2020 S1000RR vs 2017 S1000RR rider review

[@prashan_1hakuri]

The old one looks good in my opinion

[@zillboy]

Yep, totally agree.

[@prashan_1hakuri]

zillBoy the newer one looks awkward

[@oaksoldier45]

The new one "looks" Japanese- and not BMW IMO-

[@TinkleAssify]

Wish they kept that asymmetrical design. It's quite unique to BMW.

[@PynkPwny]

This was the biggest mistake the asymmetrical design was the best part of the bike.

[@Braselton21]

The "0ld"BMW S1000RR & Lambo Aventador will always be the definition of a Superbike/Supercar :D

[@sanskar6639]

Not lambo ...supra

[@hdahir545]

No lambo No supra It will be 458 italia

[@wanderer54796]

Each to their own 👍

[@tyoyusuf8501]

Yes supra with v12 cylinder engine

[@zodiac8786]

@@sanskar6639 supra is not a supercar it's a sportscar I love supras but stock they are slow

[@mrBIGego]

Nice to see some regular riders doing the review

[@christopheralonge7758]

The 2015/2016 model is still the best out of ALL of the generations of the S 1000 rr. Especially for. Reliability

[@MrGaz555]

and its the only years to have no big CAT on the exhaust, just nice little sport ones with very little restriction

[@gj8128]

I just bought a 2016!! In love

[@christopheralonge7758]

@@gj8128 bro I have owned a 2015 and two 2016 bmw s 1000rr. I should NEVER ever got rid of them. To this day this model is still the best all around sportbike. No contest . And I have owned all gixxers zx10s R1 s and Hondas. The 2016 s 1000rr dominates them all in HP and torque and comfort

[@YaHsServent]

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[@eddiet204]

I think it’s safe to say that 99% of the buyers of these bikes lack the skill set to be able to appreciate the differences between the two of these bikes. I own the 2017, mostly on the track and an occasional road ride, and I think it’s beyond the majority of riders.

[@NathanHolritz]

Props for mixing up the review game, and bringing in everyday folk to ride. Love the format! Cheers!

[@AntashDhiman]

The asymmetric design was what made it looked so good but now its gone ,so is its one of the best highlights

[@Tomygfender]

I can confirm that the cruise control doesn’t switch off when you lift your hand off. So it must of been a thing with the bike you tested. Oh by the way great review

[@grungysquash1]

As a 16 RR owner in Sydney great to see an Ausi comparison, surprised about the cruise control never heard of that in any other review? The bikes are awesome and lethal to licenses but brilliant on the track, fantastic on the Oxley while enjoyable on a normal cruise. Great video well done.

[@sunnyGsss]

Thanks guys! Im glad ive found fellow down to earth aussie’s that talk about bikes with a realistic no bullshit aproach. good onya’s keep up the good content!

[@rogase68]

I’ve had my M for a few months and done 3000 km. The cruise on your test bike is faulty. It works just fine. The clutch uptake is very fussy but it is something you get used to after a while. The bike is viby especially compared to my old cbr which was super smooth. I put a set of Evotech bar ends on which helped quite a bit. Dynamically the bike is outstanding and the level of grip is awesome. I’ve been riding in Victoria in cold conditions mainly but it still feels like it will just stick. Awesome machine.

[@raymadani270]

Hey mate, do you reckon it is worth trading my 2017 fireblade for the new s1000rr ? I mainly go to reefton for a ride

[@rogase68]

@@raymadani270 ha of course it is. I remember riding a s1000rr 17 and was blown away how much better is was than my 08 Blade, then this review shows you how much better the new model is again. When I got the new bike I cant tell you how different it felt. So light and agile. It just wants to dive into corners. The other thing I like about is its versatile. Pro race modes allow you to dial in what you want. I have one mode set up where I have no wheelie control so I can power wheelie out of cnrs yet you still have traction control to keep things safe mid cnr. Feeling tired just put it in rain mode and is nice and supple with a soft throttle and cruise control to boot. At the stiffer end of the spectrum in Race Pro it feels as sharp as my old race bikes. I put a full system on it and it is now as light or lighter than a 600. The top end of this bike is something else. Scary fast and not usable on the road. You need to be at Phillip Island

[@raymadani270]

@@rogase68 It is very kind of you to take time and answer my question. I'm visiting Doncaster BMW this weekend to see what are my option. Do you mind if I ask one more question? is the engine and mirror vibration too bad ? (compared to 2017-2019 cbr1000rr) Cheers

[@rogase68]

@@raymadani270 it does vibrate more than a CBR but bar ends made a big difference. Day to day its okay as it only gets higher above 9000 rpm and when you start getting up that high vibration is the last think you are really thinking about!!

[@raymadani270]

@@rogase68 well said mate at that rev range, life is already on the line

[@robtno1]

The 19/2020 is night and day far more precise on throttle it’s lethal but fun! To me the bike looks unfinished it needs a belly pan and the swing up looks like not much design went into it. It’s still a good looking bike but the riding position is far different to the older version ! Personally I found the 15/16’a where the best so comfy you could tour on it ! I have one on order but now the v2 has come out I’m considering that, only issue is how reliable will the Ducati be I’ve heard some stories but I guess every brand has issues .

[@farshidchinwalla3718]

Hi guys I'm from Mumbai - India.... great review..... However iv had a good test ride experience on the 2020 s1000rr M sport version and especially the cruise control... Infact after setting it to the desired speed iv left the throttle bar and it went on at the same set speed.... Probably some glitch in the software of the Motorcycle you'll had.... Another feature was the cruise control memory where firing the cruise control mode of you increase the speed and let go of the throttle it comes back to the cruise control speed that it was originally set at... So a really great feature... Once again good review and safe riding

[@rogase68]

Stumbled across your channel. Fun review with lots of opinions. Good work

[@raffez2270]

the cruise control is designed like that for safety reasons. its so you are only holding the bar not twisting and gripping for long periods.

[@samh3467]

I test rode the M version a few weeks back and never had that problem with the cruise control shutting off when removing my hand off the throttle. Just wish they would hurry up and deliver mine 10 months and counting!!!!

[@6tdegrees]

Sam H thank god! I was hoping that wasn’t the case otherwise why would be point of having it in the first place.

[@q801979]

My 2020 dose not have this issue

[@myworldnews7648]

Mix of Ducati and honda . Old pretty awesome

[@jeanpauljansen7329]

Have ridden the old 2017 in same configuration and new 2020 in M and normal version with HP wheels only the M with carbon wheels make a difference. Specifically regarding the steering. It is way more light. Powerwise the old with a full akra is as fast as the new one. Also in the midrange when mapped. But indeed standard vs standard the 2020 has more midrange grunt. Also some 500 rpm more on the top end. Very negative re the 2020 is that it has a lot more vibrations and the engine makes more noise. Still in my opinion the old one looks more special.

[@brettbubbles3732]

Hi, I had the 2012 model and loved it. the indicators did turn off after 10 sec. question is do i get a 2020 or 2018? as my next bike.

[@trevorgroeneveld1355]

I’ve seen on a bmw letterhead a dealership memo explaining the delay in deliveries of the 2020 is due to a halt in production due to a third party supplied component issue. I guess at some stage we will find out more. Looks like they’ll be back on track in a few months time and start clearing the backlog. There’s still issues with the US delivered bikes due to emission driven detuning of the bike in the low range rpm. My plan is to wait until the 2nd gen bike comes out and they’ve sorted the gremlins out of it. I figure that’s 12 months away. Hopefully not that long.

[@tysoncott7402]

Great review guys & gals, its nice to see normal folks doing these type of tests & not some mark marquez sized fella. With that said i will take the older gen S1000RR anyday over the new gen, the looks just dont do it for me on the 2020

[@1Quick6]

Awesome vid as always guys keep up the good work

[@vince2037]

"Old is gold" I love old look😍😍😘

[@TheShahir362]

Awesom. This is not a review, this is Reviews. One video for a lot

[@philroy818]

Love my 2016 RR - love it marry it. Brilliant bike

[@raymadani270]

Don't fall for the badge, I regret selling my CBR1000rr 2017 and purchasing a 2020 S1000RR race edition. The bike is jerky in the first gear, shitty clutch with no gradual friction range, gets super hot at every traffic light, turning radius is too large, seat height is not what you think, won't start before you try it a few times (software issue), paint varnish is too thin so it needs further treatment if you don't want scratches, the engine is vibrating like shit (numb hands after a couple of hours is guaranteed), mirrors are useless duo the bike vibration, bulky and wide fuel tank, navigation app sucks (always lagging so good luck finding your exact turn), the front brake has a savage bite KZbin is full of crap which results in losing the hard-earned money . be careful, please It is only a good bike for the track and not for commuting or weekend joyride PLUS, YOU DON'T GET TO RIDE IT BEFORE YOU PAY IT IN FULL

[@ayowser01]

Sweet sweet music to a Honda afficionado's ears 😊

[@Aussie445]

Awesome video guys, highly entertaining and informative!

[@AutoManuals]

Love the channel.. Love the test/review. Subbed, Liked and shared on our social media.

[@badass1g]

The way she was rolling her helmet around on the tank of the 2020 omg man 😤 teach that girl some respect

[@hfr8343]

Her gloves were between the tank and her helmet

[@simotofoto]

The old ones do have self canceling indicators they just take an age to cancel

[@anw7669]

Even tho it's old the 1st gen s1000rr will always be my favourite sbk

[@jamesSmith-bn3ud]

Older one the best looking and I think it's a better bike ... granted nee one has all the tech and a.tft screen which youl never look at whilst riding I might add and also ohhhh I looks like a ducati... so its the older one for me .

[@suspensefulness]

man i really gotta chance to grab either a 2016 s1000rr or 2020 s1000rr ,i dont know which way to go😩

[@rzu7120]

They've screwed up the tuning on the U.S. version of the bike, giving it a big flat spot in power in the mid-range in the lower gears.

[@6tdegrees]

R Zu yeah I heard about that! What gives? Is it due to emissions or?

[@rzu7120]

@@6tdegrees I don't know, but I saw a KZbin video where they reflash the bike, and it gains up to 40 hp(!) mid-range power.

[@6tdegrees]

That’s crazy!! 40hp difference 🤦‍♂️

[@BlueRage]

To keep the decibels below 97 in the lower gears. Only way to get the bike into the US market.

[@ThamjithThaha]

old is gold

[@karmabrothercat]

Great review guys. Thanks for sharing.

[@carlous8186]

What’s that at 0:14 ? Is it a tank gear indicator?

[@staticage]

2017 does have self cancelling indicators...

[@aao331]

Yes it does have them. Mine self cancels them after about 250m.

[@Luckky-13]

2020 AMAZING! MY DREAM BIKE!

[@bhargabdhali]

Same

[@DragosNicolaeRadoi]

Regarding the cruise control, I have the 2020 M model and it stays on when I take my right hand off the handle bar.

[@EZLANI]

Thank you for a great review! Greetings from cold Sweden!

[@Largoww]

Great vid guys! Funny and informative. Being a tall guy myself, can you tell me how tall Adam is? Thanks!

[@6tdegrees]

I believe Adam is 6 foot 2

[@6tdegrees]

Sorry 6.4

[@Largoww]

Thanks !

[@ivymash940]

Which version of BMW is faster?

[@gw4717]

I'd take my 2020 zx10r any day of the week such a great bike

[@stevealperstein8836]

I have the 2019 M, the cruise control doesn't require one to keep one's right hand on the bar, not sure why your bike seemed to require it.

[@andreaswoehlms2783]

I am from Germany..... here we say..... vielen Dank für den geilen Vergleich.

[@6tdegrees]

Andreas Woehlms Vielen Dank 😊

[@Bredaxe]

Those Hayes brakes are still pretty good. I think they're a little more forgiving than the Brembo badged brakes.

[@jhongadlaon906]

great job guys... entertaining and informative...

[@mahamza86]

Just seeing that intro made me subscribe to your channel. Good job.

[@sheslop888]

Had that 2020 been through it's first service? How do the seat heights compare? The 2020 looked lower to me. As far as looks go, I think the 2017 looked better, but I think that red on the 2020 is not the best colour scheme.

[@92RB20Monster]

Did you not pay attention? They did a full side by side measurement comparison,the 2020 has a slightly higher seat.

[@drewmartinez2578]

Old model looks like a shark new model looks like a lady bug you pick

[@ThrottleJunkie31415]

I have the 2017 MY. If the 2020 MY cruise control requires constant pressure on the throttle then pass...I travel 20 miles each way on freeways to get to the twisties hands free CRUISING! Nuff said!

[@shouldicallyoumista1167]

This was a fkn awesome video! How come u guys have so few subs?

[@Dranreb865]

Because they're corny

[@wallacemiranda373]

Old is gold 🥇

[@labmalin9786]

My Dream BMW s1000rr 2018❤️❤️

[@aeror115]

Cool test guys! I like the new design 🏁 Cheers

[@mohammadnadeemasifmohammad399]

New model BMW S1000RR 2020 best design and good looking bike

[@Paledaddy]

Did it have any of the limits on the ECU? Like the ones all the ppl in the states complained about?

[@6tdegrees]

Pipes beards & guns You mean power restrictions?

[@Paledaddy]

6Tdegrees yes sir!

[@6tdegrees]

Pipes beards & guns in the US they do have a heavy restriction placed in the ECU mapping, however you can get the restriction removed and re-mapped. Although I’m not sure if by doing so it will void the warranty.

[@Paledaddy]

6Tdegrees very good question, you would think the original programming would not void any warranty, only the emission/sound requirement for the US?!

[@King88_8]

How do you know its "so much lighter" by just sitting on it??😮

[@6tdegrees]

Weight distribution plus we all got to ride the new and old s1000rr

[@King88_8]

​@@6tdegrees yeah that's a given but when she simply sat on it for the first time she said so.... 7:00

[@macstheking]

Was that a bud light the camera man pounded before riding?!

[@AlexRamirez-gs1de]

Red bull

[@6tdegrees]

Maybe haha

[@MrPninja]

That was awesome, I just wish the M version I ordered would hurry up, but I’ve been told by dealership not until February next year, though I ordered it back in May

[@6tdegrees]

MrPninja wwwwwhat!! That’s crazy!

[@MrPninja]

6Tdegrees I know basically I’m buying a year old model for 33grand not happy

[@samh3467]

I’ve been waiting 10 months so far but should be getting my M version in November but I’m not holding my breath as I’ve been let down 3 time already

[@MrPninja]

Sam H it’s bullshit

[@TSRR-zs6pf]

I put my deposit down in March and I've been told December or January. I knew I wouldn't get the 1st bike, but thought I would have it by now. Just had to do another service and new back tyre on my current bike. Expenses that I thought I wouldn't have by now.

[@maksummohammed6672]

Put the TFT display on the 2017 S1000RR and i will be ok with it.

[@elmapaxe]

this is like watching the grown up version of kids next door

[@abitofmymind]

2014 hp4 still number 1. Who wants smooth? I want angry

[@amiruddinirfan789]

for me the best design is 2013 bike

[@jvmachine1466]

Beautiful video BMW double RR BMW is the best

[@OMAR-gl9cp]

I love those bike wow bmw s1000rr world class motorcycle

[@nadeem1689]

Awesome review guys 👏👏👏

[@Kurlach]

Love my M Sport. You also get the BMW racing colours and rider pro modes. As for the clutch, you get used to it. I have the M Sport levers and it helps a lot. Also never had a single problem with the cruise control, mine doesn’t do that 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@6tdegrees]

Kurlach just keep an eye on it 😉

[@simotofoto]

Hi you get the rider pro modes on the Sport also :)

[@NoHope_]

its s one thousand double r not s thousand double r

[@6tdegrees]

CJR 🥱😴

[@alafsialpha1738]

Wao beautiful bike bmw Is very expensive in malaysia.

[@jamiep2318]

Brilliant video. I want them both...

[@somborn]

Result: 2017 amazing. 2020 super duper amazing.

[@StormCentre88]

2005 Turbo Busa (in QLD now) still better than the BMW everywhere but the track.

[@mohammadnadeemasifmohammad399]

BMW S1000RR 2020 best design

[@petermoygannon698]

I just brought a second hand 18 model and think it looks better...and I really don't think it will make allot of difference considering the speed limit in Australia is 110 ..so I'll win if my licence is worth nothing to me ..or if you have no points on your license. the winner is the biggest wrist.

[@davidelizabeth4933]

Nice to get the fairer gender's input.👍 Much love from Northern California.

[@mohammadnadeemasifmohammad399]

BMW S1000RR 2020 Original silencer is best sound but other so bad design and sound

[@Kneedragon1962]

Subscription added. That's one of my favourite pieces of road in the world.... Go up and down there a bit for high speed handling and cornering, then ride up the hill to the top, to test gradually tighter & steeper stuff. Then turn around and go back down, to test closed throttle and tightening radius and downhill off camber and... All that takes maybe an hour, but by the end, you will know most of what there is to know about the way that bike handles. Throw in a track day, let's say Qld Raceway or Morgan Pk would be better, and you have really done a test. This one is also very nice... www.google.com/maps/dir/-27.1944627,152.8260692/-26.7583428,152.852757/Montville/@-26.9808232,152.6144229,10.5z/data=!4m10!4m9!1m0!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x6b9381071bd89629:0x502a35af3deabf0!2m2!1d152.883333!2d-26.683333!3e0?hl=en

[@scandimc]

19:34 I live in norway lol

[@6tdegrees]

Scandi MC how cold does it get?!

[@scandimc]

6Tdegrees In Oslo -25c and some places -45c😂

[@6tdegrees]

No thanks hahah -1c is too much for me 😂

[@sickofalldabscensorship721]

I'm just glad that they finally decided to go with symmetrical headlights. Looks so much better but that's about the only thing that looks better.

[@DeruginizCLS]

Old one sounds soo much better..

[@Dranreb865]

The other one should be riding a cruiser or an adv

[@jeevanmotors4275]

I love the New Version It's More Exotic 👌👌👌👌👌

[@doctorhonda111]

Why do u guys have British accents?

[@6tdegrees]

doctorhonda111 😂 Australian not British.

[@sampatsudesh5680]

Old one is better for me and can i win one pls .

[@sadniqqa]

Where are the subs man?!

[@6tdegrees]

Arswole Schwarzdogger I know right! Hopefully our channel really kicks off with subscribers this year... we are so close to hitting 10k subs.

[@robbyc4417]

Bmw should pay you guys a commission, y’all just sold a bike. Going to look tomorrow 😂

[@theronstopable]

You act like bmw is the only one that comes with a quick shift from factory that’s a little snobby

[@raymadani270]

Ozzy mates 😎😎😎

[@TSRR-zs6pf]

Your video makes me sad😥😥 Still sitting on my deposit. When will the production delays end? Pretty embarrassing for BMW. Here is a great new bike, can't buy it.

[@DeruginizCLS]

U ever get ur bike?

[@madmaxfury6332]

Old one

[@Jamesz_hunt]

-40hp if u get what I mean

[@TheChewbaca69]

Decent review. I reckon if the big girl lost 30kilo she go another 40km through the corners.

[@samuellaurent6139]

I wld go to da Shark... 👹😈

[@jeanpauljansen7329]

Old one much better looking

[@HeinzLammerding08]

Nice warm sun out there lucky ausies lol

[@infinitycl]

All s1000rrs self cancel, my 2014 RR even does it

[@6tdegrees]

xKtF well there you go haha Bec didn’t know her bike self cancelled...

[@ur2slob724]

My 2015 doesn’t

[@infinitycl]

@@ur2slob724 It does, its after a certain distance or time, its set in the BMW software.

[@ur2slob724]

xKtF The turn indicators are z cancelled automatically after the defined time and dis- tance. The defined time and dis- tance can be set by an author- ised BMW Motorrad dealer. Wow your right

[@Fearless154]

I own the 2014 model as well and i really don't how it works. Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't. It,'s pretty unreliable and useless if you ask me.

[@vadimdon]

RR M and still stock ugly exhaust. Nice try bmw

[@gw4717]

Yea all I year with my zx10r cold start is a beautiful sexy sound 😋