2024 Box Office - Venom 3 Opening Weekend, Agatha All Along & The Penguin Ratings UPDATE

[@vloggie300]

I don’t think it’s superhero fatigue, Venom 3 had a B- and Joker 2 had a D Cinemascore, audiences are just becoming more aware of what’s worth their time, being ok or fine isn’t enough anymore, you have to be a huge crowd pleaser like Deadpool 3 to get big box office now, if anything this should be a sign to work harder to earn comic book movie goers trust again

[@SeansWorld420]

i think if Hollywood at least tried to adapt a lot of these stories faithfully, people would at least give them the benefit of the doubt. But to have a Venom trilogy with no Spiderman makes no sense at all.

[@vloggie300]

@@SeansWorld420 I agree, I think one of the main examples that started this downward trend was how they botched the Secret Invasion storyline, at least that’s when my normie family and friends started to become less interested

[@nailinthefashion]

But Deadpool/Wolvie wasn't ambitious at all, that's the trade off. In a conceptual sense I much prefer the more unorthodox stories, but they have to execute it in a more palatable, unique way. It makes no sense to go halfway on a musical or just "more Venom" when there's much more fun, even easier stories to be told

[@emanuelrodriguez9044]

At least Venom has a chance of breaking even, the Joker 2 situation is just really sad.

[@jkbell87]

I agree. I love Superhero movies. They’ve just fallen greatly in quality. I thought the first two Venom movies were terrible and shouldn’t have been made and was annoyed by them doing this one. Sony has fumbled Spiderman stories over and over. They need to stop.

[@hefellfromneptune]

i think people are more A24 horror fans than they are A24 fans

[@JHolt_88]

Exactly. A24 has a whole lot to offer when it comes to variety in movies, across all genres.

[@MysticMayne]

You don’t speak for me, i own/enjoy plenty of A24 films that aren’t horror

[@pb.j.1753]

Did anyone watch The Front Room?

[@mk6rfc1]

@@pb.j.1753 i dont know if it made money but if you look at the ratings it seems anyone who watched it didnt like it

[@mythicalsalmon3621]

I think casuals are A24 horror fans and actual fans are A24 fans

[@Mad_Beefs]

Grace… Alien Romulus’ numbers weren’t low. It’s the second highest in the series. The last apes movie was successful too. That’s why they are getting sequels

[@TheMaestroMizerous]

Grace: Sell the rights Disney!

[@antimer6799]

Adjusted for inflation it looks like it's the 5th highest (probably end up 4th)

[@antimer6799]

@@joselitoluis7727 you do if you want to be accurate and not a fanboy

[@Jbreezzyyy]

Adjusting for inflation is stupid when you have to factor in the economy and where society is at. Such a dumb argument

[@therealeverton]

@antimer6799 > It is the 4th highest (adjusted) now and not that far off 3rd (it probably won't reach 3rd, but it's just a few million $ away). Coming after the film that was the lowest and fell 40% from Prometheus, that is a huge achievement.

[@derf0007]

I thinks it’s just because we’re all broke lol 😂

[@CuriuosKoala]

Right. The fact that this is constantly left out of the conversation is so frustrating lol

[@dante6985]

Ehhh.. I have little interest in anything this month. I saw Wild Robot (good) and Transformers One (surprisingly solid). Venom 3 I wouldn't care about unless it had stellar word of mouth because Venom 2 sucked. Terrifier, no. Smile 2, no. Just nothing I want to see.

[@niemand9362]

And exchange rates.

[@ikexbankai]

@@CuriuosKoalathat’s not it. At all

[@NathanLeeJames]

That and the theater experience in most places is awful, mostly due to the other patrons not knowing how to act.

[@hjermsted22]

The World Series is particularly hot this year because of the two legendary teams facing off against each other (first time in 43 years) AND because the nation of Japan is fully tuned in to see Shohei Ohtani's first appearance in the big series. There are other reasons and other nations involved but those are the two big ones.

[@Rainmaker205]

“The two legendary teams” 🙄 whatever. Dodgers aren’t even in the top 5 in championships, behind the Giants and Cardinals in the National League. Your Ohtani comment is correct though. Also, these teams are in the two biggest markets, so the national media is hyping this up as much as they can.

[@everburn]

What's the world series?

[@natsohigh5552]

Superhero fatigue only seems to be mentioned when the films flops 😂

[@YeahItsJhon]

On point!

[@BluePrada]

Here yall go pretending like they make as much as they used to

[@申月営無営月無営有申]

Almost like that's the point 😂😂😂😂

[@goldsearcher7606]

Maybe because they’re bad movies, which Deadpool & Wolverine is not

[@aquasky77]

Not just when films flop but when bad films flop.

[@Rookerooki]

I think Agatha will be on the overall in the next few weeks. Deadline just released an article that the viewership for ep 7 was up 35%. The finale with 2 episodes will also boost it which was smart of Disney.

[@tash936]

People might be waiting to binge watch too

[@crestedargo4663]

Well, honestly episode 7 was up 35% (probably) compared to episode 6, but we don't know how low episode 6 went... We will see on Nielsen in 3 weeks (or 4 weeks...? I never know with Nielsen)

[@tuni16tuni]

@@crestedargo4663 The article actually said it had a 35% increase compared to its first episode not to episode 6

[@MiddletonPlays]

@@tash936 I definitely am!

[@JoshPinder92]

I started my binge tonight in the lead up to Halloween

[@tenerife_sea]

Grace's hair and outfit looks so good here 🤌🏼

[@LeaLeaA7]

Right, it isn’t that messy blow out look for once. I like this.

[@bloomins8088]

Respectfully, Grace is always so pretty, imo. I love how she does her make up.

[@terrymcginnis01]

Respectfully, is this a makeup hair/outfit channel for men to praise Grace on how beautiful she is? Or is this a movie news channel? There are always a lot of comments by males just objectifying Grace.

[@bloomins8088]

@@terrymcginnis01 I'm a woman... I can appreciate the skill in her eye makeup and praise a fellow lady while also enjoying her breakdowns of movies.

[@renatenha]

Her hair is beautiful

[@DevilishDevi]

The thing that grace is missing is that Agatha started with two episodes and is normally half hour episodes. So the following week was going to be a dip since there is half as much content to watch.

[@sandal_thong8631]

I think she said when the numbers first came out they were kind of funny since there were two episodes and it wasn't broken down to see if people bailed after episode one.

[@knighthawk3749]

A lot of people I know are waiting to binge the series on Halloween. Also the show is amazing with each episode being better than the one before and the last episode was the best one yet. I think it's getting a lot of good word of mouth. I see a lot more reactors watching it that never reacted to this type of content until now.

[@bankansh]

I mean, domestic box office is not the end of all things, the movie is riding high on overseas markets. It has already done 175M on a 120M budget in the first week. Sometimes the domestic market doesn't tell the whole picture. There is an appetite for Venom (no pun intended), just not in the domestic market.

[@daviskaedrick4830]

I hate when people only consider domestic numbers

[@johnv6759]

MUBI released Substance. That's why they have the streaming rights.

[@erskine1984]

Wasn't Grace suggesting last week that Venom would open in the 20s. It doesn't by $30M and she still criticises it 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Jbreezzyyy]

Also grace: wow twisters did amazing Alien Romulus: wow it did terribly Her takes can be absolutely terrible at times. Just watch for the numbers not for her opinions

[@smallies7154]

@@Jbreezzyyy uncle chael and auntie grace takes are wild man 😂😂

[@ezravldina3467]

​@Jbreezzyyy to be fair, she cares more about domestic box office as most income would be from domestic box office rather than international, so she is right in some ways

[@agm771]

Fun fact: the World Series got 9-ish million viewers in the US but it got more than 12 million viewers in Japan alone because Otani is part of the Dodgers. And Venom 3 doesn’t get released in Japan until November 1 …

[@Uphere-do9zh]

Grace’s hair is GORGEOUS in this vid!!!

[@MelancholicAwesomnes]

It really is!

[@bronzetiger6360]

Yes Lord❤

[@AnthonyScott5425]

💯 Couldn't agree more!

[@RuddFoxx]

Jesus what is this spam bot crap about Graces hair? Why do people keep saying hair hair hair hair hair hair. Get a grip. holy

[@MelancholicAwesomnes]

@@RuddFoxx Tbh, Graces hair can be ever so slightly messy but today it looks really nice and people are pointing it out.

[@ricardocesteves4138]

So... youre telling me that superhero content without the actual superheros (batman, spidey, wanda) dont grab people?

[@nischesharma]

Whaattttt?????

[@TheCharlesMerritt]

Tbf the first Joker made over a billion dollars… So it can work - just depends on who the character is and the quality of the film

[@stevendufour]

*surprised pikachu face*

[@pookiesis1465]

I think its the fact of scraping the bottom of the barrel. A venom without spiderman? A joker without Batman? Why are we making bad guys good guys?

[@Jerry11011]

Just decreasing margin of return in relation to its predecessors. It did have a lower budget and it should do relatively well long term.

[@PaballoKobe-xh9ve]

Made money last time

[@emanuelrodriguez9044]

Joker is still the bad guy in the Joker films, he is just the main character. Venom had been a actually superhero for decades now.

[@e3vL1]

It told tickets before

[@pookiesis1465]

@@e3vL1 yes, before, not now

[@TereGenesis]

I think the Agatha numbers would be higher if the episodes weren't so short.

[@youngstar312]

she consistently does not take runtime into account. That's stupid. If 1M people watch an 30min episode and 1M people watch a 60min ep, of course the second one will be placed much higher in this chart, but that's not the truth...

[@therealeverton]

@TereGenesis Agatha is doing just fine for a show of that size.

[@sandal_thong8631]

Well, my thought is that each episode needs to do something: "In this episode such-and-such happens." And I think _Agatha All Along_ was built that way. But we'll see where it goes, if anywhere. "It was all just a dream," won't cut it for me.

[@ICU1337]

@@youngstar312 you can make all the excuses you want but at the end of the day, you're either on the list or you're not 🤷🏽‍♂ I think thats been Graces point when it comes to "grabbing the headline" by being on the list. Cant grab a headline with "well if your show as another 30 mins longer we'd be #5!"

[@therealeverton]

Alien Romulus numbers are NOT low. They are, in fact, HIGH for that type of movie.

[@terrymcginnis01]

I think it's pretty clear Grace does not like that movie, regardless of its numbers.

[@emanuelrodriguez9044]

@@terrymcginnis01She has said she liked it, I just guess she wants to be right one it’s box office being low.

[@charlesalwyn3486]

I will say that while I am not big on Marvel stuff…I did renew my subscription to Disney+ after two years (for Hocus Pocus 2) because I was interested in Agatha All Along and specifically my Heartstopper baby, Joe Locke. I have loved the show so much that it actually has be interested in Wanda now. I am so sad the show I’ll be over this week but I will definitely rewatch it in the future. I am hoping all the buzz around Episode 7 gets more attention. Love you Grace! 🥰

[@knighthawk3749]

You should watch WandaVision. Just give it a chance because it's a very slow build up until the end of episode 3 and then it picks up. The first 3 episodes are very short though, so it shouldn't be a problem. Also I can't wait for them to bring Joe as Wiccan to the big screen. Maybe a Young Avengers movie?

[@SBoy3.0]

I hope The Wild Robot wins the award, not because I want to stick it to Disney but because it’s truly a fantastic film.

[@thunderverna]

Absolutely agree ❤❤

[@goteamgaz]

I think lack of quality & lack of trust much more than content overload

[@TheWisestWizards]

The poor quality of Venom 2 is the reason Venom 3 is underperforming. People don't forget being tricking into paying for a bad movie.

[@TheWisestWizards]

@@lorenavedon By far the lowest opening of the trilogy. The Venom hype is dying, and it's not superhero fatigue. It's trash fatigue.

[@whysoserious7182]

⁠@@lorenavedonlol massive is a big word. Don’t think so. Have to factor in advertising costs which is up to 2.5 times the budget. So has to make 300mill which think it will. But it won’t be a massive profit, will just be a bit . Overall despite being helped by overseas performance, overall performance is okay. But compared to past movies not good.

[@sandal_thong8631]

Add Spider-Man or even Spider-Woman and maybe they would have made several hundred million more? They left money on the table.

[@TheWisestWizards]

@@sandal_thong8631 Definitely. You can't keep Venom going forever if you can't get Spider-man in these movies.

[@eyezonly8593]

Grace sounded like she wanted to laugh when comparing Joker 2 and Transformers

[@TheRManProds]

THE PENGUIN IS STILL A GREAT SHOW!

[@cianog]

A film as bad as Venom 3 making $51M is a success.

[@Tyler72696]

Regarding the comic book film discussion and ‘promises not being met’ I do think it’s important to note that creating your own narrative of what a product should be based on what you want, is just expectation - not a promise made by anyone else.

[@Camw101]

Most of those expectations come from the comics that inspired the films. The expectation of at least seeing 2 characters that are essential to one another's comic 'lore' is not too far-fetched.

[@jackdennis3511]

And what about the spider-man post credit tease in Venom?

[@sandal_thong8631]

@@jackdennis3511 Someone said Marvel created the end-credit scene to build excitement for the next related movie but then Marvel and DC killed it by having scenes that promise something new and exciting next time but not delivering. Think Mister Mind at the end of _Shazam,_ or Baron Mordo at the end of _Doctor Strange._

[@jaime1200]

It’s super hot over here Grace, LA. It’s in the news, it’s in the ads, it’s everywhere.

[@AllInTheGame01]

Interesting how certain franchises (or genres) like Beetlejuice, Ghostbusters, A Quiet Place, Scream, Halloween etc don't travel as well outside North America doing a bigger portion of their box office domestically as opposed to internationally as is the norm!

[@Yehoshua66]

I still feel so bad for Gaga😭 she loved playing Harley so much; Todd’s writing and post-production just completely shattered her character.

[@TheMarc388]

I loved her up until that ending. Making the entire premise of the movie “There is no Joker” was an awful idea and making her so unlikeable in the final 10 or so minutes didn’t help either. Could have been great but yeah it was fumbled. At least we still have the phenomenal first film.

[@nailinthefashion]

Its so baffling. Gaga as Harley is what some of us were dreaming about. Give her a mallet and get silly with it, make the whole thing a long music video where Jokes is manipulated the whole time until he ascends to Chaos King. It's not that hard but they overthought it lol

[@taylorfisher3944]

Every woman loves playing Harley

[@nailinthefashion]

@@taylorfisher3944 every toxic guy wishes they were the Joker in the same way

[@mabusestestament]

@@TheMarc388 Well, isn’t that a good ‘ha-the-joke’s-on-you!’ kinda joke, in a way? There was a very big rumor that the first Joker was supposed to end with (a very different) ‘the joke’s on you!’ ending as well.

[@Uouttooo]

There is no fatigue on Deadpool & Wolverine!

[@lafeil]

Agree, because that was good movie

[@TheBioBoy]

Because your little device told you it was good. Even though it was filled with disgustingly vulgar contant and lazy fan service. That’s my reason. Tell me why you prefer that slop to a corny venom movie. Venom at least respects audiences enough to tell a contained story, without trying to sell you some other garbage.

[@Pilaspilas911]

Wolverine & Deadpool was good because it was simple and did not have that dei crap. It remained true to itself just letting Ryan Reynolds play Deadpool his way. The plot was pretty clear and had you watched Loki, the TV series then this is a bonus continuity of the TVA and its corrupt ways sometimes. That's just some of the reason why I like it than a really congested and box checking movie like the venom; they didn't do some, if not most of the villains justice of how they portrayed them. You would know if you watched it...

[@Blazecap]

@@TheBioBoy I know you didn't say that while venom 3 was key dangling Knull. Deadpool and wolverine is way more respectful to fans than the slop sony has made

[@brandoncrockett9266]

⁠@@TheBioBoy So, if a movie has the audacity to connect its plot to a greater overarching story spanning multiple films, it’s “disrespecting its audience”? Even if you believe that said connection wasn’t established very well in Deadpool and Wolverine, audiences probably had a good idea going in that the movie was at least going to reference the larger MCU. If you were caught off-guard by that, then you probably weren’t very familiar with Disney/Marvel’s work to begin with

[@AdrianBigyes]

Other main issue with comic book movies is not sticking to the source material, especially if what the studio presented is very lackluster.

[@PathOfRage]

My main thing is the SIZE and look of the character 😂...anyone bigger than 6 feet and 190 pounds is brought DOWN to that size, to avoid the VFX.

[@MaximeBrunet_]

Another marvelous Movie Math episode 🏆 Thank you for working so hard every Sunday to provide us with our favorite episode of the week! I adore learning about the Box Office with you ✨

[@cenanuffz]

I know Arcane isn't Comic Books but I'm optimistic this new season will prove their's still an appetite for super-powered characters fighting when the stories are intelligent and compelling.

[@q2k100]

So we're back to doing this again even though Deadpool just did $1.3B? 😂 It's simple, just being a cbm isn't enough to get a pass anymore.

[@jonathancurran5366]

It never was think back to 2019 when the Hellboy reboot and X-Man Dark Phoenix flopped and Shazam did middling numbers and that was at peak CBM.

[@carlx3358]

Agatha’s ratings are totally going up, episode 7 brought 4.2 million views in one day!

[@Sanj1n]

Sadly, I don't think so, the show is still failing to appeal to general audiences

[@kyloren1014]

@@Sanj1nyes it did as it was reported also I got some co-workers into it so we’ll see

[@waiken3727]

yup agreed the highest one yet means that the audience are enjoying every episode and decided to stick around at the same time gaining more viewers each episode

[@Deadpool-n2t2x]

​​​​@@Sanj1n so explain to me how a show about a batman villain got 1.8 m and a show about witches got 4.2 million on the second week so you are saying they both don't appeal to general audience and or is it just Agatha but the numbers say otherwise

[@yashkaushik6540]

It goes to show that Agatha is not at all bad in quality; it's just not attracting a large audience. But still I'm very excited for the final 2 episodes. 🥳

[@niemand9362]

Nielsen should factor runtime and have a non binge show, and/or single spisode chart. Edit: I mean a chart of only new releases. Some of these shows have dozens, if not hundreds of episodes. It's unfair.

[@taylorfisher3944]

They screwed up the carnage movie for me. That's why I didn't see the new one. The carnage movie should of been bloody and gory and basically been a slasher flick. Venom should of basically been arguing with Eddy because carnage was having so much fun causing carnage. Would of been great but what we got was a disjointed mess with a vague coming out story. Pretty lame. The first Vernon movie has me and the second one ruined it for me.

[@connor_phillipz5689]

The bubble of people accepting trash writing has burst. If it was a comic book issue then Deadpool and Wolverine wouldn't have performed the way it did.

[@david88464]

The "No promises" opening argument is amazing and totally true, the moment this became true for the MCU was Multiverse of Madness, where it was clear the goal wasn't clear and that ultimately the latest success (WandaVision) didn't matter, breaking the all-connected promise.

[@Nnn-t2z]

It is superhero fatigue because blockbusters are now only in the superhero genre. We don't get other kinds of movies that are classed as blockbusters nowadays. Not all of us like superheros and studios are using random lesser known ones that don't appeal to the wider public.

[@ethanbistline4152]

Grace, your hair is INCREDIBLE today!!!

[@Viper3220]

0:20 - If I hear one more personv blame comic book failures on "saturation" or "superhero fatigue" my blood is going to boil. 0:25 - "Lack of *quality content* and promises not being delivered on. Yes! Yes! Finally someone says it! Thank you so much Grace. Preach!

[@lynarong1072]

Thanks for making my day better, Grace🙏

[@TheOneLane]

I gave Agatha a shot. I finished the 4th episode and just couldn't watch it anymore. The Penguin is a show I'm loving.

[@sonnycrackel]

Kraven will flop hard!

[@sandal_thong8631]

I don't want them to make bad movies, but if they do then they deserve to flop.

[@meta_marc9499]

My desire to catch every superhero movie has diminished so much. Watching venom 3 just feels like a choir that really doesn’t need to prioritize right now.

[@TheLegendaryMovieCritic]

Venom: The Last Dance underperforming should make Sony so nervous about Kraven The Hunter!

[@Bleepurchin]

I have never read a comic book in my life and I am eating sleeping and drinking Agatha All Along. You do not need the comics to be into these shows. A good story is a good story wherever it’s come from!

[@AgathaStan2024]

Hi Grace! This comes out on Monday where I am, such a great start to the week 🎉

[@zenjii1]

Grace your hair looks absolutely MAGNIFICENT!!!

[@HonkerTonic]

Here in the UK, The Penguin is on episode 5 and it is great. Has a Daredevil season 1 kind of grit about it. It's getting good word of mouth too, so let's see what happens, it might build over time!

[@samfarrlikesmovies]

MUBI distributed the substance, they are probably one of the first major distributors that started as a streaming service imo and i think their distribution of The Substance was really impressive considering it was their first semi-wide release

[@vokasimid5330]

Well said

[@emanouel]

There’s similarities as to Joker and Venom with both being villains with their own property, being something of anti-heroes when in actuality they are not, and with no major hero introductions to fuel the fandom. I don’t think it’s superhero content, I think it’s villain and anti-hero content that is suffering at the numbers. 😢

[@raf686]

Years of comics say otherwise with venom. But sureeee

[@warrenjohns3194]

I LOVE going to the movie theater. It is always an experience and a bit of a ritual for me. My biggest complaints about theaters in my area (Philly) are hygiene and timing. I want more options before noon.

[@carl0maldonado46]

I sometimes question Grace’s comic book knowledge venom is an extremely popular character in the comics and outside of it as well while Kraven isn’t. He makes more sense in a Spider-Man movie.

[@TechWeLove]

@@carl0maldonado46 Especially since Kraven hunts Spiderman.

[@jjjones8609]

I think she means the general non-comic buying public. Which is the majority of movie ticket buyers.

[@Julian_Scents]

Grace you are 💯 correct. About poor quality. We need quality movies and give us what we want in comic book stories

[@ridofchris]

I loved going to the theaters, unfortunately sometimes there's certain crowds that can sour the movie going experience. The other day I was watching Smile 2 and there was a group of young girls who kept giggling and talking all throughout. It really took me out of the movie, especially on the more suspenseful parts and annoyed me to no end. Right now, I have no desire to go back. I might catch Anora next week if there's a sorta empty showtime I can sneak by.

[@thunderverna]

That happens to me too, if they come in before the first half hour is over I will usually just move to a different theatre and watch something else 🙄😠 bc if you ask ppl nicely to wait til after the movie they get hostile and entitled (so entitled 🤬) it's easier and less stressful just to switch movies

[@lindajordan7712]

I spent the weekend catching up on Agatha Along and love it! Can't wait for the season finale!

[@jamesheatherly4209]

Sony at this point should give Marvel the Spider Man rights back.

[@smantooth6]

I agree but also disagree at the same time. Marvel’s not doing so hot either, (except for Deadpool & Wolverine. Still love that movie❤)

[@ThorTwinkle]

Should they though? The only reason why we are getting "so many" Tom Holland Spider-Man movie is that Sony is "forcing" Feige into finding space for them in his plans. If I remember correctly, he wanted to wait more between a film and the other. Also, if Disney got the rights back, we would have never gotten something like Into The Spider-Verse.

[@maxsmock2127]

19:16 I know she’s not the biggest star but I feel like Aubrey Plaza brought some of her own celebrity to Agatha. I know several ppl who are fans of hers that watch the show to see her.

[@sophiag612]

Well it’s not that many people

[@Stardust4900]

Hey grace! That is a heck of a shirt you have. Looks great! I love your style!

[@eilahtanzelaznog170]

Grace, as a Shohei Ohtani fan myself...this WS has alot of buzz! On the Dodgers side, you have Shohei Ohtani MLB's international superstar and this year's NL MVP. And former MVPs like Mookie Betts and Freedie Freeman. On the Yankees side, it's Aaron Judge (most likely this year's AL MVP) and former MVP in GianCarlo Stanton. Shohei Ohtani brings alot of eyeballs to these games especially from Japan. I'm not from either of these cities but I'm tuned in this year because I've been waiting for Shohei to play in his first World Series. Also, the ratings for this WS has been better than last year's ❤

[@willdebeast21]

I liked Joker so I watched Joker 2. Did not like Joker 2. I liked Venom so I watched Venom 2. Did not like Venom 2 so did not bother going to see Venom 3. I'll sill watch comic book movies as long as the quality is good, but it seems like it's diminishing in quality like the MCU since Endgame and all of the Sony Spiderverse. I hope Matt Reeves' Batman 2 is like what The Dark Knight was to Batman Begins!

[@Ralsar]

I almost never went to the theater before I got AMC A-List. It just cost too much otherwise.

[@tomderuiter2254]

Can't wait for The Diplomat! One of my favorite series from last year!!

[@MaxxRemKing1]

That is on my list but I forgot about it

[@fcsuper]

From my understanding, AMC A-List pays 1/2 the standard ticket price to the studio when you use it to see a movie. That means, even for premium seats in IMAX, the studios only get half of the non-premium ticket. So, AMC A-List would actually drive down the results for movies in their first week of release.

[@sandal_thong8631]

Don't know if you can use it for the first week of expected blockbusters or special engagements. Some shows at Cinemark are pass-restricted the first week. And a special engagement of _Kiki's Delivery Service_ is too, so it's full price or discount Tuesday or forget it.

[@DungForever]

I saw Smile 2 this weekend and the theater was PACKED. It might still have some legs left before Wicked completely takes over.

[@thepoppunx]

the main problem with marvel right now its that they`ve lost de casual viewer... agatha its a niche show... casuals dont know and care shit bout a secondary character of a spin off of a secondary character in wanda vision...

[@sandal_thong8631]

I don't care much about her; in fact I'd like to see her "Horizontal, in a grave!" as Rio said. But I thought I'd go along for the ride and see where it goes. Rumor has it that we should not expect to see cameos in the last episodes, like Tommy, Mephisto, and Wanda. So that could be misdirection to hide spoilers, or it could end really badly with Agatha crying over her dead son.

[@SD-zz4ov]

Oh please, its halloween and casuals LOVE witches. stop bullshitting.

[@harrynelson803]

I honestly believe Agatha’s audience and viewership is almost all Queer fans more than the “core” comic book book fans

[@Square-ow7oq]

Queer fans are part of the "core" comic book fans. Do you really think that queer people just tuned in randomly without knowing anything about the characters? Lmao

[@shippendales8543]

There are lots of non queer fans watching it though The issue might be Agatha has too short a run time If it was an hour long It would likely rank higher The episodes are too short too Which isn't helping

[@robertsaner8766]

​@@Square-ow7oqyeah I did

[@huntercook4563]

Thank you for all the hard work, Grace! Love the video as usual 🎉

[@klytus1259]

It will be interesting to see what ep 7 of Agatha does for the ratings

[@arrekushun]

Being Superhero used to guarantee box office to an extent, but now filmmakers need to earn it by making actual good movies, and thats fair.

[@eddiepalomares7639]

I think …who is asking for all this content. Hollywood is overly saturated

[@Silentsilo987]

Not sure about other members but having A-List definitely entices me to see movies in the theater that I may not have otherwise or go see something I liked more than once. A lot of those end up being smaller films, "awards" films, etc. a lot of the time...for example, I probably would not have went to see stuff like Conclave, Saturday Night, Strange Darling, The Substance in theaters if I didn't have A-List. I love that about it bc Ive seen some great stuff in the theater thanks to it

[@mogumogu000]

The bar is for a superhero film these days is just not being awfully terrible lol

[@Jbreezzyyy]

1000000000000%. Don’t know why this is so hard to understand

[@sandal_thong8631]

Someone's deciding to put down $100 million in the hopes it will make $1 billion. But clearly they don't know what they're doing.

[@mohamedalmahfood]

I always appreciate the amount of editing in videos 👍

[@Imlivinlife27]

It doesn’t help movies that reviewers and KZbinrs say not to watch the movie in theaters or just wait for steaming

[@sandal_thong8631]

If we can get down to 3-4 streaming services: Netflix, Amazon, Disney+ w/Hulu, then maybe they can make money and decide to delay movies going to streaming so people won't want to wait 4-5 months for them and see them in theaters.

[@aishaalamoudi599]

Dear Grace, Agatha All Along debuted with 2 episodes. That and the 3rd episode being short is why there's a small drop on Nielsen; the show is doing well and Disney is happy with it.

[@11ibi]

An early movie math just in time for my pizza thank you grace ❤❤

[@anyaaa2801]

I've heard a lot of great things about The Penguin tho. Everyone who is watching it says they love it.

[@tylerspray-laird4683]

People just don't wanna go see bad movies. Sony is totally clueless and should stop making these movies nobody wants. Audiences still show up for superhero movies, look at Deadpool and Wolverine, but if they think it's going to be bad they won't' go see it.

[@nadinekore6308]

"Hello! And Welcome to this week's... Movie Math!" I LOVE it! Thank you Grace!

[@aarong3000]

Deadpool/Wolverine disagrees with this video Grace! 😂😂😂😂😂

[@hjcentr5283]

I loved Woman of the Hour. It wasn't what I expected, but it kept me glued and freaked me out. I thought it was so well done how the emotions were conveyed. The focus on how a phrase in a conversation, and its interpretation by one side can just change the entire feel of a moment.

[@andrew3738]

Agatha $4.2M are worldwide, Penguin $1.8M only domestic. HBO has no access to international streamjng services where the Penguin is available (Sky, Foxtel, etc).

[@KidGreeD14]

the penguin is likely not showing up because max decided to air it a week early.

[@isaaclopez-eb6yg]

Grace your hair looks amazing this episode wow

[@MaxxRemKing1]

I agree, Hall of Fame hair day Grace 😱🔥

[@writermichaeljlando]

I think the box office conversation can be summed up to three things for any film: quality, price, and changes in viewing habits (eg streaming/social media). Comic book fatigue is a misnomer. Films of various genres flop consistently and no one ever says it’s because of dramatic film fatigue.

[@patrickdurling2712]

Favorite part of the week 🎉🎉

[@Lawfair]

I remember when I was a kid, the entertainment section of the Friday newspaper would have the Neilsen top 100 shows for the previous week, does Neilsen no longer rank TV shows? I would think if they did we could see how shows were doing on HBO as well as Max.

[@Rafael-vm1pz]

Can't wait to see how Olivia Rodrigo Guts World Tour does on Netflix

[@ryan37209]

In reference to Agatha all Along, and other streaming shows, I am waiting for all the episodes to drop so I can binge the same way I watch Netflix shows. A lot of my friends and coworkers are doing the same thing.

[@nickmilby7042]

Agatha is NOT for comic book fans or even a real comics property! She’s basically an NPC in the MINIMAL comics she’s ever appeared in over 60+ years 🙄

[@SD-zz4ov]

and?

[@knighthawk3749]

MCU Agatha is completely different from comics Agatha.

[@myra8424]

I see so many TikTok creators that love this show. I haven’t seen that with other Disney+ show except maybe Mandalorian.

[@Shearedfield]

Agatha’s main fan base is queer. I don’t think many are huge comic book fans.

[@JoshPinder92]

I've started my binge tonight so count me in ....as a queer comic book fan

[@sandal_thong8631]

They say comic book readership is something like 10% what it was around 1990. And that the end of the Comics Code Authority allowed characters to be openly gay (to the reader). Now how many comic book readers are Q?

[@VuMinhThuFPLHN]

They're comic fans just not always superhero comic fans. No one read super hero genre now

[@gohan1094]

Personally I refuse to spend money on any of these Sonyverse movies until they get someone passionate about Spider-Man as a producer and we get an Actual Spider character!

[@sandal_thong8631]

I'm looking forward to _Beyond the Spider-Verse,_ but they've been silent about it, leading to that rumor that they were starting over with a new script.

[@poke1855]

YESSSS GRACE, MOVIE MATH SO GOOD. SAW VENOM YESTERDAY AND ENJOYED IT. LIKED THE FIGHT AT THE END OF THE FILM. 😊

[@PGK87]

Quality content is rare these days! Marvel is a prime example. A break after Endgame would have been good.

[@Michael-se6ko]

Just saw Venom with my wife. Laughed hard, phenomenal effects, couple of hiccups in writing. Solid B. Well worth it for us.

[@joshhorton5449]

Audiences aren’t going to waste their time or money unless it’s a story and characters they (the majority of comic book fans) care about.