2021 Ford Mustang Mach-E First Impressions; Redesigned Tesla Model S | Talking Cars

[@manthony225]

Good to know the Bolt is one of the more reliable vehicles CR has tested. My local Chevy dealer has new 2021 base models for $26k.

[@ludovicspeaks]

What the heck is the guy talking about...yes, if you don’t have a way to plug in teh car EVs are not yet for you,. But if you can plug in 230 miles is more than enough. How far is the guy driving every day?

[@ys1511]

In my opinion Tesla becoming less desirable with that steering wheel and removing physical control

[@markjames2338]

I have the plaid X on order because of the updates.

[@ERPRocks]

To comment on some items in your Mach-E segment: 1. The price you cite includes the $1,100 delivery charge. I've noticed that when you cite the price of other EVs you often do so excluding that charge which leads to the incorrect impression that there is a $2,000+ price difference between comparable models. 2. If a Cayenne can be a Porsche, a Mach-E can be a Mustang. This argument was settled over 20 years ago. 3. There is not just a 110v charger in the trunk, but every Mach-E comes with a 220v charger as well. 4. The range estimate in the car is much more sophisticated than what you might be used to with other EVs. It takes into account the actual driving history and will dynamically recalculates the estimated range. So, if you have a car that is handed to a bunch of automotive journalists. who are constantly doing a series of 0-60 and quarter mile speed tests the system will estimate a far lower range than would be expected under real-road conditions. This has been observed by several reviewers who took the car out on the road and were surprised to find the range estimated by the car increase with the more normal driving conditions. 5. Your sole reliance on EPA range is too simplistic to be useful and plays into Tesla's manipulation of the numbers. While the Mach-E does have a lower range estimate using the EPA standard, it has a far greater range than the Model Y using the WLTP standard that they use in Europe. From real-world reports, the EPA estimate vastly overestimate the actual range of the Model Y, while the early hands-on reviews indicate that the Model Y's range is much closer to the EPA estimates.

[@deanmcmanis9398]

I remember not too long ago when Ford was justifying the 17 mile of EV range in it's plug in hybrids by saying that the average American commute was 15 miles a day. I have to wonder how 200 miles is not enough today? But you answered my question when you said that you did not charge it at all. Which is a sign that you have obviously never owned an electric car before. Admittedly, the Mach-E's 120V charging is a meager 3 miles an hour. But if you just come home and plug it in overnight, you get 30 miles per day. Which should be more than enough for your average commute. And adding a $400, 240V charger adds 20+ miles an hour.

[@profkeenan]

When I use 110 (A 'regular' plug) I get 4 miles every hour. That's 50 miles overnight. So, if that's what you drive in a day, then it's more than enough. One great thing of the Tesla is the Supercharger network. They did it right. When I use non-tesla charging stations it is like your local library's first attempt at an app...you appreciate the effort but it kinda sucks.

[@xienon]

How do I wash the windshield without a stalk? I have look away from the road and use the touchscreen to spray the windshield?!

[@profkeenan]

Voice

[@markplott4820]

there is a Button on the Driving YOKE to activate Wipers, TESLA uses DeepScale AI to detect Rain to Automatically DETECT rain and Activate wipers.

[@Kylehoulihan]

210 in cold weather is fine for me my golf tsi gets about 300 somthing on a tank so 210 is wayyyy better than the 80 or so miles evs were getting a few years ago on a good day.

[@mcrkon]

Exactly, which ICE car gets over 300 miles?

[@jimmelay71]

For all of Tesla's greatness they seem to sometimes change things for no apparent "good" reason.

[@rjmb4687]

People hate change. "If it works why change?" Look apple

[@jimmelay71]

@@rjmb4687 Change is good. Stupid changes like rectangular steering wheels, gullwing doors and flawed/forced autonomous driving is not.

[@davidmccarthy6061]

For an organization that touts safety, suddenly you want us driving 6 or more hours without a break?? Long road trips are pretty rare and even then all you need are faster charge rates and then you're still fine with 300 miles max. I DON'T want the weight and expense of a battery pack capacity I'll never use. I understand that CR is new to EV's and hasn't lived with them other than some test driving but once you actually live with one day to day in family life you'll understand range isn't everything. You can leave every morning with a full "tank" for the average 30 miles a day a normal person drives, which can be replaced overnight on 110v power. When was the last time you ran out of gasoline? Right now you must have access to charging. 1000 miles of battery range won't help you if you have on-street parking and can't charge anywhere.

[@tompaull3214]

Great show as always gang! I'm looking forward to test drive a Mach-E.

[@MjekuMati]

I’ve started looking forward to these on Friday afternoons after work!

[@PaulHo]

The people who are wary of charging their batteries are the same as the people who don't trust the COVID vaccines. So much research and development went into them both, and so much progress had been made. It's not Duracells that you test with your tongue or baking soda remedies. Give the scientists and engineers some credit.

[@mikus4242]

I think the gold standard on 3rd generation electric vehicles should be: 300 mile range and > 150 Kw DC fast charging rate.

[@kmf2153]

Yes an EPA range of 300/150 DC would be what I would want for a car that I planned to use for traveling. But batteries are heavy and expensive, so if I planned to use the car only for regional commuter use, grocery runs, and travel under 100 miles one way, I could choose an EV such as the bolt or standard range Mach E . Cheaper, lighter and more efficient than a dedicated long range car. I have owned a 2020 Chevy Bolt for one year now, and have put 9500 miles on it. Charge it in the garage w/240 volt 32 amp outlet. I have only used a commercial charger twice in that time frame. So in my case usage, I don’t need the expensive long range battery pack. And Bolts are cheap...... As with any car, one should only purchase what one needs....there is a real learning curve to owning an EV, and it easy to tell on this channel who knows what they are talking about in regards to operating an EV, and who doesn’t.

[@toddgilliland9692]

If you have the dough. new Model S will go 510 miles or 810 km. per charge.

[@mattmcfly2165]

Cool, what does yours get Mike? I know my wife can drive around town all day and a car will come home and get charged and less than 3 hours. If you want a long road trip rent a car.

[@millefune]

In the past three years, I've driven more than a total of 50 miles in a day like four times. What's this "range anxiety" people speak of?

[@reximperatur1146]

You’re right. And this is just like suburbanites with home parking/driveway and access to an electric outlet complaining about lack of charging stations clots their house. Guess what, you don’t need them if you have home charging.

[@sigor2011]

I dunno. Got family with base 2019 leaf and no issues with a range. Has 170 miles and over several years never ran out and only charges on 120v. 200 ish miles of range is perfectly sufficient for a city car. Maybe it is too low in Texas? Can't comment on that.

[@Curtish8892H]

Thank you! Nice to hear someone say “we will wait to pass judgement after driving the vehicle” Others have been condemning a vehicle with something out of the norm as wrong, stupid and unnecessary.

[@AnalogueKid2112]

This was a fantastic show, thanks guys.

[@SwarmAM]

My apartment complex does not offer any electric hookups! Hope they're still making hybrids!

[@mikeceli]

I bought a 1970 Mustang mach 1 in 1972. Mustang mach e IMO, is a mach 1 for the 21ST Century! I am glad I kept my Ford stock!

[@Abqmexi]

Most people don’t even drive more than 20 miles a day... 400 miles is not enough range is outdated thinking. Even for long range trips. Most people will take breaks after a few hours to gas up. If charging is quick then it won’t matter.

[@nickolastiguan]

Looking forward to your ID4 first impression, and full test.

[@markplott4820]

iD4 is DELAYED ...........software issues .........LOL.

[@TennesseeFanatic1]

You guys are not living in the real world. How many EVs have a 300 mile range that aren't named Tesla? You make it sound like the Mach-E is somehow not in the normal EV range.

[@gondorian1006]

Tesla real world range doesn't match the EPA rating, especially in the cold as you mentioned. Also the relatively low range is mitigated somewhat if you start every day will a full charge.

[@markplott4820]

IF, you Fully Charge a TESLA overnight , and the use PRE Departure heating & battery Optomization your Range in WINTER will be better, you can set Depature time with the TESLA app.

[@maryellenseay9900]

Edmunds agrees.

[@johngoreham8352]

(On Mach-E topic) Spot on. I was happy to hear how closely my own comparison from January was to the CR one. I think we drive the same media vehicle. Y wins on living electric and initial acceleration. Mach-E owns the ride comfort and infotainment.

[@sdo7875]

GM - We are going all electric by 2035! Next day, Cadillac - Here's the blackwing with a new V8!

[@MechayaAlta]

How come the CR experts never comment or respond on this platform?

[@pdlynch4330]

Busy being right about everything, including not recommending cars because the vents are too low, or they can't figure out the volume on the steering wheel, or are repeated confused by infotainment systems that kids use easily... In addition, they often recommend cars that turn out to be disasters, overlooking years of reliability for that new car smell...

[@anthonyc8499]

Ryan + CR team, did you actually go for a drive in the Mach-E and find out if the 200 mile stated range was accurate, optimistic, or pessimistic? Or are you just reporting on what the guess-o-meter said and you never bothered to verify?

[@davidm5707]

Most automatic transmissions do guess what gear you should be in, and well. But what if you want to be in reverse? I guess you shouldn't be in reverse unless the full self-driving mode wants you to be. And, after paying $10,000 for it, you might as well use it every minute you can to recoup your "investment"...

[@kuwait85]

I love the f1 style controller, great insight once again

[@scriller8]

Hey love the show. I notice there's some dialogue cut out to fit the 30 minute limit. My take, people wouldn't mind going over. Like if you agree!

[@nickolastiguan]

Comment section prediction. Tesla fanboys: CR you are such dinosaurs. Ryan is looking good.

[@pdlynch4330]

Can't wrap my head around Ford calling it a Mustang. Then I remembered Ford has a rough time coming up with new names, right Taurus?

[@roguedogx]

0:48 me internally: "don't go in to a rant about the steering wheel, or the turn signals. don't go in to a rant about the steering wheel, or the turn signals. don't go in to a rant about the steering wheel, or the turn signals."

[@roguedogx]

04:50 also that issue is on the "higher quality" Model S. if that screen was only designed to last 5-6 years, does that mean the model 3/y is also supposed to last that long too? or, dare I ask, maybe an even shorter time?

[@ymcpa73]

@@roguedogx they are using different chips now that have longer read write cycles. This is an issue with how these memory chips work. It not just a tesla issue. All cars will have this issue. The drives will eventually fail and will need to be replaced. Tesla used the chips that were available to them is sufficient quantities at a reasonable at the time. You make it sound like this is an issue of designed obsolescence. Electric drivetrains are very reliable and should easily outlast ice cars since there are less moving parts. The other electric components are an issue but it is also an issue in ice cars since all cars have incorporated a lot of electronic parts and computers.

[@dongorth9102]

On the Mustang...if a lot of people has driven the car first thing is to Reset Driver History..You start fresh with the car..Much better mileage...

[@ultradaves]

A bit heavier than normal vehicles? A typical BEV vehicle has a powertrain that weighs 1200 - 1500 lbs, depending on the size of the battery pack. The equivalent gas powertrain weighs around 350 lbs. A simple way of looking at it, gas version weighs X, BEV version will weigh 1,000 lbs more typically. It's significant, BEVs are at least 20% heavier than the gas equivalent (not talking diesel)

[@AnalogueKid2112]

Wait...Tesla will try to *GUESS* which direction you want to go 🤣🤣🤣 ROFL Now I know they’ve lost it! This is inventing a ridiculous solution for a problem that does not exist

[@gene978]

DOes this Mache come in Standard Stick? ;)

[@LlyleHunter]

It has electric motors. Doubtful that it has a transmission at all

[@timaustin2000]

"These electric cars don't have enough range,..." Oh do one. I have an EV that does 220 summer and between 160-180 winter. IT'S PLENTY. That's the kind of gas-car bias that will end up colouring every EV review or opinion you make. Jesus. You lose me right there.

[@poseidon129266]

Ditto. And it's no big deal stopping for some charge the few times a year you drive more than that in a single trip. Gas drivers spend 10x more time at the gas pump than electric cars spend at a charger.

[@Kermit26297]

Also, manufacturing car batteries is very carbon intensive (i.e. polluting). So you should only get an electric vehicle with as much battery as you would generally need. If your daily commute is, say, 50 miles, it’s not good for the environment to drive a car that has a 400 mile range.

[@amigatommy7]

Tesla still dropping price by 10k per car in Chine due to Nio?

[@Luciferisking512]

I love this almost all EV episode. More please

[@hereigoagain5050]

Tesla is merely a way for Musk to earn enough money to build a rocket so he can go home to Mars. Poor Martian crashed on earth during a joy ride.

[@Peter-oh3pm]

You all mist a point. You never need to turn the steering yoke more than about 45 degrees left or right. If your speed is low, wheels turn more. If your speed is high, the wheels turn less.

[@jimmelay71]

I'm not sure what kind of car you are driving but see if that is true the next time you are pulling out of a parking spot.

[@maryellenseay9900]

1. Ryan's claim: Tesla doing a good job delivering on the range they promise. Really? Edmunds real world testing says otherwise. The fact is Tesla overpromises on mileage range but in the real world underdelivers. 2. You jumped ahead on the "range stuff" anxious to show your dislike of the MME range. Edmunds real world testing shows Ford under-promises on range and over delivers when compared to the Y. 3. The MME does not have that "instance burst of power"? "Not as quick as I thought it would be." Really? In an apples to apples comparison, the MME and the Y are about the same 0-60. and perhaps we should remind consumers that the MME GT performance is coming out at 0-60 in 3.5 sec. Otherwise, good job presenting. I like the format. Nice work.

[@ymcpa73]

1) The range is set by the EPA, not Tesla. I'm curious how Edmund's conducted the test. The only true way to compare is to drive both cars at the same time so that the speed, route, and weather are the same. The one video I saw that compared a bunch of EVs driving through England showed all the EV underperformed the EPA estimate. The Ford wasn't a part of that test. 3) Y standard is 5.3sec, the long range 4.2 sec, and performance 3.5 sec. Mach-E RWD std range 5.8 sec, RWD ext range 6.1 sec, AWD std range 5.2 sec, AWD ext range 4.8. That is for the premium model. So only the model Y standard is comparable. The long range model is faster by a good amount. The GT performance will compete but it starts at $61k while the model y performance is 52k

[@maryellenseay9900]

@@ymcpa73 , Thank you for the good argument. --See Edmunds: 2021 Ford Mustang Mach-E vs. 2020 Tesla Model Y: Goggle it, easy to find. Edmunds did its own real world testing.

[@film50565]

Rear-wheel bias and the ability to have fun kicking out the Mach-E in corners is not my idea of optimal for an AWD winter vehicle.

[@UESide]

Did the Mach e chassis feel like it was ready for another 100 horsepower, the GT? Hopefully it brings more guts to challenge Tesla

[@enoughofthis]

Ok, sorry. You guys are quite fair in your assessment.

[@JamesPhieffer]

You guys are putting an awful lot of faith in Tesla getting it right. And considering how much you hit vehicles for poor (non-intuitive/overly complicated) infotainment, I have a hard time understanding why. Also, that steering wheel is potentially dangerous, both in causing, or as a result of, an accident.

[@toddgilliland9692]

Is there a gear selector in an EV? I thought they are direct ( one Speed) drive from motor to wheels. No gears anywhere. The new steering wheel has "force" buttons in the cross member at the top of the yolk. One button, left and right, can control multiple functions that used to use stalks....headlites, turn signals, auto pilot, etc.

[@ultradaves]

Tesla build quality has been an issue since inception, would be nice if you could address with the Ford. What is the build quality like? Panel gaps, paint quality, solidity, interior noise levels?

[@ERPRocks]

Why do you keep buying into the Tesla propaganda? They have been promising self-driving for six years and it is still not real. So, to say they are implementing this new steering wheel for the future, you just propagate the miss information. Also, Tesla routinely fails to deliver on their EPA range estimates. You do all of your members a disservice by referencing these unreliable estimates, or worse, use them as a basis for comparison between vendors some of whom perform far better. You seem to be dazzled by the methodological rigor of the EPA tests to the point where you disregard their reliability or validity.

[@sssssneaker]

It's not an EV SUV. It's an EV HATCHBACK

[@markplott4820]

its a COMPLIANCE Clown Car

[@bozzo651]

If you want to check out the range test of the Mach E vs the Tesla Y you will find that Tesla exaggerates their range and Ford downplays true range per Edmunds. The Mach E got about 305 miles on a charge. Why doesn't CR own this vehicle by now and have put out an in depth review by now?

[@jrmt6]

9:36 - is the badge already falling apart on a new car?

[@JasonEDragon]

Ford and GM are accelerating their EV plans because they see Tesla and what the automakers in Europe are being forced to do and they worry that they may become the next Blackberry - where a day comes soon when suddenly no one will want to buy their products. And that date might be closer to 2025 than 2035. GM's EV experience may go back 20 years but it was a very weak effort that did little to prepare them to surge EV production. Their factories aren't ready. Their dealers aren't ready. Their fleet EV mileage is too small to learn much from. All of the big 3 and the Japanese automakers have a lot of work to do and not much time.

[@Charles_Mulberry_7977]

Great info. Thanks. Where is Gabe!?

[@JDMHaze]

If any company had done this they would be called cheap but of course Tesla gets the pass... They have a problematic touchscreen as it is and now they're going to shove all the shifter and driver controls there? Smart It's like they hate their customers. Sorry that's a dealbreaker for sure For anyone that is a goods driver or has common sense at all

[@markplott4820]

the 2021 MCU is Future Proof, has more memory and Ability to EXPAND memory. the NEW MCU is also the most POWERFUL 10 T FLOPS processing power, like a 5th GEN Game Console.

[@reximperatur1146]

They still have a lot of functions available on the steering yoke plus voice command.

[@davidm5707]

Can't wait to test drive a Stellantis! 🤪

[@Justacogg]

That’s why I bought a brand new Dodge Challenger Scatpack and stored away in the back of my garage. Once my Magnum dies altogether then I’ll drive the Challenger. I wanted to get one now before it ended up on a Peugeot platform!!! 🤢

[@ibretus]

Gm won't make its 2025 production forecast because they don't seem to have a battery procurement plan.

[@LlyleHunter]

They have a contract with Panasonic to use new tech solid state batteries to start.

[@chuckwalla2967]

It's the Knight Rider inspired steering wheel.

[@johnnyv5995]

C'Mon Guys! The steering wheel is just a marketing ploy. Do you actually believe NHTSA would allow it??

[@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647]

Actually, the car was named after the planes that were flown in WW 2

[@LlyleHunter]

I think by the third generation of mainstream manufactured EV vehicles they’ll have around 700 miles of range and be comparable to the range of a diesel vehicle with a 25 gallon fuel tank about fifteen years from now.

[@nroose]

Seems like if you are going to keep saying that the Tesla tires wear out faster, you are going to have to actually present data rather than just the reasons.

[@losdesmayosdeNestor]

Ryan is back

[@robertshunter]

Ford versus General Motors... Which is the global automaker?

[@robertshunter]

Tesla... The cars for people who hate cars. 😒

[@artbw3413]

After 5 yrs, that 210 range will drop by 50%. I prefer the RAV4 prime for now, no range anxiety.

[@jamessheufelt1730]

What ev did you own that lost that much? My wife’s Focus EV is 4 years old and there’s been no discernible drop in range.

[@altisamuels8694]

You guys seem to talk about Tesla every day,

[@edmundyee3388]

Already predicted in Knight Rider. KITT had a similar steering wheel. :)

[@cmdrdarwin3682]

Here in my part of Texas, there are zero charging stations within 50 miles & I could never drive one of these electric cars out of state without stopping to recharge. That’s a huge fail.

[@reximperatur1146]

Do you have a driveway with access to at least an electrical outlet? If so, you don’t need any charging stations within 100 miles of your house in any direction, especially if that outlet is a 240 volt. A long range Model 3 has 353 mile EPA range. Only apartment dwellers with no access to off-street parking need worry about charging stations. Nobody with access to home charging is going out of their way to use public chargers when they can just plug in at home at the end of the evening and wake up to a full battery in the morning.

[@kurthunter5206]

Way back in the 50's or 60's (before you guys were born) Chrysler Corp had retangular steering wheels.

[@markplott4820]

CR - Ford Engineering has DECADES to go before it can catch TESLA. in TESLA Track mode you can vary the Bias of the REAR motor vs the FRONT motor with AWD. this make DRIFTING a TESLA possible.

[@dvran]

How much are tax credits? That would give a huge advantage to Ford/GM over Tesla

[@db4z09]

$7,500 for Ford. GM and Tesla already used up their federal tax credits. Some states have additional credits but some have price caps.

[@majorhavok9423]

This is cool. We need to put the motor companies in place. Tesla innovative! And puts car companies to shame.

[@barryw9473]

Nobody needs a car with 400 miles of range for routine driving for most of the year. The average daily mileage is 29 miles. Sure, it is nice to have, just like a pickup bed is nice to have, but as with pickups that get used once a year (if that) for actual hauling, 400 miles of range on a charge is just not needed for regular use. And all new EVs can DCFC now so there is no need to have much more than 200 miles of range. CR needs to think about use case (as they do for almost every other product it reviews) and stop being silly.

[@UESide]

The steering wheel on the model s is so dumb. They only did it for media attention which you all have been manipulated by. Using one makes no sense. Also, Tesla range is not ‘real’ range. Take 50 miles off and there you go.

[@gsxr1000k11]

Note the 30 yr old round thermostat in Mike's house. Very inefficient. Tech up dude!

[@cesartrujillo4190]

If you are coasting, then you really don’t care about the range as much as you might claim. Thanks for mentioning one pedal mode and the fact you get options in EVs. I’ve traveled a LOT in EVs and if you have a good charging network there is no stress. You stop and plug in walk away, pee, grab a big drink and return to your car and get back on the road until the next time you need to pee. You car should do the math for you ok where to stop on the trip. Chargers need to be in stations with grouping of at minimum 6 or more. Unfortunately if you want to travel far and fast, Tesla’s will always have twice the options since you gave Tesla network of Superchargers and any other companies’ plugs. I want to drive the Mach E but I am not excited about charging at random charging stations that could be busy or not working or in a sketchy area. Stop, charge, pee, drink, whip.

[@javier_plumey]

400 mile range “more like a real car”? These are real vehicles used by hundreds of thousands of people every day.

[@ibretus]

If the screen fails you should be able to select what gear you want from your phone.

[@BryceLovesTech]

I love my 2013 Tesla Model S. I will never go back to gasoline again. With my solar panels I'll drive for free. Why would you ever pay for fuel?

[@MilanStier]

Damnit call it SEV! :D

[@aaronsexton6434]

Ryan i value what you have to say and share the same concerns.

[@irfanspace]

seems like motor bike style steering wheel , or Tesla making fun of this.

[@JakubKudlacz]

Nice work guys! Looking forward to a lot more EVs on our roads!

[@tmklunk]

Why?

[@emeyer6963]

@@tmklunk He works for Ford

[@yoyomo777]

CR is really going downhill. Do SOME research. The yoke steering is an Option. Don’t like it don’t get it. No need to get triggered over an imagined situation. It took 10s to find out Yoke steering is optional, you’re CR, freakin act like it.

[@tinhinnh]

Mach E has a Jag vibe

[@deanmcmanis9398]

Also, the point of Tesla's weight seems over emphasized. The BMW 340i weighs about the same 3550lbs as the Model 3 SR, and the BMWix (AWD) weighs about the same 3850lbs as the Model 3 dual motor. And the same weight levels are similar between the BMW X3 sDrive30i and the Tesla Model Y SR. But everyone expects the German near-luxury/performance sedans and crossovers to have costly tire replacements if driven hard. The same goes for the Model 3 and Y. Sure a car like the Honda Civic or Accord is going to be lighter, but it is not really in the same class, price, or market of cars as the Model 3/Model Y are, despite them both being economical to operate.

[@mcrkon]

What do you guys mean "it's like a normal car"? It's time to start calling EVs normal.

[@pdlynch4330]

Think I would wait a while before I would trust Ford's electric cars. Ford is still working on that 10 speed automatic transmission that keeps crapping out...

[@ultradaves]

It's an EV, your complaint about range applies to all EVs, not just Ford. Tesla range declines up to 40% in the cold. I hope you make it clear to your listeners that range declines in EVs in the cold, regardless of who makes them.

[@UESide]

The 200 mile range shown on the Mach e is based on previous drive history. Tesla gives range estimates differently without heavily basing it on past driving history. Call the Mach e a conservative approach but that doesn’t mean your range would only be 200 miles. You guys know this stuff right?

[@Jason.W.]

Not everyone can react like Hasselhoff in KnightRider. I’d love to see some reaction time comparisons of someone driving with round vs new style steering when there’s a tire blowout at highway speeds or getting pitted during an accident. I’m highly doubtful auto pilot can react properly after an accident has occurred and while it’s still in motion. Those second or two is what saves (other’s/pedestrian) lives.

[@Justacogg]

I think Ford‘s new electric SUV is going to be a good vehicle for them. Unfortunately they did some superficial styling and attached it to the mustang. Yes I am one of those and thinks it was a huge mistake. Ford has such a rich library of names that Ford could have brought back for this electric SUV. It’s exactly like Carol Shelby said, “in the end the name really doesn’t matter! “If it’s a good car the name will mean some thing, “if it’s a bad car the name will not save it”! Translation, the car itself makes the name, the name doesn’t make the car! I wish Ford had listened and been more creative as opposed to taking the easy way out and slapping some mustang cues onto an otherwise good electric SUV! It’s sad to see the mustang diluted by an electric SUV!! Come on Ford you’re better than that! Still not too late to update tomorrow, you’ve done it so many times in the past. Like going from freestyle to Ford Taurus X!

[@gregoryjudie7704]

Turning the Mustang into a compact SUV with a big mistake and their bottom line will prove it

[@markplott4820]

the MUCK-e is NOT a MUSTANG. in FACT Ford is KILLING the GAS Mustang soon and it will Fully Develop a MUSTANG EV in 2028, but it has to CLEAR the Factory First and then Rebuild the Production lines.

[@reximperatur1146]

This statement is like saying Lamborghini should not make an SUV. I can still remember when car guys and purists where at it against Porsche for making first a 4-door sedan and then an SUV. Had Porsche listened to them by trying to maintain a purely 2-door sports car line-up, they might have gone bankrupt already.

[@maryellenseay9900]

Only time will tell, right? Many would disagree with you, especially Ford.

[@buyallmeans425]

@@reximperatur1146 Ikr.. The Mustang name argument is so boring and lame.

[@Buc_Stops_Here]

Tesla took away the round steering wheel so you have to use the self-parking feature as parking it yourself is so inconvenient you won't want to do it. It is nice they put in 412 mile range (so in the cold it will be 360 miles) but that steering wheel is a non-starter for me. CR is finding they will have to test Tesla every year as they experiment on their drivers annually. I wonder what cars will come out of their budget with the nearly annual testing of another Tesla model? Ford's range of 230 miles rear wheel drive only or 300 miles only means in the cold less than 200 miles range, and about 250 miles on the large battery. AWD will make it even worse. No thanks with the temp outside 8 degrees today.

[@Mac_Raymond]

250 miles range is more than enough for most. The average commuter drives 20 miles one way. If you plug the car up when you get home it'll replenish before the next commute. The only people who would need to be concerned are those with commutes of 150 mi roundtrip and don't have 240v charging or 10 hours to charge.

[@fitztastico]

Can someone explain to me how behind Jake is a tomato, growing _inside,_ in _winter?_

[@kurthunter5206]

It's hydroponic: a hydroponic garden provides all of the nutrients without involving sunlight, or soil. A hydroponic system allows plants to directly uptake nutrients with the benefits of water-based, nutrient delivery systems. The solution is thus absorbed by the plant’s root, making it very easy for the plant to utilize what it needs and grow well.

[@jimmelay71]

grow light

[@ervlichterman4714]

Eliminate the “ums”. Very distracting.

[@ibrahimgtsr]

😂, you forgot the other word. That had been taking Americans by storm. “You Know”???

[@ibrahimgtsr]

I am sorry, but that was too much, I love you guys show, but that had been going around for sometime, you guys are here to informed 😅. 👍 🤣.

[@amigatommy7]

Tesla does not use auto grade screens; more like a tablet on a table in your house.

[@ymcpa73]

It isn't the screens that are the problem. There was some yellowing on the early models. The problem was the emmc solid state memory they were using. It has a certain number of write operations. Once it reaches that number it fails. This is a issue with all solid state storage.