2020 Honda CT125 Hunter Cub Trail - 13Tooth Front Sprocket Installation

[@Wh1t3m34t]

Great vids! Thanks for uploading! As of right now, there's 1 dislike on this vid, so I don't know what's wrong with that sicko...

[@ridewithwarro]

don't be concerned about the loser who hits me with the thumbs down every clip for the past 50 clips he is actually a royal enfield forum member who holds a grudge and subscribed to my channel just so he can hit the thumbs down every clip. lets face it- apart from his right hand and a keyboard - all he has ismental issues and a very black heart! more importantly-dont miss my next ride clip-took it late today. unreal how this bike goesin the forest. if you only just come in and look and never return...it will be worth it. i flogg the crap out of it...lol

[@Wh1t3m34t]

@@ridewithwarro If he watches every clip and then thumbs down, doesn't that still mean youtube endorsement for you? ;D Your vids are great and are very much welcome after an ordinary day, the CT110 is the bike of kings to me and your vids are just confirming it - Thanks again for taking the time!

[@ridewithwarro]

@@Wh1t3m34t no he never watches..lol just hits them immediately. i have watched him hit a clip within 2 minutes of posting...showing no view time either. just holds a grudge. i think he is pi//off because ive had a lot of new bikes and he has had just a couple can't help that. its got nothing to do with me what he's got and i don't really care...but unfortunately he does

[@tonyciantar6417]

@@ridewithwarro good on you, don't let him trouble you. Very nice vids, I wonder what that bird is saying ?

[@ridewithwarro]

@@tonyciantar6417 hard to say with the birds. they are in the trees somewhere and i can't see them but that mike picks them up. last clip i think picked up a kookaburra too. i should forget the bikes and just do bird clips...lol

[@BrassLock]

It never ceases to amaze me that viewers don't read the details in the description or listen to the commentary before they ask a question that's already been answered in both places. Must be exhausting to post these videos. Good work Warro.

[@ridewithwarro]

Exactly!...lol

[@stephenGDL]

I never thought of marking the nut with color, when adjusting chain, so I can consistently adjust both sides correctly! Brilliant!

[@ridewithwarro]

i find it too hard to judge where i've been with a chain adjustment -but using the permanent marker makes the task a lot easier to do

[@phiberoptick]

Great video for a new CT125 owner, thank you.

[@ridewithwarro]

Glad to help. very hard to beat the 13t sprocket mod. gives much better performance. it does at times throw a abs light but i can live with that. plus when you do a respart it goes out again.

[@toddwmac]

"pull me timber out"....no better piece of instruction on KZbin...anywhere! Thanks Warro!

[@ridewithwarro]

yeah and lucky i did too...lol i may have lost some spokes. after that bike ran well on the bike test ride clip i uploaded yesterday. a lot quicker in the pine forrest and better on the highway against headwinds

[@jaman5735]

you'll go 10kmh slower on the top speed, but you'll have noticeable increase on the torque. but you knew that. awesome bike and channel!!!

[@ridewithwarro]

well after i put thepiggyback on the enfield and put it back together-we will find out. ....or i might get out and do a quick lap. appy to hear you enjoy the content too

[@mr.paladin8721]

A little hint here for DYI. Always adjust the chain by pulling it back. If you over-tighten it, then loosen it up a lot and slide the wheel forward, then start working it back again. Never over tighten it, then loosen it up a half turn and try to push the tire back to the tight position. It doesn't work well. When you tighten the axel bolt, your adjusters are always loose. Always adjust by pulling back. Also you should get a wax-based chain lube like Dupont Chain Saver (Amazon). It doesn't throw-off and it doesn't get all greasy-dirty-black like the oil based chains. It's a dry lube. It's interesting to note that the original CT90/110 had lower gear ratios (without the low range) than the new CT125 has. Here are the numbers: CT90/110: 1st 2.538:1 (CT125 2.5:1), 2nd 1.611 (CT125 1.55), 3rd 1.19 (CT125 1.15), 4th 0.958 (CT125 0.923). Fairly close but definitely geared lower. Primary driven gear reduction of the CT90/110 was 3:1 (15/45 sprockets). Primary driven gear reduction of the CT125 is 2.79:1 with stock 14/39 gears. 13/39 would be 3:1 which would be the same as the stock CT90/110. I wonder if your top speed will be 45-50 MPH now like all 6 of my old ones were, or if the newer, fuel injected engine will boost that?

[@ridewithwarro]

all good points there-thanks for the imput

[@bultacowally]

Chain wax is THE worst "lubricant"??? ever invented. It sticks to the chain like it is suppose to, then picks up and holds every freaking piece of dirt that flies on to it and holds it forever. You can not wash that stuff off either. Not with soap and hot water, solvents, acid, nothing. And every time you put more on it just keeps building up thicker and thicker. They were developed for lazy asses that can't or don't want to do regular maintanence. Traditional oil based lubricants are a much better albeit messier (but so what)way and if you can't make the time and effort to maintain you toys then just don't have them.

[@spydie]

@@bultacowally You're entitled to your opinion, no matter how nasty it is.

[@slick41]

As always, a top notch video with thorough explanation and sizes of all fasteners. Very well done.

[@ridewithwarro]

thanks-happy to hear you enjoyed today's clip

[@slidersgliders5516]

I have the old 110 trail Honda and the 90 . They are nice With the HI and LOW switch on the bottom of the transmission . ✌️ Awesome video 👍

[@ridewithwarro]

not sure how this would run against those classics. it appears or from what i have read they can go almost anywhere. this 13t front sprocket helped liven this bike up and gave i more low down torque to get into it more...lol trying to go for a bigger rear but so far none available

[@slidersgliders5516]

@@ridewithwarro it would be cool to see a comparison video. Old-school vs new one.

[@ridewithwarro]

@@slidersgliders5516 yeah i actually know a couple of guys with postie bikes but not sure about the duel trnsmission jobs. they should be around here for sure

[@scottboyan]

Nice, Warro. Good job. I’m interested to see the results.

[@ridewithwarro]

You and me both! should complete my upgrade on the enfield but seeing this is getting a bit of interest i might take it out for a quick run -then go back to the 500...lol

[@G56AG]

A couple handy tips: Never put a worn chain on a new sprocket, or a new chain on a worn out sprocket! A worn out chain can damage a new sprocket and a worn out sprocket can damage a new chain! You showed this at the end, count the flats on the adjuster bolt, always adjust both sides the dame number of flats, say 3 flats on the right then 3 flats on the right, then rotate the rear tire to even things out. You should have rotated your rear tire several times in your adjustment, but I never saw you rotate it even once. Chains don't wear evenly, so there will be tight spots and loose spots as you turn your rear wheel, you need to rotate it to find those spots to make sure that it isn't too tight at some point in the rotation.

[@ridewithwarro]

very good points added here!

[@randyhorowitz201]

Just wondering, bicycle chains measure 12 inches from the center of a link to the center of a link. Using a ruler, if the chain is stretched 1/8th of an inch or more, time for a new chain. Would something like that, measuring chain stretch work for a motorcycle chain? Just wondering.

[@RantzBizGroup]

It will be interesting to watch the wear on the upper chain guide vs. the 14 t. sprocket...

[@ridewithwarro]

will be interesting to see if it works...lol

[@jamesboardman609]

I like the idea of marking the nuts, easier and cheaper tha going out and buying a fancy micrometer!👍

[@ridewithwarro]

yeah costs nothing to do and at least one has a good idea where hey ave been

[@maydaverave]

I would of gone up on the back instead. less torque on chain and more chain clearance over swingarm. One thing i've learned on from single speed bikes is larger sprocket combinations break less and last longer.

[@ridewithwarro]

at the moment it is only really a rough experiment with this bike to see if it helps it or not. my last rear sprocket change on a previous bike cost me $300 this time i am being a little bit more cautious rather than just run in and toss money away...lol

[@thesussexrider]

Another great instructional one - thanks!

[@ridewithwarro]

My pleasure! happy to hear you enjoyed it and i had a bit of fun making it too

[@barra650]

Down the track you'll have to put on a 15 and see what the top speed is then . And will you please buy a new chain , ha.

[@ridewithwarro]

i wouldn't bother running a 15t because its out of puff at the base of the slightest hill on the 14t. just not a propositionwhere i live. i think i'd find the bike highly frustration to ride. i think having 8 hp it hasto be used wisely

[@luvbgrass]

Does this bike have ABS front brake. If so, did changing to that smaller sprocket give the ABS any problems. Another channel said at top speed some times a light would come on for the ABS system. Thanks, Good video.

[@ridewithwarro]

it does trip it at time but once you stop turn off it re-sets. my thoughts would be considering how well it runs with the smaller sprocket and pulls hills much better i'd rather go that way as its a big improvement over the stock unit

[@luvbgrass]

I appreciate the reply. I think dropping the gearing will better suit my needs also. Thanks

[@ridewithwarro]

@@luvbgrass well its certainly underpowered in stock form and this mod actualy wakes it up. sp a big help i think and well worth the effort. plus its well under a $20 mod-can't loose really

[@johnpennell9998]

I notice that you worry about speedo variation when changing sprockets. Correct me if I'm wrong but on the nbc110 the speedo is driven off the front wheel so changing sprockets would not affect the speed .It would affect the revs though.

[@ridewithwarro]

clip is 3 years old and ive had 15 or 20 new bikes since then

[@findingneutral]

Awesome tutorial. Excellent idea on marking the chain adjuster nuts👍👏. The Monkey adjusters totally mess me up and I had no idea where I was with it. You got smart stuff goin on Mate. I will be totally using that technique next time. I've already bought my oring chain for the CT me ain't got yet. Its going on straight away so I will be the guinea pig to see how much engine lag it creates AND document the chain adjustment intervals. It was surprisingly cheap. A DID420V 112 link count oring chain with the master link included was only like $23 on Amazon. I've got a chain breaker to take it down to 108 total. Doing that and then doing the oil transfusion you taught me and installing me new magnetic oil sump plug before I even ride as well. That will be an interesting first oil change reveal to see whats on that plug tip.

[@ridewithwarro]

i think i should have made my own magnetic oil drain plug...lol still hasn't arrived and i'd like to drop the oil again due to somepretty hard runs lately

[@findingneutral]

@@ridewithwarro What the heck? Did you order the Gold Plug brand? Any tracking on your order?

[@ridewithwarro]

@@findingneutral not sure. there was but i am not sure what i did with it. ive been buying a bit of stuff and having trouble keeping track...lol maybe i will have to contact the wife for advise....yakes! scary thought there-folloed on by-whatare you buying now... plus fter last nights purchase i think she will be excited too...lol

[@findingneutral]

@@ridewithwarro No honey, its just something small I ordered a whiles back that I think got lost in the post... I didn't order anything else. 🤫

[@ridewithwarro]

@@findingneutral guess she is sic of that excuse. after yesterdays ride in the rough forrest county-and the coming up clips-two in total-the suspension cant handle the speed. you'll see...lol

[@jasontaylor8412]

Are you going to do a speed test, so as to see what rpm it does at 100ks as opposed to the old cog, i know it will be less but by how much iam wondering.

[@ridewithwarro]

i'd say i will give this bike a bit of a run and see what happens-nothing to lose there

[@mitchappleby9166]

Nice to know what to change the front sprocket. I've thought about getting a 15 tooth one to increase speed. I'll be watching to see how much of a difference this made in torque. Can you post where to get a sprocket that works?

[@ridewithwarro]

yeah i will when i get out and do a run and see how it works. busy fitting a pigguback ecu to the enfield but i will try this out but i have the other bike pulled down and its close to rain again...see what happens

[@SpyderTom1]

Great Job, how is the open road top end now. I watched the one after and you were rocking it.

[@ridewithwarro]

i thought it was quicker. i also thought it held speed better at 50 mph and was more constant on smaller inclines where before it drtopped a bit in speed. i think it will now push even better into head winds too

[@richardharmon5682]

That seems easy enough to do and without needing a factory service manual to tell you how to perform the task. Did you ever receive an owner's manual for the Hunter and if you did how much information was contained in the manual regarding maintenance and repair? That swing arm bolt looked interesting. It looks like it wouldn't be too hard to remove the swing arm bolt and to grease whatever Honda is using for bearings there. I suppose that what looks like a hole in the end of the swing arm shaft is not designed for greasing the bearings as was common on some motorcycles, like BMW airheads, back in the day.

[@ridewithwarro]

very basic in the factory manual and i guess that reflects in the price of the bike they make it for. plus which part of the world it's being sold in

[@Marbleheadjed]

Will that affect the calibration of the speedometer, or is that done by tire size ?

[@ridewithwarro]

not sure but its not run buy speedo drive to the front wheel so electinic. i plan to run a gps reading against it

[@Free_Ranger_CT110]

Instead of wood in the spokes why not press the rear brake.

[@ridewithwarro]

i just followed the honda dealers routine who services the honda postie bikes. in a way these are virtually the same bikes. he knows more than me and he said -this is what he does so i just did that! take into account too-this is a rear disc set up too. you just cant lock in the slide screw to the back drum either

[@blakegarritson1056]

Seems to me this is the same setup like the honda trail 110?

[@ridewithwarro]

not sure really-first of these type bikes i have ever had. mainly go for much bigger unit but now on this i thoroughly enjoy the experience

[@craiglagden3608]

Are you going give it a test?

[@ridewithwarro]

soon as i put the new piggyback ecu back in the enfield before it rains...lol

[@BriNaCa]

Smaller front sprocket. Watch for wear on the top of the swing arm. I would have put a larger rear sprocket instead.

[@ridewithwarro]

will do! this is more just a cheap experiment and see what happens. might work -might not and will go from there. all the best.thanks for the tip

[@nicholaskemp2246]

Please buy a new chain Warro!

[@ridewithwarro]

thats coming up shortly too

[@danforbes4513]

warro m8 you cant just wack in a new diff size front sprocket. it dont work like that you need a full kit aka front back and chain. i have a new sprocket and chain kit and wet clutch kit and new clutch cable ready to go in my suzuki ltz400 for its MOT.

[@ridewithwarro]

just thought i'd try it out...lol

[@gringoanon4550]

Yes you can.Depends on what you want to use the bike for, they are too low geared in Asia because they use them like cars.