2022 Honda Civic Si vs Hyundai Elantra Nline, close but not close. Drag and Roll Race.

2022 Honda Civic Si vs Hyundai Elantra Nline, close but not close. Drag and Roll Race.

[@DeeTofa]

I was literally looking for a video of these two cars drag racing last night. You have granted my wish once again!

[@tresoritama9803]

Same here😅

[@mrjfox1000]

Same here lol

[@bubbles1525_]

Lol why nothing special at all about these cars

[@mrjfox1000]

It's nothing special about playing videos games either but you do right lol ?

[@bubbles1525_]

@@mrjfox1000 not the samething at all, some games are special depending on the writing lol its more similar with waisting your time on shitty videogames. when that civic is just a bit faster then a civic from the 90s something is wrong

[@automotivetv9861]

It's not just the DCT, it's also the additional 2 or so gears which helped on the roll. If one of the cars had a dct and lsd it would be a freak of nature.

[@devn3813]

The Elantra N does

[@virtue946]

The EN has a DCT, eLSD, and about 90 more hp. Picked mine up about a month and a half ago and it’s a blast.

[@devn3813]

@@virtue946 mine is supposed to come in less than two weeks from now. I hope it is powerful enough

[@virtue946]

@@devn3813 it depends on what you’re expecting. If you’re comparing it to cars it’s mechanically similar with, I think it’s as good as you can get. If you’re comparing it strictly by price, with the V8 pony cars, used stuff, etc, it doesn’t quite stack up in a straight line. But then again it isn’t meant to.

[@devn3813]

@@virtue946 yeah I was only considering knew and I wanted something with good tech and good gas mileage still. I figured in this market a new v8 car is going to cost nearly $50,000 and isn’t going to be as much of a daily

[@claysonwebster1622]

Everybody crying that they want manual transmission but they don't know how to shift properly😒😒

[@oemj7147]

Well, there is a difference between driving a manual around town for pleasure and being proficient when racing one. Not everybody is Dominic Toretto.

[@aluisious]

You cannot shift faster than a DCT.

[@MegaVoisey]

You cannot shift faster than a DCT. It’s impossible, even for a pro racer.

[@Rellsrides]

@@copperkeyracing6167 dct shift in 8 milliseconds u goofy

[@Rellsrides]

@@copperkeyracing6167 Roblox playing ass don’t even got a car

[@ryanm9628]

I just bought a Kona N. Never thought I would buy a Hyundai, but I love it thus far.

[@dnegel9546]

I'm thinking I may get one. But then I can also get a used stinger for same price... Ugh decisions 😅

[@ryanm9628]

@@dnegel9546 test drive both. The N products are fun cars to drive. I almost got a Stinger, but the Kona N had me sold.

[@dnegel9546]

@@ryanm9628 what turned you off about the stinger? I want the Kona because it seems like it would be easier to park. And more importantly easier to fix up once it gets old. Since parts are everywhere. The stinger tho I think will be horrible to own long term. Similar to owning a G8 GXP, CHEVY SS.

[@ryanm9628]

@@dnegel9546 Nothing really? It’s a great car. I think it just comes down to personal preference. It’s a win win regardless of vehicle you choose. Gas mileage is a little better with the Kona N too.

[@VG22.]

the hyundai dude wasn't actually launching it properly... Seems like he had his traction control on and stability control on. I have the same car and when I launch my Nline i get a bit of wheelspin every time and the thing pulls hard for a 1.6 turbo

[@jstreampc5132]

my 2021 kia forte gt dct sedan (US version) wheelspin even with tc and sc on. i replace my tires almost every regular service visit. i believe it's more dramatic than the elantra n-line and civic Si. best exhaust sound in the affordable compact car segment!

[@Vaylkin]

Yep. different animal with no trac on. I also own Nline. I mentioned in a prev vid about the traction control. it makes a world of difference

[@VG22.]

@@Vaylkin exactly .... he shouldve held the traction control button for about 3-4 seconds to defeat the traction and stability control

[@danieln.9638]

After seeing someone post a 0-60 of over 7 seconds in his N Line, without complaining about wheelspin (wheel hop, really), I gave mine a go. TC off, sport mode, S1, no driving/lane keep nonsense. It absolutely shredded through first (no hop!), went into second and spun a tad before it somehow wheelhopped. I let off and looked at my speed. I was pretty surprised, but confused about how quick I could've been going when it wheel hopped. (figuring a quick 1-2 shift would be OK, I did not expect to be doing over 50 so quickly, let alone no wheel hop until it goes into second? Fun car but wheel hop is so bad in these things) Takeaways: The N Line is underrated. The stock tires on the US-version DCT are stupid. The car is way fun with everything turned off, and would probably be absolutely incredible with an LSD and some nice engine mounts to stop that damn wheel hop

[@Vaylkin]

@@danieln.9638 its all in the tires for sure. I instantly as part of the deal took Brealin Ultra light rims wrapped in BF Goodrich GForce Pro Comp 2's. The only time i have ever experienced wheel hop without these tires on was when i put on my winter tires. Once you get some good rubber under you i bet you will have a different story to tell later =)

[@williambellisIII]

Love the Red Bull-Honda F1 jacket. Wish Honda would have stayed fully committed.

[@zz3863]

In my opinion, with nowadays tech manual transmission is no more quick than automatic because computer is far more quick than your hands and reaction

[@M2fiftycal]

That's not a recent thing, it's been that way for a while

[@aluisious]

Obvious Facts for $400, Alex.

[@Striker50_]

A manual is EXTREMELY inferior to an auto or even a CVT

[@mazzdickaanantama1574]

Yes,u right transmission automatic to used computer for shifting with ECU order is more quick

[@fsdude77]

@@Striker50_ actually from a performance vehicle standpoint, CVT is inferior. There a reason why many higher performance vehicles avoid using CVT. Nissan uses CVT heavily in almost all their vehicles....except the Z and GTR cars.

[@Ch1797]

It’s crazy how we’ve come to a time where an si gets clapped by an Elantra. Hopefully Honda knows that they’re getting gapped not only in the 1/4 mile but in customers as well. I’ve never seen so many damn Kia’s and Hyundais. They need to make a change next generation and bump up the power a bit imo. If the civic is already losing to the Elantra, I can’t even imagine how bad the integra would compare. Same engine, bigger and heavier car.

[@axware7553]

Dude it’s an automatic vs manual lmao. Race That civic on a track

[@neometalx9]

Well, the Civic SI doesn't have a automatic option to compare..

[@antonisssbtw400]

Honestly Honda could do a 2.0t like the one in the accord but idk it’s so stupid that they don’t

[@Ch1797]

@@neometalx9 yeah i get that but even on the roll there's no chance even with an auto that the civic catches up.

[@Ch1797]

@@axware7553 yeah i get that but even on the roll there's no chance even with an auto that the civic catches up.

[@nighthawk0077]

Good job with this video. Very clear and concise intro, and good race footage (cutting out a lot of dead air where nothing was happening) we used to see before.

[@Jambassador]

I've watched this video 3 times. As someone who was vascillating between the SI and the N-Line for a while-- it's so satisfying to watch the N-Line take the cake in a drag and roll. The SI is a fun car to drive, but the DCT, the much better interior, and the tech you get for the N-line make it a better value by far-- especially because the N-line is really easy to get at MSRP, whereas every single civic SI dealer I've seen across the country marks it up quite a bit to the point where you're paying thousands more for less performance and less tech. I've always been a Honda fanboy, but Hyundai has stolen my heart with the major strides they've made in the past few years. And I'm not going to debate reliablity-- as I'll get rid of my car in 3-5 years, so I'm not looking for a car to last me past 250k miles or something.

[@nolan-dr9te]

ive found that the dealers mark up less the farther away from a big city you are in have a 2024 model on order with no markups and have an option to take off the dealer accessories. Just gotta know where to look

[@vincentvagianow-mm1tw]

Bro trust ive gotten the 2023 Hyundai Elantra N line it's obviously not the quickest of cars but for a Hyundai and compare to your basic daily drivers shit hauls ass for a 4 cylinder at that I love it a fun fast family friendly car

[@Jambassador]

@@vincentvagianow-mm1tw yeah I agree, I've owned my Elantra N Line for 5 months now and I've been loving every minute of it. The perfect daily driver with just enough pep in it for me 😎🤘

[@wakaisenshiclips7465]

The si would've won if shifted properly. I've raced n lines and elantra n's . Barely lost to the N

[@youcangetsum6871]

@@wakaisenshiclips7465if you raced an N in the si he wasn’t even trying lol the si is just slow.

[@wbwayne8887]

😢....when I see the Canadian market Si, with all the amenities, in comparison to the decontented US market car. You guys are so lucky.

[@aehmerchant]

Not sure why people in the comments are knocking the SI so much. Yes the Elantra N line and also the Forte GT are great cars but this was not a manual to manual comparison. Also, I would love to see a track run comparison to determine which one has the best over all performance. 1/4 mile run is a small part of the performance test.

[@slickdaddycc7506]

It sure is but for some reason that’s all that matters to people, who can go faster in a strait line. Both cars are pretty cool tho

[@DQ333]

@@slickdaddycc7506 It's all perspective I guess. 99% of people that watch these comparison vids do not go out on track; they don't really care about lap times as they cannot bring that performance to actual road use. There are other factors that are required to paint the whole picture of a car that are omitted from these vids - drivetrain, ride quality, features, reliability etc.

[@pss0520]

Its because a lot of the videos of the SI are making it look like it is a direct competitor the the ENs VNs GTi Wrx, It is not. The closest competitor is this.

[@lanesworld4000]

Great car 🚗 Too expensive! $32-34k US. Fail. 😲

[@lanesworld4000]

@@DQ333 Price. Civic Si is pretty awesome, but expensive. $32k US or more!

[@jraheemjefcoat429]

I know the Honda fanboys are BIG MAD right now. There's no way to justify this defeat, besides the fact the Elantra has a DCT only for the Canadian market. It would be nice to see a manual Elantra in this race for a fair comparison. But overall, I'm very impressed what Hyundai is doing with their brand.

[@barry7816]

Nah, not really mad at all as a Honda fanboy. New Honda’s just aren’t what they use to be. This 11th Gen has less power than the previous Gen which is pathetic. They went backwards. That’s why I swapped over to the Mazda3 2.5T. Hyundai & Kia has stepped up their game and I’m happy for them.

[@f181234]

It’s pretty obvious a Manual transmission will never beat a DCT

[@duszy2602]

It’s a 1.5t. Not fast stock. But very fast tuned

[@giancarlolugo9586]

@@duszy2602 Honda should make a N/A version of the K20C, from the FK8 and fit into this new Civic quicker and more reliable.

[@IsaacJacob6]

I know this comment is old but i was choosing between the elantra N and the 11th gen si and every time i was telling them all the cool features about the new Hyundai its always ends with “ya thats cool but its still a Hyundai” every time. So you can say the choice was obvious.

[@gagep7539]

Absolutely love my 2022 n line, perfect car nice change from the power I got from my 2016 ats I had before I traded. Beyond happy with this car!

[@official_commanderhale965]

I had a 2021 Kia K5 GT-Line and despite the looks, it's terrible for power. Now I have the 22 Elantra N. Thing is a beast.

[@gagep7539]

@@official_commanderhale965 the only downside I have found out about my nline is the transmission, it absolutely hates the stop and go traffic and is a bit inconsistent off the start. But it LOVES to cruise on the interstate and it sounds great doing it

[@mharro88]

@@official_commanderhale965 it's not terrible at all. Unless you want to consistently speed or take to the track why bother.

[@official_commanderhale965]

@@mharro88 lol constantly speed or being stuck behind a farm tractor going 15 mph because I can’t zip around it that easily? Lol Does the boost in speed feel awesome? Yes. Does it bother me that I can still get 40mpg? No. It’s an overall better car to me as a young guy with no kids.🤷🏻‍♂️

[@mharro88]

@@official_commanderhale965 you can't zip around a tractor in something with 200+HP and 150KW? Huh? I would have kept the k5 myself. More refined each to their own

[@wackit6756]

Ugh! That rev hang makes me cringe on every shift.

[@larryfishkind5387]

Agreed .. the only way to fix it is purchasing a tune like ktuner. Night and day difference

[@icasualyt8875]

Agree, It’s bogs down acceleration a bit

[@barsaf9989]

Hondata

[@jumpercable20]

After 54 years of driving from most of the muscle cars of the late 60's and early 70's to the gas saving 4 cylinders of today. I once bought a 98 Honda Civic with a 112 horse (guessing) 4 banger that had a manual transmission. I learned that cars that are low on power and grunt are much more fun to drive with a manual. I always thought of it like this, take for example a Ford Escort with a manual and one with an automatic. Put them beside each other and race, the manual is much more entertaining to drive because you decide how far you want to wind the engine before the next gear change. A one hundred horsepower motor with the A/C on and an automatic transmission would be a slug off the line while the same car with a manual may not be that much faster, it will definitely bring more smiles than the auto gear box. I've owned an estimated 15 vehicles since I was 11 of them were manuals and 4 were automatics, when you decide when to shift it always brings a smile to your face unlike just stomping the go pedal and waiting for the thrust you'll never get. Out of all the manual gearbox cars I've owned, I've only replaced the clutch in two of them and when you know how to use a clutch correctly you don't burn them up. My clutches usually lasted over a hundred thousand miles. On one car the release bearing wore out while the clutch plate material had very little wear. I could replace a clutch in pretty much anything, automatics have just too many little, tiny balls, springs and are just too much for me to deal with, manuals don't have all of that, just a flywheel, pressure plate, clutch plate and release bearing. I've never had much faith in automatic transmissions, just not reliable and just too easy to burn up.

[@santi8751]

Can you get your hands on the new Kia Forte gt(201hp) to race against all other cars in its class such as Elantra N-line, and civic SI

[@juanm5407]

This would be a good comparison!

[@BikesandBriar]

And just think, the Acura Integra will have the same power train as the Si, and be heavier. 🤦‍♂️ What is Honda doing?

[@Eugen-E]

It will not have more than 100lb extra, so...quite the same weight. Put a K-Tuner ond it and adios Elantra N Line.

[@blooddrunk1432]

@@Eugen-E how about we tune the elantra too ??? You dont make any sens lmao

[@Eugen-E]

@@blooddrunk1432 Engine from Elantra does not have the same tuning potential 🙂, is not as fuel efficient and the DCT is problematic. Honda was, is and will be better.

[@Frank-hg9rl]

@@Eugen-E What are you talking about? Just by adding the Gts race chip to the 1.6T, Hyundai or Kia, you add 45hp and 80 pft....That's just one of the many possibility, the less complicated...for 500.00$

[@Eugen-E]

@@Frank-hg9rl Check MAPerformance. 45hp ? Go home, you're drunk.

[@asdpoi121]

That intro blending vehicle bodied into the music was spot on man !

[@Intentionally_Inflammatory]

My 2023 N-Line has been amazing in almost every way... My only gripe is that it won't downshift to first gear if you're going above ~10mph.

[@hyperionwarrior1958]

Mine won’t downshift unless below 15 but if you keep hitting the downshift paddle it will

[@nastynate9529]

first manual car? That is literally any manual car. Don't downshift into first gear? Like pretty much ever. Its a low gear and not synchronized either. You will break it. Cheers

[@reyfuentes4572]

​@@nastynate9529 his car is DCT...and no almost all 99.9 manuals modern cars have a synchronized 1st gear...but still a straight cut reverse gears

[@kuseiii_3845]

its to protect the gear, the 2017-19 elantra sport DCT would be iffy if you downshifted to first it got super jerky so i guess thats how they combatted that

[@Intentionally_Inflammatory]

Update: I figured out that it will in fact downshift to 1st gear at up to 20mph, IF you let completely off the accelerator first. My favorite thing to do now is get up to 15mph in 2nd gear, let off the gas, drop to first, and punch it. 🏎️💨

[@JoseLopez-hf9cz]

The SI needs a better driver

[@Em1Kevin]

terrible driver. Anyone that thinks auto is better, needs to stick to auto. dct proved it was better. lol i shifter as fast as i could. smh

[@rak7398]

exactly

[@onestophobbyspot9350]

that was some good shifting and he was power shifting, si couldint be any faster, the hyundai is better

[@JoseLopez-hf9cz]

@@onestophobbyspot9350 if you think that was good then you are part of the problem anybody that drag race know that was trash 🗑

[@yousef.al-assaf]

@@Em1Kevin Are you saying that manual is better than modern auto in drag racing?

[@GlennLaycock]

Civic SI in Canada is $4000 (add tax to that) more; and that is with the Manual vs DCT. Also, it is $1400 (again add tax to that) more to upgrade the Civic to the same warranty as the Elantra. So they are competitors, but certainly not on price with the Civic close to having a 20% higher price.

[@Hobbyauto15]

That’s why I love my WRX 2021, Sam...all manual, with 0 automatic stuff on it. Not to be a super fast car, but because it’s fun! Nothing against more automatic and electronic cars, but I still love be more in contact with the car! Thanks for one more very nice video! Cheers!

[@shameerawais]

Race Starts At 4:02

[@MultiChimRichalds]

Not all heroes wear capes..

[@sirprince888]

Excellent video, Sam! Thank you for doing this friendly face-off. The Honda Civic Si is still a great car. However, I think this video demonstrates and really puts a "nail to the coffin" that the Hyundai Elantra N-Line is the best vehicle in its class. The Civic Si has the LSD and thought it would make the biggest impact. I'm surprised. I'm very surprised. I suspect if Canada had the Elantra N-Line in manual transmission and you were to do the face-off between manual vs manual transmission, I think it would be a much closer race. However, I bet that the Hyundai Elantra N-Line would slightly pull ahead as it looks like it has better torque and pulls a bit stronger at higher RPM. I have the Elantra N-Line in manual transmission as it is available here in the US. I love it and it is my first Hyundai purchase. Again, thank you for adding this vehicle to your awesome channel. Watching this video just confirms, for me, that I made a great choice in my car purchase; performance on a budget. For best in class under $30k, Hyundai Elantra N-Line WINS. Elantra N-Line is priced around $25k with 10yr/100k warranty. Nevertheless, both are great vehicles.

[@shivamarya5225]

what is there to be surprised about, lsd only helps at launch after that its up to the gear ratios and shifting. But the reason LSD is so sought after is that it helps in corners, it is important especially in fwd cars, so civic takes the win for me in handling and fun factor due to manual trans and LSD

[@BrownSofaGamer]

Manual to manual the Civic would win probably, the only reason it was getting caught was the DCT because it makes a huge difference. Honda claimed no power bump, for the new generation Civic but the power curve is way better, and manual to manual the old Civic Si is faster than a N-Line Elantra. Also the LSD means the Civic would eat the Hyundai around any corners because of the LSD traction.

[@wbwayne8887]

Great decision to buy the Elantra N-Line, but I would argue that it's platform mate, the Kia Forte GT is an even better value, and includes things the N-Line doesn't offer, like LED headlights. I would love to see the Forte GT vs the Elantra N-Line on this channel. #savethemanual

[@kamran6998]

nice drag sam. i just dont like new hyundai's faces. i believe the old ones have a better looks.

[@Supedsauce.]

The messed up part is the 2019 sonata is the 2017-2018 Elantra body

[@geralt36]

Finally someone said it. I thought I was the only one who felt that way.

[@VanillaWahlberg]

A 17/18 Elantra Sport body with the N powertrain would be LOVE.

[@CurtissB]

@@VanillaWahlberg if it makes u feel better theres the i20 N with a 201hp 1.6t. i got a mate that likes to think they are the same and i dont agree or disagree cause i havent driven the elantra

[@VanillaWahlberg]

@@CurtissB i20 is n-line equivalent. 1.6L turbo 201hp/195tq. My 2017 Elantra Sport has the same gamma engine. The N cars are 2.0L Turbos that make roughly 275 hp stock. Totally different :)

[@stockey]

Please Elantra N DCT vs Type R.

[@buildmorefarms1007]

I have the Elantra N line with a manual, it is surprisingly quick! Lots of torque! The Si costs thousands more but you get less performance.

[@MarckAT]

LETS GO SONOTA N!

[@Greeneggsandham3]

Less performance lol. Better build quality and parts in every dept inside and out and historically way more reliable plus all the aftermarket support? I'll take the si.

[@nartin86]

Where do you get the idea that the SI cost thousands more? On the websites, the SI starts at 27k and Elantra N starts at 32k. It seems the opposite.

[@buildmorefarms1007]

@@nartin86 The Elantra N line is 25-26 k, it has 201 hp and competes with the Civic Si...the full blown Elantra N is 32k and competes with the Civic Type R.

[@buildmorefarms1007]

@@Greeneggsandham3 The Civic Si 1.5 turbo has oil dilution issues, not good.

[@SilverScarletSpider]

Would love to see Hyundai Elantra N-Line vs Kia Forte GT. Winner races Honda Civic Si

[@pss0520]

Now for all the other "auto reviewers" out there that is still trying so hard to hype up the 22 Civic Si and match it against the New BRZ/GR86, GTi, WRX, Elantra N etc as its main "competitor" watch this! It cant even beat this N-Line. Smh. Do something like this first before making all the assumptions. BTW this civic has 200whp stock at dyno.

[@daphenom45]

That's because those people take thier cars to a proper track, and don't do stupid psuedo racing like highways pulls

[@pss0520]

@@daphenom45 doesnt matter, they should know that this Si is not in the same category as the other cars they trying to put it as. Thats why the price on this Si is thru the roof. I mean the Si is great, Id want one, but to overhype it and put it as a competitor to cars above it category is bs. You think itll beat the N, WRX etc on track? Hell no bro.😅

[@Nitek09Z]

Already is.. Si is top tier auto X and it's even beating type R depending on drivers. Full circuit it's behind on power but you don't realize what handling does for actual racing, the elantra is not even close.

[@lanesworld4000]

@@Nitek09Z Not really fair to compare to N-line. It's 25k, manual. Civic Si is pretty awesome, but it's $32k or more. That's a big price gap!

[@daphenom45]

@@pss0520 hate to bust your victory lap but a 2017 Si is faster than the 2015 WRX in C&D lighting lap. WRX understeers greatly, again don't expect much "car" people to know that while sitting in parking lots and doing donuts in intersections.

[@MrGunzngirlz]

Yes! Shifting like your life depends on it!

[@fry.master]

still slow shifts tho chief hes letting the clutch out wayyy too late...

[@MrGunzngirlz]

@@fry.master it'd be really difficult to outshift a dct, he got it taken care of on that second race. But sure, there's always someone who could shift faster.

[@fry.master]

@@MrGunzngirlz ofc ofc and these are new cars, potentially someone watching the video’s cars, so can’t go full force I guess. I’d love to see someone properly bang it through the gears tuned, though

[@Frank-hg9rl]

@@MrGunzngirlz And driving that hard, you'll be ending with some gaz in the oil......like many experimented with the 1.5T

[@sirprince888]

Just noticed the Elantra N-Line was running with winter tires in this face off. Pause the video @ 0:29. Interesting. Based on a different video from Sam, it looks like the Si was also running with winter tires, too?

[@gunzorkgaming7847]

OMG thanks for this haha... I have one and I can't even stick to real dry surface when I accelerate with winter tire...

[@ericespejo8835]

If I remember correctly the DCT Nline comes with winters standard and the manual comes with summers.

[@sirprince888]

@@ericespejo8835 In US, DCT comes standard with all-season tires. Manual transmission comes equipped with summer tires. Might be different for Canada?

[@BrianParuch]

I love my elantra. It's only a 2020 preferred but I smoke a lot of civics. I want to see the Sanata in line though or is it too much of a diff?

[@superdoesings2416]

The Sonata N line would be too big a difference vs the SI. 90 more horsepower, much more torque, plus a more sophisticated powertrain

[@shrijanaryal4923]

The design on that elantra is so futuristic 😍😍

[@applepoop10]

Sure, but they are still uninspired to drive.

[@thatreviewguy6109]

@@applepoop10 have you driven a elantra n?

[@keoki777]

@@applepoop10 Take it easy there... Not everyone has the means to purchase a race car.

[@danieln.9638]

They are! They come with the door dent integrated into the design! sarcasm aside, they are interesting looking

[@shrijanaryal4923]

@@applepoop10 don't be a hater guys. Y'all might be Honda fans but why would you hate on well engineered piece of automobiles lol. Both are awesome cars and thanks both Honda and Hyundai for making these.

[@flightman7594]

Can you do an IS350 f sport vs a Kia stinger? Or g70

[@closg9309]

A 3.3t Stinger and G70? I’m a current owner of 2020 G70 3.3t, my previous car 2017 IS350. Performance is not even close. 3.3t is MUCH faster

[@jstreampc5132]

the new base stinger 2.5t would smoke the is350. i think the g70 is still using the 2.0t. the is350 might smoke it.

[@flightman7594]

@@closg9309 trust me I know. I just want to see g70 or stinger kick that is350 ass

[@GreyMK7Jet]

We need someone from the U.S to get their ass up to Canada and make the 6Speed face off possible!

[@Jambiswag]

You don't need to redline these small stock turbo cars all the torque is at low rpms. The dsg shifts when it's supposed to

[@jstreampc5132]

the elantra dct actually weighs over 3,000lbs and honda underrates the civic's power output by like 30 horses (around 230bhp). so, i'm more impress with the elantra. even though it was slower out of the hole, it caught and pass the civic. plus, it won the roll race.

[@ProdByAce]

the stock 11 gen dynoed at 207 whp

[@jstreampc5132]

i think manual turbo economy cars with around 200hp are slow until you add an auto trans to them. while it's the opposite for NA cars. you need to make the right transmission that will best suit the engine. So, turbo economy cars work well with auto trans. while, naturally aspirated economy cars work well with manuals.

[@Frank-hg9rl]

@@jstreampc5132 Auto transmission ? You're not thinking cvt i hope? DCT is always faster....you're right. Could you imagine that the new Integra will have a cvt...What a shame..👎🤮

[@jstreampc5132]

@@Frank-hg9rl In terms of acceleration, sad to say, a cvt civic Si would be faster than a manual. The regular 1.5t from the 10th gen was faster with a cvt than a manual. That’s what Honda offers (cvt) so that’s what I’ll say. If Honda offered the 8-9gens NA with auto, they wouldn’t be as fast compared to a manual. The NA accord was faster with a manual than the auto. Miata is faster with manual. The NA Gr86 or brz Is faster with a manual than and auto. Elantra n line, forte gt, gt I, gli (all turbos) are faster with autos

[@Frank-hg9rl]

@@jstreampc5132 In my book, you can't put cvt and sport in the same phrase👎👎👎It sound like a freeking snowmobile !!!🌨☃️

[@gipsyavenger9829]

STATE THE OBVIOUS: Most manuals will NOT beat a modern auto trans.

[@nathanpickering6742]

Man the 2025 N line looks so much better then this one. Glad they did the face lift in 2024. Just got my 2025 N line Dct and it looks really good in person and feels amazing to drive.

[@SilverScarletSpider]

The Honda Civic Si needs to offer a 10 speed automatic option or a DCT for non manual driving car buyers if they want to stay competitive in sales against the DCT Volkswagon Jetta GLi, Kia Forte GT, and Hyundai Elantra N-Line. The “manual-only” enthusiast mindset is clearly losing them marketshare. Don’t even try to bring up the CVT Acura Integra because that’s just an $5000 overpriced Civic Si Hatchback.

[@In-obscurity-n7j]

The clear winner here. Unequivocally would be Sam. Determined by fun factor alone.

[@priapicpear4200]

Wow this one was a bit of a shocker. Hyundai did right by poaching the BMW guy.

[@Razzman70]

I'm curious as to how a 6 speed Elantra N-Line would fair. I have a 21 with a 6 Speed manual, and I absolutely love the thing.

[@1pt21gw]

It'll be a bummer when the Elantra n-line is walking the new Integra. The Elantra N would absolutely destroy it.

[@CurtissB]

yeah extra 75hp in the N. a bit slower than type R but looks and sounds awesome. id probably take the type r hahah

[@f181234]

That’s the base Integra not the Type S

[@mharro88]

@@CurtissB it beats the type r on track easy

[@skinnyg190]

Civics weighs 3k pounds now? If they're going to continue making their cars heavier why won't they make them more powerful to compensate? We've been at the 200hp mark since the introduction of the k20.

[@waynemangan7200]

My k20 fa5 weighs 2974 wet, but yeah the new s I would be fine at 24k. 32k ripoff.

[@jacobpearson4353]

So who won race 2?

[@nerminmehinagic2702]

Next time use Acura ilx with dct vs Hyundai to see what is going to happen

[@chrismcclure6438]

Watching the beginning ads right now but I’m calling it SI loses, reason I say this is because the 11th gen civics have been slower than last generation all across the board despite using the same powertrain

[@swisschoco25]

It will be interesting to see how the new Integra handles the Elantra N and even the Si .

[@alexandercalderon7098]

From what I've read the si has the same motor as the Integra

[@brandenelkins2923]

The N will smoke that integra.

[@saltzen961]

He wasn't just beating you on the shifts , he was walking away on steady acceleration , and was able to run you down at will .

[@larryfishkind5387]

Im surprised with the results here Honda should be ashamed of their selves that five extra horsepower they took away made it so the elantra n takes the win I feel like the 10th GEN si would’ve definitely won against both of these. The Dct transmission obviously is the Elantras winning card ..

[@SamCarLegion]

Even manual I think N would win

[@ericdrobnick1942]

Everyone is getting worked up that the Si lost but when has the Si ever been made for straight line races? The Si has always been an affordable canyon carver. The Si will always have more character and be fun to drive over the Elantra for sure so I'm not too concerned about this.

[@larryfishkind5387]

@@ericdrobnick1942 yes it’s a great car, I agree it always has been the handling performance has been improved over the years for sure ! .. I’ve had three different generations Honda Civic SI I could very Confidently tell you there is a noticeable power loss this generation aside from that yes all is great

[@micway71]

@@SamCarLegion agreed!! I wanted a manual in mine. But if I can learn something new about the DCT, might be glad I got it.

[@mharro88]

@@ericdrobnick1942 Ah yeah it's not. I've driven both and the Elantra n-line is more refined and fun to drive

[@P9rkour90]

I’m telling ya I gotta buy the Elantra

[@Nitek09Z]

This new Si is really proving itself in auto X as a top tier pick and depending on driver besting many type R and more. It obviously is down on power for full circuit tracks but my 22 Si with dp/fmic and e30 tune is already much faster than any eleantra besides the N.

[@donnywilderness]

I have 22 si as well what Is fmic?

[@Nitek09Z]

@@donnywilderness front mount intercooler. I have PRL downpipe/frontpipe/intercooler/flexfuel kit/ktuner 21 psi e30 tune/whiteline rear sway bar/tein s tech springs/18x9.5 SSR gtx01 wheels/ 255/35r18 continental extreme contact sport tires.

[@teamhyperplasia1368]

Well not that True, I have a tune and intake on my n line. 0-100kph in 5.7s.

[@Nitek09Z]

@@teamhyperplasia1368 while the elantra does have a few options for aftermarket support the civic has endless upgrade parts, tuners and the aftermarket is huge. There are 10 second 10th gen (1.5t) civic Si something that the N line and even the fully fledged N just won't accomplish. And that's just talking quarter mile. When it comes to actual racing it's just not even close.

[@teamhyperplasia1368]

@@Nitek09Z I wasnt talking about full race car, civic and elantra are normal car. I was just saying for normal car (daily driver) I like more the performance of the n line. While getting 5.8 l/100km beating it.

[@MrTurboRotary]

Good video but to me, victory to the Hyundai as expected

[@MrYeashkark]

Lets get the Nline vs a Audi A3 the 2022 model... it is 200hp also and a DCT

[@lonefgc4508]

Hyundai/Kia please reveal a nice looking “affordable” sporty EV sedan or hatchback soon.

[@Kevin-xz4jq]

Exactly. I want an EV gti/si style hatchback so bad.

[@ThisGuyRides]

@@Kevin-xz4jq Kona EV is basically a hatchback, just needs the N version

[@BrownSofaGamer]

@@Kevin-xz4jq They make the Golf GTE in Europe which is a hybrid GTI essentially. It’d be great if we could see that come to the States.

[@OlJackBurton]

Ioniq 3. I don't know about affordable, but it should be around $30ish K after tax credits. Also Hyundai is considering leasing the batteries like Nio does in China and that could lower the price by over another $5k...

[@based5738]

100k and going keep up the content 💯

[@slipknotron1626]

Sweet, great match up. I would to pick up the new si for a daily fun car with my maverick 👍👍👍

[@SamCarLegion]

Great match

[@jrw1662]

Japanese fan boys will hate this video

[@elchido3517]

I am a honda fan, but im curious of trying a new make, if going to Acura or Hyundai🤔

[@joem6189]

I had a feeling the Nline was going to win. Also, did the drive use the boost button?

[@danieln.9638]

...boost button, as in the "N Grin Shift" button the Elantra N's have? The N Line doesn't have this button. Though there is a way to get the N Line to get moving a bit better than what the video shows, it's through the traction control button rather than anything to do with boost.

[@micway71]

@@danieln.9638 I keep seeing this, but how??? Place in sport mode and take traction control off? What am I missing??? This may make me think more highly of my N-line with DCT…….

[@NeverlandRancher]

This is a better comparison. People were comparing the Si to the (full) N and it’s not even close. The Elantra N is a beast more in line with the Civic Type R. The N-line is a close competitor.

[@miguelsarmiento542]

Can you make a video of the Forte gt against these two!! It has about the same hp as the Honda I think

[@tricarbonate5619]

I would say yes (I have a Forte GT) but honestly, the Elantra Nline is basically the same car.

[@NaijaBull]

Interesting results here. You did a race between the previous generation Civic Si against the Nline and the Jetta GLI, and another one against the Nline and Mazda 3 Turbo. The previous generation Civic Si came in 2nd in both races beating out the Nline, behind the Mazda and Jetta. Is this new generation Civic Si that much slower than the previous one it replaces?

[@chrismcclure6438]

Yes. The non si civics of the 10th gen are quicker than the current gen SI

[@sportsmansparadice42]

Honda druver..You need learn how to speed shift.

[@btchidz]

Why doesn’t anyone race the Kia Forte GT?

[@Saturdayz_In_The_Fall]

Civic is selling so strong the manufacturer simply cannot keep up with its demand. These are are on back order all the way up to September for some locations

[@applepoop10]

An old Acura RSX Type-S also makes 200 HP and it’s way more fun to drive. I don’t know why Honda doesn’t just slap in a Turbo K24 into the Civic Si.

[@mateogarcia1207]

K series is for the type r, and it gets a turbo K series (although not a K24)

[@ivanfredoo5863]

That's because the last si's were the 8th gens

[@waynemangan7200]

@@ivanfredoo5863 Amen. 8thgen peak Honda. I may die with mine. If I could spend 24k for exactly the same car new. Id do it tomorrow. Never driven anything else that feels as perfect and tactile in every dynamic

[@SkylineFinesse]

I gapped my friends 04 rsx type s im stock and he’s modified with k tuner full exhaust etc. yall on too much copeamine

[@godzilla7391]

I have a 2023 Elantra N DCT and she is quick. Would give my Genesis coupe 3.8 (Intake, headers, exhaust) a run for the money, especially since my Genesis is manual. I wonder how good the 1.6 N-Line is on the track?

[@rebelliousgoat1557]

Elantra N vs Type R next.

[@stevendeleon3836]

Type R vs a DCT N the elantra wins

[@roccodifranco7866]

So tru we used to shift big block Chevy and fords and we had to be fast , but today most people don’t have a clue , plus my Kia forte DCT shifts faster than I can ever do

[@moonsapling]

That 7DCT of Hyundai is such an underrated transmission!

[@neometalx9]

Great for short term use, but what about longevity and reliability down the line??

[@moonsapling]

@@neometalx9 I have 234 024 km on my Tucson as of today. I take it to light trails every weekend.

[@neometalx9]

@@moonsapling sounds great then... how many years old car?

[@Eugen-E]

@@moonsapling Previous Tucson had a lot of problems with 7DCT, even in Europe. Bad transmission.

[@moonsapling]

@@neometalx9 2017, I got it used. Transmission had a software update, smooth as silk

[@anthonylove6639]

Yep the zero time lag between gears makes a difference but the Elantra has a double sport mode with the 7spd DCT transmission. I don’t know if the Canadian version has that but my Elantra n line does. Makes a difference with you do that and paddle shift to rev limit. Plus some mild tuning. It’s kind of a rocket for a 1.6t. Even gives my bros 2022 Elantra N a hard time in N mode. I pull on him for at least 4 going into 5 gear from a dead stop. His is still all stock. My n line has a cold air intake, much better lubricant treatments better plugs not saying the type but not your typical plugs, downpipe custom made at a friends shop and intercooler co2 cool kit. Sixth element engine mount. Michelin cup tires. 😊mild tune.

[@aks6143]

Elantra looks so damn good

[@Slambreezy11]

LOOKS DEFORMED UGLY ASS CAR

[@pwally2714]

Honda really needs to step up their game. Losing to an Elantra? Civic is gaining weight but still 200 HP? Need 250 HP to get my eyes back on the product. Win for Hyundai. They have enthusiasts attention on the N.

[@goochigoochs3836]

What do you expect from DCT vs Manual with similar power and weight? Its like braking contest between one equipted with an ABS and the other without. However, as always good video presentation.

[@lalo599]

Love to see 2022 Civic Ex automatic V.S 2022 Civic SI Or stock 10th gen si vs 11th gen si !

[@Eugen-E]

Ososik did that race and the 11th beats the 10th at high speed acceleration.

[@lalo599]

@@Eugen-E just checked it out, will still like to see the 11th gen cvt vs Si see any difference

[@robthurman4584]

Hmmmm race 2 looks like Honda won till you see the very end footage. BAM all 3 runs go to N Line. Do you think the Honda logo on Sams vest affects his opinion ? lol. I traded my Veloster T at for the DCT N Line. Huge upgrade just love it.

[@4077661466jp]

Ok so how does the first race show Si get past in first 150ft or So but 2nd race Si leaves the hyundai by 2 cars or more almost the entire run only to show the hyundai cross the line a car length ahead of Si ? Which is the outcome Si is faster or hyundai ? Smh

[@lanesworld4000]

Civic Si is selling for $32-34k US or more. Civic Si is a Hellava car, but dang that's seriously expensive! Fail 😲

[@OlJackBurton]

At that price you can get a 6 speed Elantra N...

[@shawnz241]

10 years and 2 Civic's later the N Line has me switching.

[@johndoe3485]

Bro , why N-Line sucks from stop to launch? If you put pedal down from stop it feels like the wheels broken and like cant spin properly unless you let up on gas and take it slow gradual increase in gas. So does anyone else experience that? And so thats my only problem with N-Line. Is stop start it cant handle giving it pedal to the metal. It chugs and acts like you broke the whole suspension like it wont let the wheels burn out and probably spin. it feels like you completely ruined car suspension when you do this. So its hard to retrain yourself to not put pedal to metal and just go easy till you feel it go smooth start then gun it. But weird.

[@tqsuited]

I don't care about the speed, I still wouldn't be caught dead in a Hyundai. Hondas 4 life.

[@lordsknight4516]

New civic is garbage!

[@mharro88]

Lol the SI is a piece of shit and they want 7k more than the Elantra n-line premium here in Australia

[@jeffsiemens4485]

I’d still take the civic over the Elantra just purely based on styling. Elantra is just not a nice looking car.

[@ricardogutierrez722]

styling?? the civic is ugly af lol ... both ugly cars , i guess the civic is less ugly? ..

[@jeffsiemens4485]

@@ricardogutierrez722 I guess it’s in the eye of the beholder but I think the civic looks great.

[@ericespejo8835]

I have a 6spd Nline, super fun car to drive!

[@Blue-moon12]

Remember when autos used to be much slower than manuals.

[@jair2776]

Yep, I've just accepted the fact autos are quicker. But manuals are far more fun in daily driving.

[@Blue-moon12]

@@jair2776 I hear you. Took me a while to accept manuals were no longer quicker, but still would have a manual any day.

[@jair2776]

@@Blue-moon12 can't decide on a Elantra N or new Golf R. I'm leaning towards a DCT for the N but the R I wouldn't mind as a manual. But prefer DCT. They're pulling 4 sec 0-60s

[@f181234]

This isn’t a traditional auto it’s a DCT

[@revmatchproductions]

Just a few bolt ons + tune on those 1.6 in the elantra are no joke, you can make 300 wheel easy. But the no Lsd kind of ruins it, the car has to be pointed straight if u want to punch it

[@davidducovny1367]

You should race it against the 2018 Elantra Sport ,this car is available WITH manual Transmision in Canada ,the same engine 201 Hp/195 Torque like the 2022 Elantra N-line

[@dominickvelezjr9171]

New civic si……. Slow, ugly, and overrated.

[@Eugen-E]

Elantra is the ugly here. Put a tune on that Si and bye bye hyundai.

[@lanesworld4000]

@@Eugen-E Civic Si is pretty awesome, but expensive. They are selling for $33k US or more! Not really fair to compare it to a $25k N-line.

[@dominickvelezjr9171]

@@Eugen-E the fact that you’d have to “tune it” to beat a stock Elantra speaks volumes.

[@Eugen-E]

@@lanesworld4000 Hyundai has to be cheaper, otherwise the company wouldn't sell a car. 🙂

[@Eugen-E]

@@dominickvelezjr9171 Go read about their engines bro. The engine from the Civic is better.

[@owens945]

i love my manual transmission cars but 6 speeds are sadly obsolete in 99% of aplications, pretty much only reason to get a 6 speed is fun or to save some cash.

[@axware7553]

Should’ve done a race with manual to manual

[@gunzorkgaming7847]

They do not offer Elantra N line manual in Canada

[@DeadTreeDropOff]

Do a Corolla TRD vs GTI please.

[@Slambreezy11]

THE NEW ELANTRA IS THE UGLIEST ONE EVER MADE

[@druscanam]

What?, it looked like the civic won race 2 both from the perspective from the Civic and N-nline racing for about 15sec each(about the duration of the drag race) with the civic being in front by a decent margin then the camera cut to a 3rd person perspective at the finish line Elanta N-line magically crossing the line first without passing the civic? I think you'll have to explain yourself here?

[@chriskuhr9325]

Why one of my type choices for my next vehicle is between the Toyota GR86 or the Hyundai Elantra N

[@MrPicky400]

I see a mazda 3 turbo behind. Cant wait

[@CuzImLexR]

what if the Elantra was 2.0 turbo?