2023 Mach 1 vs 2024 Dark Horse

In this video I compare my s550 Mach 1 to the new s650 Dark Horse. Would you change your Mach 1 for a Dark Horse ??
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[@Trbochv69]

The Mach 1 is perfect. I have the HPP Mach 1 and no way Ill trade it in

[@icemach1964]

Hi, thanks for watching my video

[@icemach1964]

Hi, firstly thanks for your service. I love driving and owning my Mach 1, puts a smile on my face every time I go out in it. It's so interesting to see people's reactions to the new Dark Horse. I applaud Ford for keeping up the V8 engine cars where other manufacturers have stopped production. I Hope Ford will make some changes to the interior of the car and maybe bring back the Boss. I'm in the same position as you as I'm not a young guy but I have a few American cars on my bucket list I would really like to own and enjoy driving. Thanks for watching my video 👍🏼

[@BENEFIT20]

I will keep my 2022 Dark Matter Gray Metallic with the handling pack 6 speed for many years to come. I also have the 2024 GT Convertible Carbonized Gray Metallic 10 speed auto. I have seen the dark horse in person and it is a beautiful machine but it is not for me- simply put- I am satisfied with my 2 stangs. I plan to enjoy my convertible for at least another three years. My first car was a 1965 convertible corvette 327 engine with a blue hard top and a white soft top that I had for 21 years (sold and bought a house in Orlando FL). I am 67 yrs old former US Navy Submariner retired so I don't have time to procrastinate. The Mach 1 is special!!!

[@icemach1964]

Hi, thanks for the info. I'm actually going to look at a DH at the end of the month as one will arrive at my local Ford dealer. I'm going to make a side by side comparison and hopefully a test drive so I can actually comment on the difference and likes / dislikes, thanks for watching 👍🏼

[@rustyrollo9110]

Quite happy with my 2022 Mach 1 with the Handling Package and 6 speed, had it out at Canadian Tire Motor Sport Track (Mosport) in Ontario, great fun for a guy at 67 years young.

[@icemach1964]

@@rustyrollo9110 Hi, glad you can enjoy your car, I want to take mine to a track day in the future, thanks for watching 👍🏼

[@ulissesmaverick1833]

Olá. Tudo bem? Respondendo a sua pergunta eu particulamente prefiro o MACH 1 do que o DARK HORSE.

[@peterpring-shambler6160]

Keep your Mach 1. Dark Horse is up 20HP, but up 200lbs in weight

[@icemach1964]

Hi, the DH is detuned for Europe so it looks like it's less HP than the Mach 1. I'm going to make a comparison video at the end of the month at my Ford dealership, please stay tuned, thanks for watching

[@hpkntnw]

I’m keeping my Mach 1. I sat in a new S650 premium and with the giant screen it feels like a video game as the screen occupies so much of the dash.

[@icemach1964]

@@hpkntnw Hi, yes that's what I was expecting, thanks for watching

[@saleen367]

It really depends on whether you prefer the looks of the DH. Performance will likely be better with your Mach 1 since you've upgraded to HP. Its really a subjective decision. I prefer the Mach 1 ... exterior, interior and value.

[@icemach1964]

@@saleen367 Hi, I agree about the M1. I'm trying to track down a Dark Horse so I can make a comparison and maybe make a video, thanks for watching 👍🏼

[@CoyoteAUS]

Keep the Mach 1 S550 you have. Its custom tuneable and has a nice dash

[@icemach1964]

Hi, I agree, thanks for watching

[@jimbinder7472]

I really love your Mach1 my friend. There seems to be a lot of issues with the 2024 Mustangs. I would keep the one you have if I was you.

[@icemach1964]

@@jimbinder7472 Hi, I looked at a Dark Horse recently, I liked it but not enough to change. It's also €12k more than my Mach 1. Thanks for watching 👍🏼

[@jimbinder7472]

@@icemach1964 Thanks for replying to my comment. Many reactors don’t do that. I don’t like the new digital info display in the new Mustangs. Any problems with your Stang yet? Love the color of your car. Since I live in the USA I would have license plates with P51 on them .

[@icemach1964]

@@jimbinder7472 Hi Jim, I think the digital dash will be how many cars look going forward. Personally I don't like AC / radio controls included in the digital dad, it's to distracting. Also the dash and gloss black get covered in finger prints. My M1 is great, no issues as yet. 👍🏼

[@shawncorradini5129]

A guy can only dream of one of these cars. For now I’ll be staying w my 03 Mach 1.

[@icemach1964]

Good choice, thanks for watching 👍🏼

[@patrickfabrie1573]

I agree if you have a Mach1 don't upgrade to a darkhorse but in my case as I do not have a Mustang yet, I'm thinking about buying the Darkhorse. I vist Garum Motor in Malaga and they had a darkhorse deliverd in september but they also told me that they could order one from Ford Germany in the color I would like with a maximum waiting time of 3 months. They also gave me an price for the darkhorse in grabber bleu 75.007€ no recaro seats but with all the taxes included. I have the estimate if you want I can always send you a copy. As for discount they offered 4 years warranty en 4 year of service free

[@icemach1964]

@@patrickfabrie1573 Hi Patrick, good to hear from you. I would take what the dealership say with a pinch of salt, they told me 8 months that ended up being 1 year and 4 months! I'm sure you can get 5 years guarantee, they gave me 7 years on my car. I would like to actually see one, I will ask the dealership and maybe make a video of it, thanks 👍🏼

[@rldeppe1]

I just installed headers and got an e85 on my mach 1. You should do that. It REALLY woke the car up. Increased 60 to 130 time by 1.5 seconds

[@icemach1964]

Hi, it would be good to do that but as I live in Spain E85 is not going to be easy to get, I have not seen it offered here to be honest. Also the emissions laws are strict and I don't want an issue with the Ford guarantee so I can't fit hedders. I wish Ford would offer an official tune package for the M1 with ECU and other mods to boost the HP over 500. Thanks for watching 👍🏼

[@zeksel1]

Hi! I’m literally looking for a Mach 1 just like yours. I live in the area of Girona. By any chance, when (even if in a year or so) you decide to sell your Mach 1 I’d be interested in purchasing it. Not sure how to get in contact with you!?

[@icemach1964]

@@zeksel1 Hi, if I do decide to sell my car I will certainly let you know. For now I am enjoying it, puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. My email is [e-mail], thanks for watching 👍🏼

[@KuranGamerTV]

I will keep the EcoBoost Mustang.

[@FernandoVazquez-jp3uj]

Me too lol

[@KuranGamerTV]

Alright.

[@terrillwebb2807]

If you're happy with the Mach 1 I'd keep it. I don't know anything about the darkhourse but even if it's a little better than the Mach 1 you can't utilize that much power on city streets.

[@icemach1964]

Hi Terrill, I agree 100%, let's see what Ford release in 2025, BOSS??? Thanks for watching

[@Marrs47]

I agree. I’ve taken my GT on the autobahn in Germany. Honestly, 450 horsepower is great even without speed limits. There’s still traffic so you can only do so much.

[@KuranGamerTV]

I'm getting the Ford Mustang EcoBoost on 2026 for a FREE Test Drive!! < D

[@icemach1964]

Great, thanks for watching

[@iamkingrichard2032]

No please don't. I have the same as yours with bigger AP Performance GT500 with track package style rear spoiler.

[@icemach1964]

@@iamkingrichard2032 Hi, I'm really happy with the Mach 1, there is nothing about the car I would change apart from a Ford dealership tune if that was available to get a bit more N/A power. Just exploring the options. I really need to see a Dark Horse to be honest. Thanks for watching

[@jacoborodriguezcouto1270]

Mach1 its the best

[@icemach1964]

👍🏼 Thanks for watching

[@ocasio3024]

God NO! Keep the Mach 1. You can get her up to 500HP very inexpensively. I went ahead and On3 Twin Turbo’d mine. Went from 500hp to 1105HP. But originally, with minimal upgrades to get to 500hp, it’s a very special car. Keep the Mach Sir!

[@icemach1964]

@@ocasio3024 Hi, OMG 1100HP 😬, I cannot imagine what it's like to drive. How did you get to 500HP? Thanks for watching 👍🏼

[@alpally]

If you can afford have both 😃😍

[@icemach1964]

@@alpally Hi, I wish it was possible, thanks for watching

[@sportsterrider2087]

If I owned a Mach 1 I would not trade for a Dark Horse. I have a 2017 GT that I just bought. I would like to add as many Mach 1 features as possible.

[@icemach1964]

@@sportsterrider2087 nice idea, thanks for watching 👍🏼

[@vector409]

lovin' your car 👍

[@icemach1964]

@@vector409 Hi, im lucky I have the weather to enjoy it, thanks for watching 👍🏼

[@savyconstruction]

Did you say tuned down to 155 hp or tuned down 155 hp or tuned down to 455 hp?? Sorry I can’t hear it properly.

[@icemach1964]

@savyconstruction Hi, I the USA the DH is 500 HP. In Europe it's de tuned to 455 HP due to emissions laws. Thanks for watching

[@lawrencehayden753]

Mach 1 keep it

[@icemach1964]

@@lawrencehayden753 Hi, I will be making a video a out the Dark Horse soon, stay tuned 👍🏼

[@goguasha]

Since they don't offer the Handling Package in Europe, could you please tell us how you managed to upgrade your Mach 1 to the handling package ? Did you import all the needed parts one by one from USA, or what needs to be done ? They are doing the same thing for the S650 platform, there is no handling package available for EU version of the mustang... I personally would like to get it simply for the bigger wheels and the gurney flap on the spoiler, but they simply aren't available for Europe... i am forced to receive a 255/40 R19 and 275/40 R19 wheels, compared to 305 and 315 from the handling pack.... such a pity!!!

[@icemach1964]

@@goguasha Hi, I actually got everything I needed to upgrade my car from Nemesis UK and shipped it to Spain. You can also get everything from Steeda UK, they ship out of Germany. Im sure they will both offer the HP for the Dark Horse, thanks for watching

[@Cali4rniadreaming]

I sold my Shelby GT350 wasn't using at the time but I'm looking to buy another mustang I'm looking at the Mach 1 because the price has gone down but will be a used one and my shelby i bought used and didn't like much that's why now im more inclined to buy a 650 new i just haven't decided if I'll go for the Dark Horse or get a premium GT and build my own The more you look the 650 the more you will like it even the interior you have to see in person and also upgrades will come in the future don't worry ideal you be to keep the mach 1 and get a 650 maybe just the GT

[@icemach1964]

@@Cali4rniadreaming Hi, I am actually going to my Ford dealer at the end of the month because he has given me access to film a new DH that will arrive then. I'm going to do a side by side video, please stay tuned, thanks for watching

[@WayneStinson-m2u]

Yes

[@jessicaphoenix1312]

Looks like the darkhorse learned from the Elantra N and got the great screen. Hopefully it has all the tech and gauges to track performance, too. I'm thinking about buying a darkhorse and since I'm in the US it seems like the right thing to do.

[@icemach1964]

Hi, for you lucky guys and girls in the USA you get more HP and options, so I agree with you, thanks for watching

[@Marrs47]

Absolutely not. I wouldn’t trade in my GT for a dark horse. Every control is on the touch screen and the ugly big button. It’s also not worth the additional $ for the minimal horsepower increase. Buy a slightly used Shelby instead.

[@icemach1964]

Hi, good idea about the Shelby, thanks for watching

[@johnguiver116]

Keep the Mach 1, interior is way better than the Dark Horse and I think it looks better, rear end of the 2024 is ugly...

[@icemach1964]

Hi John, I agree about the interior, the outside is growing on me, but I need to see the car TBH, thanks for watching

[@bcuzimfromva1]

What year is your mustang

[@icemach1964]

@@johnguiver116Hi, I agree, thanks for watching 👍🏼

[@icemach1964]

@@bcuzimfromva1 Hi, it's a 2023, thanks

[@philharris4504]

Absolutely not. I love my Mach 1. Especially the interior. It’s more Mustang to me. I like the retro, old school look to it. It’s just more my taste though. And taste is relative I suppose. I think the Mach 1 is perfect.

[@icemach1964]

Hi Phil, the M1 is the last performance version of the S550 and Ford really did a great job. I think as EVs are phased in these cars will become more sort after, thanks for watching 👍🏼

[@samnwo1525]

No Way … Mach 1 has Pedigree … Dark Horse don’t have shit even the name is balls.

[@icemach1964]

@@samnwo1525 let's hope Ford bring back the Boss before the V8 is gone, thanks for watching

[@samnwo1525]

Yes they should indeed

[@timgenz2849]

It’s not worth the money difference to trade in or even sell outright to get the Dark Horse 🐎

[@icemach1964]

@@timgenz2849 Hi, to be honest I would need to drive a DH to answer that. I am hoping to locate one here and maybe get a trust drive, stay tuned, thanks

[@Cardoso71875]

The mach 1 looks so much better than the darkhorse.

[@icemach1964]

Hi, I agree, thanks for watching

[@cmdrdredd]

When you can’t tune any of the 2024 cars, hell no

[@icemach1964]

It's sad because the EU spec cars are detuned so I'm hoping Ford Europe will offer official tunes? Time will tell, thanks for watching

[@antoniogrullon7404]

S550 look better so far than de S650... and it's same chasis, just some updates features.

[@icemach1964]

Hi Antonio, my thoughts exactly, thanks for watching

[@everydayjeeper6583]

Nope. I’d definitely keep the Mach 1. I’ve got a 21 Mach 1 and wouldn’t trade it for a Dark Horse.

[@icemach1964]

@@everydayjeeper6583 thanks for watching 👍🏼

[@genuian]

Keep the Mach 1 😊😊

[@icemach1964]

@@genuian Hi, it's what I'm thinking, thanks for watching 👍🏼

[@wadeayoub9799]

i did the research as well and the Dark Horse is definitely a better car, especially with all the upgrades in it ( you can research them as i will not list them. We can't get the track package but you can get the the Appearance package which is better than the standard Dark Horse. i came extremely close to buying a Mach1 exactly like yours but opted for the Dark Horse in the appearance package. Both great cars 100% but if you are going to compare engines and upgrades, the Dark Horse is better. And yes, you will be able to tune them down the track, as info came from inside information. Either way, enjoy your car, it's a beauty.

[@cmdrdredd]

No, you can’t tune it. Instant L

[@wadeayoub9799]

@@cmdrdredd i know, that is not what i said, read my comment again. i said it will be able to be tuned in the future, this is inside info from a Ford technician.

[@icemach1964]

@@wadeayoub9799 Hi, yes the Gen 4 engine is updated. Sad about the 45HP power loss in Europe. Let's hope Ford offers a tune or supercharger the car, thanks for watching

[@VictoriasCantina]

It’s down-tuned for Europe? How lame!

[@icemach1964]

I agree, emisions laws are like California in Europe, thanks for watching

[@iamkingrichard2032]

If you do you have to change your name to ICE DARKHORSE. What ya think?

[@icemach1964]

@@iamkingrichard2032 If I change the car that would be top of my list 👍🏼

[@seandevereux2161]

don't do it you will regret it I'm sure I defiantly wouldn't

[@icemach1964]

@@seandevereux2161 Hi Sean, I have had many American cars and regretted selling most of them. I need to see the Dark Horse but I don't think the Mach 1 will be leaving my garage. Thanks for watching 👍🏼

[@jonyfrommars]

Hi ICE. A M1 Will always be special. The detuned S650 is an ugly pointless video game. 'Nough Said.....

[@icemach1964]

Hi Jony, how's it going. Some people are saying that the M1 could be the last real modern muscle car and I agree with them. I think this is a modern collectors car due to its ability to be tuned and it's design. Thanks for watching the video 👍🏼

[@jonyfrommars]

@@icemach1964 Exactly. Just because it is new does not mean better. Your car is fantastic and Will be worth more than the S650 in a couple of years. I have a JF grey M1 and Will never Jump on that DH train.....enjoy it. Cheers

[@Californiakev]

I’ll keep the Mach 1 and maybe wait until 2025 or even 2026

[@icemach1964]

@@Californiakev absolutely, thanks for watching

[@mrgilmore6953]

Mach 1 is better

[@jessenitzske8617]

Keep the mach 1

[@icemach1964]

👍🏼😉