2023 Honda Civic Type R takes on Nissan Z and Hyundai Elantra N, drag and roll race. Join this channel to get access to perks: / @samcarlegion
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@glistud817811 ай бұрын
The Z driver shifting was so smooth
@mak703411 күн бұрын
Aren't they paddle shifters? Edit: Never mind. Seen the shifting. I think the Nismo is the paddle shifter one.
@RealLeskot11 ай бұрын
That Hyundai is very impressive for the money.
@yorkaveeno3782 ай бұрын
Only for drag.
@_Triple-S_11 ай бұрын
It will be very awesome to see the two cousin's (Civic Type-R vs Integra Type-S) drag racing against each other!!
@123cornflakeman11 ай бұрын
@@wza223-fo3mc They are both over priced tf.
@simonmorty83449 ай бұрын
You're in luck! Go over to throttle house incase you missed that race.
@caffeinefix27518 ай бұрын
recent hagerty video
@shotz_ina7893Ай бұрын
@@123cornflakemanDepends on who’s buying it 😂
@fernando2jz11 ай бұрын
Nice video. I would love to see this Z come back with some more competitive tires.
@Bleachpie88 ай бұрын
Excellent video sam. Could u do a Hyundai veloster n vs Elantra N one of these days?
@Bp218199111 ай бұрын
I see you Guyana 🙌🏾 Nice shifting!
@blue_m435xi11 ай бұрын
Nice. Finally, a solid video. I like this format.
@j.m.980511 ай бұрын
If it weren't for the crazy 10-20K markups, I would definitely go for the Nissan Z.
@oct227410 ай бұрын
are you finding they aren't marking up the Honda Civic Type R ?
@j.m.980510 ай бұрын
@@oct2274 it's not even available 🤣
@oct227410 ай бұрын
@@j.m.9805 exactly and when they are, you aren't touching it for anywhere near msrp
@UDamnFine7 ай бұрын
Z and CTR are still over $50k 😂
@ADA-ih6kz7 ай бұрын
No kidding, everything over here is marked up 20-40k. Scat pack widebody for 107k.......bruh. z for 85k. Type s integra for 75k. Ridiculous
@JasonSmith-zu3rn11 ай бұрын
Awesome video ! I'm inlove with the Type R . Also excited but I have to wait until 2025 for mine to arrive. The Nissan is on a different level though God damn that RWD is powerful. Keep it up.
@Calwinn11 ай бұрын
The Type-R & Z drag races were super interesting
@RaceCarFriends11 ай бұрын
This went pretty much how I thought it would awesome runs.
@UmarTheGreat1011 ай бұрын
I'm usually critical of your videos but I see an improvement in your driving and especially launching. Good job!
@11watupman11 ай бұрын
I agree Sam has improved his shifting
@vfonte2187 ай бұрын
I also agree....qnd I commented about it and it wasn't received well
@mike-sc2nk11 ай бұрын
Love seeing the 0-60 and 1/4mile times too!
@salahuddinabujadayel609811 ай бұрын
And the n line with dual clutch instead of manual
@AcuraChannel11 ай бұрын
Good race...Sam, you should try the 50mph roll race speed next to see the outcome. Interesting that the speed was the same from a dig and roll race. Looks like it was about a 5 car gap from the dig on the last one with the Elantra. Can't wait to see the Acura integra Type S race!
@tibi144111 ай бұрын
Agreed, 50 or 60 in third. Since you already did 30 in second, its pretty much the same doing 40 in second.
@kobedabest11 ай бұрын
I wanna see a EVO X and STI against the R and N
@swaginih11 ай бұрын
Evo and sti are far less slower than the N and the R from a roll. From a dig they gonna get chased down
@Eddiemane611 ай бұрын
I like your thinking lol
@jponz8511 ай бұрын
Should be close from a dig. Roll? Lol... they'll lose easily
@swaginih11 ай бұрын
@@jponz85 nah, the Evo and sti make like 240-250 to the wheel… the R it’s like 280 and the N is around there. The R and the N are lighter than both the Sti and the Evo. So top end it’s GG roll or dig
@e46m54nissansr2093711 ай бұрын
Sounds like you just want to see FWD turbos dominate some old AWD legends. Have you no respect
@BOOSTEDDUDE11 ай бұрын
Very cool. Nice to hear you rated the Type R a 10/10. Sounds really fun.
@ACommenterOnYouTube10 ай бұрын
smh
@GTRMclaren72211 ай бұрын
The only reason the Z did not destroy the TypeR even more was the very bad launch of the Z driver. Terrible!!
@Shono73111 ай бұрын
🚙👍🏼👊🏼Awesome video! Such incredible cars!! Early this year I traded my 2019 FK8 Type R and got a 2023 FL5!! I have really enjoyed it and over all I like it better than my FK8!! The build quality of the FL5 is quite a bit better than the FK8 in my experience and opinion! Everything about it is a step above the FK8! I think it’s hard to explain the difference if a person hasn’t driven both for any good period of time! I was fortunate to get my FL5 at msrp because I have a great relationship with my local Honda dealership! Keep up the amazing content!! I am a new subscriber and look forward to more videos in the future 🚙👍🏼👊🏼🙏🏼🔥
@GoGetter-vl2kq6 ай бұрын
The guy in the Nissan Z misshift and the type R still couldn’t catch up so you know that Nissan is a beast
@doctorlawrence467610 ай бұрын
Good job guys I love your videos and cars😊
@njkim09097 ай бұрын
Luv it!
@RevsALot11 ай бұрын
I see Sam got a lot faster with the shifting🔥, great runs! Type R shifts and engine sound so crispy and smooth. The Z is on a whole other lvl though😂.
@g0d18211 ай бұрын
fake engine noise from fl5
@b8067hc11 ай бұрын
Z is on the Supra level, of course above TypeR.
@RevsALot11 ай бұрын
@b8067hc from the races I seen the Z gets destroyed by the Supra, and that hurts to say as a VR owner lol.
@cjpp78ytube11 ай бұрын
Manual Z vs Manual supra is close
@JonHop111 ай бұрын
@@b8067hc same price point tho.. Type R is $60,000...
@pedrorivera230811 ай бұрын
Sam is shifting like there is no tomorrow 🤣🤣💯💪
@germanengineering20411 ай бұрын
Banging those gears like an animal 😂
@kuvyoghmoobamelica68833 ай бұрын
Same has watched a lot of Best Motoring lately lol.
@postalpancho11 ай бұрын
Wish they would bring on the 2.0 Supra, 230i, CT4 V and CLA35
@johns566611 ай бұрын
Love seeing the z make it's way in every so often! Not alot of coverage since launch day. Would like to see a run with good tires because it seems to be a running theme with all the Z runs you've hosted Sam. Tha KS for the amazing content!
@e46m54nissansr2093711 ай бұрын
Not a lot of coverage of the Z at all kind of quiet on the Nissan side.
@cosmic_gate47611 ай бұрын
@@e46m54nissansr20937 They quiet cause they won't product anything
@philhenderson351611 ай бұрын
@@e46m54nissansr20937 Because they know they could've done better with it and didn't. At least they actually came up with something, and the roots are definitely there. It'll most likely be short lived since everything will transition to electric in the next 5 years.
@fahmidnd211 ай бұрын
because it will always live in the shadows of the supra. The supra's just better.
@TopSecretVid11 ай бұрын
Cos it’s pretty much crap for the overpriced asking amount!!
@crxtodd1611 ай бұрын
Nice - I especially like the stats posted at the top when comparing the cars! These look like fun races. Thanks for the content!
@Tarequr9 ай бұрын
Bro said all the wrong stats.
@clintavo8 ай бұрын
Is the Elantra's steering wheel delaminating already?
@keithstubbs447310 ай бұрын
Elantra N curb weight of 3,808lb? And your cc says 3,208lb. Which is correct? I'm going with 3208lb
@UmarKhan-ig4rx11 ай бұрын
I'm waiting for Civic Type R FK8 vs Civic Type R FL5 ❤
@racing-proof3411 ай бұрын
Carwow made this happen couple months back if u want to take a look at
@liudxdx11 ай бұрын
a lot of youtubers have done it. and the FL5 is slightly a bit faster. still take the FK8 over this.
@DhrumilP2411 ай бұрын
Would love to see more races with the Accord 2.0t as well. Great video🔥🔥
@j0hnny48310 ай бұрын
Whoever was driving the Z wasn't doing it justice. Would be a very different race with a competent driver.
@daschyt222511 ай бұрын
Great video! Thank you
@SamCarLegion11 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@andrytavarez274111 ай бұрын
The Type R got that VTEC , that helped it win
@TRDRBR11 ай бұрын
The Z has two turbos and a V6 so no surprise that it’s faster but it’s possible to make the type R way faster then stock so the potential is there for sure .
@nateap885 ай бұрын
Yes, you can modify cars to make them faster…
@kuvyoghmoobamelica68833 ай бұрын
Having two turbos doesn't mean it's faster. It can have a 3.0L and the turbos will be the size of a glazed donut.
@BlackNAVYAmericanVET11 ай бұрын
Which will be in the Repair shop first for RECALLS ? And engineering issues?
@7g6_6611 ай бұрын
5:36 what is the stuff on the steering wheel of the Elantra N, is it wear? Or just straight up gunk
@TuscaniGT11 ай бұрын
They just had to use a 22 N that's already been run hard it's entire life without the DCT because have to make the type R look good.
@DTEL7711 ай бұрын
Thanks for keeping the Elantra N in the mix, so cool to see how it does against more expensive and more powerful cars. It really is in a unique niche in terms of performance.
@kychristell177911 ай бұрын
I still haven't seen one in the world though 😕
@TheBreakfastLover11 ай бұрын
@@kychristell1779 me too, I've seen zero EN's on the street, but I've already seen two FL5 Type R's in the past month.
@addiegaskin680711 ай бұрын
@@kychristell1779 they're gorgeous in person
@porschegt234611 ай бұрын
@@TheBreakfastLoverI saw maybe 2 in my life time strangely… so weird how elusive they are.
@SIIKAP111 ай бұрын
@@TheBreakfastLoveri’ve seen around 7-10 ENs and zero FL5 Type Rs on the streets
@luiscruz483911 ай бұрын
That’s how you know the Z needs tires right away
@Platos-Den11 ай бұрын
Now this an interesting race Sammy boy!
@PolishBullitt11 ай бұрын
Sam can you please confirm if Type R was stock or modified some people think there was something done to it thank you 🙂
@GERONIMO32611 ай бұрын
Dude shifting in the Z is quicckkkk
@24Coup11 ай бұрын
Was octane learning done on the EN? Can tell by max boost going from 15 to 18ish
@Marbind25 күн бұрын
Sorry pal, 3psi won't be enough to overcome that gap.
@NoNegotiations11 ай бұрын
How many miles does elantra have? what happened to that steering wheel?
@keng1977camaro10 ай бұрын
Great races between the Elantra N and Type R but I would have liked to see a driver swap. Both very consistent but the fella driving the type-r was a bit better
@FEXAZb4 ай бұрын
Yup I noticed
@TarekA-dy2if3 ай бұрын
Not really tyoe r driver shifts too early doesn't give the turbo enough spool
@Shanker4202 ай бұрын
N driver always short shifts
@aquaboy165011 ай бұрын
4cyl 2L turbo is more expensive than a 6cyl 3L turbo. Amazing pricing for Honda 😂
@kobedabest11 ай бұрын
Exactly! 😅
@porschegt234611 ай бұрын
You basic as hell thinking all the money went into the engine.
@TheBreakfastLover11 ай бұрын
It sells out with dealer mark-ups. Honda knows there is high demand for the Type R.
@mike-sc2nk11 ай бұрын
Excellent shifting man!
@SamCarLegion11 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@rapfan9711 ай бұрын
What happened to the steeringwheel of the elantra?
@jonttran109211 ай бұрын
Sam found the roughest Elantra N he could find with that 300,000 mile steering wheel, black badges everywhere and driver who short shifts losing 20 metres each shift. (see his hand fall off the shifter in the video) A manual Elantra N traps 107mph stock so it shouldn't be miles behind, it should stay with TYPER on a roll. DCT is faster again as it doesn't dump boost through gear changes, has more boost and shifts quicker. Sam also likes to get the jump on the runs... He hits the gas and 2 seconds later says GO..
@Shanker4202 ай бұрын
Exactly.
@DrNoahBoddy004Ай бұрын
This was easily the most fake test I think I’ve seen in perhaps eleven years. Civil, and short, I know how to do. Hyundai, I have no doubt, spent several million developing that ‘N-Series’ and you slow-walked, and trashed it, horribly. I watched the whole menagerie six times, and thought, I must be losing my mind, and if that’s happened, It will take longer finding it with this channel as a compass. Outside of that, fantastic camera-work. Good luck
@larrycharles-dm2hsАй бұрын
@@DrNoahBoddy004 Cry about it, bro. Hyundai tried to make good cars, and failed every time. It won't change anytime soon.
@DrNoahBoddy004Ай бұрын
@@larrycharles-dm2hs Not if they consult with Lotus, and Infinity in two areas… I just got off the phone with a friend just now. He seems to think (suspension tuning, and mid-band reserve engine power) I told him, from his lips to Hyundai’s ears. I agreed.
@DrNoahBoddy004Ай бұрын
@@larrycharles-dm2hs ….. and I still think they came-off way too cavalier, and matter of fact about the whole dxmn thing. It’s ok. They’ll be getting a letter from me in Seoul.
@riccitone11 ай бұрын
Love my EN manual. Less power, but geared well, designed well, wonderful balance of acceleration and handling for such a great price. Money left over for some modest mods that will make it más macho 💪🏼👍🏼
@brokentradgedy10 ай бұрын
but who's your daddy? hint its the type-r
@Mike-lt6sj10 ай бұрын
Hyundai should start making cars that look good. I like they are putting power in these cars, but the looks just aren't there.
@riccitone10 ай бұрын
@@Mike-lt6sj Have to say that I prefer the way Hondas look overall. Just the same, have you seen the Elantra N up close? It’s actually quite stunning in its own rite. But yeah, looking directly at the front of mine, pretty much resembles a catfish 😂
@Mike-lt6sj10 ай бұрын
@@riccitone Yeah, there's a few of them in my area. I just can't get over that. I prefer the teggy type s over the type r as far as looks go, but the new type r looks a lot better than it used to.
@riccitone10 ай бұрын
@@brokentradgedy Yes, would love one? But can’t justify that $$$$$ tag.
@haircafekevin11 ай бұрын
How would a Kia ev6 gt do if it were in this race?
@lowridr210 ай бұрын
the Z is very fast and fun we have one at the dealer its a blast to rip around
@apexcobra.official11 ай бұрын
Current N car owner, former Q50 owner(same engine as the Z). If you want to drag race, the Z is obviously the way to go here. RWD>FWD. Tires and a tune and they'll probably beat the fastest FB0 tuned N car out there. My Q50 went 11.71 tune only, 11.39 with just downpipes and an e30 tune. N vs CTR, I can't comment about the manual Ns, but the DCT Ns post faster 1/4 mile ETs than the CTRs do. They tend to come off the line quicker, even having skinnier tires and all that. I'd still expect the DCT N to lose in a roll race to a CTR with a good driver most of the time. Slightly more power, slightly lighter. On a track, manual vs manual, it's been proven multiple times that the CTR is generally a bit faster. A savagegeese video was recently done comparing lap times of the CTR vs EN(and a few other cars) all done by the same driver on the same tires. The CTR won, but not by a lot. The EN, from what the video shows, was only boosting 15psi, so it may not have been octane learned. Octane learning is a real thing on these cars and might account for a legit 30-50hp or something. In my testing, just octane learning reduces almost a half a second from the 0-60 alone from the extra 3-5psi boost(depending on fuel grade). That being said... The CTR looks way better than the EN inside out and has a higher build quality. Resale value on the CTR will absolutely crush the ENs. People sell 5 year old CTRs for the same price they paid for them, so you could buy one and basically drive it for free over a few years of ownership(assuming you could get one at MSRP). A 5 year old EN will probably loose $7-12k or something. Hard to say exactly, we're not there yet. All in all, as an N car owner, I'd say the CTR is a better overall package, but is it worth the $10,000 MSRP over the EN? Eh, maybe if you have no issues affording that and don't care that the DCT EN for example might run the 1/4 a little better. Is it worth the $20k extra people are paying with markups and whatnot included? Eh, no, but at the end of the day with markup included and less depreciation it's probably going to cost you about 10k more than an EN. If 10k isn't a big deal to you, I'd probably go CTR. At the end of the day, you could buy an EN, spend $1000 on an ECU tune, it'll be faster than a CTR in almost any scenario, and you'll still save $9,000 out front. It may not look as good(personal opinion) and may not have the prestige, but it will likely provide more overall performance for less money. The actual amount of money you'd save over an extended ownership period has yet to be determined. I apologize for the slightly incoherent rant, it's still early and I haven't finished my 1st cup of coffee yet. I was out late enjoying the 50 degree air, ripping my fantastic tuned DCT N car around on the local country roads. #racetracktheworld #neverjustdrive
@driveri143511 ай бұрын
It's just straight line bro get a grip
@callXofXdutyXGuy11 ай бұрын
@@driveri1435 you didnt read what he said did you
@driveri143511 ай бұрын
@@callXofXdutyXGuy 🙃
@upbeatmantis8610 ай бұрын
Fl5 if not for the price, it wins in every department.
@deenycest1071011 ай бұрын
N is faster than R if it's DCT version. Z beats both in a straight line.
@phs602611 ай бұрын
Even if N is dct, R is faster😂😂
@alleneubeltofficial11 ай бұрын
@@phs6026no sir, dct EN is faster than fl5 CTR
@Eugen-E11 ай бұрын
@@alleneubeltofficial where did you see that? In your dreams ?
@alleneubeltofficial11 ай бұрын
@@Eugen-E no, theres plenty of youtube shorts of people racing😂 "eugene"
@deenycest1071011 ай бұрын
@@phs6026 nope. Look up every type r 1/4 mile time.
@Slimrick31011 ай бұрын
The Z is in a diff category lol Overall great vid
@sergiobenitez129510 ай бұрын
U should do a ( n vs trd ) would love to see that race dct and mt
@tommykelley394811 ай бұрын
DCT ELANTRA N, WOULD HAVE BEEN A BIG DIFFERENT OUTCOME against the TYPE R🔥🔥🔥🌟👌🏾‼️
@jordynhixson65511 ай бұрын
They don't want to upset the Honda fan boys with the DCT
@BDA053111 ай бұрын
Yeah the DCT would have its transmission blown up before it could finish lmao
@tommykelley394811 ай бұрын
( @@BDA0531 ) DEAD WRONG PAL🔥😁👌🏾‼️
@jordynhixson65511 ай бұрын
@@BDA0531 Typical person that stereotypes Hyundai and doesn't do his research
@BDA053111 ай бұрын
@@jordynhixson655 I actually have. Its actually embarrassing how much posts ive seen on social media about blown up DCT transmissions for Hyundais. I had a 22 VN 6 M/T for a few months and it showed signs of unreliability already despite being a fun ass car lol
@Xchax311 ай бұрын
The key thing to note, is that the real problem are the dealerships that mark these cars high. These franchising laws need to change. It was VERY difficult trying to find a Nissan dealership that didn't want to sell the Z at a ridiculous mark up.
@corrosivedevourer11 ай бұрын
Bro I still haven't seen a Z on the streets yet and I live in a big city...
@Xchax311 ай бұрын
@@corrosivedevourer I believe it. I only saw one, it was a Proto. They were asking for $95k for the Proto spec and 70 something for a base. I decided to leave and go to Honda, I’ll probably throwup at whatever markup there will be on the Z NISMO.
@chi-townsillest8899 ай бұрын
Sam drove the heck out the type R lol good job
@GSTRification11 ай бұрын
I am rwd junkie myself and have only owned rwd cars, mostly m3s, amg, nsx 2nd gen.and currently gr86 but this gen type r and elantra n would be the only fwd cars that could possibly break my tradition. In line to obtain a type r possible after mid cycle refresh at msrp dealer
@dwayneobas909511 ай бұрын
I hope it's the DCT N at least. Even though the N isn't winning either way because of power. Of course it's the manual 🙃 not a fair race at this point. After watching this video I can say the automatic N would have taken the type r or a really close one.
@Jcastro944411 ай бұрын
The DCT N is faster than a type R however you wanna slice it. These YT people don't know what they're doing.
@MidnightAspec11 ай бұрын
@@layne4376 you beat me to it with that reply. 😂
@phs602611 ай бұрын
@@Jcastro9444even if N is dct, R is faster
@Jcastro944411 ай бұрын
It's ok to be salty that an dct EN is faster than the prestigious type R lol
@Eugen-E11 ай бұрын
@@Jcastro9444 Show us the drag race where the N dct is faster than the TypeR please.
@mattmasi30311 ай бұрын
8:29 I like how the steering wheel leather on the Elantra is already falling apart
@stevelamby765811 ай бұрын
Came here to say the same thing.. unacceptable unless he’s got 100k+ on the thing already….
@Mano_on_Point11 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly!! I was lookin for this comment. Even if it had a decent amount of miles. The car is relatively new being a 2022. Should be falling about like that
@jpm40811 ай бұрын
I was going to point that out as well. I said let me check the comments. Glad to see I am not the only one who noticed. Really says alot about the quality. The leather steering wheel on my 07 accord is in better shape
@Mano_on_Point11 ай бұрын
@@jpm408 funny you say that I just got the 2023 accord sport hybrid as my daily driver and I have a mustang as the weekend warrior. I must say the Accords leather steering wheel is top notch.
@willp47633 ай бұрын
That's just dirt because the nasty ass who owns it doesn't clean it and it's sticking to the oil from his hands. Also the dude driving the Elantra needs to learn how to NLS in that EN.
@tapout9549 ай бұрын
My elantra n 6spd stock ran a 13.6 at bradenton
@lynkx506611 ай бұрын
Sam: he's not far Narrator: he was far
@cbruno1218011 ай бұрын
The N is such a bargain 34k for the 6 speed is just amazing value im sorry take it all day over the others !!!
@HuuTonyTran7 ай бұрын
Then you're fking stupid mate only dumb poor cunts that don't know anything about jdm cars buys the shitbox Hyundai Korean trash 🙄
@JoshLopez-fm5hi7 ай бұрын
Why would anyone buy a Hyundai over a CTR or 400z besides money
@NGSMODE6 ай бұрын
@JoshLopez-fm5hi Because it's a brilliant driver's car regardless of cost or badge. I know a couple Porsche owners in an N owners page who could easily afford a CTR or Z. They chose the Elantra N as their trackable daily.
@pctkheem28516 ай бұрын
Who wouldn't take it? Only the typical boring same minded people that think hondas are god.
@c.g.41956 ай бұрын
@JoshLopez-fm5hi because you can make it faster than those 2 overpriced cars period
@ytsux925911 ай бұрын
Manual shifting is so fun!
@SamCarLegion11 ай бұрын
It really is! I love racing 6mts
@ytsux925911 ай бұрын
I haven't had a manual car in over a decade. 😢
@artnaver550310 ай бұрын
Which car has more tuning space?
@robertf952111 ай бұрын
He is far .. nice shifting Sam and that’s why I bought the DCT !
@juanfernandez898711 ай бұрын
Looks like the Z ain't gettin' any love. I have an FL5 and truthfully, it's an amazing machine.
@JonHop111 ай бұрын
fl5 sucks... snooze fest.. Its also $60,000... .screw that..
@juanfernandez898711 ай бұрын
@@JonHop1 if they are overpriced, it's for a reason. Don't you think? Seems fairly simple to me.
@JonHop111 ай бұрын
@@juanfernandez8987 Yeah, it is simple, Dealers are very greedy and trying to control the market, because they have too much power. In todays terrible economy, people are very desperate, and companies are exploiting this. There are supply shortages everywhere, the economy is crap, so the rich people come out, and will pay any price they ask. Which is a HUGE destriment to the middle and lower class. It is typical greed and exploitation. Honda said, they sold 40% under their projections of the Fk8, all because dealers held them hostage at huge markups and refused to sell them for MSRP. What this does is artificially increase demand, for a supply that is already there, but is being purposely held back from the public so they can jack up the prices.
@juanfernandez898711 ай бұрын
@@JonHop1 Remember Dell back in the day when it started? They sold directly to customer, bypassing all middle detailers. This was a breakthrough business model back then. We need to do that with cars. Buy directly from Honda and ship it to our house.
@Shambles769811 ай бұрын
Type R really looking good and Hot 👌🔥
@SamCarLegion11 ай бұрын
We agree!
@marcz96211 ай бұрын
Besides tires the. Gear ratios seem a little better in the R for the first two gears. Solid stuff though all great cars!
@Car_channels2 ай бұрын
that wheel hub on that civic is crazy not going to lie lol
@Angelbonilla198211 ай бұрын
Looks like the type R is ahead before starting to race
@sircefiro11 ай бұрын
Love the manual runs
@SamCarLegion11 ай бұрын
Same
@giorgosapo450811 ай бұрын
What a race! If possible can we have the weight on KG too when that lovely spec info box pops up? BTW having those car spec pop ups over the vehicles is very helpful for instant comparison.
@dongidongi11 ай бұрын
The throws on the Honda seem so much longer?
@AlejandroArchila111 ай бұрын
I want to see Evo X vs STI vs Type R vs Z would love to see how newer competitors are against legends.
@mcoeif10 ай бұрын
Hate to say it but Evo X would get smoked
@AlejandroArchila110 ай бұрын
@@mcoeif win or lose I want to see it.
@Drivenbyfate111 ай бұрын
I have 16k miles on my N and the steering wheel does not look worn at all. How is his so worn? Also, with mods and tunes, they are very similar. I beat previous gen type r’s all day on track and autocross. Mods matter, driver matters, they are very close though. (I pocket the 20k real world price difference) plus, I am always a fan of the underdog.
@Justaeuropeanman11 ай бұрын
You might be right but once the new Type R’s also throw some mods on them there is no way the Elantra N will keep up with it on a track day
@lllll98111 ай бұрын
@@Justaeuropeanman but it is kinda sad that you have to spend so much on the Type R, and then spend more on mods to beat a car that is significantly cheaper. Performance per dollar per mod the EN wins.
@Justaeuropeanman11 ай бұрын
@@lllll981 I mean you kinda get what you pay for. You can get a Elantra N that is cheaper but no matter how much modifications you throw on it will never run as fast as laps as the Type R. Or You can pay more for the Type R and with modifications you can outrun pretty much supercars around the track.
@marcm769211 ай бұрын
Lies. Also, yours will blow up around 60-80k and will need a new engine.
@mharro8811 ай бұрын
@@Justaeuropeanmansame can be said for a 400hp EN which I've seen
@hardyboylifestyle10 ай бұрын
Love the video. You should try the Sonata N line. Everyone skips over that car and go straight to the Elantra N, when the Sonata N line has more power but weighs just a little more then the Elantra N. Maybe race them against one another. 🤔
@4drturbo855 ай бұрын
Automatic Elantra will beat a Sonata N-Line. They skipped over the sonata because you cannot get the sonata with a manual transmission. All the vehicles in the video had a manual transmission.
@hardyboylifestyle5 ай бұрын
If it’s because it’s a automatic, then ok but as far as the Elantra N beating a Sonata Nline. That’s not happening, even if the Elantra is automatic. Sorry brother. It’s been proven so many times. Stock VS Stock
@NGSMODE4 ай бұрын
@hardyboylifestyle The contrary has been proven too lmao. People think that just because the Sonata has 20 lb/ft more torque on paper and a 2.5T it gets automatic wins. It still weighs over 200 lbs more and doesn't have the aero, suspension geometry, gearing, e-lsd, etc. Put both of them on a prepped track and run them multiple times. The lighter DCT EN might not triumph in 0-60 every time, but will trap a better 1/4 mi in a majority of runs stock for stock. And it also has the superior aftermarket despite being a 2.0T, so either way it's winning in some metric.
@hardyboylifestyle4 ай бұрын
@@NGSMODE a company here in the US has new hybrid Turbo for the sonata Nline, new Clutches and the ECU by February.
@NGSMODE4 ай бұрын
@hardyboylifestyle That's gonna be real nice. I'm hoping for a true Sonata N with awd as well in the future. Or atleast an aggressive e-lsd on a fwd platform, since it's proven to be effective. 2025 or 26' EN might come with a 2.5T, if they decide to implement it.
@Cali714fornia2 ай бұрын
Nissan I feel is starting to get back into their street groove again. I love to see it
@godzilla739111 ай бұрын
Pulling for the Elantra N, but it's a tall task since it's way down on power. Z will most likely take it
@nighthawk007711 ай бұрын
Got smoked by the R. No need to race Z
@JT-fq2bl11 ай бұрын
You need the Elantra N DCT to outrun the Type R.
@Youcallthesebagels_11 ай бұрын
@@JT-fq2blEN dct with a jb4 would gap the Z lol
@270trevon11 ай бұрын
@@Youcallthesebagels_now throw that jb4 on the z and see what happens 😂
@nighthawk007711 ай бұрын
@@270trevon Yes, also doubt jb4 N could touch stock Z
@S8ER11 ай бұрын
Sam random thought but it would be cool to have a top list (maybe just a graphic image) with each car you’ve hosted and its 0-60 and 1/4 mile on it. It could be a community post even
@draydenfong200510 ай бұрын
Civic Type R holds their values
@armendgjonbalaj11 ай бұрын
I like to see next video golf R vs Civic Type R
@alleneubeltofficial11 ай бұрын
elantra n all day everyday can't beat the bang for buck
@Justaeuropeanman11 ай бұрын
I mean i guess it’s a good car for Poor people that can’t afford real cars lol
@alleneubeltofficial11 ай бұрын
@@Justaeuropeanman youre white😂 and broke major L
@MrWaltercronkite11 ай бұрын
Z reduced to racing civics and elantras... Embarrassing.
@ghettolemon399316 күн бұрын
Still cheaper than a civic
@oldhunterraziel53276 күн бұрын
Sums up Nissan in general the past two decades. The GTR hasn't changed much and it's the only thing that was exciting in decades but it is stale if you ask me.
@nicolejay79995 күн бұрын
Reduced?? 😂
@nicolejay79995 күн бұрын
The z is just an over priced Elantra N or civic type r You can get similar performance out of a Hyundai N car for a lot less money unless you don’t care about putting your kids through college then I would stick with the civic or Elantra..
@nicolejay79995 күн бұрын
The z is a good bit cheaper then a civic type r also the Elantra n is only about 9000$ dollars less then the Z They all are slightly similar in their own way. Hyundai is coming up in the world all these Hyundai N cars that people used to call “cheap” are now made By BMW…. 🎉
@CHOZEN4GREATNESS8349 ай бұрын
That nissan z took them to gapple bees 😮
@kggkd128 ай бұрын
아니 그러니까 지금 엘란트라랑 저런 차들이랑 드레그를 한다는 거 자체가 넌센스임...... 인지부조화가 온다...ㄷㄷ
@porschegt234611 ай бұрын
Type r runs at 22lbs of boost from the factory. It has more aero too slowing it down but race is exactly as I expected.
@keoki77711 ай бұрын
That's a lot of boost. I wasn't aware it comes that high from the factory.
@thaydathroeun867811 ай бұрын
Will it be more reliable and take more abuse than EN?
@thaydathroeun867811 ай бұрын
Will it respond to mods tunes better? Is it the better engine?
@kaycertified11 ай бұрын
@@thaydathroeun8678 knowing Honda and it’s massive accessible aftermarket support, I would beg to say Honda is the better engine.
@thaydathroeun867811 ай бұрын
@@kaycertified you read my mind 22 lbs of boost is nothing haha Roll race king, lap time king Laptop king lmao
@PolishBullitt11 ай бұрын
Good racing Sam, I always love to see EN going against other cars even if it loses 🙂 however I don’t know how much seat time Elantra N driver have, cause watching those races it seems like there’s no launch control or traction off cause EN is struggling bad from the dig and Sam was always ahead in rolls. But great video at least we know where manual EN stands more or less and btw DCT is definitely faster and actually make more power 😉
@Justaeuropeanman11 ай бұрын
I saw another video where the DCT Elantra races the Type R it still lost but it was a lot closer to the Type R the Elantra only lost by like a foot thats a lot less than what the manual lost to it by that’s pretty impressive but trying to go against the Z stock there’s no way lol
@PolishBullitt11 ай бұрын
@@Justaeuropeanman against Z hell no lol there are videos when EN wins and loses, but I’m yet to find out myself cause I have a guy who wants to race his Type R so I will definitely make a video about it regardless of the outcome haha 🙂
@psewgobind11 ай бұрын
I got 24k of seat time in my 2023 EN. When I'm in kill mode, Sam's shifting style seemed limp in comparison. Don't know what's wrong with other driver... The hopping is bad, but u need to make it hop a tiny bit, or you're not giving it enough and then short-shift at about 300rpm (from redline) which will make it boogie in 2nd. Seriously, the inhouse shots of EN seemed very limp compared to what I'm used to.
@boostlife637011 ай бұрын
@@JustaeuropeanmanI gap a ctr and I'm dct.
@PolishBullitt11 ай бұрын
@@psewgobind yeah there was something going on for sure
@Cichlid_Visuals11 ай бұрын
is the elantras steering wheel already starting to fall apart?
@briansmith27085 күн бұрын
The Elantra N weighs 3,208lbs Sam. Even though that's what was on the screen during the specs, you said it weighed 3,808lbs. But still an awesome video. Drive safe my friend
@berzerkergaming33189 ай бұрын
Should of held the rpms a little longer in the type r not letting it build enough boost
@moochiezpitt11 ай бұрын
The Z and Q60 red sport have the same engine. It would be interesting to see the awd q60 or rwd q60 go up again the Z.
@supremecy18711 ай бұрын
Q60 awd won from dig and Z from a roll
@SamCarLegion11 ай бұрын
Already done
@tepelkua11 ай бұрын
Where are all my type R fan boys at?
@t.a-84698 ай бұрын
The results seem strange I might be missing something but many Elantra N’s on KZbin are hitting 0-60 in 5 sec flat. If these numbers are accurate it would make a great difference in the dream results.
@taemeister93024 ай бұрын
EN DCT smokes the type-r
@savedby_grace611011 ай бұрын
I love the comparisons , but the this race sets up the type R for losing. The R is a track car. There is where it shines.
@PhatMikeSP111 ай бұрын
Imo they’re just showing what these cars can do in everyday scenarios like from a light or highway fun, even possibly drag strip. Lots of people do go to road course, but the vast majority of people don’t. Going to road courses costs more with memberships and don’t get me started on tires😂 along with brakes.
@GODEYE27011511 ай бұрын
Z finally got a win 🙇🏻♂️
@KP-xi4bj11 ай бұрын
Against cars not in its class! LMFAO SMH
@jorgerojas342411 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same.
@mogulme619011 ай бұрын
That’s fine, it’s cheaper and with the aftermarket it’ll compete with every single thing in its price range maybe unless you’re trying to run 9s.
@forrysc11 ай бұрын
Why does that Elantra's steering wheel look 20 years old?
@gs9899911 ай бұрын
That’s the Wah factor 😂
@Freddy_Confetti11 ай бұрын
Bc kia’s are garbage
@kevin2jzzzz2038 ай бұрын
Hyundai Quality
@fusrodahing19932 ай бұрын
No clue, but that's a driver thing. It's just a plain nice leather wrapped steering wheel. Mine has no wear at all at 11k miles, and I've had it for a bit over a year lmao. The wheel itself feels better than any other leather wheel I've held, in my experience