dealer. We have one of these on our lot. It hasn’t as much as been moved in the two months it’s been here. For $33k you could have a spec’d out Ecoboost Mustang with cash to spare, 100 more horses and double the torque BEFORE the factory tune upgrade.

[@enragedcommenter4464]

I have a blue series pearl white brz and it's simply just beautiful. Knowing the horsepower when I bought the car I knew I was going to have to put money into the car to give it power. Either way there's no reason for people to continue bitching about the cars power, it's not only the sexiest affordable car on the market for average people but it's a project car. I've already put 5k+ into my car and it's not only gorgeous but it rides smooth, is a manual and sounds beautiful, I don't street race and going to court for tickets isn't fun so the power fits me fine.

[@LordSeddi]

You can't compare that to a muscle car... this car, as the miata, are for enjoying turns and curvy roads, clean handling with great power/weight relation... is thought for people who enjoy driving and know what they are doing, not for drag race. Americans can't understand it.

[@potatochobit]

apparently you can't understand - there are better cars that are faster AND enjoy turns on curvy roads with clean handling. maybe you don't understand power to weight ratio, kid but you actaully NEED power to MAKE a ratio. did you think an RX7 and S2000 handled like crap? you are in a dream world little man. even the new 2019 camaro handles well despite it's enormous weight just brings more shame to this chump car BRZ that has absolutely nothing to do with the original 86. I hate cheap cash money grabs.

[@gs1zzwmr2]

Seddi Maginless one word AE86 I mean it's not really a word but yeah the AE86 had no power but was fun to drive flat out on curvy roads and it really made you one with the car

[@joekerry123]

I can't agree with this arcane way of thinking about American muscle; I've driven both modern pony cars with mild suspension tweaks it'll perform just fine. Was the 86 incredible; yes its an impressive weapon for the canyon...just don't underestimate what one can achieve with modern American muscle.

[@JayKTS]

I'm from Europe and I love American cars , I owned two vans , a g20.. had a,breakdown with it in Germany the cardan blew off (I'm from belgium) and is now scrap . I also owned a Chevy express explorer (camper) .. Well there I'm driving with my 5,7l v8 4speed, thing is if I drive this thing 150 or 160 km/h I think my car would break down , engine seems so hot when I open the hood so this needed carefull driving With a European or Japanese van you can drive 170 or 180km/h with no problems for a long distance holiday trip with no problems . The engine was a 2.5 turbo diesel and much quicker and reliable than my o so cool looking v8 powered van

[@mrpmj00]

I don't think the Toyota 86 has enough power to accelerate up a mountain road to pass slower cars before getting killed head-on by oncoming traffic.

[@Shaunfromboston]

It's like Toyota wants to give this car everything BUT power, even though power is literally the only thing we've been asking for.

[@alexandertrygg211]

As much as I love Toyota and TRD( I own a MR2 spyder with mostly TRD parts) I don't think this car is worth 35k. I would personally rather get a used lotus and enter the truly exotic sports car market.

[@anibalbabilonia1867]

Man that car is aging well! Still such a beautiful car! I don't think is gonna look that good when they redesign it!

[@JMoasih]

that TRD decal looks dumb🤦🏻‍♂️

[@miatarf4676]

They teamed up with nike

[@JungSooLeee]

@Sideways G 1970s called. They want their underpowered car back

[@tuneman7688]

@Sideways G If they were going to put that decal on they should've made the car white at least so it matches the old imsa cars they fielded with those decals..

[@aname7817]

They should 86 that TRD decal.

[@chrishuber8930]

@Sideways G you think 70s through 90s 50-70 yeat olds want to buy this?

[@deohasslehoff956]

Yay a real refreshment coming soon! 2.4 boxer sounds very nice. Cant wait to pick one up

[@roberteckart7419]

Your last 30 seconds said it all; just add a TURBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@dankbass6549]

Supercharger

[@FC-oh3ho]

Supercharger would be safer. Most people won't even know how to maintenance a turbo

[@Malapropify]

I own a slightly older model. Can confirm, this car needs more power, at least some exhaust and intake and ecu. Then it's starts being much more fun.

[@Jia1337]

200hp is good... if the car weights like 2200 lb.

[@undrgrnd734]

thats lighter than a fucking miata dude

[@MIT2004]

Jia L. 1800

[@potatochobit]

good thing motorcycles exist.

[@mrpmj00]

I don't think the Toyota 86 has enough power to accelerate up a mountain road to pass slower cars before getting hit head-on by oncoming traffic.

[@florda95]

If it had just a little more horsepower, it would be fucking pristine on winding roads. It is already, but they just need more power.

[@claysmell]

Not a fan of the stripe. The colors remind me of an old remote control toy car I had, and also, the first Fast and Furious movie. Does it peel off easy?

[@delzottoj]

Is anyone else surprised with called their special edition a TRD? We all know the car is shit but besides that the presentation of the car is very well done. Good Job!

[@Ritefita]

TRD sticker never was more than a sticker

[@velocity211]

Good video. Are you based in the US? If so then this is just the Toyota 86. Badged as GT86 is in other markets

[@jjsmithlago1234]

The styling makes false promises. For just a little more you can get a 370Z

[@Lofi.z34]

I got my Z for 24k, this car is a joke.

[@cracksemiro6375]

This one won't break every 30 miles (previous 350 owner)

[@Q50rs400]

E las hahaha but the 350z is faster

[@ballinvsxx]

Honestly In Canada this trash is $39k a base 370 is only $29k with $10k in your pocket you could buy a bunch of mods.

[@JustinAbroad]

If i spent that money id rather get a GTI with a tune

[@chriscampbell4239]

I didn't know Beto O'Rourke did car reviews. Enjoyed the hand gestures. A candid and balanced review. Thank you.

[@dfen2614]

"and if you opt for the automatic you are penalized for making a poor choice" savage 🔥😂

[@ajr_e46]

I know everyone goes off complaining about the power and everything but aside from that it's a beautiful car, fun, really good handling car. And if you really want more power, just slap a turbo on it honestly.

[@lonzosmith7618]

Redesign The 86 TRD BUT STILL GOT NO POWER INCREASED

[@antihypebeast767]

"MY FOOT IS FLAT TO THE FLOOR" - Best car line of 2018

[@fredriktorstensson4630]

rice rice baby

[@liveandletlive2894]

Yup just bought 1 of these for my 5 year old instead of a cozy coupe figured the power and understeer should be about even!

[@khd8667]

I own this car The fun in steering n drifting .. Issue ain't powerful

[@JohnDoeC78]

KHD you mean you drift on snow and rainy roads right? Because braking traction in that snail is easy huh? Lol should of bought a Golf R

[@khd8667]

@@JohnDoeC78 Golf R drifting?!!🙄 Drifting on rainy road and track

[@mrpmj00]

Have fun with getting tickets drifting.

[@khd8667]

@@mrpmj00 on track getting tickets?🤣🤣🤣

[@Q50rs400]

Not enough power to drift

[@PrinceNorth]

It takes people so much energy just to hate on the BRZ. I'll admit they did way too much to this particular one without adding power. However the BRZ is generally a good car. I'm getting this or a 370z soon. I can justify getting the brz over the 370z. The base model 370 doesnt even come with an infotainment system and we living in 2019

[@mrpmj00]

Slow as molasses. Even a grandma's car can zip past the Toyota 86. lmao, $33k I can get a V8 Camaro.

[@shaggings]

Not in Europe.

[@LowerYourExpectationsPleb]

Only in Murica. In Europe a V8 camaro costs 55k+ USED. The 86 remains $33k.

[@GastonMaqueda]

V8 Camaro is not a sport car,. Is a Muscle (2 door sedan) designed for straight line driving. The 86 is a real sport designed for curves and mountain roads. The only Chevrolet Sport Car is the Corvette and for the performance and price, plays in other league Going back the the Camaro, In a twisty mountain road, without any driving aids, this little guy will kill the camaro easly

[@LowerYourExpectationsPleb]

+Gaston Maqueda who said camaro is a sports car?

[@GastonMaqueda]

@@LowerYourExpectationsPleb The first commentary, comparing a Muscle with a Sport People who buy this car are not interested in a Muscle

[@erickulach3015]

It doesn’t need a turbo. It’s a perfect platform to turbo your self

[@MyAccountDuh]

just pick up the 2019 Toyota Camry and gain 100 hp... it's sad that the camry makes so much hp and yet these "sporty" cars have around 250 and well below.

[@rambhujun8156]

gt86 would beat the camry in a race track, the gt86 is made for tracks, the car have less power because it's not made for fucken drag racing, it's made for curves, drifting and racetracks.

[@nhqbill]

@@rambhujun8156 Very true, but no one wants to get wrecked by a camry at a red light dude. This is going to be a daily driver afterall.

[@_pinkkbunnyy]

Rambo THANK YOU! Someone finally fucking gets it. It’s derived from the Toyota AE86, a fun, reliable, well handled car. So is the Toyota GT86. It’s not made for the Drag, like @Rambo said. It’s made to drift, race around the track, and deliver Tofu like it’s older brother.

[@dotdot8614]

@@_pinkkbunnyy Race tracks have straights, and this car shares virtually nothing with a Corolla, if there is something it may share its the window switches or some other useless part that all Toyotas share for budget cutting reasons, also the price they are asking for this version is ridiculous, even for it being a limited edition they should have done something else other than giving it a body kit out of NFS Underground 2 and some few tweaks to the suspension, brakes and such. The fact this is at a price range where a good bunch of other sportscars offer more power, same or better handling, and just as much reliability (ahem Type R, ahem MX-5) is stupid. If i wanted a car that is reliable, can drift and is quick around a track, ill grab a MX-5 RF, a Mustang with some options or a WRX

[@ajr_e46]

but the question is, which is more enjoyable to drive?

[@leonhill8447]

I test drove a FRS last year then promptly bought a MR2 Turbo for a fraction the price. I enjoyed the MR2 a lot. These cars will be way more appealing in 10 more years when the price is dirt cheap.

[@bmveBOY]

My food blender has more power then that...

[@Lion_zombie]

This video played next and I was distracted when it started and for the first 30 seconds I thought this was the guy from workaholics lmao

[@mugensamurai]

Come on Toyota even a base mustang 4 cylinder goes faster than this car.

[@JrVtec]

With much more space and in my opinion better styling and almost $1000 cheaper than the base 86 Manual that makes 200hp, $25,680 for 2018 Mustang ecoboost manual 310hp.

[@urmomwuzhere]

can't turn tho

[@greensamurai5805]

A lot faster 😂

[@dotdot8614]

"hurr durr its a muscle car therefore it cant turn" The 2015 Mustang GT beated out the BMW M4 of the same year around the Nurburgring, a car meant to be specialised in being as fast as possible around the twisties..

[@dr.dylansgame5583]

@@urmomwuzhere where do people get the idea muscle cars cant turn/drift if a crappy old r32 can drift or even a r34 then a muscle car can drift hell with enough practice with them you could take a car from dodge and practically keep people out of your rear view mirror indefinitely in rally or touge

[@JK-tu1xx]

$32,000 for the exact same car with a new front bumper, some moderate springs, a $1000 brake kit, and some vinyls and accents. Yet an STI is $34,000 with an extra 100hp, way better brakes, AWD, better handling, turbo benefits, 4 seats, and an all around better car for the money.

[@nostalgic_pokemon_memories]

SLOW CAR, not even a toyota engine LOL

[@lazymarine4890]

That comment is six years too late.

[@Fuzzycuffsqt]

If you look at it differently, they've had 6 years to prevent this comment, and have done nothing about it.

[@H0LDENSUX]

It’s the driver’s fault that’s why, not the cars. Toyota made this car based on the Initial D anime series not some stereotypical evaluation on what a sports car should live up to.

[@toyotabrony]

Austin Wilson not even slow man

[@K03sport]

...the car was designed by Subaru, and is built by Subaru; it is a joint venture, but Subaru is doing most of the heavy lifting. Toyota did offer their engine mgmt, the D4S system with both port and direct injection (8 injectors) and the dip in the torque bad is where the system begins to switch over to direct injection only. Maybe Subaru should just now hire Porsche to build their engines since Porsche is not in the business of flat 4s w/ turbos; like Harley Davidson did with their V-Rod (Porsche designed engine).

[@philip_si]

1418 cars is considered very limited edition? Then what is the Delta S4 stradale or the 205 T16 with around 200 units produced?

[@asaporterfield3736]

The turd edition

[@shinrips]

Does the BRZ come with the upgraded exhaust?

[@jamesgonzales4224]

Brembos, and pilot sports for a car that takes more than 6 seconds to reach 60mph, and more than 14.5 seconds to do the 1/4 mile... niceeee

[@randypender2867]

Its for the bends

[@jamesgonzales4224]

@@randypender2867 so is a Porsche, and most new ones do 0-60 in under 4 seconds...

[@randypender2867]

You do realize thats a dumb comparison considering that the cheapest new porsche you can buy, is a porsche macan for 49k right? For that extra 16k you can build the bottom end, throw a turbo in, header back exhaust, aftermarket cams and valves, and get a decent tune By then this will do 0-60 in under 4 seconds too

[@jamesgonzales4224]

@@randypender2867 I'm not comparing them price wise... your original comment stated that the 86 is "for the bends"...So is a Porsche. Just because a car is "for the bends" doesn't mean it has to be slow af. And let's be honest here, anyone who buys an 86 isn't going to dump 16k into it. If they could afford to dump 16k into this piece of shit, they would've gotten a more expensive car.

[@randypender2867]

"Its for the bends" was refering to the tires and brembos bro But yeah the car is slow

[@bhagat6127]

I think the 86 is good with 205bhp. It's a tuner and Toyota is giving you opportunity to tune it and make it to your own style. This is affordable performance and at the end of the day, it's all about how much fun you have in your car. 205bhp or 85(cars in my country come with this power figure) so you should appreciate what you've got because some of us, don't even get that also.

[@antrinh5525]

it's not that we don't appriciate wat we got, for 33k we cam get way better car like the civic type r, or for less we can get the civic si and with a tune car will have more power but still under 30k.

[@Detz0325]

More money for something that is starting to get overpriced if they keep upping the price. With a trd package that basically just adds cosmetic stuff and maybe slightly more handling stuff for a car that already over handles the power it has.

[@highdesertutah]

Which is faster, this or the Mustang 4 cylinder ecoboost?

[@yangchen7074]

Ricers for life.

[@jerrylor2386]

Do remember that this car is not intended for a straight away, it's man focus is around corners (autocross). If you autocross you'll see these kick higher HP cars all day. I'm not saying those car will lose all the time, but with modifications they will win, but the same thing can be said about this too, with modifications it can do much better. For stock, this a great track car that beats cars that are almost to being double it's price range.

[@collapsingquantumwav]

There is nothing Toyota about this car.

[@GastonMaqueda]

The design and the Inyector system

[@negativeindustrial]

It really does look like the 2000GT tho. I wish it had an I6 to go with the look

[@max1tax1]

2jz

[@toyotabrony]

collapsingquantumwav oh yes it is man. Even if it had a subie engine, there’s a lot of things about this toyota

[@collapsingquantumwav]

@@negativeindustrial Me2 wish it had a inline 6 turbo. Something like the Supra. And made at a Toyota factory.

[@DriversSide]

Body kit looks awesome!

[@2JZDestroyer]

honestly the brz and 86 should have been awd variants considering the companies history for rally . just my two cents

[@SteveOnlin]

gtfo

[@2JZDestroyer]

@@SteveOnlin ?

[@2JZDestroyer]

@@SteveOnlin the Celica and 22b were both coupe awd badasses in the early 90s compared to those two the toyobaru triplets are an impedement.

[@SkeleMusic]

Ill pay attention to new editions of the 86 if theres a turbo edition, or a convertible version. How hard would a motor swap be in used brz to a toyota engine?

[@Raphayel]

Those rims are just..ew add some Japan Racing Rims, they will suit this car 10/10.

[@peterthomson6161]

Ok what did you do to the exhaust tips. Why do they look like it was cleaned with a grinder. What did you spill on the seat.

[@michaellong9799]

The stripe is horrible and poorly conceived. “Should we give it more power or a horrible stripe?.....Stripe it is!”

[@Dtt4]

Yea, TaRDy USA fucked this one up big time. I go for the BRZ TS.

[@Atharun18999]

As an FR-S owner, I admit I really like it but it does mean making compromises. Namely in the power dept. At low 30 thousands, the car needs something more. The interior needs a more premium touch and if the car had about 250-260 hp it'd be perfect. As it stands, as much as I enjoy my FR-S, I miss my 370 and they can be had for around the same price.

[@dang2390]

Get rid of the subaru engine! Toyota can do way better more hp and reliability!

[@Dtt4]

Have you any idea how Complicated it is to create a engine specifically for a sport cars in this time of age? And that reliability? I have my FRS for 5 years and still going have no problem.

[@sshum00]

I miss my 86 so much :(

[@brucb3]

A renamed Celica

[@Ritefita]

true!

[@tofu86oc55]

no one seems to mention that the 86 is by far the most reliable sports car. according to consumer reports, it's the 2nd most reliable vehicle in their whole book. anyone who wants more power can add a TRD supercharger, but it'll affect the reliability in the long run.

[@1tokeover]

Just buy a 370z. They're way better.

[@mrpmj00]

no, 370z clutch is the worst on the market. Google it. Cannot shift 1 to 2 smoothly.

[@MaxiiBoii23]

At the same price point, the TRD Camry is the way to go.

[@epicraptorman]

Is that front bumper ricey? Because if so, I don't care. If I owned a BRZ, GT86, or FRS I'm doing that conversion.

[@BH-BH]

Great review

[@carlosandleon]

that car looks awesome af

[@edoconnor5528]

If it came from the Toyota Ultimate Racing Division, would it have TURD on the inside?

[@MrIhavedonuts]

All that pure 200 horsepower, spinning those Prius wheels and leaving skid marks that can be mistaken for bicycle tire marks

[@lilziggy1313]

So the big difference between the hooked up Subaru version is the damn tires ?

[@mikeferguson1879]

Did they put a supercharger or turbo on it?

[@rsamano4434]

If the Honda Si gets love with only 201hp.. I don't how people can hate on this car..

[@bullcity5057]

Great review man

[@froznpanther]

The headlights aren’t “TRD” Edition. They are standard LED projectors on all the Toyota 86 2017+ The the TRD exhaust is not a “Larger Exhaust” it’s a more direct Smaller One inlet two Outlet Muffler with Smaller Exits and Larger “TRD” exhaust Tips. This “TRD” Exhaust upgrade is not the same upgrade you get when you purchase the TRD exhaust upgrade on other 86 models. It sounds different because the exhaust outlet on this edition is smaller and more restrictive. The just a bit more “tuning” is 0. The gear shift knob used to have double line stitching. They removed it for this model. Making the special edition 860 look better interior wise. The screen is a new display (not size, manufacture and interface) and a lot less creature comfortable to use. The old version has a nice soft touch button at the bottom in setting for “Screen Off”. The new one does not. Instead it has a word hidden in the middle of the display if you squint correctly. The steering wheel isn’t different than the rest of the Subaru’s or Toyota’s. It’s just a color Wrong you are already driving the vehicle. The first thing you should notice while driving the car is THE CLUTCH. It’s overly assisted, like it’s just a pedal with zero feedback. You can’t feel the clutch at all and it’s harder to drive “normally” from a starting position as you feel the need to rev it higher or risk stalling it because YOU CANT FEEL THE CLUTCH ENGAGING! The “Sound” should have been noticed on Start-up first. And the Special edition 860 has a cleaner deeper tone with the TRD exhaust rather than this equally loud Raspy sound. It’s more restrictive. You just took a low speed turn and said you the car came alive with the SACHS dampers.....try driving the car and slinging the car into a real corner before you think they help. Yes the SACHS dampers matter. It still has Prius Tires! They are using 215/40/18 wheels. Which are still too skinny and now Too tall! The 86 and BRZ have 215/45/17 wheels which when you have a car with less torque, you need a smaller rotational force in order to feel the car be “Fast” when it is slow because of its lack of torque. 18” wheels slows the vehicles overall track times with its now worse acceleration. The Brakes are amazing though. The Special edition 860 IS the Highest Premium Subaru model you can get as a Toyota. Not just the TRD edition. And the Subarus and 86’s have the better Wheels as they are 17” and not a rotationally harsh 18” with no added torque Toyota does not brand their cars with what production Model there was. A limited “1400” is a fake number as they will sell as many as they can regardless of how many they said they advertised because they do not keep track of which car is 1 of 1400 or last of 1400 meaning there will likely be well over 2000 in each country that can and is willing to pay for it. They don’t understand what Special edition or Limited means. It’s actually do you want a Track dedicated car? Or do you want a burnout machine to do 1/4 Miles. Yes they both can be track cars. But the 86/BRZ are far better being those than the Camaro/Mustangs (Where the Camaro is faster than the mustang as long as you always buy the packages, base model vs base model the mustang is always faster) You’re still comparing this car to the base model FRS. It’s not the lack of power. All of the Torque and power it has is being more than used when you are actively racing the car and staying above the 5000 RPM. As a daily driver why are you worried about it’s power? It passed people, doesn’t get civic sluggish in 6th going up hills. And the top Track circuit cars in Japan are 215 BHP with no turbo . This is 205, before making it less restrictive with its exhaust and intake. If you want a RWD sports car. That has a track racing pedigree. And you don’t mind the flat Spoiler that isn’t apparently bolted to the truck but stuck on with adhesive. Then yes these cars are awesome! The Brembo Brake upgrade is the only selling factor to this car however. The TRD Body kit is nice but you’re better off getting the Special Edition 860 or Subaru Premium Limited models. OR. Get any of the cars! Use that extra money you saved to buy the Brembo brake kit, Invidia full exhaust, Perrin Intake, ISC Coilovers And Volk racing Wheels and have the car you always imagined for less. And will still do more than the TRD and 860! P.S. you never mentioned anything about the “Noise enhancing” snorkel that runs from the intake to your firewall so you can “Hear the intake engine noises”. Something equipped on every version of these cars. Obviously you never noticed. Because truly nothing changed other than the look of the car, the terrible clutch being over assisted so you can’t feel it and awesome Brembo brakes. P.S. This is my audition. I would like to be your new car review person as clearly you need more information and what to look for. Contact me ASAP and I can even be less Abrasive. (Also willing to work for other car review channels)

[@songs6047]

Dude your right about the clutch on TRD 86 is horrible I PDI one back in October.. In my opinion the new exhaust on the TRD 86 & TRD exhaust from previous years sound just about the same and let’s not forget Subaru actually makes those exhaust so ofc there going to have the infamous drone lol but ride quality is pretty good I like it better then the suspension setup on my 860 SE plus you get those brembos which will handle any future mods you throw at the car I wish the 860 came with brembos lol

[@Olph1]

Nice review.

[@kenkozawa9810]

great review, though you did forget to mention the wheels are unique to the trim too ^^ while I don't think it needs more power, it is sad that Toyota/Subaru decided not to have at least a special edition with a turbo.

[@tougecorsa]

The MX5???? Excuse me but have you never heard of the AE86...

[@PetaBread27]

A minivan with brembo brakes, does that make sense?

[@billyhughes9776]

Toyota are the masters at making something more sporty and cool than it really is,...this is another example. This is coming from a 4Runner TRD Pro owner -- I love it but there is definitely some exterior fluff. Perfect for a poser like me. They're always afraid to push it performance-wise in fear of them dipping their reliability ratings. And 33k is too much for this car -- I'll take a VW GTI Autobahn with more power and function over this and save 4K.

[@xay6460]

there’s been one of these for a little over a month at the toyota by my house and apparently nobody has come to even look at it which is kinda sad

[@OscarDiaz-rd1zm]

Hey bro i love the trd toyota 86 i like those

[@mayssm]

I miss back when sports cars used to be able to hold their own against Mustangs and Camaros (80s and 90s). It's impossible to get a lightweight sports car with good horsepower and good handling that is also affordable. These cars should be 250-325 hp.

[@mottoloveurlala]

Is this a FRS or BRZ or a Scion ?

[@qaon5748]

OMG !!! BEST car ever made. MAN

[@dukedalington]

200HP was okay 15 years ago but bikes make that now. Step up your game Toyota.