2020 Honda CR-V Hybrid vs. Toyota RAV4 Hybrid Slip Traction Test: One Is Clearly Better!

[@Thomas-qk7wf]

Thank you for that. Keeping a close eye on this series since the CR-V Hybrid came out. We're considering one. We'd also like to see how the Ford Escape Hybrid would fare in a test with these vehicles. Thanks again and keep up the great work.

[@jaytate491]

Escape is smaller. The RAV4 is splitting the middle now between the Explorer and the Escape. I was actually looking at the RAV4 because I could lay down in the back of it if i wanted to sleep in it.

[@mobgma]

Rav4 can tow, CRV cannot. Real world MPG on CRV will be 34. Rav4 real world mpg is 38. Infotainment is subjective. crv has full led for 2020 okay. crv is overall a bit more spacious i will admit. rav4 is more $$$ but here is why. rav4 has a full size spare tire, crv does not. rav4 was designed to be a hybrid from chassis up. crv is an old platform that had batteries slapped in it. rav 4 has more rear cargo since the crv slapped batteries in it. rav4 has optional full pano roof. rav4 has an eawd system (debatebly better than a mech awd system but i will say a mech system is better maybe. the eawd could be awesome but toyotas programming of when to use the 2 rear motors sucks imo. rav4 has better MPG numbers both on paper and real world. 2020 rav4 base model has 8" screen vs 5" base model screen on crv. Apple and Android auto are std on Rav4 and optional on the CRV (although most crv will have it). rav4 has full 360 cameras while the CRV does not. rv4 has heated rear seats and crv does not have this. rav4 hybrid has been tested as having a faster 0-60 than the crv hybrid. rav4 does not have leather option but softex fake leather, okay +1 for CRV. CRV doors have plastic all over while rav4 has soft touch all over as in no plastic. rav4 has optional cooled seats in front and crv does not have any option. CRV is ill equipped all in all and the cheaper price justifies it.

[@gondorian1006]

@@jaytate491 the escape has much more passenger space than the RAV4 but less cargo space.

[@fr373969]

@@mobgma great comparison, but from the value perspective, I think CR-V hybrid EX is hard to beat

[@walkerl.9402]

Thomas go Honda!

[@gabrielgoforth7378]

This is my favorite test. I hope you guys continue to do this for all the awd vehicles. Really proves without taking them off road how well it would work. Keep up these tests.

[@DarthNero]

This type of video was much needed. I was tired of seeing jeeps and off-roading most of the time. Glad to see some variety. Can you guys also do a home videos of owners like you’re doing on pick up trucks but on cars and crossovers? It will be interesting to see how the real owners views this cars.

[@Roddy451]

Just a suggestion. This should be a standard test that you should do on all AWD and 4WD vehicles. I am sure it takes quite a bit of time, but it is extremely informative and separates the performers from the wannabes.

[@James-il3tq]

It's no substitute for real world test. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJXNk2t5p6Z0bNk We Take The 2019 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid To The LIMIT Off-Road Deep In The Mountains

[@amagtibay1]

You need to do a slip test with the two front wheels and one back wheel on rollers to showcase the awd system. It will highlight how they transfer power to one back wheel.

[@LonnieC916]

Good review. I had no idea the Rav4 would perform so poorly. The Honda CR-V has my attention.

[@dygardion9130]

Lonnie Cox they are suvs, they both suck

[@James-il3tq]

This isn't the RAV4 with torque vectoring that's on Limited and Trail/Adventure models. Besides roller test who cares, take it for test in real world and see how they do kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJXNk2t5p6Z0bNk We Take The 2019 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid To The LIMIT Off-Road Deep In The Mountains

[@truthistruth615]

@@dygardion9130 , there's nothing wrong with SUV's. You suck

[@nateuther2451]

My wife and I are currently cross-shopping these two and I appreciate the direct comparison. I look forward to seeing some more in-depth reviews of both!

[@alheiman9525]

Crv has no spare tire. If that's not an issue, the Honda is fairly nice!

[@hereigoagain5050]

Tommy's slip test is back! Thank you! We have a RAV4 Hybrid + snow tires. It did great in Michigan.

[@amramweismann6162]

I live in the UK and drove my RAV4 Hybrid 4X4 in Scotland in bad weather on bad farm roads and also watched your RAV4 Hybrid off road test and never found it lacking in grip or felt unsure or that i will get stuck it's not a Land Rover but drives nicely off road or on it

[@cooperf1997]

Please take the hybrid CR-V to the Colorado mountains like you did with the Rav 4. I would love to see that!

[@alansach8437]

The CRV doesn't have the ground clearance that the Rav has. That would be the deciding factor off road. But 99.9% of people will never take either of these vehicles off road (except on maintained gravel or dirt roads). It's not what they are built for.

[@nathanspence4859]

Very true. But it's worth a try.

[@PVo-1111]

Thats why the rav4 has better mpgs combined because of the missing mechanical drive shaft to the rear. Unless you are getting yourself into extreme situations I dont think a slip test should worry most buyers. I offroad my 2019 rav4 hybrid just fine. It gets me to my campsites with confidence. I'm still waiting on the gas version of these 2 to hit the slip test. It's hybrids, I'm not expecting these to be trail bosses. They are hybrids ment for mpg and that's what you buy them for. Get a real truck if you expect these to do any real offroading. Now for on road foul weather driving both of these would be fine. I took my 2017 rav4 hybrid with the 1st gen AWD-i to the colorado mountains in January through deep snow just fine no issues. It got me to the top and back down on all season tires that's why i bought the 2019 because its been proven to me that in real life situations the rav4 works great. I do carry traction boards in the back at all times for the "extreme conditions" lol

[@jackycheung6279]

You are right, I don't think most people wear a Rolex Submariner to diving into deep ocean,even swimming .

[@PVo-1111]

@@jackycheung6279 thats like saying people don't offroad Mercedes Gwagons. Theres a few out there just not much. And the Rolex comparison is a bit much. Id say Casio maybe lol because the people that do dive wouldnt buy that neither

[@ednis32]

You sound like a salty toyota fanboy. Care to read the title again? Slip Test right? Not MPG test? The Honda clearly won, and for argument's sake, to your point that people buy HYBRID for their Mpg, well duh, but people who buy AWDs expect these systems to work or else they'd just get the FWD version hence this AWD TEST.

[@PVo-1111]

@@ednis32 it does work. For what you get this vehicle in when it comes to real world situations, this system works. You won't get stuck on the road during bad weather. You opting to call people names right off the bat to make yourself seem smarter doesn't work bro. Also there's videos out there that doesn't do slip test but actual trail and the CR-V does horrible compared to the Rav. If anyone sounds salty it's you.

[@omarmontoya115]

@@ednis32 and you sound like walking buyers remorse. Take your Honda to the trash along with yourself

[@DJ_Underwood]

Thanks for bringing back the slip test Tommy, I find it really fascinating.

[@valdius85]

I'm disappointed that RAV4 failed the three-roller test. The traction was on the front axle, so it should have managed to go out on trail mode.

[@afcgeo882]

Waldemar Ishibashi Open diff in the front. If the traction control system doesn’t engage, it will not send torque to the opposed wheel. Toyota has had this issue since forever.

[@alienation-k1x]

@@afcgeo882 Toyota is the only US manufacturer that does not produce a 1/2 ton pickup with a rear locking differential. The head engineer, for Tacoma/4Runner/Sequoia and Tundra is on record stating the Tundra, even in the TRD Pro trim doesn't need a rear locker. I hope TFL does more of these tests to prove to Toyota how important locking differentials are, especially in off-camber situations.

[@afcgeo882]

Eat On Tre So what? Toyota never wanted to market toward off-roaders with the Tundra just as they saw no need for a half-ton, which would require too much R&D given the market preference toward American brands. In fact, no foreign company makes a 1/2 or 3/4 pick-up for that very reason. The Tundra does have a decent LSD. It’s not a locking diff, but for light duty pick-up use it does well. Tundra sales are strong, despite it being ancient and that’s what matters. We’ll see what comes on the next iteration of it. Either way, since you felt compelled to add the Tacoma and 4Runner into the mix... they do have rear locking differentials. Also, Toyota is not technically an “American manufacturer”, whatever you mean by that. They have some cars they make in the US, but it is still, very much a Japanese company.

[@alienation-k1x]

@@afcgeo882 LUL @ "no foreign company makes a 1/2 ton for that reason". Go look at the Nissan Titan Pro-4X, it has a proper rear locking differential.

[@blaneblue1739]

@@alienation-k1x And nobody is buying it.

[@traildawgsoffroad5156]

I really like these tests. They show the computers intelligence when it comes to awd systems instead of driver/tire skill like most tests out there. As a fan of this, can we start seeing 4x4 full size trucks do this same test? I'm curious to see what the difference is between manufacturers. Thanks guys.

[@pinakmiku4999]

Honda CRV just smashed the test! Didn’t expected this. Excellent job Honda!

[@jamesyang4077]

I have a Honda CRV hybrid and I feel that it maneuvers great under snow. The rear wheels have enough amount of power so that it’s hard to get stuck in the snow when you’re in the stop and go traffic, especially making a left turn where there’s usually more snow on the lane.

[@subazealand9158]

No surprise. Toyotas in general they have a weak AWD system. Even the petrol versions, with a much better technology, they still struggle in some of these tests. I think the CR-V still has the stigma of bad AWD due the older generations issues, but even the petrol version of the CR-V it does quite well for what it is

[@mcalebeb]

Baltazar Campos Nieto very true. Considering the videos we have seen of the older systems.

[@Phrancis5]

Yeah I've been pretty impressed with my 2017 CRV when light off roading. This new hybrid uses the same mechanical awd sys, so it should be the same result.

[@mtunofun1]

I have the Passport with the watered down SHAWD. Very good performance when I drove in Grand Canyon National Park during a snow storm.

[@MoneyMaking861]

They hybrid has a crappy awd system!

[@subazealand9158]

@@mtunofun1 I think current generation of CR-V it has a decent AWD, and more capable than many people think it is. But if you want something more off road orientated your Passport is the way to go

[@ouch1011]

Interesting result, especially since the first non hybrid versions of this generation of CRV had notoriously weak awd systems. The center clutch would often overheat long before you were clear of an obstacle, or the system would not be able to transfer enough torque to the rear wheels in the case of a loss of traction on the front. I actually have had a few clients with brand new crvs at my shop insisting that their awd doesn't work because the front tires just spin in the snow and they don't go anywhere. Happens every winter since this generation came out

[@philippernice8769]

The Toyota all-wheel-drive system is disappointing but I don’t think many people are leaving the pavement in the hybrid vehicles

[@James-il3tq]

Nevermind slip test, it's not real world. RAV4 hybrid EAWD much improved over previous model with more hp and torque and better VSC. While it doesn't have torque vectoring like Honda's it's fairly impressive in poor climate and off-roading. I've taken both off-roading (mild to moderate). Remember tires mean more then AWD system. Winter tires help more then AWD in winter and off road tires help just as much as AWD when going off the beaten path. Check out Tommy off-roading RAV4 hybrid. He was pretty impressed, so was I! kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJXNk2t5p6Z0bNk

[@lamyaanm2587]

@@TheKing-hr7uh I'm considering getting the hybrid limited but didn't find anyone who used it. in your experience, do you recommend it? pros and cons? It'll be my first car so I'm nervous

[@pbear216]

My Rav4 Hybrid is amazing off-road. If you get stuck, you had no business being on that trail anyway. If it can clear it, it can drive on it, plain and simple. The only limiting factor offroad is ground clearance here.

[@aaronjhall]

@@James-il3tq This video is a perfect showcase where they take the same car with 4WD and summer tires and compare it to 2WD with winter tires. Spoiler alert: 4WD cant make up for crappy tires kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6XEqnuHjtZ0ack&ab_channel=TyreReviews

[@parsley0120]

I'm kind of surprised at the number of people that are disappointed with the RAV4's results. The RAV4 Hybrid doesn't have the mechanical AWD system that the CR-V Hybrid has, even just knowing that one fact it should come as no surprise that the RAV4 Hybrid isn't going to perform as well. I had a 2019 RAV4 Hybrid through the winter and its AWD system won't blow you away, by any means, but it is capable of assisting in starts and up hills. If you're used to mechanical AWD systems and then drive a RAV4 Hybrid during the winter, the difference is crazy. It's still capable, to an extent, but it's an entirely different feel.

[@lawnmoose]

I love this test!

[@rondail5675]

Tommy, put some oil on those rollers!!

[@TFLclassics]

I did, they are just super squeaky

[@brl5755]

Grease, not oil

[@mugensamurai]

Thanks to this video dealers will no longer be able to markup the price past msrp on the Rav4. Thank you!

[@Bjd79]

I love my 2012 Honda CR-V EX-L AWD

[@rahulrane1658]

I own a RAV4. The AWD on it sucks. Cornering during snow, it drifts out of line, even with snow tires on. Same with the Highlander. I have a Pilot and that thing hugs the ground like anything. Same thing with the CRV which I tested in the showroom - We are trading our RAV with a CRV soon. With Toyotas if you want some good traction, you would need to go with a 4Runner or Sequoia, the lower vehicles are BS :-)

[@rik999]

What happens when the two front wheels and one rear wheel are on rollers? Can enough power be sent to a single rear wheel to pull the car out?

[@valdius85]

Have a look at this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6exkpyOr8mnpK8

[@J-W.-]

Probably not the Toyota since its power output is slim.

[@angelgjr1999]

Use the old hand brake trick. Locks both rear tires. Like a locked differential.

[@J-W.-]

@@angelgjr1999 LOL! These cars have Electornic parking brakes which will automatically disengage if you put into drive.

[@angelgjr1999]

Jonathan Washington Oh my god, these CARS are garbage!

[@josuesoto9999]

Amazing video, but I would like to see a video for the gas models such as RAV4 TRD, Adventure or limited since they have the torque vector system.

[@TylerMillhouse]

They tested the TRD in another video, and it could push itself off the rollers with one rear wheel.

[@ia6980]

This is some advanced testing, interesting scenarios, thanks

[@s.j.1298]

Thanks for doing this type of testing. Def helps differentiate two close competitors.

[@johnbentley364]

This is also why you're 100% fine getting the base model if you live in the south. The Rav4 AWD only delivers 50% power to the rear on demand. You're basically in 2WD until it senses the rear is needed. That's not to say the AWD doesn't help at all, just that you'd be paying for something you don't really need unless you live up north where you're gonna be on ice and snow more than 2 days a year.

[@tmmsplace]

I had a RAV4, it was a 2009. The 4W drive system was great on dry Road, pretty good in the rain, not good in snow. Disappointed it’s not improved in over 10 years. Keeping my ‘98 suv with old school 4WD

[@trudgyhd]

Love these type of comparisons

[@jongvzman9752]

Thank you guys. I currently own a 2019 crv awd. And a 2021 corolla. I was looking to trade up the corolla for the rav4 hybrid instead if going for a 2ns crv (hybrid) bc of mpg. this vid made me realize a 2nd crv is the best choice due to bad winters in New York. I rather lose 3-6mpg n have a reliable awd

[@cascivic]

Great job Tommy 👍 glad to see slip test back

[@BPJac]

Ah man, I'm disappointed in the RAV. I'm a huge Toyota fan, so each time they lose a shootout it hurts my soul :-(

[@_Chev_Chelios]

Why are you a huge Toyota fan? BTW, can you help me pronounce TRD? lol

[@BPJac]

@@_Chev_Chelios My dad had a Toyota dealership where I basically spent my childhood. Just say the letters dude.

[@afcgeo882]

No reason to stop being one. Toyota has a giant range of 4WD and AWD vehicles for different uses. The hybrids are made for street use, not off-roading, and they’re great at it. If you need heavier duty (slightly), get the Adventure/TRD trim. If you need even more, get a 4Runner. Honda doesn’t make any real iff-roaders. They all come in one capability. They’re not bad... they’re average. That suits most people, but Toyota has a bigger range. Even the Prius and Camry have AWD now. Not Honda. Honda just does the average. That’s not to say Honda sucks. In fact, I’d probably get this CR-V over the Rav4, but... if you want something else, you’re SOL with Honda.

[@_Chev_Chelios]

Josh's Drawing Life I bet yer a huuge TRD fan yer self !! 💪🏽💩✊🏽

[@BPJac]

@@_Chev_Chelios you are just a Troll with nothing better to do. Goodbye

[@alwaysiyi272]

I would still pick the RAV4 Hybrid because I think it looks better and I think this AWD system wasn't designed for like this type of stuff but mainly for road use and on the main road the RAV4's AWD is more competent and efficient that's who it is also after from 0-60 on the road, overall the CRV AWD might be slightly better but I think the RAV4 is a better vehicle overall, we have been looking at these two and w keep leaning towards the RAV4 and lets be honest no one is actually taking their Hybrid crossover for efficiency Offroad lol, if you want to do that her the TRD off-road or Adventure

[@James-il3tq]

RAV4 hybrid actually pretty capable off-road! kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJXNk2t5p6Z0bNk We Take The 2019 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid To The LIMIT Off-Road Deep In The Mountains

[@helloukw]

So you buy an SUV just for the road? I think it should be an overall (all roads) good vehicle, not just on road where let's be honest, a wagon or sedan would do a lot better than most SUVs.

[@rickyloganjr.2362]

Tommy 🙂, excellent comparison vid.

[@lifereview2023]

Let me just say thank you for your videos. I have watched your channel for a while and it seems like every time I wonder about a vehicle and how it will do you guys make a video the next week. Keep it up.

[@Kburd-wr6dq]

I have the rav4 hybrid and it did pretty good in this years NY winter

[@afcgeo882]

Kyle Burdick This year’s winter was extremely mild.

[@xiebaiqin]

Because literally there's no snow for the northeast this winter.

[@Kburd-wr6dq]

@@xiebaiqin I agree that we didnt have that many snow storms but we had 2 or 3 storms with 6+ inches in my area of NY.

[@afcgeo882]

Kyle Burdick Do you have winter tires on it? I lived in Syracuse for years and had two cars: 1998 GMC Jimmy AWD and a 1991 Buick Regal (fwd, of course). The Buick drove great with snow tires. Better than the Jimmy did with AT tires. That’s not to say the Rav can’t cope, but rather to emphasize the winter tire capability when not mentioned in anecdotes.

[@Kburd-wr6dq]

​@@afcgeo882 We don't usually put snow tires on our cars, we just use all seasons. My father plows snow in the winter and practically has to leave to go plow during snow storms and he does perfectly fine with all seasons and he drives a 15' Mazda 3 manual. The only time he ever really has an issue is when he tries to get in the our steep driveway and he just needs to get speed and hes all good. Before we got the rav we had a 15' pilot and we kept all seasons on and it did perfectly fine, the only car we actually put snow tires on was the 2008 vw rabbit which wasn't even that necessary because its not driven that much let alone in winter storms. I definitely understand the importance of snow tires but we haven't had any issues with any of the cars that had all seasons.

[@HoosierDaddy_]

I'd like to see all of these 4wd/awd cars and trucks put to this test.

[@alexyakuba2805]

I was hoping that Toyota would make that rear motor a bit more aggressive to kick in sooner. I can see it being a problem on a snow when you need to start from a traffic light. It is much better than a previous model, but still not there yet in my opinion.

[@superlight47]

I love the RAV4 Hybrid, which will be my next vehicle to replace my 2001 Corolla. I knew that the Honda will do better on your slip test, because the electric motor does not have enough horse and torque to push when the front wheels have no traction and power distribution is not enough for when 3 wheels are slipping to enable the one wheel at the back or front with traction to push or pull the vehicle out of slippy issues. However the RAV4 still meet my daily driving needs year round.

[@MrJamesLuz]

Asy4life-67 my buddy bought a RAV4 Hybrid when his Subaru was totaled by a truck. He loves it except for the tiny fuel tank, but it still does well on Road trips and he said it performed perfectly in a bad Midwest snow storm

[@afcgeo882]

MrJamesLuz 14 gallons isn’t tiny compared to 15 on a Subaru.

[@superlight47]

@@MrJamesLuz That is wonderful to know it did well in the snow, that is just perfect for me here in NY. My old 2001 Corolla get me to and from work in snow faithful without ever getting stock, so The RAV4 Hybrid E/AWD will just be more sure footed for me. A 14 gallon tank I will not consider small do.

[@christinarizos8577]

I'm glad I waited for the Honda to have a hybrid. This has confirmed my new car choice!

[@alheiman9525]

Good luck without a spare tire though

[@chriscarguy]

Christina Rizos you better wait, the Rav4 got over 41mpg and the crv got 35mpg in their gas milage test. You better not be to hasty

[@robertrousseaux1059]

We have the RAV hybrid, in slipping conditions the dash display shows which tire is turning and which isn't , usually it shows all four tires taking off from a stop . There is a setting in the menu that allows you to decide that. I will look at ours when it's back home. Haven't been stuck yet.

[@mikemcintosh9933]

Very interesting thank you. Seriously considering the Honda.

[@thisisTuckahoe]

Just got back from a month in CO with my Rav 4. I had some sketchy moments going down snow packed mountain passes but ended up figuring out that the AWD system performs MUCH better when you press & hold the traction control switch to fully turn off the TCS system.

[@RoelLopez92]

I feel like he kept letting off when the Toyota started to figure it out. Toyota’s take a long time to figure things out but I’ve seen videos of these rav4 hybrids off-roading and they do really well just got to keep the throttle down and let trail mode do it’s thing

[@aaronkimball7092]

You would expect these popular (not so cheap) crossovers to perform a little better

[@James-il3tq]

Take them off rollers and into real world. They both perform well for day to day use in winter and light off-roading, which is all 99.9% of people do. I have a RAV4 hybrid XSE and it's very capable in winter and light off-roading in summer kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJXNk2t5p6Z0bNk

[@geekstar2937]

Honda did a pretty good job. The 3 roller test gives hard times even for much more expensive 4x4 cars like Audi and BMW. From what I've seen Subaru performs the best in these tests by far.

[@johanfolkesson5170]

Thanks for valuable insights! I would not have thought the RAV4 would perform so badly. I’m also a bit disappointed, because I think the principle of the separated drivetrain is quite reasonable (on this type of car), and I’m not convinced that this is what causes the bad result in this test. Agreed, in real offroad situations, it should suffer from the low rear wheel torque, but I think, in this test (and on my sometimes unevenly icey slope at home), the difference between failure and success might come down to how well the system manages the brake on free slipping wheel(s).

[@rsl3600]

Someone mentioned tire size in relation to the rollers. Looking up the tire sizes used for each car shows that the RAV4 has smaller tires. Not much smaller, just maybe about 1" But smaller tires will fall "deeper" into the rollers, thus the "hill" they see is steeper. Still like the test though.

[@alansach8437]

Another thing to consider, however, is ground clearance. This can be just as important or more so off road or even in deep snow on road. The Rav offers over an inch more I believe. Honda, for some reason, just doesn't seem to think clearance is a big deal. The only times I have ever gotten stuck in my CRV is when it has gotten high centered. We all know that sometimes FWD with good tires will beat AWD and the wrong tires Same is true with clearance. It can be the most important factor.

[@bettymaverick1098]

I am a Toyota owner since 1974. I looked at the CRV a few years ago. I liked it but the transmission problems were just to much to gamble on for the money. I have the Seinna front wheel drive and the traction controls saved me a few times. Not sure in the value of a hybrid all wheel drive. I would think there are better options if traction is a normal need for you.

[@robc8593]

I extended tested both, the RAV hybrid rear motor is very weak, despite AWD its still easy to spin the fronts on a quick pull away, the Honda is still mechanical AWD so power to the rear and is much better behaved. Its disappointing in that I had a hybrid Mitsubishi Outlander (also electric motor front/rear) and it had fantastic traction, impossible to scrub the fronts as power split so well and proven over several winters of snow to have no problems. I still bought the RAV hybrid AWD as on balance it worked out better for me, but on some points the Honda was the better, more advanced vehicle for sure.

[@jerrymyahzcat]

The Honda was just starting to move on the diagonal test when you took your foot off the gas and tried again with the traction control off. Should have just persevered a little longer. Should also have tried the 3 wheel one with just one rear wheel having traction. Honda has always had a superior AWD system to Toyota in this class of vehicle and indeed even in other classes.

[@jvk813]

So if Toyota Rav4 has no driveshaft underneath connecting to the rear wheel, then why can’t they remove the hump on the floor in the middle seat and make it at least flat like the one in Crv?

[@regsparkes6507]

That test surprised me,..h'mmm ! I too, was hoping that the RAV4 would win hands down,..I have been 'educated' again.

[@pranjalsharma479]

The Crv was criticized alot when its awd used to fail in these tests

[@underscr0e]

Just a suggestion, maybe use a more visible piece of tape for your tests! Love your videos!

[@tax2607]

Go Honda these situations can easily happen in snow here in Canada. No wonder CRV sells so well here. Can you try same test with Plot vs highlander. Any news if they'll ever be a Honda Pilot Hybrid? Great video as usual TFLCar. Thanks.

[@brentonwelty502]

That rav4 is absolutely stunning 😍

[@v60polestar88]

Brenton Welty stunningly stuck!!! The hybrid AWD system isn’t very good.

[@alienation-k1x]

Yeah, except the engineering is far inferior when compared to the CR-V.

[@patrickgowar2234]

Both very good cars. I’ll have the Toyota for it’s good fuel consumption. I drive a Honda 2.2 iDtec which did 66 mpg on a recent trip travelling at the speed limit. The car is 10 years old

[@underscr0e]

Would love to see a review like this with the mazda cx-5 turbo awd.

[@XGen_23]

Thank you for making the video. Now I know my CR-V Hybrid capability

[@grifster981234567890]

Should do a slip test on the GMC/Chevrolet truck to demonstrate the G80 automatic locker.

[@rncondie]

The mechanical drive in the CRV hybrid delivers more power to the rear wheels. I own the Rav 4 hybrid 2019 and driving in 12 inches of snow on pavement last winter was no problem. I would like to see this same test when the Rav 4 Prime is released. My guess a bigger electric motor in the Prime will deliver more torque to the rear wheels

[@keithallsop]

The battery is higher voltage in the Prime versus Hybrid, but the specs for rear HP and torque are the same, both avehicles re 89 lb.ft torque which is the key parameter for electric motors. So no, the Prime will not do better in tests that need wheel wheel traction. There is extra power to the front wheels, and that may help in some of the tests. In fact with the extra weight of the bigger battery, will probably do worse in some roller test, but possibly better in real snow where the weight may help to grip, like putting bricks in the back of a pickup truck. If traction is your primary need, buy a Forester, full time mechanical AWD.

[@poatalplace2285]

Whatever l pick up Rav4. For 17 years no problem with not so expensive. After l tried to ride Honda, l feel like top of tin box. For normal commuter Rav4 is very reliable, trustable vehicle.

[@morrisbutrafili987]

Great vid! Please keep em coming!

[@joegarrison8611]

I have been on the fence about buying an AWD Compact SUV, mostly between the RAV4 and the Tucson. I was REALLY starting to lean towards the RAV4 Hybrid. This just threw that one out the window. Lets see this test with the Forrester and Tucson please.

[@gdvadventours5512]

Based on their testing of Hyundai and Kia awd system,they tended to Overheat and get stuck.I will just go for Forester

[@JusticeGamingChannel]

I would like to see this done with the Adventure model RAV4 versus regular whatever.

[@jonb2139]

Great video Tommy! Very impressed by the hondas performance!

[@erichachey]

Seems to me that if it weren't for the rollers moving around and the tire grabbing the side of the rails, that Rav4 would still be up there on the 3-wheel slip test.

[@Phrancis5]

yeah I noticed that too

[@nhanquach4388]

Does the non-hybrid versions would have the same results you think?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

In case of CR-V: the same result. In case of RAV4: petrol versions have much better awd systems.

[@rondail5675]

Tommy, I would like to see a GM truck with the auto-locking rear-diff on the rollers. I would like to see how soon the rear-diff takes to auto-lock.

[@edu7514]

Tommy do some truck 4w testing on the rollers

[@alzhn]

I think a truck might be too heavy for those rollers. If I recall correctly, they got them off a conveyor line so I doubt it could support a full-size truck.

[@chriscarguy]

alzhn that’s exactly what I was thinking

[@woffordsoverlandjourneys8618]

I would go with the Honda

[@_Chev_Chelios]

2:34 traction content starts

[@MrAWD-ox3gk]

Can you please do Kia Telluride vs Toyota Highland vs Honda Pilot AWD test on the rollers???

[@kwannak]

Interesting video. However, the Toyota AWD system uses power for the rear wheels from a hybrid battery. We don't know if at the time of the test, the hybrid battery was fully charged. If the hybrid battery was not fully charged at the time of the test, I wouldn't expect the rear wheels to be powered by a 'dead' hybrid battery. Perhaps I've missed something.

[@chriscarguy]

I didn’t think about that. That’s a good point!

[@mobilcams]

If that is the case, then the generator will power the wheels instead of the battery..

[@kwannak]

@@mobilcams My understanding of the hybrid system is that it does not use the conventional alternator. I'm not an expert so please don't quote me on that.

[@Juanplusone]

Please compare all 3 awd systems on the 2020 Highlander. Thank you.

[@radzer0966]

Love the Honda, but the MPG test showing it so much lower would prob make me look more at Toyota.

[@shyennegilzean5692]

The crv is wonderful

[@blaneblue1739]

For granola people.

[@shyennegilzean5692]

@@blaneblue1739 😂but its nice better than the rav4 to me

[@rsl3600]

One thing about your roller system- It means that the cars are driving "uphill" to leave the rollers. Given that all cars are tested the same way, this is not necessarily unfair, however it might be interesting for you to estimate just how much of a hill we are looking at. I suspect it's quite steep.

[@miguelborromeo6010]

Great test. I was really expecting this. I wish Toyota had an optional LSD at least for the woodland edition. I still prefer the electric rear motor vs the driveshaft only because you get better gas milage (+3 mpg) vs the CRv. Thats why you pick a hybrid right ?

[@philm6674]

Toyota seems like drive train is setup for right hand drive. Might have been different setting it on the opposite wheels. Not to say the CRV didn’t win fair and square. I always like your videos. Thanks.

[@adriches406]

Shame you guys don't have the Peugeot 3008 in the USA. The Hybrid4 model completely smashes this test. It's on KZbin somewhere.

[@BigGroupHug]

I love these tests. You need to patent this or present this to the IIHS for their program

[@chobitrial]

Wow I’m impressed by the Honda

[@bob4465]

Old fashion locking hubs, transfer case and Positraction would work best!

[@freedom_foz_6337]

Man so happy I picked the Forester over the Arab 4 hybrid-they are close in mpg and cost. The forester does awesome in snow, sand, rock and mud. No rock crawler but does very well for taking the family in adventures.

[@paulc2548]

I am sure four wheel drive system with mechanical connection to the engine/transmission will always be a better system then the battery powered one... also when the rear battery is exhausted, it it just a free wheeling rear tires. So, the Hybrid RAV4 AWD is a sub-par system as far as four wheel drive system is concerned.

[@jonathanryan4212]

If you are worried about snow performance my wife’s accord hybird with snow tires performs better than my crv. Just another thought...

[@markp6586]

And my 18 CRV AWD is like a skateboard in the snow! The worst traction ever and very unsafe. That along with oil dilution problems makes me want a RAV4 even more. I want long term reliability and don’t want to deal with hybrid battery replacement after 10 years. That narrows my choices to the RAV4 since Honda’s reliability is tanking in a big way these days!

[@fat1234568]

@@markp6586 does it have the Bridgestone Dueler on it? My 2016 came with those stock and felt like a death trap, switched to Firestone destination le2 and now it's great in the snow.

[@Tuppoo94]

An older gen Honda CR-V was comprehensively humiliated by the Swedish magazine Teknikens Värld. The car couldn't get off the rollers when they were placed under the front wheels. Basically no power was transmitted to the rear wheels, despite the car supposedly having all-wheel-drive. Honda's excuse was something along the lines of "conditions where rear wheels have no traction never occur on public roads". Looks like they may have learned their lesson.

[@brianoconner3090]

Honda wins unanimously. I'm gonna buy 2 of them tomorrow.

[@chriscarguy]

You know they released the MPG test up a mountain and the Rav4 got 41.4 mpg and the CRV got like 35mpg. Gotta keep that in mind as well

[@steveam29]

These AWD systems suck. Why in 2020 can these car not figure out that they have 2 wheels losing traction and brake those wheels. It’s lame AF.

[@mikek5298]

Steve Amabile Why in 2020 are people STILL trying to sound “cool” by using the completely unnecessary “AF”.

[@camaroman101]

@Eat Jat it's not a matter of more hardware, it seems like the software of the traction control system. Even jeep has this issue with the trailhawk compass and renegade, where if it detects 3 wheel slip it just ends up cutting power to all 4 wheels.

[@steveam29]

Mike K the same reason in 2020 people like you make dumb comments like that.

[@underscr0e]

They need them to react safely on an icy highway while having the traction system react appropriately to get traction everywhere.

[@claudeperrault4164]

Just for the fun of it, do this test with a new JL! Unless you have done it and I missed it! Thanks for your great videos!

[@camaroman101]

That's no fun, its like shooting fish in a barrel.

[@daingnapusit]

Are the tires the same? I do believe the tires can make a big difference here?

[@mobgma]

Facts Rav4 can tow, CRV cannot. Real world MPG on CRV will be 34. Rav4 real world mpg is 38. Infotainment is subjective. crv has full led for 2020 okay. crv is overall a bit more spacious i will admit. rav4 is more $$$ but here is why. rav4 has a full size spare tire, crv does not. rav4 was designed to be a hybrid from chassis up. crv is an old platform that had batteries slapped in it. rav 4 has more rear cargo since the crv slapped batteries in it. rav4 has optional full pano roof. rav4 has an eawd system (debatebly better than a mech awd system but i will say a mech system is better maybe. the eawd could be awesome but toyotas programming of when to use the 2 rear motors sucks imo. rav4 has better MPG numbers both on paper and real world. 2020 rav4 base model has 8" screen vs 5" base model screen on crv. Apple and Android auto are std on Rav4 and optional on the CRV (although most crv will have it). rav4 has full 360 cameras while the CRV does not. rv4 has heated rear seats and crv does not have this. rav4 hybrid has been tested as having a faster 0-60 than the crv hybrid. rav4 does not have leather option but softex fake leather, okay +1 for CRV. CRV doors have plastic all over while rav4 has soft touch all over as in no plastic. rav4 has optional cooled seats in front and crv does not have any option. CRV is ill equipped all in all and the cheaper price justifies it.

[@jzila9900]

Cool story bro

[@BurrenSHdrums]

Here in Spain, the crv is more expensive than the rav

[@TemoTemo1995]

Can you make similar test for their older models? i have not seen one yet

[@Jack.driver]

Here they are: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYKqi6CHjLGJpqs kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmLUomCgmdZpp8k

[@TemoTemo1995]

@@Jack.driver i meant 1st gen CR-V vs 1st gen RAV4, there are no videos about them

[@Jack.driver]

@@TemoTemo1995 1st generation of CR-V is the same as HR-V which you can find somewhere. Rav4 is missing.

[@ajrollan5304]

This actually help me in choosing the Honda, I was set on getting the rav4 till I saw the video, ty

[@gvbarajas]

aj rollan I have the crv and I love it. I love the quality of it all.

[@waseemsells5378]

Great comparison test!! Honda!! 🔥

[@clinteschroeder3091]

pallisade or telluride traction test please