2023 Miami Boat Show - Sub-$100K 24 to 25 Foot Fishing Center Consoles

[@CaptainLeonsBoatingandMore]

The concern with wet slipping a jet propelled boat is that the drive system consists of an impeller reliant on a smooth flow of water through the intake grate beneath the boat. With the inevitable build up of growth below the waterline it can impact the functionality of the jet pump system. Short term or intermittent wet slipping for a few days at a time is not terribly problematic. Among the benefits of this propulsion system, and this boat, is the fact that these twin Yamaha engines provide 180 hp each, and as a direct drive system with no gearing, belts, water pumps, etc., it is virtually maintenance free with the exception of yearly oil changes. Additionally, the ability to move through skinny water and glide over sandbars is unmatched to any vessel with a protruding drive. I'd be happy to answer any questions your viewers have regarding these vessels.

[@fierceflyer5]

Completely agree about all the pluses of a Yamaha which also includes low fuel consumption, Leon(really enjoy your channel btw). One big minus, especially in Fla. is the floating & slightly submerged weeds will get into the intake. Yes it does have an easily accessible clean out, but you may have to do it several times during a trip certain times of the year which is a big PITA. I do respectfully disagree with John’s pick. IMO Bayliners are crap. Luckily I’ve never owned one, but I have used them many times. Fit & finish is awful, the ride is horrible as is their comfort. I’d buy a used (yeah I know just like cars now) boat over a new Bayliner. Now I have teens so I own a wakeboard boat which makes all the boats shown look like a bargain LOL. Can’t wait until I can get another fishing boat.

[@CaptainLeonsBoatingandMore]

@@fierceflyer5 good point. Here on Long Island, NY waterways I have had an occasional event where I needed to pull some sea grass out of the clean out port after experiencing cavitation. In 9 seasons with this boat I may have had to do it 3-5 times. Only took a minute and we were off, that being said ingestion in dirty water is a concern.

[@jiggingjerks]

@@fierceflyer5 I don’t disagree with you on the fit and finish of Bayliners. Historically though, their trophy series has always been built a little bit better. This one actually has a very aggressive dead rise. Time will tell how well these last.

[@Aaron.Davis56]

Twin 250 HP, 500 total on the Supercharged Yammies.

[@sapelesteve]

Thanks for showing us around John. Those boat prices are still very high IMHO! The only way to purchase a boat today is to go for a used rig! 👍👍

[@mulletoutdooradventures6286]

The trophy isn't terrible. I went out on one of those 24s last year. We ran 30 miles offshore in some less then ideal conditions and it handled very well

[@YDvette]

Dont know why Seapro was not in the boat show. I got a 2022 seapro 239 DLX fully loaded for fishing. Extra rod holders 2 12” simrads even taco outriggers with a suk 300 and paid 100k including the trailer. You cant beat that for a small boat. Im super happy with the purchase.

[@garystritt5750]

I have been looking hard at the sea pro 239, how’re you liking it? How does it handle and is it a dry boat?

[@shawnboisclair3696]

Always fun to dream about dream boats. The cost is insane but obviously people have the money. Nice meeting you at the RI show, tight lines.

[@aloissuter1071]

Great job captain! Thanks for a realistic review!

[@islandrevo]

My choice would be trophy. Good looking boat great price!!!

[@jiggingjerks]

Agree

[@duffmeister3373]

Unless they made major design improvements, I wouldn’t touch a Trophy boat. Fish boxes and bait wells that don’t drain directly out, are a big problem, batteries and electrics have to be in a dry area, pumps, switches and fuses have to be easily accessible. On the water the ride has to be dry. In my opinion most boats that look sharp with lots of bling ( which makes them more expensive ) lack in functionality .

[@mattgauvin7842]

Boy that helm area is tight

[@bigguydiy2184]

I got on the Yamaha 255 in the CT boat show back in Feb and being 6'3" at 290 lbs, I found it to cramped. Especially between the helm seat and steering wheel. I was sad about that, because it is a very nice boat.

[@sharonbraselton4302]

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[@sharonbraselton4302]

get wgaler 285 2 ixe 300 hp jet outdoards

[@sharonbraselton4302]

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[@sharonbraselton4302]

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[@deantravis6217]

Good to see you in Rhode Island John. Make sure Skinner knows you sold two dark matter Skinner jigging poles for him. Lol..

[@jiggingjerks]

Hahaha…same Dean

[@yosvy305]

Yamaha boats very nice,but the issue with them, you can't trim the boat well on rough seas,not as good as an outboard.

[@jamesps7515]

That skiff was 40k fully loaded at the AC boat show in 2019. These dealers and companies are really sticking it to their customers it’s sad. We sold our CC and bout a 30’ express style boat for the comfort of winter toggin. Not hating on your channel at all still love your content and appreciate these boat show videos! Thanks John we’re this close 🤏🏻 to fluking time.

[@jiggingjerks]

No I get it! I remember the Cobia 280 being 149 in 2020 at the Miami Show. Was almost 300 last month at same show.

[@jamesps7515]

@@jiggingjerks WHAT?!?! That’s insane. We bought used but it’s in immaculate condition with low hours and paid 70k fully loaded, generator, radar twin simrads. Boat weighs 13k loaded think we’ll get away with a trolling motor? The rodon we’d have to use because the shaft length but other people say we can use a trolling motor. I want your opinion because your boat is longer but I know we’re heavier and it’s really all about the weight you’re trying to hold still.

[@Aaron.Davis56]

The Yamaha is a Twin 250HP Jet Drive

[@jiggingjerks]

Yup…the HO version of the 1.8 liter jet drive (times 2)

[@johnurso5184]

How about the tidewater 232cc. It's 23' 8" with a yamaha f250 and hardtop for 85k. I have the 22cc with f200 and love it !!

[@jiggingjerks]

My buddy paid close to 140 for the same boat.

[@johnurso5184]

@Jigging Jerks wow, I guess it's a supply and demand thing. I don't think these dealers are going to be able to demand those prices this spring but who knows.

[@jiggingjerks]

@@johnurso5184 definitely supply and demand. He got quoted something like three months from order to finish, and it took over 14 months and all along the way, the price of everything kept increasing

[@johnurso5184]

@Jigging Jerks crazy !! I traded in my 198cc for the 220cc in Feb 2021. Got the boat and venture trailer for 70k. Last year that same dealer told me he was running out of boats and sold the same model for 110k each then resorted to selling pontoon boats to people boating the G S B. .. thus year he's making deals again tho, so he must have ordered and received a bunch of models.

[@jiggingjerks]

@@johnurso5184 I also think the higher interest rates, and the uncertain economy is going to knock demand down quite a bit, which hopefully will lead to a normalization of prices again

[@stevewestphal7515]

Do you happen to recall the price of the Yamaha 222 FSH that was next to this one?

[@jiggingjerks]

I don’t unfortunately

[@stevenpendergast2932]

Go for the pursuit, then default on the payments. Let me report man catch you. Then can ask for a bailout

[@jiggingjerks]

Someone’s been thinking about this, huh? Sadly, with all the free money, the government was giving out during Covid. I’m sure a lot of people got boats this way, or for free, especially those that owned businesses.

[@tommyo8068]

What’s your thoughts about Tidewater boats???

[@jiggingjerks]

My friend Todd just bought one. He’s been less than impressed with their fit and finish. I do think they are OK from a value proposition.

[@stephenleone2375]

No Wellcraft boats, or are they over the price limit?

[@jiggingjerks]

So many boats at the Show….unfortunately can’t get through all the brands

[@t-bone5522]

196,000 my A$$

[@duffmeister3373]

Wow if those are considered affordable, I guess I’m below the poverty line. How bout something < 23’ ? Thanks

[@sharonbraselton4302]

prolibe 23 walk ariub cabun

[@Miami_Chris]

boat prices have gone insanely high recently but you also have to remember a typical boat loan is 240 months, although I wouldn't suggest taking 20 years to pay off a boat because the interest will prob be about the original price of the boat.

[@gennerobootz6490]

I wanna get a boat

[@gennerobootz6490]

Aren’t bay liners crap ?

[@jiggingjerks]

They’re not Yelliwfins

[@jamess3532]

Compared to slightly more expensive boats they are. Fit and finish is subpar and you don't get the same lasting quality as with some other manufacturers. I own a Bayliner.... I won't buy another one.

[@gennerobootz6490]

@@jamess3532 I always heard they have problems

[@gennerobootz6490]

@@jiggingjerks my dad always said never buy Bayliner

[@gennerobootz6490]

I really like the pursuits

[@wireless1235]

Almost unwatchable with the poor audio.

[@jiggingjerks]

Really? I had a mic on and played it at home and it sounded fine. What was wrong with the audio?

[@duffmeister3373]

@@jiggingjerks your commentary is much louder than your voice reviewing the boats. But that’s ok Deaf people like me like it loud, can always turn it down. Good job. Thanks.

[@jiggingjerks]

@@duffmeister3373 hahaha, I just ordered a new external mic for these shows. Let’s see if it does a better job than the one I’ve been using.

[@wireless1235]

@@jiggingjerks As mentioned your voice on the boat was almost inaudible in comparison to your voice over.

[@jiggingjerks]

@@wireless1235 thanks again for the honest feedback. I have a top-of-the-line Rode microphone coming in that I will use for future videos. It’s weird, because I hear it fine but enough people are complaining that I will change it up.