2023 BMW M2 (Manual) - POV Driving Impressions

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TheTopher

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11 ай бұрын

MSRP: $62,200
Horsepower: 453 hp @ 6,250 rpm
3.0-liter BMW M TwinPower Turbo inline 6-cylinder engine
Curb weight: 3,814 lbs
Transmission: 6-speed manual
MPG: 16 city / 24 highway
Cargo volume: 13.8 ft³
Exterior: Zandvoort Blue
Options:
Shadowline Package (M Shadowline Lights, Exhaust tips in black) $300
Carbon Package (M Carbon Roof, Bucket seats in black, Carbon Fiber trim, M Driver's Package, 19"/20" M Light Alloy Bicolor) $9900
Lighting Package (Adaptive Full LED Lights) $650
BMW M 50 Years Emblems $200
Live COckpit Pro (incl HUD) $1100
Destination $995
Total Price: $75,345
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@daltonhays5156
@daltonhays5156 11 ай бұрын
"It looks like it had an allergic reaction to something" Is the best description of the new M2. That is exactly what it looks like to me, especially the front
@dagboh3958
@dagboh3958 11 ай бұрын
Puffy cheeks with swollen eyes
@benjaminkitchen7562
@benjaminkitchen7562 11 ай бұрын
Bmw styling so bad now I would be embarrassed to drive one
@nutsackmania
@nutsackmania 11 ай бұрын
looks way better than the outgoing car to me
@RYCSTEW
@RYCSTEW 11 ай бұрын
I like how it looks. But I do agree that it could use a vehicular Epipen
@liamj5091
@liamj5091 11 ай бұрын
For some reason I actually think the 230i and m240i look better
@NDEEZMiata
@NDEEZMiata 11 ай бұрын
Some cars you never want to get out of because they’re so great to drive. The new M2 is a car you never want to get out of because then you have to look at it 😂
@ags911
@ags911 10 ай бұрын
For the money what would you go for?
@ags911
@ags911 10 ай бұрын
Nice one though 😂
@prescottspivey
@prescottspivey 10 ай бұрын
Bruh 🤣🤣
@OleMisss
@OleMisss 10 ай бұрын
@@ags911previous gen m2 is what I’d recommend. or you can join my team and grab an f80 with a 6 speed. (:
@ags911
@ags911 10 ай бұрын
@@OleMisss Really? I meant the modern competition like a A45S or an RS3. The older M2 is nice but is getting a bit dated. What about the M340i?
@davejoshuap
@davejoshuap 9 ай бұрын
I'm really starting to appreciate it! Cars like this nowadays ("Oldschool" sportiness, manual gearbox, etc.) are unfortunately increasingly rare...
@emmanuelamundson5141
@emmanuelamundson5141 11 ай бұрын
Yess another 6 speed manual drive 🎉
@AnDrEw122100
@AnDrEw122100 9 ай бұрын
In my opinion it looks amazing.
@fengstar1
@fengstar1 11 ай бұрын
I'm just happy this is still being offered with a manual. With EV crossovers getting to 60 in 3 seconds nowadays, the fun to drive factor needs to stay alive for these performance cars!
@albinbiju7231
@albinbiju7231 11 ай бұрын
There are a few small tweaks I’d wish for with regards to the design, but everything else the car offers makes it super easy to overlook the design, at least for me personally. I’m just glad the design at the front is nothing like the M3 & M4
@notundermywatch3163
@notundermywatch3163 11 ай бұрын
For those of us who grew up watching Knightrider, hearing a car talk back to you is a dream come true.
@Jcas93
@Jcas93 11 ай бұрын
The previous generation m2 is my dream bmw car. This one doesn’t look that bad. Especially after some aftermarket parts 👍
@fauxkiss
@fauxkiss 11 ай бұрын
7:28 Just wanted to clarify that the adaptive cruise control function doesn't work in that car because it is for the automatic transmission only, not that it wasn't optioned on this vehicle.
@VEEZER1
@VEEZER1 5 ай бұрын
I actually love the way it looks. Pretty cool stuff. What beautiful city was this filmed in?
@edlorenz1552
@edlorenz1552 11 ай бұрын
Got to love all the gravel and other heavy trucks everywhere on our roads. The perpetual cycle of ruining roads to fix them, and ruining while fixing them. SE Michigan is a complete Bleephole and always will be. You should film your vids on N. Territorial, west of 23 and hopefully not stuck behind a truck.
@drivenmad2089
@drivenmad2089 7 ай бұрын
Gotta be honest I actually dig this car. Saw one in person and it looks good to me. The colors are the only let down. Need to add the same color options that’s on the M3/M4. This in portimao blue or Isle of Man green would be awesome!
@jackstanislow8051
@jackstanislow8051 11 ай бұрын
Just bought a 2011 E92 328i coupe with a N52 mated to a 6 speed manual. I was going to buy a new Integra because it checked MOST of the boxes, but then it hit me, I wanted my old Bimmer back because it checked ALL of the boxes. (I used to have an auto e92 328 coupe). The harsh reality is new cars (especially BMWs) are very different now. BMW used to make some of the best cars in the world; they were a car company. Now they are a technology company that makes cars… and thats a shame.
@KrazykidmanHD
@KrazykidmanHD 11 ай бұрын
My very first impression of the external body changes were negative but after my second viewing, I fell for the fresh looks. Nowadays it's inched its way into being one of my many attainable dream cars. Hard to choose one car around the $45-$65k range in todays market
@bodekbodek
@bodekbodek 10 ай бұрын
I feel like i drove this. Thank you. I would never afford this whole life. My corolla cost more than this times 2
@ThomasTwomey
@ThomasTwomey 11 ай бұрын
The adaptive cruise control is only available with the automatic. This is what I noticed in the configurator.
@erikg2493
@erikg2493 11 ай бұрын
You said you had difficulty getting the back to slide out at all, but what settings did you have traction in? MDM? Traction off? Did you try out the 10- state traction control?
@jamescrayton9360
@jamescrayton9360 10 ай бұрын
Tic tic tic tic tic. No engine noise reduction
@bobbygoodman2875
@bobbygoodman2875 7 ай бұрын
I think it's spectacular looking! Rowing the gears with 455 horses, what's not to love?!
@Glenwald
@Glenwald 2 ай бұрын
Looks fantastic in black
@ARentz07
@ARentz07 11 ай бұрын
I personally don't think the piped-in sound is ok. It is one of my biggest hang-ups with BMWs these days. It's ironic because they actually sound pretty good from the outside. Honestly, the car sounded better inside the cabin in the early driving segments of this video when the car was in the more efficient mode.
@thearousedeunuch
@thearousedeunuch 11 ай бұрын
Question: Do voice commands work on Track mode? Would the screen turn on and stay on, should you give it a command, or does it turn off again after a few seconds?
@dsny121
@dsny121 11 ай бұрын
The M2 is the most exciting BMW, from a driving experience point of view.
@kavjmen
@kavjmen 11 ай бұрын
Hi Topher, now that you have driven the 2023 M2 and the 2022 Cadillac CT4V-Blackwing, both with 6-speed manual transmissions and both have similar base prices, which one would you pick is the better driver's car?
@tolgaayazseven9139
@tolgaayazseven9139 11 ай бұрын
Test drove one, ordered one. It’s a bargain at 63K msrp for what you get in this market where integra type s goes for 60K (msrp + market adjustment)
@tolgaayazseven9139
@tolgaayazseven9139 11 ай бұрын
@@FrozenThrone7998 Not that if you order one. In fact, you can find a in-stock one at msrp if you look around. I test drove the Integra Type S and even 52K msrp for that car is too much imho. You hear road noise just like a civic
@BrianLouderback
@BrianLouderback 11 ай бұрын
Agreed. This car is absolutely a bargain in the $60’s. But of course i’d have to get the $10k carbon package.
@drjk7565
@drjk7565 11 ай бұрын
@@FrozenThrone7998 In a way, it's almost better that a car is "hated" by journalists and the public in general as it usually means dealers cannot get away with stupidly high markups. A similar phenomenon happened when the VB Subaru WRX first came out. People hated its plastic cladding and the fact that Subaru were not producing a range-topping STI model. As a result, dealers didn't markup the car too much (if at all) since they follow media trends, and they know any major markups will further kill sales. In contrast, cars that are almost universally beloved by nearly everyone, such as the new FL5 Civic Type R or the coming Mustang Dark Horse, will undoubtedly see prices marked up to the moon and beyond because dealers are aware of the hype surrounding the car.
@rembo183
@rembo183 10 ай бұрын
@@FrozenThrone7998- Dealers absolutely are adding market adjustment in Florida. They add anywhere from $10 to $20k depending on what the market is in the area. I was told it was $10k when I inquired in Tallahassee and discovered higher in S. Florida.
@alexstealth27
@alexstealth27 6 ай бұрын
The new M2 looks like it means business. No pretty curves and no pretty m branding on the fenders. In your face ,, get out of the way simple design language. Love the simple retro boxy look. Old M2 looked like all prior bmws. Nothing different. This looks bad ass. I have an appointment tomorrow at BMW NC to order my Alpine White M2 🙏🥰
@madhunter6420
@madhunter6420 4 ай бұрын
it looks awful
@7728abbott
@7728abbott 11 ай бұрын
Sweet!
@sidharthsureshkumar4426
@sidharthsureshkumar4426 10 ай бұрын
I can't fathom how design engineers are able to go from the previous generation m2 to the new m2 design in the right mind
@keurylara5948
@keurylara5948 8 ай бұрын
The white, black and red options look way better imo it fits the new body better
@riotousomen1773
@riotousomen1773 11 ай бұрын
finally! a car that doesn't go beep beep beep beep beep when it starts lmao
@shauncampbell969
@shauncampbell969 2 ай бұрын
I would've programmed voice controls, to sound like DARTH VADER........but that's just me. All the best Shaun 🦉of NYC 🗽☕
@BrianLouderback
@BrianLouderback 11 ай бұрын
Curious of your thoughts between this and the new Mustang GT? Both are around the same price, with options, and same horsepower.
@sportsclubhub
@sportsclubhub Ай бұрын
How does the gearbox and clutch feel? Are the throws short? Thx
@Jason.W.
@Jason.W. 11 ай бұрын
Wow that’s a really nice tall 6th gear for highway commuting. 2.5k at 75mph.
@disophisis
@disophisis 11 ай бұрын
I dig the looks. The fender flares work for me.
@Sumodeadliftsarefake69
@Sumodeadliftsarefake69 2 ай бұрын
I saw one of these at the dealership in black with tan interior. Looked pretty good to me
@leokerz
@leokerz 11 ай бұрын
Thats a great car! saw one in toronto red the other day and it looked sick asf… not a huge fan of that big old screen there. I drove a manual g80 m3 and I must say the manual is pretty decent IMO. second to third feels real good. Great vid sir
@ARentz07
@ARentz07 11 ай бұрын
What is your high score on the M Drift Analyzer? 😛
@Tsai-Chins-house
@Tsai-Chins-house 2 ай бұрын
are the carbon seats better than than the regular seats?
@Panzil
@Panzil 6 ай бұрын
it's a good looking car.
@NawMan357
@NawMan357 11 ай бұрын
Get that M2 color in Black and that should cover up most of the funky design. Key word **should**
@donkey82
@donkey82 11 ай бұрын
It looks good in person. So many salty comments from F30 328i owners.
@eloneatmyshorts
@eloneatmyshorts 11 ай бұрын
@TheTopher CT4-V BW 6MT or M2 MT?
@fzr1000981
@fzr1000981 11 ай бұрын
Agree 100% on the aesthetics comments...I can't own this car for that reason, I could never look back at it and smile. It's just fugly and all the huggers in the world wouldn't change my mind. CT5V Blackwing for me
@sid1852
@sid1852 Ай бұрын
65k vs 100k car, great comparison
@fzr1000981
@fzr1000981 Ай бұрын
@@sid1852 or RS3
@Jia1337
@Jia1337 11 ай бұрын
I wish the M2 looked like a refresh M2 instead of this entirely new GTA Online looking style.
@emreonder3477
@emreonder3477 11 ай бұрын
I am tired to say hello from Turkey
@TundeEszlari
@TundeEszlari 11 ай бұрын
Wonderful video.
@springspriv4175
@springspriv4175 10 ай бұрын
it’s not about the design it’s about the performance
@tpolerex7282
@tpolerex7282 11 ай бұрын
The marque has lost most of its elegant yet aggressive mojo at least in the looks department. Great performance though, even as it doesn’t necessarily exceed several competitors. That door close clunk, especially for such a heavy car, sounded alarmingly loose too.
@miraclemiler71
@miraclemiler71 11 ай бұрын
@TheTopher… sincere question : this or a Honda Civic Type R?
@pavan151
@pavan151 10 ай бұрын
I own an E30 and the M2 reminds me of a weird E30 x 2 series combo that BMW went for. I kind of like it, I kind of hate it hahaha.
@FindingFlorida24
@FindingFlorida24 2 ай бұрын
i love how it looks... in a day of over processed space ship looking bs this stands out
@SerPurple51
@SerPurple51 11 ай бұрын
I feel like all modern BMW's are the same car, just variying size, power levels and price tags.😊
@Freddy_Confetti
@Freddy_Confetti 11 ай бұрын
Amazing to me that people criticize this cars looks but think the g81 looks great. Crazy lol
@fusrodahing1993
@fusrodahing1993 11 ай бұрын
Honestly like the look of this over most other BMWs. As a person who isn't really a fan of BMWs in general, this catches my eye as the most unique. Plus it's nice and small to zip around in
@Parthk6124
@Parthk6124 11 ай бұрын
the car looks like it had allergic to something XD ! accurate description 😂
@petersarian1577
@petersarian1577 10 ай бұрын
why didn't you rev the engine at 0:20?
@gati54uri094
@gati54uri094 7 ай бұрын
This car produces at BMW's Group plant which is located in Villa de los Reyes SLP, Mexico. But it's disappointing why manual config doesn't sell inside Mexican Market only for export to Gringolandia!
@gabegonzales8618
@gabegonzales8618 10 ай бұрын
So topher I’m actually in the market for the Supra manual but something about this M2 keeps peaking my interest. Since you’ve driven both. Which did you genuinely enjoy more? My car would be more of a weekend canyon toy/cruiser
@chrisginoc
@chrisginoc 10 ай бұрын
I have a 2023 Supra 6MT and my buddy has a 2023 M2 manual. Ask me anything.
@gabegonzales8618
@gabegonzales8618 10 ай бұрын
@@chrisginoc which do you enjoy driving more? I have a truck I use as a daily but would use the car more as a weekend driver! I plan to mod either car and know about the whole femto ordeal. That M2 looks good with some mods regardless of what other people say!
@chrisginoc
@chrisginoc 10 ай бұрын
@@gabegonzales8618 I'm 5' 9" and weight 200lbs. M2 Pros: More comfortable ride, more tech inside (pro and con for some people), more HP with the S58 twin turbo, planted extremely well at high speeds. M2 Cons: Cliche manual feels a little rubbery (I'd go automatic all day long with the M2), the Mods and parts are more expensive than the Supra, after market support is gonna take 2-3 years to catch on, just Google M2 exhaust or anything and you'll see what people call the "M tax" is very real when owning a true M car, weights 3,800lbs versus the Supra's 3,300lbs and even though it helps keep the car planted there is no denying it. Supra Pros: Driving position feels more true sports car cockpit down low and not a luxury ride, the hype of the 6MT shifter being the best is true (toyota engineers added their own shifter), the auto rev match is unbelievably good, you get up to speeds fast because of how light the car is (can't imagine unlocking and getting up to 550-600HP), handles so well in the canyons and corners. Supra Cons: Inside is crammed, not as spacious as the M2, B58 puts the power down faster and at lower speeds, but at higher speeds the S58 shines more because it has more top end. Never forget power to weight ratio which is why fixed up VW GTIs beat a lot of cars or fixed up Honda Civics blow by high end cars. If I could buy all over again, I would only go M2 (auto) if I would find it at msrp. I'll wait for the M2 CS in 2025, but the Supra 6MT gives me a lot of smiles per gallon shifting my own gears. I look for excuses to get it out of the garage and run errands for the wife LoL! Any excuse to drive it.
@marccandrift
@marccandrift 9 ай бұрын
M2 would be the better day to day daily activities.. that is all.. both are going to be a blast to drive, also saving more money with a supra is a factor
@maximus9401
@maximus9401 11 ай бұрын
this is going to sound crazy, but I'd love to know which 2 door manual RWD sports car is the better pick: the new Mustang GT performance pack or the M2. Or even the Camaro SS. If I was in the market, I'd cross shop them. I know they're very different approaches to a sports car. I think a comparison would be nice!
@John.Christopher
@John.Christopher 11 ай бұрын
Camero SS with 1LE package is AMAZING!
@UnrelatedNonsense
@UnrelatedNonsense 11 ай бұрын
The Mustang Mach1 is the better buy between the two.
@freddarau
@freddarau 11 ай бұрын
@@John.Christopher yeah put won't touch the new gt in performace, plus, parts for the camaro are going to stop being maufacured in 2025. which is massive downside.
@Chad11491
@Chad11491 11 ай бұрын
I had an S550 manual GT with a fully worked over suspension and tuned/headers/intake/full exhaust and moved to a G80 M3 manual and my M3 is way better in every way except the sound. It's noticeably faster, handles way better while not being as harsh, and it's way nicer inside. For the 5-6k price difference between a well optioned 24 GT premium and an M2, I'd take the M2 every time. The shifter is better than the MT-82, which I had no problems with, either. I loved my Mustang, don't get me wrong, but the price to performance is just not there with the price increase this gen.
@benjaminwiner6220
@benjaminwiner6220 11 ай бұрын
Never buy a BMW, their engines are plastic and melt. Mustang GT or Camaro SS is going to be the better ownership experience. Camaro SS has superior performance to the Mustang GT, but the Mustang GT is going to be easier/more comfortable to daily drive. Drive an SS to determine if you can live with the poor visibility. In fact, drive all three (perhaps even on the same day). Look into insurance costs and projected maintenance costs for each. Mustang GT is probably the best pick of the three to own. Never buy a brand new car, get a car that is between 3 and 5 years old.
@Shaxzara
@Shaxzara 11 ай бұрын
Fake Engine noise will never be okay!
@Shaxzara
@Shaxzara 11 ай бұрын
@@hassyg4083 i literately drive a V6 💀
@Shaxzara
@Shaxzara 11 ай бұрын
@@hassyg4083 good for you bro 👍🏼
@ARentz07
@ARentz07 11 ай бұрын
@@hassyg4083 I also have a V-8, and I prefer to listen to its natural sound, thanks.
@sssalharthi
@sssalharthi 3 ай бұрын
Question as the price for both vehicles is the same here so which one would you choose based on the driving experience … manual M2 2024 or Cadillacs CTS V5 black-wing 2024
@TP50000
@TP50000 8 ай бұрын
I testdrived both the M3 Touring and the M2. Is it only me, or is the steering wheel of the M2 an ounce smaller than the M3‘s?
@Veyronp87
@Veyronp87 11 ай бұрын
the manual is a bit of an afterthought in these new M cars. kind of thrown in just to appease enthusiasts. the 8 speed is definitely better. but this is most likely the last manual M car so thats special.
@John.Christopher
@John.Christopher 11 ай бұрын
Great video, but weighing as much as the M4 while having a detuned engine for the sake of slotting in the 2 series below is atrocious
@xFlared
@xFlared 11 ай бұрын
Do you think the M240i looks better than this?
@fransvisser2568
@fransvisser2568 4 ай бұрын
I am all for manuals but that gearbox make that car cumbersome and hard work. Stop driving it like you are scared of it!
@slappadabass1977
@slappadabass1977 10 ай бұрын
BMW missed the mark in this one badly. The last gen m2 was beautiful as you mentioned. This is nasty.
@paultruesdale7680
@paultruesdale7680 11 ай бұрын
Aside from the front it does look muscular! 3800lbs is ok for a non sport version, but not very impressive for an M2. Glad they went with the straight six. I’ll take it with the automatic, a quick shifting transmission and that much grip makes for a quick car. Not sure that the choice of colors does it for the styling. Red looks the best color and black, then the front end looks better. The red calipers and black wheels look tasty as well. 👍T
@reesecup4567
@reesecup4567 11 ай бұрын
that stupid flashing speed limit sign on the dash would annoy the hell out of me
@ARentz07
@ARentz07 11 ай бұрын
My wife's X3 has this. It is pretty annoying. I think there must be a way to turn it off.
@drepop803
@drepop803 9 ай бұрын
I'm in the market and this is my price range. Do you recommend the GR supra or m2? Both will be in manual form.
@nolanmattila6309
@nolanmattila6309 2 ай бұрын
m2 allll the way
@4040mwilson
@4040mwilson 11 ай бұрын
Looks like a diy body kit from the 90's
@niveketihw1897
@niveketihw1897 11 ай бұрын
I'm kind of glad my father isn't alive to see this kind of electronics package in cars. He HATED menus -- for example, he had a lot of electronic keyboards and synthesizers and highly preferred toggles, sliders, buttons, etc. to endless nested menus. I'll bet he never thought cars would require surfing through rounds of menus or asking the car nicely, to do basic things. I'm not too big of a fan either...
@yeboi2217
@yeboi2217 3 ай бұрын
it looks like it took the LEGO Flu lol
@busterb6562
@busterb6562 8 ай бұрын
Much better looking than the previous model.
@jayman3575
@jayman3575 6 ай бұрын
Would you prefer this or ct4vBW as a daily?
@nolanmattila6309
@nolanmattila6309 2 ай бұрын
the black wing would probably be more preferable just based on its practicality with more backseat space and larger trunk
@MoonRammer
@MoonRammer 8 ай бұрын
to me, i like the g87 much more than the f87. the only thing i dont like on this car, is the massive tv screen of a dashboard
@m3n4cE6
@m3n4cE6 11 ай бұрын
done
@rcktmn
@rcktmn 11 ай бұрын
dang, looks pretty smoky
@yogfloveme
@yogfloveme 6 ай бұрын
G87 M2?
@devinmarshall9818
@devinmarshall9818 10 ай бұрын
Looks weird. I like it!
@r1ckz0mb0
@r1ckz0mb0 11 ай бұрын
I wanted to love this car so much. Saw it in person in every color at the big press event in AZ earlier this year and......yeah. I agree with Topher and many other reviewers. It is not an attractive car and looks pretty dorky.
@JuniorJr...
@JuniorJr... 11 ай бұрын
😂 True! It looks like its had an allergic reaction and its face got swollen! Not the most beautiful BMW, but at least brings excitement while driving, especially because it's a manual transmission.
@auggith
@auggith 10 ай бұрын
honestly the design really isn’t that bad. the rear does look rather bloated and just too squared off in places. other than that, it’s not too bad. the weight is the biggest disappointment to me
@vipermoon_
@vipermoon_ 11 ай бұрын
2:53 Why are there two!!!???
@steverogers7211
@steverogers7211 Күн бұрын
Oh my lord what did they do to that front end..
@pocholodimaano2133
@pocholodimaano2133 10 ай бұрын
I'm less than a minute into the video making this comment, the a-pillar speakers look like they're from in my dads accord
@joeytuono3347
@joeytuono3347 11 ай бұрын
Dealer by me has 1 " USED " listed at 89k lol
@joeyh7796
@joeyh7796 11 ай бұрын
mcclumpha!!
@dave11686
@dave11686 11 ай бұрын
Drove one in 2019 at an M-town event, so awesome
@mujjuman
@mujjuman 11 ай бұрын
rev hang in modern cars is a deal breaker for me
@anthonyreams8945
@anthonyreams8945 11 ай бұрын
Looks like a Lego M2
@abhishekpawar5126
@abhishekpawar5126 10 ай бұрын
This is the best looking BMW on sale today
@chriswoollet
@chriswoollet 10 ай бұрын
I hate those huge screens in the dash. It’s obnoxious, doesn’t flow with the dash and look at the ad placements on the right side. Tacky
@irelax8595
@irelax8595 3 ай бұрын
62.200 MSRP is around 53000 EURO. Funny thing is, the new M2's are 100.000 EURO in Holland. What the hell is going on lmfao.
@OnTheRocks71
@OnTheRocks71 11 ай бұрын
Can really see the wildfire smoke, this summer has been crazy around here. Oh yeah, the car. I'm sure it's fantastic in a lot of ways but when I look at it I want to puke. ::shrug::
@user-je4dc9tf4h
@user-je4dc9tf4h 7 ай бұрын
This car went to the wrong barber, messed up the BMW moustache lol
@yume6969
@yume6969 9 ай бұрын
You gotta be more gentle with that clutch
@pjrupert
@pjrupert 11 ай бұрын
You know the mic is good when the interior rattles almost ruin the whole video 😬
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