2021 Mustang Mach-E: Regular Car Reviews

[@Koburakage]

Mustang Guys: "ThIs Is NoT a MuStAnG!!!!" Eclipse Guys: "First time?"

[@stefanwinter1377]

or Toyota Crown guys soon enough...

[@TheAceKannon]

@@stefanwinter1377 whaaaaaat? They’d *NEVER* ...would they?

[@racermigs1]

@@stefanwinter1377 There's the Corolla Cross here in the Philippines. Not sure if it's available in the US though.

[@izzy-monkey7112]

Yeah but mistubishi sucks so it doesn't matter

[@longshotmaster]

Eclipse guys has me rollin👳🏻‍♂️💀☠️

[@amoluppi]

Damn the Mustang gained quite a lot of weight during quarantine

[@martinlutz5446]

T H I C C Mustang

[@amoluppi]

@@martinlutz5446 THICCstang

[@TR33ZY_CRTM]

@@martinlutz5446 😩

[@AllonKirtchik]

It got stang by some BEVs

[@jakobholgersson4400]

@@martinlutz5446 Thicc implies curvy. This is just a fat blob with some random styling queues slapped on. It's a Karenstang!

[@beauleidig8670]

Mustang guys are pissed because they got the Mach-E "mom mobile" while Corvette guys got the mid engine the C8. Had Ford instead made a 2 door muscle EV, we'd be hearing a lot fewer complaints.

[@OCtheG]

I would’ve been first in line to buy THAT Mustang versus a radical anti Mach-E zealot they’ve made out of me. I’ve owned two Mustangs in my life, they’re near and dear to me and everything about this latest grotesque shitbox repulses me. It’s disrespectful

[@Limited-uq2yk]

Well a mustang and a corvette are two different vehicles.

[@Lianpe98]

duh

[@superchroma]

And now we find out that Chrysler is making an electric muscle car. Someone better collect those Ford lover tears.

[@insainllama]

A true ev mustang will be here soon enough. They needed to make a mass market ev so they could recoup the costs of R&D. Coming out with a 2 door muscle ev first would not have made financial sense for Ford.

[@a_Fax_Machine]

As a fan and owner of the much maligned Mustang II, I am pleased the mantel of "Most Hated Mustang" has passed on to this Ford Edge wearing a leather jacket.

[@samnope7344]

I think the Mustang II is the one in the leather jacket. This one has a beanie, unbuttoned shirt, skateboard over its shoulder and "how do you do fellow millennials?" T shirt. Seems to have worked on Roman and Mr. R though... Bizarrely

[@existinginaspace8347]

@@samnope7344 So this ones Tim Pool

[@samnope7344]

@@existinginaspace8347 I dunno man. It's complicated

[@seanobannon4888]

@@existinginaspace8347 well played

[@LITTLE1994]

I don't know. Both are just as bad.

[@daveh2612]

Roman always sounds like he's delivering his commentary from the back row of a funeral service.

[@Dr_Monitor]

Normally he sounds engaged, but this time, what he's saying feels forced. It sounds like someone's got a .44 magnum up to his head while he's speaking.

[@markplott4820]

ROMAN is a RENT BOY.

[@LogicalQ]

The Mach-E Eulogy

[@7633J]

Comment of the day.

[@MrJasonfromcanada]

Roman sounds like Arthur from the Tick

[@locuraphoto]

To Roman: I can assure you that a majority of problems people have with this car are not because of its electric status, but rather its SUV status. If the "Mustang Mach-e" was a Mach 1 body with an electric motor, way more people would be satisfied. Saying people are hating it on the principle of it being electric is, for the most part, wrong. People were expecting this, and you said it yourself. You're shooting at the wrong target, I'd say.

[@metal4ever516]

Bingo. Now, I'm not a muscle car guy, but I think an electric RWD Mustang would be sick. Instant torque to light up the rear wheels? Yes please.

[@OCtheG]

ACCURATE. Thank you!

[@BlueOvals24]

Agree completely, that's where I stand with this car. Would love if they had just taken the S550 and gave it an EV powertrain. He is right that names that last forever will not be the same as they were when they were new. And an electric coupe would have been an evolution to the Mustang. What we got instead was an abomination.

[@bricegraham8256]

Right on dude

[@drunkenhobo8020]

I feel the name has come from upper management. They were furious that the engineers made a really good electric car, so had to give it a name nobody could possibly like. Then they could blame any backlash on it being electric, rather than it being an SUV with a Mustang badge.

[@karasene2091]

"This is a Mustang, you should be used to things being faster than you." Shots fired.

[@Baddawg_313]

Me: (coughs in Camaro)

[@someguy9520]

That prbly hurt some Ford boys s

[@THESLlCK]

@@someguy9520 Some?

[@Jerorawr_XD]

My modded Civic SI pulls harder than base model mustangs. Oh how muscle cars have fallen.

[@mattgray6436]

@@Jerorawr_XD a modded car can go faster than the base model of another car stock?!?! I never could have guessed

[@snupermoto723]

2023 Camaro is a hydrogen powered cargo van, can't wait to test drive it, gotta love a good Camaro.

[@fluffskunk]

2024 Challenger is a Tuktuk powered by wood gas.

[@Christian---]

2030 Corvette is an electric anti-gravity pod with a pedal dynamo to charge the battery.

[@Birch_ON]

2035 Charger will be powered by Dodges all new "Flintstone" power plant. Producing upwards of 8 leg hp.

[@very7962]

Corvette electric mini van. What a farce.

[@ussliberty109]

2026 Harley Davidson Sportster mini-van. 2027 Buick LeSabre recumbant bicycle.

[@THEATOMICB0MB]

Mach-E Mustang: How dare you care about heritage. A91 Supra: THE HERITAGE!!!!!!!!

[@theEagleBeagle]

I'm telling ya. Ford missed the biggest opportunity to call it an E-Scape!

[@klaykid117]

They also could have called it the Model E and come up with the tagline that it's a trendsetter for an entirely new class of automobile just like the model t

[@jacobrzeszewski6527]

They should have called it the Probe. The original Probe was meant to be a replacement for the Mustang, but unlike now, Ford had the sense to read the room and make the SN95.

[@kirintheprotogen8659]

Probe. Sounds futuristic. Galaxie/galax-e. brings back an old name, attracts attention. Thunderbird. Iconic name with less history.

[@yeoldeseawitch]

thunderbird also has some electicy bits to it

[@thecianinator]

@@kirintheprotogen8659 That's a good point. And the Thunderbird's already been everything from a sports car to a wagon, so turning it into this wouldn't be anything controversial.

[@CheapskateMotorsports]

The outrage over the Mach is less about electrification, and mostly about the Mustang falling victim to the SUV/Crossover pandemic. SUVs are absolutely revolting to many of us and there really isn't anything you can do to change that. Putting a sporty name on it doesn't automatically make this type of car appealing to us and it makes us feel like Ford and Mitsubishi are treating us like babies with the Mach E and Eclipse.

[@BadBlonde-CarHistory]

lol

[@ErickC]

As someone who likes very small cars, I'm definitely not going to disagree on the idea of crossovers being some kind of cancer. Selfish, Unsightly, and Vain. ;) I do, however, get a little annoyed with the "not a real Mustang" thing - people said the same thing about the Mustang II back in the day, despite the contemporary "the Mustang II was not as bad as people say it was" phenomenon. In either case, it's a Mustang because Ford says it is. That doesn't make it "not a Mustang," it makes it "a Mustang I don't like." Which is fine. I don't care for Mustang IIs or post-1994 Mustangs.

[@tinystar3010]

Exactly... crossovers are dumb. I'd rather have a sports car, or a minivan. Not some drunken love child in-between wishing he could die.

[@punchy207]

@@tinystar3010 you are what you drive

[@johnnycaldwell8281]

I think they think we are dinosaurs who "won't change with the times" even though we are actualy a market they won't tap.

[@GODEYE270115]

RCR: This IS a mustang Also RCR: the new Supra is NOT a Supra ……..

[@CasperInkyMagoo]

The guy doesn’t know enough about cars to change his own oil. You shouldn’t be shocked at his inconsistent and ill-informed opinions.

[@Birch_ON]

@@CasperInkyMagoo then why are you here?

[@anthonyreynolds2365]

Yeah but difference is, the new Supra is in reality, just a rebadged BMW and feels like it when you get in it. Whereas the Mach E is a Ford product through and through. The new Supra has no identity of itself when a German manufacturer makes the car and Toyota just slaps their brand onto it.

[@ussliberty109]

@@anthonyreynolds2365 If Toyota made a new in house 4Runner but called it a Supra, would it still be a Supra (TM) to you?

[@anthonyreynolds2365]

@@ussliberty109 A better comparison would be calling a hi performance electric RAV4 a Supra because like the Mach-E, it's also built on a car platform, making it handle and act somewhat similarly to a car. Especially when you factor the low center of gravity a full "skateboard" EV like the Mach-E has. But even a 4Runner is preferable because at least it would be a Toyota through and through. Not some badge engineered BMW souless garbage. Cars need an identity to their own automaker. No one goes to Toyota to buy a BMW. I'll just go to BMW to get a BMW if I want it.

[@hta3139]

Goddamn it dude, I'm am a Vietnamese audience here, your text-to-speech which was in Vietnamese caught me off guard. Lmao.

[@Xanthopathy]

same lol

[@BadBlonde-CarHistory]

lol

[@RoughNek72]

Hahaha!!!

[@Carnyzzle]

I look forward to the website plugs more than I do the actual reviews

[@andydo4975]

Caught me off guard for sure

[@traxxasslash95]

It's just really weird that the Chevy Blazer and Toyota Rav4 now compete with a Ford Mustang and that a Ford Bronco competes with the Equinox, Cherokee, Pathfinder, and Passport while another Bronco competes with the Wrangler but not the Blazer, Pathfinder, or Passport.

[@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney]

Verily, the end of days is upon us.

[@karasene2091]

The Bronco 2 was always like that though, they just dropped the 2

[@michaellorah9051]

@@karasene2091 the Bronco Sport was always a thing in the 80s. Small 4 cylinder competing with the S10 blazer

[@doug960]

@@karasene2091 The Bronco II was a body on frame, truck based compact SUV with live axles front and back, and an actual transfer case. The modern Bronco is a unibody car with some mild off-road options available. It's more Rav 4 than Cherokee. The II was very off road capable. Problem was, it was built using swiss-cheese grade everything and it fell apart. When's the last time you saw a survivor Bronco II? I don't even see them in pull-a-part yards anymore because there aren't enough nice ones left to justify the real estate in the scrap yards. I welcome electric cars as long as I can buy them used, fix them myself, and save money over buying new like I've been doing since I was 16.

[@CeezarPie]

Just like the eclipse

[@PrintsCharming13]

The “mustang” Mach-E reminds me a lot of myself: a great disappointment to the rest of my family.

[@Lianpe98]

I would like this comment but it has 69 likes, so I can't destroy that beauty

[@superchroma]

It's actually quite ugly. Very disappointing.

[@cartilagehead]

It’s way faster than 99% of them tho

[@PrintsCharming13]

@@cartilagehead The performance is not the problem; it’s the image. If Ford branded this thing as the ‘Escape ST’ or something, it would have the image of a peppy little crossover for soccer moms or other people who otherwise have no interest in cars. Fine. Whatever. But by calling it a mustang, Ford is trying to convince you that it’s something that it is not. For the last 50 years, Ford has marketed the mustang toward a younger audience as a fun, budget-friendly performance vehicle, with practicality being a secondary or tertiary concern. The byproduct of both this marketing and the actual demographic of people who drive mustangs is an association with young, usually irresponsible hoodlums who are likely to get your daughter knocked up and try to skip town…Or by middle aged guys trying to recapture their youth - but I doubt that’s the image Ford is trying to convey. Now, all of a sudden, this ‘mustang’ is being marketed as an eco-conscious, practical crossover that happens to have a respectable 0-60 time. So when you see this ‘mustang’ pull up to your house, instead of worrying about your daughter getting in a family way with the local self-branded rebel, you’ll think “I hope those kids have a nice time at Applebee’s.” It’s incongruous with everything Ford has been trying to convince consumers the mustang represents and to me feels incredibly disingenuous. Like someone in the consumer research department said “We have an untapped market in the enviro-vegan-commie-techy-millennial market. How can we squeeze some money out of those naive little saps?”

[@cartilagehead]

@@PrintsCharming13 “the performance is not the problem, it’s the image” is the most Mustang thing anybody has ever said.

[@clumsygarage1578]

Electrified mustang: awesome Electric SUV called the Mach E: awesome Mustang Mach E: why is is called that tho It feels more like videogame companies slapping the name of existing franchises into otherwise unrelated spinoffs and remakes than “evolving the idea of the mustang.” Mustang Mach E: the metal gear survive of cars.

[@raptorjesus3894]

Mustang Mach E is just the vehicle equivalent of a modern "Assassins Creed" game. If you stripped Assassins Creed from the title, you'd never know they were one.

[@249sAreHeavy]

Alternatively, they could have called it the ford E-scape.

[@Creen64]

I knew this was going to be a Survive reference before I even finished reading. I played the shit out of that game, and until then the only other Metal Gear I'd played was V (I put almost 900 hours into it, though). Shit, does this mean I would sorta "grudge enjoy" this car like I did MG Survive? Yikes...

[@BadBlonde-CarHistory]

Agreed

[@Ilander86]

The Mustang badge helps Ford sell it as fast instead of "Green." It's an SUV Crossover because that's what Americans are buying. If the problem is the name, we're to blame. Coupes are dead and we killed them. Either the Mach-E is a Mustang, or the pony is going to the glue factory.

[@CUJOtheMASTER]

Drives an old mustang… “im not into speed, im more into handling”

[@myownsite]

It's not entirely hypocritical as it does neither. :P

[@jeniferdiamond7723]

Just curious, how much do you think his wife weights?

[@TR33ZY_CRTM]

@@jeniferdiamond7723 650 lbs

[@HellsJerome87]

If you’re into handling, just buy a VW Golf. Edit : or a Miata, of course.

[@myownsite]

@@HellsJerome87 If you're into high maintenance costs, feel free to buy VAG. :P

[@executiverobbery]

“Changes aren’t permanent, but change is.” - Geddy Lee

[@llamathenerd1672]

That was a very appropriate quote Alexander Hamilton.

[@Stjaernljus]

To me the Mach-E looks halfassed literally and figuratively. It looks like a rejected design for a ford focus crossover with a new front and new lights.

[@vulekv93]

Dude you just hit the nail on it's head.

[@tinystar3010]

They could have called it a Taurus SHO or something within that general area.

[@BadBlonde-CarHistory]

Indeed

[@Boerharms_Manta]

Exactly

[@iHaveTheDocuments]

Careful, these guys reallllllly like it. And it's DEFINITELY a mustang because Ford says so.

[@Ragna___]

Crossovers: A how-to-make disgustingly designed, similar cars.

[@BadBlonde-CarHistory]

hahahahahah

[@diamondxdragons]

Reminds me of the Porsche Cayenne, just a grossly stretched out car

[@DanKuhn]

They work well as a family hauler.

[@hanswurst4815]

thats not even funny at this point anymore. they all share the same ugly shape or design in their basis. its like a pest, but on the streets.

[@grahamsmith2022]

Nail firmly hit on the head.👍✌

[@GeoffreyToday]

I'm not a car guy. Never have been. This video popped up in my recommendations for reasons only the almighty algorithm can comprehend. I clicked out of curiosity because the thumbnail proclaimed "This is a mustang" while displaying a car that didn't look much like what I thought of as a mustang. When I hear the name "mustang" I think sports car. This design doesn't fit that idea for me. Like, it's fine, it's not ugly or anything, but if you showed me a picture of it, and then gave me a multiple choice list of what model of car it was, I would immediately cross mustang off that list as obviously not the correct answer.

[@enfynet]

It’s absolutely ugly. It looks like a fat Mazda with pony badges.

[@TheMrDemonized]

2013 RCR: nothing will kill mustang 2021 RCR:

[@BadBlonde-CarHistory]

hahah

[@philipstanley5611]

Oh I member

[@GTRGOD1000]

I mean in all honesty they are just the SJWs of the car world.

[@thegirthquake8574]

@@GTRGOD1000 RCR? Yeah kinda.

[@stevemcrichards8768]

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

[@PrincessAshly]

It's like when Mitsubishi made an suv and called it the Eclipse. They didn't have to do that, they could have called it something else. Names have weight and meaning, and they conjure ideas and expectations. A rose by any other name, of course, but we already know what a skunk and a rose both are and mean specific things to us. If God decided one day to make roses 2.0, the sequel to roses. But we decided to name it skunk 2.0...people are gonna be turned off by the name alone. A good name matters. Corvette pickup? Vanquish rv motorhome? Expedition subcompact? Some name combinations just don't make sense.

[@LLG47]

Thank you for breaking it down

[@ThePower1037]

And they hated the BMW mk5 Supra. So why not this?

[@snfriedm]

THIS. This is the perfect point. I don’t have a problem with the car, I have a problem with the name.

[@tinystar3010]

Exactly. When I hear mustang i think sleek, sexy, 2 door sports car, occasionally convertible. Something you buy to stand out in. This looks like a bottom of the barrel, family car tesla wannabe. People buy mustangs because they dont want to be seen in something as bland as a tesla. Also, i was upset with the eclipse name as well. I was a huge mistubishi fan, but after the eclipse thing and the Evolution getting discontinued, ive never looked at mitsubishi as a company since. Names do carry a heavy weight with them. If someone tells you they're gonna give you candy, but hands you broccoli, wouldn't your expectations and excitement plummet? Same thing here.

[@BadBlonde-CarHistory]

True

[@crossarmkid42]

I'm old enough to remember when the 4 door Chargers came out and every muscle car purist lost their shit over it.

[@ryugatsuchiya9018]

Mach-E: Now even the soccer moms can say she drives a mustang.

[@BadBlonde-CarHistory]

I'm dying ahahahah

[@johnsullivan937]

To be fair soccer moms already had mustangs. The v6 convertibles practically sold themselves

[@brianmoore2487]

My brothers wife just test drove one and said it would be so cool for him to have a wife who drives a mustang

[@philipstanley5611]

We don't need a mustang full of kids wrapping around a light poll... Karen can't handle the oversteer

[@kireta21]

"Karen Mustang"

[@JohnDove]

The powertrain isn't the issue, the fact it's a 5 door SUV is.

[@twoeightythreez]

The issue is that it’s called Mustang is really the only issue. Mach E would’ve been perfect.

[@Chris_Troxler]

They should have reused the Taurus name.

[@orangecayman520]

@@twoeightythreez exactly

[@baronvonjo1929]

Thank god is isnt a SUV. It's a CUV :D

[@Gearnauto]

Exactly. Why does everything new need to be veiled as something old. Make a new strong nameplate like mach E, yes still a throwback, but a new take. But when you close your eyes and say mustang. A 5 door SUV isn't what you see.

[@smoif228]

I’m not even a Mustang guy, Honda for me, but that’s not a Mustang. It’s as much of a Mustang as the Eclipse Crossover is an Eclipse, or the newer Dodge Dart is really even a Dart. I’m sure it’s a good ev, but it’s no Mustang

[@jacobrzeszewski6527]

At least the Dart wasn’t a staple nameplate.

[@moustachio334]

As a Honda guy. This is why I don’t want the S2000 to be remade.

[@zalien6]

Philly D burner account??

[@dennisphillips4897]

“Galax-E” was staring them in the face

[@orcastrike7750]

Jesus you’re right. There was so many other names they could’ve revived like that but they chose to massacre the Mustang. Edit: their slogan could’ve been something like “bringing the best of the past, to the future.”

[@wranglercody8422]

My thoughts exactly.

[@jaronbascom5258]

Sir Ford wants you to apply they just don't know it yet

[@Neojhun]

Nah I think they are going to produce that. Their first low sleek BEV.

[@trutuitt]

Probe

[@kylesoler4139]

Crossovers are the ultimate anti car.

[@wescoleman6390]

There is literally nothing about this car that would not be improved by building it to an altitude closer to a Mustang. Make it lower, drop some excess weight, and improve handling at the same time. It's like Ford made the Mach-E bloated for the sake of being bloated. I don't even mind the name. What bugs me is that Ford actively decided to make the vehicle worse just to call it a crossover and synthetically improve its marketing appeal.

[@BadBlonde-CarHistory]

lol

[@wigletron2846]

@@wescoleman6390 I wish they made an electric trim level "mach-e" of the regular mustang coupe and kept this a rejected focus crossover

[@govinlock8568]

@@mezzb My parents didn't like low cars, like they dislike Honda Fit because it is too low for them, despite I convienced them that the interior is as large as my current Suzuki SX-4 crossover.

[@Ilander86]

@@wescoleman6390 it's only 5.8" of the ground. It's just got a high roof and five doors. Not the first 'stang with a hatch on the rear, though.

[@JetScreamer24]

Not a Ford guy here, but this is just silly. You're trying to tell me how this is more of a Mustang than any before. And how great a car this is. This is not a Mustang. If you put an electric platform in a normal Mustang, I could understand that. This thing is an electric suv and some lazy marketing whiz thought it would be clever to call it Mustang. This is being lazy. Don't care how it rides or handles, etc., Ford built a new car, they should have given it a new name instead of riding the coattails of the Mustang. If this is the so called future of Mustang, they should've killed the name instead of shoe horning it into an electric suv.

[@errbody2847]

Why do you even care ma dude?,if you don't like it then don't buy it.anyway crossovers are taking over

[@anselladarrent]

@@errbody2847 because it use the mustang name. A mustang must be a sports coupe, and not some electric crossover.

[@JetScreamer24]

Not going to buy it, for sho. I won't be buying an electric or crossover and will drive my gas cars til their outlawed and I'm arrested and thrown in jail.

[@errbody2847]

@@anselladarrent So? Maybe the mach e can be something good for the company.

[@anselladarrent]

@@errbody2847 yes it's something good for company, but not for mustang fan and a lot of car guy. Because ford use the mustang name just for the marketing. Remove all the little details and the mach-e become ordinary electric crossover.

[@NickG40]

No, this is not a Mustang. It's an electric Escape that has Mustang styling.

[@corbingreiner9879]

It's as much a Mustang as the 1979 Nova vs the 1981. lol

[@JennyWakemanSimp]

It's a Mustang lol.

[@grantjohnstone9787]

Ford called it a mustang, it's not up to you 😂

[@Neojhun]

It's also NOT an Escape. Very far from it. Closest would be new "Puma" ST. Needs to be agile.

[@patrickmartin3322]

The only Mustang styling it has is the taillights and badges, in person it just looks like an obese Focus, it’s less of a Mustang than the Mustang 2

[@Crysisfan96]

"This IS a Mustang." That's rich coming from a guy who adamantly insisted that the new Supra is not a real Supra because it uses BMW parts.

[@pianofry1138]

Nah the new Supra is a BMW not just BMW parts. This Mustang Mach-E is still a Ford.

[@Crysisfan96]

@@pianofry1138 Fair enough, but at least the basic concept (2+2 seater coupe with a straight-six and RWD) wasn't changed, so my point still stands.

[@cannibalcurd7414]

@@Crysisfan96 was it though? Toyota had plenty 2+2 seater coupes with a straight-six and RWD among the years, a lot of them didn't wear the Supra moniker though. J29 is less of a Supra than most of it predecessors, and I don't think that the BMW involvement is the biggest factor.

[@THESLlCK]

@@pianofry1138 Every part was recast by toyota, the whole project almost got cancelled on us because of all the revisions toyota wanted to make

[@TheSportCompact]

@@THESLlCK The only thing the Engineers at Toyota had a problem with was the engine not being built to the standards of Toyota. Which they should've known the Germans haven't built a good engine that won't grenade itself in almost 40 years.

[@stevebuscemi3622]

Roman is bluepilled for accepting our SUV overlords

[@superchroma]

Yeah, definitely a bad take.

[@austinfrazier7325]

Roman has always come off as a follower so I’m not surprised. I mean he’s RCR’s Robin.

[@ben501st]

Most of the people I know, myself included, are salty about the crossover and not the electric motor.

[@Hosenanzugtasche]

I would so have driven an electric mustang, sure i would have liked the gas guzzler sound, but this BMW 1 for grannies just ain't it.

[@ScotWithOnet]

Exactly. They could have put an electric drivetrain into the S550 body and I bet nobody would have complained.

[@christopherjohnston6343]

Reminds me of a taller BMW Z3 M

[@1598hi]

Yes you are correct. That is the reason. Not sure why anything else is being suggested here.

[@very7962]

I very much dislike the electric motor itself. But it’s not as bad as what they did here. It’s an electric Ford Edge cosplaying as a mustang. Regardless of what mustang means, this ain’t it.

[@devonmask5192]

I get where you're going with this but we all know the ONLY reason this vehicle, with its smoothed over Aztek profile (yah, I went there) got any substantial attention was it used the 'Mustang' name. If Ford gave it any other name, no one would even notice it. So, a great short-term sales move. BUT if the Mustang nameplate is considered iconic, the danger is dilution in the long term. Frankly, I think it would have been braver and smarter to make an electric version of the current Mustang.

[@hughjassstudios9688]

Shoulda just given the Mustang GT the SLS Electric Drive treatment: make it still a drivers car, but just, electric

[@RoachOverlord]

Ford did make an electric Cobra Jet prototype. Granted, it was just a one-off, but it might be a sign of things to come.

[@jayxj7785]

You're right in pointing out the short term benifits. Ford knows that nobody would give a shit about their first EV and so to make some noise, they named it after the Mustang. Regarding an EV of the regular 2 door coupe Mustang, I'm sure it's in the works.

[@MrSlowestD16]

Exactly, it was an easy (and shitty) way to attach hype to an average electric SUV.

[@AustinRBa]

I agree completely, but getting good range out of a small car is really difficult. Less space to shove giant-ass battery packs.

[@MTLbigJ]

There is no denying the fact that the Mach E is a well thought out, well engineered and futuristic vehicle. However, this is where i disagree with Roman, call me a mustang perfectionist or someone who doesn't move with the times, but to me if a mustang doesn't have a 2+2, RWD, short trunk long hood coupe or convertible design it is not a mustang. And no, I dont disagree with the Ghia or Fox body or new edge, because they fit this criteria, 2+2 long hood short trunk RWD. These are in fact mustangs. The Probe was FWD, so no. This was no a mustang, and this was why people were up in arms, and if I'm honest, I'm a little disappointed that the mustang community allowed this monstrosity to happen. The electrification is not the issue. Mustangs were never originally meant to be muscle cars, they became with time, but they were always meant to be THE pony car. It was meant to attract people who wanted something different, and unlike anything else on the road, in Iaccoca eyes, that was his vision. The Mach E is the 100% opposite of this. the Mach E is a car that appeals to the masses. Its a generic looking SUV with Generic looking wheels with a generic 4 door design with a Generic infotainment system. This is has nothing to do with that it is electric. For example, I'm a huge fan of the electric Cobra Jet. I feel that Ford was threatened by the rise of Tesla. So they made a copy of what they make, and slapped a mustang pony on the front, because, lets be honest, nobody would give a shit about an electric ford SUV otherwise. Now people are trying to redefine what a mustang is. Which is wrong. Mustang has been this way for over 50 years. To me this is the "Vegan plant based burger" version of a mustang. It is meant to be like the real thing, but it is far from it. So lets just stop pretending. If you completely change the recipe and miss out all the key ingredients, how is it supposed to be the same thing? Look, maybe I'm just another whacko who is over-opinionated, and i know that in the grand scheme of thing my comment will make fuckall of difference. But seeing the brand I have been loyal to so long sell us out really leaves a bad taste in my mouth. And all I can say is support this if you want, but its not the real thing. The other day a man with a mach E pulled up next to me and waved at me in my s197. I just looked back, looked him in the eye and drove off. You are not one of us, and never will be. If you own a Mach E dont expect to get along with mustang enthusiasts, who have put all their blood sweat tears and money into thier cars.

[@sideswipebl]

You're totally right. RCR is really great at completely missing the point. The Mustang was always about being different and unique and its own thing. The Mach-E is just an Escape EV and the name is just plain disrespectful to people who grew up with Mustangs and loved them.

[@errbody2847]

@@chrisrandom1404 Nah guy

[@HeortirtheWoodwarden]

A Mustang is not what you define it to be, it's what Ford defines it to be. They are the owners. And your criteria is completely arbitrary. "I'm a little disappointed that the Mustang community allowed this monstrosity to happen"? What the hell are they supposed to do? Raid the Ford headquarters? That sentence has a concerning violent undertone. You just don't get to decide what a Mustang is supposed to be. Mustangs are always supposed to be what gives Ford money. Lee Iacocca has been dead for 2 years now, and they had moved on, as should you. Ford has every right to redefine whatever they want even it had been a certain way for 4000 years. Again, they own the logo. And things are constantly being redefined in the modern world, you should be used to it by now. The Mach-E is definitely not supposed to be the same thing as the Mustang. No one is pretending here. Just because it has the name Mustang you think it's supposed to be the same thing? It's supposed to be a mainly fast and "cool" electric SUV. They used the name Mustang for marketing sake, like you know, every car name ever. You were just fooling yourself by being "loyal" to a brand. They never gave a single shit about you. They just satisfy you when it's convenient for them. It's like it's a big reveal or something. It shouldn't be. Let that be a lesson for you to see corporations for what they always have been. And finally, be as criterious as you want about who can get into you little club, it's your right, but just get over yourself, man. You're like a 10 year old boy nailing a big wooden sign in front of a treehouse saying "NO GIRLS ALLOWED". It's not like they're missing the chance of a lifetime, they most likely don't even care. It's really not that big of a deal.

[@chrisrandom1404]

@@HeortirtheWoodwarden I have to disagree. There are multiple things wrong with your argument. 1) Yes a vehicle is not what we define for it to be. BUT Ford has spent over 50 years defining what the Mustang as a sport coupe/ convertable. It's really hard to change that criteria now. Especially with a die hard fan base. 2) While things change in the modern world many things stay the same. A car is a car, a truck is a truck, etc. It's like growing an apple and calling it an orange. Sure things change and you own the product. But an apple is still an apple. They're both round and fruit but not the same. Which leads to number 3. 3) They are pretending that they are the same thing. They even advertise it as being a horse from the same stable. They even said they were aiming to sell to enthusiats. They claim the Mach E comes from 50+ years of heritage. They are allegedly one and the same. Ford was banking on using the Mustang name to sell the Mach E. Instead it has alienated potential buyers. Consumers can't decide what a product is named but they do decide if it succeeds or fails. Year to date sales of the Mach E are DOWN compared to the Mustang. (According to Ford themselves.) If buyers are not buying them then there is a problem with the product. I doubt it's the electric part as Tesla has no problem selling cars. My guess is the name and backlash it has received. No other manufacturer calls an SUV after their iconic sports car. There's no 911 SUV (that's Cayenne), there's no Diablo SUV (that's Urus), etc. You see the the trend? Ford did make a mistake naming this after their iconic sports car. Not so much because they called it a Mustang but because THEY defined what a Mustang was for over 50 years. And THAT success is what hurts the Mach E.

[@MTLbigJ]

@@HeortirtheWoodwarden Imma make this quick....Unlike keyboard warriors like you I have a life. Anyways. Ok. You know what man? You're right. You are completely right that ford has the right to do what they like with the mustang name. Just like I wrote in my original comment, I am probably just another over opinionated whacko, never asked anybody to listen to me. You read my comment and got offended. That's on you buddy. HOWEVER. Let me make this point so even a simpleton like you can understand. I work for a corporation, a very big one. Not saying which, but I'm paid pretty handsomely and have good benefits. So, I can't complain. But I understand how corporate structure works. And how it likes to shit on everybody and every single day I work I see how cruel and unforgiving the world is through the corporation's bullshit procedures. I see first hand how people are stupid and will believe whatever bullshit is thrown at them, whether we are talking about cars, or products, or brands, or social media posts. I understand that Ford is this exact same depressing way. They have a bunch of suits in offices controlling the business aspect with no humanity at all. Of course this is all for money. I'm not stupid. Financially this is the best move Ford could have ever done. What if, and it's a big "what if". For once maybe the hope of knowing that a company will do what is right instead of what will make the quickest buck. Maybe people get pissed off when they see a fucking SUV when they see their passion get destroyed. Maybe it's saying the era of real car designers are gone and replaced by a bunch of idiots in suits? The point I was making, which completely went past your head, was exactly what you proved. They did it for money. Are they allowed to? Yes, absolutely. Does that make it right? No. I don't wear brand name shit because I refuse to waste my money on bullshit. In the exact same way I will not spend money on this new "brand" of mustang. The people who buy it only do because they want the brand of being a mustang. Ford makes the mustang, but the owners made the name mustang mean something man. If it wasn't for the people buying mustangs in the first place they wouldn't have as big of a fan base to sell too. It's ecactly like sports. I'm not answering back to this anymore because I have more important things to do than start a keyboard warrior. I said what I had to say, and my opinion hasn't changed what so ever. You aren't a real enthusiast, so quite honestly I could give a fuck what your ass has to say. I don't need your faggot ass to tell me how company's are evil because beleive me I've seen first hand a company destroy people's lives, cause people to divorce, to losing custody of their kids to being suicidal. So don't give me that bullshit guy. It's more you that needs to get over yourself buddy. Heres some friendly advice. Find yourself a nice looking girl get your dick sucked and maybe you'll be a less of a miserable fuck. 👌👌👌

[@liquidkameleon]

If it doesn't oversteer into a crowd when leaving a parking lot it's not a mustang.

[@salamov963]

Ded meme but ok +1

[@liquidkameleon]

@@salamov963 Sorry, I had to.

[@BAK3D]

@@salamov963 Dead meme but every jackass on youtube cries foul when a challenger rapes their mustang. Js

[@nathanlewis5682]

Running over candyass rioters blocking the road

[@BadBlonde-CarHistory]

hahahahah

[@SoI_Badguy]

My problem isn't with it being electric, my problem is that it's built like a RAV4

[@dexterhochstetler3727]

I'd be more interested if it was just a straight up electric Mustang.

[@simmytu]

@@dexterhochstetler3727 And the name would've made sense, but no that's too logical thinking. "Lets muddy the Mustang brand" some Ferd employees probably.

[@tinystar3010]

Ty!! Rav4.... i knew this looked familiar to something generic... as soon as I saw rav4 it clicked lol

[@robotbjorn4952]

Built like a Toyota? That would be a compliment to _any_ American automaker.

[@BadBlonde-CarHistory]

hahah

[@noirceur_]

Roman: "I'm not a fast car guy, I'm a handling car guy" Also Roman: *buys one of slowest and worst handling mustangs* 😂

[@GiordanDiodato]

pretty sure the Mustang II is slower.

[@redlight3932]

@@GiordanDiodato the bars on the floor

[@armchairmaster]

"This is a Mustang." In the same way Halo 5 is a "Halo" game. Yes, it nearly has all the makings of a Halo game, but it has fundamental differences in its' design that prevent it from being compareable to other Halo games, including Halo 4 by the same developers. Car guys and Mustang fans aren't pissed because the Mustang went electric, as Mr. Regular insists they are; they're pissed because the fundamental design of this car is as un-Mustang as possible. Even with the Foxbody, one of the most unique looks for the Mustang lineage, it was still a two-seater taking inspiration from their original pony-car design. This Mach-E isn't a pony car in any sense of the word; it's the fat wagon the horse carries around like a burden on the Oregon trail. If Mustangs were about making the driver feel good as Roman says, this Mach-E fails in that department because you're driving a fatass SUV trying to fit into their old gym clothes when they were in shape, that STARTS around $50,000, far more expensive than all the previous generations. For fucks sakes that's only a couple thousand dollars away from a brand new Porsche Macan (starting around $52,000) and with that you get a Porsche that actually makes you feel special inside because the material is nice. The value is laughable, because there are much better alternatives even if you pay less cash. (The Tesla Model Y starts at $47,000, and has a slightly longer range as well.) If the Mustang isn't judged on the merits of performance and "handling" (seriously Roman, not even Mustang diehards will try to call a Mustang a handling machine), the only thing it can be compared to across generations is its' looks and style. The Mach E has neither. Yes, bodystyling is one of the more superficial parts of car design because it's just looks, but it's also the most important in building an identity within your brand. A Bronco will always look a certain way, so will a Dodge Challenger or a Chevy Camaro. Even the new Corvette, with the engine in a brand-new place and no manual transmission option, that's still a Corvette because it looks like a Corvette should. Ford Mustang Mach-E: A car that managed to unite boomers and milennials in their hatred for a new product. Mustang Mach-E: For the hipster who thinks he's better than other hipsters.

[@Petrospect]

that's the same thing matt farah said recently actually. kinda agree. but i guess that'd be less interesting than beating on mustang owners/fanboys.

[@Dan_Danger_Brown]

This is the take I'm here for. The Roman wants to use the No True Scotsman argument, but he is himself using a Strawman argument. "You guys are just mad it's electric." No, we're mad that it's electric, and a cross over. Give me a Mustang coupe with electric motors that can tear my face off. Give me a Mustang Sedan with a V8 that can fight Chevy SS and Dodge Challengers. Give me a Mustang Crossover with that same V8 and it'll be palatable if it's fast. But this is a bridge too far, it's too many changes at one time to be accepted by the car enthusiast Ford loves to spit on.

[@armchairmaster]

@@Petrospect There will always be a place for giving Mustang guys a hard time, but since even Mustang guys don't want to associate with this "thing", it doesn't really work from a joke perspective.

[@armchairmaster]

@@Dan_Danger_Brown The take also doesn't work because this video exists on the same chanel that insists that the new Toyota Supra isn't a Supra. Even if it was made with BMW, the new Supra is much closer in spirit to the previous Supra than this dissapointment of a Mustang is. If the new Supra is like getting brisket when you wanted tacos, the new Mach E is like shoving fermented fish into someone's mouth when they wanted a donut.

[@Dan_Danger_Brown]

@@armchairmaster I would be very disappointed with lutefisk even if I did order it.

[@henken__sensei5820]

We’re not mad it’s electric we’re mad it looks like a crossover SUV, it has mustang elements but it’s not a mustang, nothing about it is a mustang 😅

[@MrSlowestD16]

Yeah, for real, it's electric, fine, nobody's mad about, it's the whole fucking SUV aspect.

[@TrueGrandImperial]

They called it a Mustang. Ford, at the end of the day, decides what a Mustang is/isn't. I don't like it either.

[@Starfighter-nk4mo]

@@MrSlowestD16 yeah. If Ford took there modern real mustang and put 700+ horsepower and kept it rwd but electric people would love that.

[@PragmaticPragmatic]

This is a modern Mustang. The Mustang was always about taking a mass market vehicle and making it different and more desirable. Falcon to Mustang, Fairmont to Mustang. What's changed is what is a current mass market vehicle and what is considered desirable. Current mass market vehicles are all SUVs. Currently the hot desirable vehicles are electric (even if some are not ready to admit it). So if Ford mass market vehicle is an Edge an electric Edge is a mass market vehicle made desirable so it must be a Mustang.

[@TrueGrandImperial]

​@@absolootdisaster1060 Yea it sucks but Ford can do whatever with the name as far as it relates to cars. They could even decide to just kill the name off altogether if they wanted. We have no control over any of it.

[@jaimemcnulty]

Roman’s talk of how the machine’s thoughts align with the driver’s makes me think that maybe human became cyborgs when they fell in love with cars.

[@toasterbathboi6298]

"This IS a mustang" - the same channel that says the new supra isn't a real supra

[@pohsibkcirrag6312]

Wow, you smashed the hell out of that nail head.

[@iPROFITDON]

lmfao

[@mikecronis]

It's a BMW Z4 with a lot of fake vents.

[@toasterbathboi6298]

@@mikecronis just like this is an electric Ford escape with mustang badges

[@12ealDealOfficial]

Ding ding ding. "I was scared of being stared at by a family of four in the country because of my sexuality." Same guy that said, "Just because you don't like the glove doesn't mean you can't shake the hand of the man who's wearing it."

[@somethingsock6707]

“Sequels that aren’t sequels”: the car

[@BlaBla-pf8mf]

Mach-E is the Netflix adaptation.

[@drby0788]

The halloween 2018 of automobiles.

[@emeraldcity_]

I do not listen to car reviews from a person who drives a mid 2000s mustang with a v6 automatic. My god man. For a “function over form” guy, you have neither with that model. That’s a rental car for a sexless married 55 year old on a convention business trip to Lincoln, Nebraska and “just wants to cut loose”.

[@Mrstubbsthezombie]

It seems like Mr regular doesn't pay his employees enough lol I would have hoped his number 2 guy would drive something less shit

[@dillonmiller956]

It’s not that the mustang went electric. It’s that Ford build an electric escort or focus and slapped a mustang badge on it. Mustang has always been a two door sports car. They could have continued that and added blinding performance from an electric drivetrain. Instead they made it a four door sedan/crossover.

[@sipsimies1588]

Its fucking embarassing

[@theinstitute1324]

Right. I mean the outrage is a bit much at times but most people hit it right on the head when they are asking 'WHY call it a mustang' as opposed to saying 'this isn't a mustang'.

[@nukeclears]

Roman "my parents are asleep in the other room" car reviews.

[@lukemacdonald3872]

keep him out of the narration. his voice emits estrogen.

[@ramsapien]

Seriously, I usually skip the Roman-narrated videos. Dude puts me to sleep.

[@Bartonovich52]

@ Luke McDonald With a comment like that I bet he’s more secure in his masculinity than you are. Remember, the loudest in the room is the weakest in the room.

[@lukemacdonald3872]

@@Bartonovich52 thats pretty loud right there

[@lukemacdonald3872]

love yall anyways. fuck yo couch.

[@SleepTrip2000]

"this IS a mustang" giving huge "I AM A SURGEON" ahhh vibes bro💀

[@ID-unavailable]

1-crossovers are ugly 2-the giant Tesla tablet thing that everyone will now copy looks cool for navigation purposes and nothing else

[@walpoly]

Eh. I'm not a Mustang guy, but it's a misstep to call this thing a Mustang. Mustang means something. Every Mustang until this one has been a 'sports' car, all 2 doors, either a coupe or a hatchback. Every single one. Until now. I would have been fine if they launched an actual Mustang with an electric drivetrain - I think that would be pretty awesome, actually. I would be fine if they just called this the Mach E or if they came up with some other name. Don't take an existing brand name and slap it on a completely unrelated vehicle. I would be equally upset about an Escort truck or an F series sedan. Names have meaning.

[@lars5306]

THIS THIS THIS AND SO MUCH THIS

[@ErickC]

It might be a misstep for "car people," but the proof is always going to be in the sales compared to previous model years. 10 years from now, what are the books going to look like? I don't think any of us knows for sure if this is a misstep or not. Only time will tell.

[@chrisrandom1404]

@@ErickC according to Ford the Mach E has sold less than the Mustang coupe so.........

[@proud_emmerian6510]

@@chrisrandom1404 Gee, I wonder why.

[@kubeanie18]

@@chrisrandom1404 lol thats not true lol its electric thats gonna happen

[@yaboi5047]

Roman killed it. Thanks fellas

[@jayxj7785]

Ford Model E (as in Model T) would've been the prefect name for the brand's first all electric vehicle.

[@nomoreheroes93]

I don't think they were allowed to use Model E because someone else owns that moniker

[@jayxj7785]

@@nomoreheroes93 you mean Teala? The Model 3 was supposed to be "Model E" as that would've made Tesla's lineup "SEXY" as Elon wanted. Ford stopped Tesla from trademarking "E" You may be right, Ford might have lost the rights to "Model"

[@insayn7995]

@@nomoreheroes93 ford owns the model e moniker

[@quillmaurer6563]

I'm guessing neither Ford nor Tesla could use "Model E" - Tesla has the "Model" bit and Ford the "E" part. Both this and the Model 3 probably would have been "Model E" had their respective makers had their way.

[@tomokokuroki2506]

Also they may as well go all in on it basically being a Tesla with extra padding.

[@collinmanning8334]

Matt Farah said it best. It's not a mustang. It's a good electric 5 passenger. Not a sports car.

[@DanielPearson1]

Well, Regular and Roman both called it "nimble" in this video. I wonder how their and my definition of nimble align. Poorly?

[@lsh3rd]

… but has the Mustang always been a sports car? I’d argue some models have been and some have not.

[@jerryhand8538]

A 6 cylinder mustang is for the guy who will never end up tail lights first into a crowd of people wishing they had a Cobra !

[@yungsteaksauceakalilwasher6571]

13:45 its funny how Roman says that he prefers function over form when he owns the most blatant example of form over function with his auto v6

[@nomadben]

Great point, I didn't think of that.

[@Zanelander]

It doesn't matter if it's a V6 or an automatic when it's the only car you have. V8's are everything. If you want to bitch about V6's go over to Drew Peacocks channel.

[@tinystar3010]

Now that i think about, in terms of people vs cars, roman is to the mustang mach-e as mr regular is to any other true mustang. I kind of unintentionally zone out when Romans bits happen...

[@yungsteaksauceakalilwasher6571]

@@Zanelander why not just buy another car at that point, this is PA after all there are a ton of used cars there Besides, an auto v6 mustang is pointless. It is slow, with bad build quality, average reliability, bad gas mileage and it isn't even that cheap because it is called a "Mustang". Since he talks about "" "" "" handling""" "" "" so much, why not buy a miata at that point? Hell most cars on the road can out handle a New Edge Mustang

[@1pfuller]

That’s a great point. I’ve always been baffled as to how someone so into cars drives such a dogass car like Roman does.

[@kitchen5203]

Can't wait till he gets his hands on the Maverick

[@randombuilds8336]

I think ford missed out on a marketing plan for the maverick. Give it the bronco front end, but keep the tops of the fender rounded, call it the ranchero.

[@T0astedR0asted]

Not forgetting the Bronco/Bronco Sport

[@undergroundwalkerisback922]

@@randombuilds8336 well personally I think that, if the full size pickup is the f-150, and the “intermediate” pickup is the ranger, they should’ve called the maverick something like the scout.

[@randombuilds8336]

@@undergroundwalkerisback922 it's a unibody more like a ranchero, or the elcamino/ridgeline/ aussie ute. So with the retro craze it wouldn't have taken much to get a similar enough look to use the ranchero name and get the retro sales pitch.

[@undergroundwalkerisback922]

@@randombuilds8336 well seeing as the rancheros purpose was a utility vehicle with the comfortability of a two door sedan, and the new maverick is more of an inner city economy based “if you need a bed you have one kinda” vehicle, i don’t think it should bare the ranchero nameplate, or the maverick nameplate. If they wanna bring the ranchero back to compete with things like the Holden Ute in Aussie land that’s fine, but giving an old name purely based off some nostalgia trip to a vehicle that has nothing to do with the vehicle the name belonged to is just bad marketing.

[@gymusen]

As James Pumphrey said once: "All cars go to hell" And in this case, this once surely deserves to be there.

[@EpicTyphlosionTV]

Ford: This is a Mustang Literally everyone else: This is an abomination

[@kenabi]

saw thumbnail; went 'nah... this is...' especially after seeing the munro mach-e teardown series. this thing is a nightmare brought to life.

[@Chrispypullen]

If it bleeds, we can kill it

[@JohnSmith-wx9wj]

Ford: Crossover? Crossover crossover crossover crossover. Crossover!

[@ErickC]

If even one person says it's not an abomination, then your statement is false - two people said it wasn't in the video. So, no, "literally everyone else" does not think it's an abomination. In fact, beyond a select few "grr carr guyz," nobody gives a shit because not a lot of people care about Mustangs to begin with. Most people drive Corollas and their ilk.

[@pinksnowbirdie2938]

@@ErickC and I can attest to what RCR is saying in the video, I don't think it makes much sense to say it's not a Mustang -- Ford made the mustang, they can make anything they want a mustang lmao or they could just stop making mustang all together but it's a strong name so I don't think they would lol but it's just so stupid to gate keep a car that has gone through several iterations and has done things to it that dont make it like the purer form of mustang and an electric mustang was inevitable.

[@profilename1337]

They only called it the mustang for a marketing tactic. I mean look, it sure got everyone talking about it.

[@tinystar3010]

Good publicity gets people to buy the product, not simply talk about it. Bad publicity gets people talking about it yes, but to make fun of it.

[@BadBlonde-CarHistory]

Exactly

[@hughjassstudios9688]

Well it got everyone talking… for about a few weeks, then we subsequently forgot about it. A fate befitting a humdrum copycat

[@proud_emmerian6510]

Bad publicity is still publicity

[@234fddesa]

@@tinystar3010 ""there's no such thing as bad publicity." -Confucious" -Marketing committee

[@divecolosio4988]

Mom: Look, son! It's a brand new Mustang, your favorite sports car! Son: Yay! A brand new Musta....huh?! What is this car? Mom: it's a Mustang, look here! *points to the Mustang badge Son: ......

[@jacobrzeszewski6527]

“We have Mustang at home” Mustang at home:

[@brian5o]

Now you need to review a Ford Probe, the original rejected Mustang.

[@GalaxyStandard77]

Do you mean to say Mazda MX-Probe

[@rodferguson3515]

No... Ford's original Mustang big Time marketing mistake since the Mustang 2.

[@christopherjohnston6343]

People probably would have liked the Probe better if it came with the KL-ZE.

[@нико-р2х]

Where the heck is he supposed to find one? They are super rare from what I can recall.

[@phyrexiancoffee6324]

@@нико-р2х It killed me the other day when searching through the local Pick 'N Pull to see a Probe sitting on their yard just completely rotting away.

[@ReverendTed]

The Mach-E is what it is. Somewhere there is a story about why and how they came to attach the pony to it. I would like to believe it was more than simply "controversy gets people talking", but I honestly haven't seen any other rational justifications.

[@austinv183]

I mean, they admitted it was just to mooch off the iconic name for sales in the first press release I saw.

[@zshadows]

"We need people to at least wonder if this might be fast, fun, and rare, rather than write it off."

[@kaiserfoxi266]

It's for branding. Similar to how people will drop 50 extra dollars on a white T shirt because it has a designer logo. If this wasn't a mustang it would basically just be an electric EcoSport.

[@Appletank8]

Ford never really had a car name that was made famous, outside the Mustang.

[@falcongamer58]

@@Appletank8 Bronco, F150, Ranger, Crown Victoria, Focus

[@eggbag4182]

I overheard someone complaining that the Mach-E wasn’t a Mustang. I didn’t realize that THEY drove a REAL Mustang (V6 auto).

[@Protoapex]

"Now don't get mad, this is a Mustang- you should be used to things being faster than you." LMFAO

[@eviebr83]

Shots fired... waiting to count the casualties 🤣🤣

[@Majima_Nowhere]

"Man, 'Fantasy RPG' is such a good game." "Then you'll love 'Fantasy RPG 2!' We've turned it into a first person shooter that shares none of the characters or story, and the main focus is the Battle Royale mode!" "...So it's not a fantasy RPG?" "NO IT'S AN RPG BECAUSE WE SAY IT IS"

[@samnope7344]

What, don't you guys have phones?

[@goatsplitter]

Best analogy there will ever be. 🤘🏽

[@ussliberty109]

My face is tired.

[@Unfree666]

When you talked about handling, reminded me of my very first car - 2012 versa hatch, dear god was it slow, but smash the throttle and throw it into a corner- I drive calls all day as a job - and nothing has beaten that car in terms of pure joy it brings.

[@87knox]

A Mustang station wagon. We have reached peak 70's, fifty years too late.

[@vulekv93]

But it's SUV-crossover, and you like that, right, right fellow kids? They actually made Ford Station Wagon and Four-door versions of Mustang back in the sixties as a concepts, I shit you not.

[@2AMinLosAngeles]

man a real mustang wagon or shooting brake would actually be hella cool, but theyll never make one.

[@crossarmkid42]

They made a Mercury Cougar wagon in the 70s, and the Cougar at one time was the Mustang's twin brother.

[@robthegobbler]

fairmont wagon. modified fox chassis. THAT is a mustang station wagon.

[@tehPURPLEroflWAFFLE1]

the whole “if you can’t afford it shut up!” argument is kind of asinine, wasn’t expecting that kind of thing from mr regular to be honest.

[@paul66766]

Auto manufacturers live and die on new vehicle sales. If you're not buying the vehicle up front, the manufacturer owes you nothing.

[@david.godbey]

I don't see it as "if you can't afford it, you're opinion doesn't matter". I understood it more as "if you aren't looking to spend this kind of money on a car like this, stop complaining that it exists, because you're probably not it's intended market, anyway".

[@catfish552]

He's gotten steadily more boomer of the last year or two, and it's worrying.

[@tomokokuroki2506]

@@david.godbey Didn't know cars could undergo gentrification lol

[@r3n3gad34l1f3]

Ever since the Lotus review, you could slowly see his automotive standards begin to rise. Hell, half the rides he does are 50k and up and the “regular cars” that are reviewed aren’t reviewed with the same passion they once were, you’ll get a dime piece every once in awhile but for every pt cruiser, Prelude, New Yorker, shadow, and hell even raptor review, you get an explorer review (god it was horrendously slapped together, the Oldsmobile bravada got more effort). Not saying they don’t still have a passion for the business, you can just tell Mr. Regular especially has a more..”refined” taste. He doesn’t appreciate cars for being symbols of their time unless they’re quirky classics, or unless they wow him with performance, or make him feel important in a sense. Nothing wrong with it, it’s just an overarching theme I’ve noticed over the years that seems to trickle into the reviews now. I still love the show, I just wish Mr. Regular would be a bit more regular again. Dude I would kill for a review on a 3rd gen focus with the powershit trans, or a Chevy Cruze “rs” hell, even a Mitsubishi Galant. That would be fun

[@MattMatt77]

Normal people: I want fast car. Car Makers: Here's Fast car.

[@wristofkings]

Forget all the bro/Boomer rage from the nomenclature stunt on this boring Karen-approved jellybean. What really enrages me is the pervasive design trend of carelessly slapping a stupid tablet dead center on the dash with zero regard for ergonomics or safety. Just a gigantic sales aid for clueless corporate units entertained by the adult version of jangling keys in front of their face.

[@Sosaparks]

I mean, yeah, that’s the car market. If companies wanted to make serious small trucks they’d design a truck from the ground up instead of taking their crossover and hacking the back off. I understand they have to make money but a ton of products are really half assed lol, inb4 some ridgeline defender comes to tell me that most people don’t use their trucks anyway and the like

[@LoneWolf-kw3ol]

Most of the interior feels like that. Dial shifters are unbelievably stupid and make no sense, the dash is a flat panel with an undersized screen, the console and mid dash area are just barren, and why the fuck are we still doing interiors in grey and black when dodge just brought back some incredibly beautiful red accents in the Rebels? Im over here with a 1999 Ram 1500 and im calling this interior garbage

[@Christian---]

And the cars that do this can barely be kept from the customers hands, so the state of the market demand is really the reason why we are staring at these ashes of civilization.

[@нико-р2х]

They're trying so hard to become Tesla...

[@tobyvision]

A friend of mine leased a Subaru with a giant tablet in the dash. He had to take the thing in to have that tablet REPLACED three times in two years.

[@זהסודי-ה7מ]

If this was a new Lincoln navigator, I'll probably like it

[@jd9119]

I would expect more luxury from a Lincoln. This is just a sporty Focus.

[@TheAndre8900]

Missed a big opportunity by not naming it ''Lightning''.

[@jayxj7785]

@@TheAndre8900 even better, Ford Model E

[@dusanj]

Or maybe even the Ford galaxie, the opportunities are endless

[@digitalrailroader]

@@TheAndre8900 they were saving the Lightning name for the electric F-150.

[@PaulBarger]

Mr. Regular has a voice that I could listen to for hours upon hours on end. Roman’s voice makes me want to jab chopsticks into my eardrums. He sounds like a V6 automatic Mustang driver.

[@ldisc66]

The Mustang Mach-E brought to you by a retired CEO who's more of a restaurant entrepreneur than an automotive enthusiast.

[@THESLlCK]

"THIS IS A MUSTANG," the ward patient screamed

[@Esa826]

Nope....

[@jasosmurray137]

I’m ready man. This is the future.

[@someblokeidk8565]

I don't mind it being an EV I just don't like the fact that it's an SUV

[@quillmaurer6563]

I think that's everyone's attitude - an electric Mustang - proper 2 door coupe - would be pretty sweet in many peoples' minds, it keeping up with the latest in car technology and performance. But the Mustang - electric or gas - is not an SUV.

[@StoriesByDighe]

It’s a CUV at best

[@AE86FTS]

@@StoriesByDighe Exactly the problem with the "SUV" fad. Most of them aren't even true SUVs. Like they honestly have no reason to exist over a wagon or minivan, aside from the illusion of capability.

[@stuntmonkey00]

Bingo. The only way to make EV's economically feasible right now is to make them big and price them premium. But on a pure engineering level, a SUV EV is an abomination; clean electricity is scarce in the US and battery's are heavy and dear. If there was any justice in this world, EV's would be regular cars without all of the mass and bulk, cuz F=MA and adding electric charging capacity for an entire nation is not going to be cheap.

[@quillmaurer6563]

@@stuntmonkey00 Hence why my dream commuting machine, once there's one of sufficient range and performance at a decent price, is an electric motorcycle. Overall the main issue I see with cars these days, whether gas or electric, is their excessive size - way bigger than most people need most of the time. Bring back little economy cars, stuff that was getting 40mpg in the '80s with far cruder technology than we have now.

[@danield8528]

I don’t care about the money. Or if I don’t have it. I’m not jealous. I’d rather spend $50K on a used GT350.

[@insayn7995]

Same

[@DrewLSsix]

Thats like bragging about who you would vote for in a country you don't have the vote.

[@nomoreheroes93]

Not the same like for like on price, the service costs on the GT350 are so much higher so it'd be about 1.5x the price for TCO

[@insayn7995]

@@nomoreheroes93 gt350 would also hold its value much better though.

[@ThePower1037]

@@insayn7995 RRBRBrBrBrRRAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH shirft BRBRBrBrRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH 100mph allready!? crash. Flat Plane Mustang

[@five7teen694]

I think people would be "less mad" if the Mach E was on the current Mustang chassis and not on an SUV

[@SirFlukealot]

Oh sweet, I didn't know my golf cart was a Mustang this whole time

[@BadBlonde-CarHistory]

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

[@JK061996]

What if I told you there is a Mustang skid steer?

[@dillonmiller956]

Just stick the pony on it and call it a mustang and there ya go! That’s the precedent Ford just set with this thing.

[@StickPeopleAndPuff]

Guy who drives a V6 auto: "Yeah its about handling not speed" The kicker is that its still a mustang.....

[@BadBlonde-CarHistory]

lol

[@wigletron2846]

And those mustang's still don't handle worth a shit

[@jblyon2]

@@wigletron2846 Live rear axle baby! Now find me the nearest tree, I need to wrap this car around it STAT!

[@armchairmaster]

Even a Mustang with a V6 Auto, even an Ecoboost Auto, is more of a Mustang than the Mach E will ever be.

[@VL1975]

That's how I feel about my Charger..lol

[@AlicesWondereland]

Hey Roman, you left your purse in the back seat of your 4-door Club Car. (7:41)

[@Dieselkraftwerk]

They should have called it "Pon-E" . That would have picked up the horse theme while not watering down the mustang Name. Also it would have been funny 😄

[@jacobrzeszewski6527]

69 likes, nice.

[@Pandamasque]

I've never see such a fat pony though.

[@thecianinator]

My Little Mustang

[@USSMariner]

GALAX-E

[@cudaphil]

Wow the Ford Focus has come a long way since 2000

[@LoneWolf-kw3ol]

These days Ford just makes a mediocre truck, a totally-not-a-duramax-diesel and 10-15 different versions of the Focus

[@Monsterman0511]

Combustion engines for life. Nothing can replace a beautiful exhaust note.

[@henlo1910]

The no true scotsman fallacy argument is in itself fallacious when being used to connect two things where the only thing in common is the name.

[@DEarls-ye9tz]

It's not the only thing in common, though. They're both fast, fun, powerful. Both the OG Mustang and the Mach E were totally new designs that challenged the times and were both met with skepticism. People forget, when the first Mustangs came out, they were kinda small. People thought they were girly. They weren't born a success, People warmed up to them and eventually loved them. The new pony ain't so different from the first. It'll probably be remembered fondly.

[@1CoLoRz2]

@@DEarls-ye9tz There is nothing unique about an electric suv that's fast. This doesn't challenge anything. A proper 2 door coupe retro-styled sports ev would have been though. But SUVs sell these days, so they jumped on that bandwagon instead. Essentially doing the opposite of what you said.

[@sumgaye5951]

@@DEarls-ye9tz uh mustangs were an over night success they sold millions in the first year

[@enfynet]

@@DEarls-ye9tz mustangs aren’t fast though. They’re cheap rwd coupes. Fast is a side effect of cheap. This isn’t any of those things.

[@DEarls-ye9tz]

@@enfynet @1CoLoRz2 Cry more

[@aaronbiro2652]

The Mustang Mach E is the Ford version of the Pontiac Aztec in 5 years.

[@kylehyde215CA]

They're going to get Bryan Cranston to drive it and trade it in for Chrysler?

[@styloroc2000]

so.... featured in a hit tv show and ironically badass?

[@johnnybgoode2333]

No it's not, it's not a good looking Mustang, but it's a good looking SUV. Kinda looks like a stretched out Porsche Cayenne

[@aaronbiro2652]

Johnny B Goode put your glasses on

[@aaronbiro2652]

styloroc2000 the point of the Aztec featured in Breaking Bad was to emphasize the complete hopelessness of the character driving it. Once his situation changed the Aztec was traded up to something better.

[@weirjf]

As a former mustang owner, I don't pander to the myth of performance; but the name carries all the prestige and weight of a rubber stamp granted to a toddler: the ink is uneven and lettering on the edges are faded outlines. Sure, you can squint at certain parts of the car and imagine what concept car parts bin they cobbled together the crossover from, but it's about as much of a mustang as my grandmother is a bicycle when she puts on roller skates.

[@sandman6088]

This is like when Porsche made an SUV but somehow way less cooler.

[@זהסודי-ה7מ]

The Cayenne was cool. This one is just shit

[@noneyabizz8337]

@@זהסודי-ה7מ nah, it's an abomination

[@_chan.burn.21_]

@@noneyabizz8337 Hey now, at least they didn't call it a 911 Cross. That's more or less the equivalent of what Ford did this.

[@nomoreheroes93]

This looks so much better, the Porsche looks famously awful. Only Americans could love the "McDonald's Porsche" Cayenne

[@insayn7995]

True lol

[@vincentgalli17]

If Ford wanted an electric mustang, then they should’ve made an electric mustang, not an ugly escape with a mustang badge on it

[@BadBlonde-CarHistory]

True

[@michaelh.1262]

@@mezzb publicity.

[@spiderjerusalem8284]

This car could be such a best seller if it was a next gen Ford Edge instead.

[@martytu20]

At least an electric coupe fills a niche that Tesla doesn’t.

[@DeathProof132]

Absolutely. Being an electric vehicle isn't even on the list of problems with the Mach-E.

[@Smasher-Devourer]

Its a ford Edge EV with pony badging. Its literally a crossover for rich soccer mom's who want to pretend they're cool around their soccer mom friends. Just to cleverly tell their friends: "I drive a Mustang" When it literally ticks ZERO boxes under the requisites to be a "Mustang". This is like taking a golf cart, and calling it an F150, even though it literally doesn't have a cargo area.

[@racermigs1]

I'm not American, and I'm not a muscle fan, but I think they should've just given it a different name. Calling this a Mustang is just as confusing as the Corolla crossover.

[@dusti7005]

I just learnt there's a corolla crossover

[@TheSetkon]

To be fair, the Corolla historically was a hatchback (even RWD), a coupe, a sedan and an estate wagon so it's not like jumping styles is something new for it... I don't know a lot about Mustangs, but all I've seen seem to be RWD coupés.

[@blueryxfalls7949]

Nah, corolla cross is fire yo

[@racermigs1]

@@blueryxfalls7949 I'm not saying it's bad, but it is confusing. Like @TheSetkon said, the Corolla has had many different body styles over the years, but a crossover is something I don't think anybody expected to have the Corolla name.

[@ErickC]

Or maybe the Corolla Tercel, a non-Corolla car. ;)

[@CyberSniper7]

I would honestly be completely happy with an electric Mustang, it just makes sense that they would do it. What I’m not happy about is the fact they made it a crossover. It’s not like there’s enough of them already too

[@tokenfinnishguy8714]

My dislike is not for the car. It has to do with the channel itself turning into a car show with nothing to do with "down to earth" commentary or cars, it's turning into overly complex flattery bordering on your average car ad or average car program shoveling the illusion of luxury down your throat with two hands.

[@rattlehead05]

Yeah, review more 20 year old hoopties!

[@CFlow375]

Thank you for summing up how I feel about this one. Entire thing, especially Roman's part felt like one of those promotional films from the 60's

[@superkillrobot]

I like that this review mirrored the car it self, it has the RCR badge and legacy, but what you're actually getting is Roman doing his best daffy duck asmr impression.

[@__.mzc.__5842]

Did chuckle

[@AP-lh1bq]

Harsh, but fair.

[@JerzeyBoy]

I honestly believe that they could've called it a mercury cougar and you'd be fine. Hell they could've called it the Lincoln Mark-E and no one else would pay attention.

[@JK-uj9hs]

WingsofRedemption should get one of these. People ripped on him for having a V6 mustang lol.

[@andreanastacio9548]

Personally, my problem with the mustang mach-e isn`t that it`s an electric car, but that it`s a crossover... I don`t like crossovers. I think the 1st electric mustang would have gone over much better if they had atleast stuck to a low slung 2 door coupr body design

[@burdazza2711]

i reckon a 4 door would of been fine even. just call it falcon e or something

[@jayxj7785]

I'm sure a 2 door EV Mustang coupe is in the making but yeah unfortunately this Mach E is the "first" electric Mustang..🤦🏻‍♂️ Why didn't they name their first all electric vehicle the Model E?

[@DrewLSsix]

Fundamentally that would have been wrong. "Much better" must mean high sales because that's the goal here, but $50k mustang coupes don't sell in great numbers, the Mustang coupe only sells as well as it does because there's a range of cheaper 4 amd 6 cylinder options. It's pure delusion to think that your favorite niche car is somehow everybody's favorite also. As for the crossover, I'm a huge fan. It's a return to the "right way" to design cars, some time after WWII the manufacturers decided that practical usable cars that could go most places while carrying people and stuff was old hat. So their marketers started working on you to accept the idea of a low wide swooping coupe or sedan as the ideal, and we ended up with a few generations of cars that couldn't handle a slick muddy driveway letalone a rutted back road or light off reading. No, for that you had to buy another vehicle from them. A truck or suv that shockingly was a pretty piss poor road car. You got taken by the ad men, twice! Even though each pitch contradicted the last. A crossover is just a 1954 or older sedan/wagon with modern engineering, its got enough ground clearance for a world that's not 90% highways and suburbs and doesn't massage your prostate by suggesting that a mock race car is appropriate for either lol.

[@EmyrDerfel]

Calling it Model E wouldn't help sales. Model T and Model A are ancient history in car terms.

[@andreanastacio9548]

@@DrewLSsix infrastructure has evolved massively since the 40s and 50s... The vast majority of crossovers see next no no mud and truly poor terrain and, even if they did, I doubt the extra ground clearance would help that much if you`re still 2 wheel drive. (Most crossovers are generally just lifted hatchbacks, with the same underpinnings. Also modern SUVs are jokingly refered to as mall crawlers for a reason). You love crossovers for the utilility they add to a "normal" car, I dislike them because I find that the added ground clearance and body height doesn`t add that much, given compromize to weight, raised driving position (which I really dislike, but I know many prefer) and feeling of being connected to the road. Call me old fashioned, but at it`s core the mustang is, for better or worse, a "sports car", and the design convention for that is 2 door, low slung, and with a focus on driver enjoyment. The mach-e doesn`t adhere to the sports car formula (except maybe the driver enjoyment), and I as far as I am aware, that`s the reason for the backlash. They chose to call it a mustang, not because they deem it a worthy successor to the name, but because the name is among the most recognised "brands" in the entire industry, and will sell, and that annoys me, even though I am far from the biggest fan of mustangs, and would almost always have a camaro instead

[@PapaFujiwara]

Imagine having to constantly hype and convince people that this is a "real" mustang. They should have called it something else.

[@ChrisMolyneaux93]

Just call it the Mach-E. It’s not hard.

[@DingusDungus]

If they didn't attach the "mustang" name to it, nobody would even notice it.

[@RoughNek72]

I think I could have had much better reception if they called it anything else other than mustang.

[@darkworlddenizen]

It's the Caitlyn Jenner of vehicles.

[@PapaFujiwara]

@@RoughNek72 honestly, could have could have called it the ford cheddar and I don't think anyone would care.

[@yourmango461]

If this is mustang, then I'm Tom Cruise.

[@PhilipKaskela]

Hi tom

[@catinthehat5140]

Mr Cruise. Can we talk about the new Top Gun? Some fans think it's an insult to a heritage.

[@corbingreiner9879]

EV's they all can beat your combustion cars to a charging station. Then you get an hour head start.

[@RJVentura1]

30min at 80% at lvl3 charging, lvl4 will charge 80% in only 5minutes in the near future.

[@corbingreiner9879]

@@RJVentura1 How do you watch a Regular car guy video with out a sense of humor?

[@RJVentura1]

@@corbingreiner9879 im dead inside.

[@DeadBaron]

@@RJVentura1 in cities. In states like Maine if you leave the interstate with an EV you're fucked, no charging stations across 95% of the state. Vs filling a gas tank in one minute and go further.

[@quillmaurer6563]

I find it interesting how people always talk about the comparison on long road trips, how gasoline cars have the upper hand. This is true, road trips in electric cars, while usually possible, will take somewhat longer. But the vast majority of driving most people do isn't road trips, it's around town. The vast majority of trips are within the vehicle's range, meaning they just charge it up in the garage every night. This makes them better than gas cars, as you never have to go to a gas station, plus all the gas and maintenance costs it saves. A few people will do mostly road trips, and at least at the moment electric cars aren't as good for that purpose, but that's a small minority of people.