2024 Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing (6-Speed Manual) - POV Driving Impressions

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TheTopher

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Күн бұрын

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@TheTopher
@TheTopher 10 ай бұрын
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@SpartanG6
@SpartanG6 10 ай бұрын
My dad had been looking for a clean low miles F80 and wasnt having good luck. I told him about this car and just a few days ago he sent me a pic of an electric blue 6 speed ct4v in his garage 😂 he loves it. Your older videos on the car helped!
@chrisdafurz
@chrisdafurz 10 ай бұрын
Manual, Clean, and low Mileage F80's are so rare. Totally agree that this would be an amazing alternative!
@Dontfallforit77
@Dontfallforit77 10 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@ollyvoxx
@ollyvoxx 10 ай бұрын
Honestly think this car is MASSIVELY better than the f80s. G80s have some significant advantages, but also waaaaay more expensive. As a Blackwing driver myself, I think your dad made the right choice 😉
@danbrown3460
@danbrown3460 9 ай бұрын
I own a 2022 CT4 BW and love it. I’ve had every muscle car you can imagine and this is my favorite by far. Perfect balance of power and handling. I have the 6 speed manual and wouldn’t have it any other way!
@swishy4mbg
@swishy4mbg 7 ай бұрын
What are a couple of your favorite things? What are some things you hate or are disappointed in?
@danbrown3460
@danbrown3460 7 ай бұрын
@@swishy4mbg I love the power and handling. My only complaint with the car is it’s not that easy getting in or out of the car because it sits so low and the position of the steering wheel makes you bend down and kind of drop in unless you tilt the steering wheel up before you get in.
@TheMbeam
@TheMbeam 4 ай бұрын
#savethemanuals
@soarabove337
@soarabove337 13 күн бұрын
@@danbrown3460 Lol ok, but it's funny to say "I've had muscle cars", then bop on ease of entry/exit bc it sits so low: imagine this car coming out when you were born & you got to drive one to HS (or whatever it takes to get over the "it's low" consideration). I just bailed on an RS5 and it's nowhere near as low as my age-old WS6 and SS cars; it's way higher than my Vettes. Compared to the Audi, the vision out front is light-years ahead, credit the low dash for such a big car.
@loki_wolff
@loki_wolff 10 ай бұрын
I'm not really a Cadillac guy but i will say it seems like they do sport sedans better than the germans these days.
@CLUBTOHM
@CLUBTOHM 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Phaevryn
@Phaevryn 10 ай бұрын
If only we could buy them here in Europe.
@StonedNoob
@StonedNoob 10 ай бұрын
@@CLUBTOHMhe is not wrong you know.
@Jmarzx
@Jmarzx 10 ай бұрын
Only in luxury and ride quality hell yeah but performance negative. Nd idk if they ride better than audi’s but u lmk u prob got more experience.
@CLUBTOHM
@CLUBTOHM 10 ай бұрын
@@StonedNoob I’d always rather find myself looking at the Rondell than the dated Cadillac logo any day. Regardless of performance or comfort.
@anthonyantoine9232
@anthonyantoine9232 10 ай бұрын
I've got the older brother of this, the ATS-V but in auto. Best car I have owned and by quite a long shot. A downpipe and tune puts you at about 500WHP, and yet it's still super comfortable to drive every day. With pads and fluid, along with the basic power mods the car is absolutely amazing on track. It is unbelievably fast for a comfortable daily.
@Jmarzx
@Jmarzx 10 ай бұрын
U ever got to compare it with a M340i ?
@anthonyantoine9232
@anthonyantoine9232 10 ай бұрын
@@Jmarzx No, but funny enough I was considering an M340i when I bought the ATS-V. I just never got around to test driving one, because I immediately fell in love with the V lol. Thought about an F-150 raptor as well, but the test drive just didn't excite me at all. I think an M340i would be a decent competitor, albeit not as good on track. They're likely just as fast in a straight line when modified well, though.
@sunnyvalentino
@sunnyvalentino 10 ай бұрын
How are parts availability. I've heard GM parts after models are discontinued is hard for small stuff. Is the car reliable. I'm considering one
@anthonyantoine9232
@anthonyantoine9232 10 ай бұрын
@@sunnyvalentino Only parts I've had to buy are brake rotors, and they were a little bit of a pain but not a huge deal. They're expensive, but they're also high performance 2 piece floating rotors so they're always going to be expensive. The car is reliable, but these things do eat spark plugs surprisingly fast and it is a bit of a pain to do plugs with the way the intake is set up. You have to remove a vacuum manifold and partially remove the intake tubes that run from the turbos to the intercooler on top of the engine to actually get to the plugs. It's still only like a 1 hour job every 30-60k miles, though. Not a huge deal. The biggest concern with these cars is a defect that happened in the first model year, 2016, which caused damage to the cylinder walls and results in smoke on cold starts. Basically there was debris left in some intakes on early models that made its way into the engine and scored the cylinder walls. Just keep an eye out for smoking on a cold start, but because it's a known defect you can get a new long block for free from GM from what I understand. I'd rather avoid the headache altogether, though. Another thing of note is to keep an eye on your intercooler coolant. GM designed the system in a really stupid manner (can be fixed for like $250 if you buy the entire fix or less than $100 if you do it all yourself, just look it up and there are a ton of posts about it) so that there is no reservoir/overflow and so once the system gets air in it (and it likely will at some point), it is a pain in the ass to bleed. The engine coolant system doesn't suffer from this problem, but the intercooler circuit does. Still not a deal breaker, and you'll be able to feel that it's getting low as the car will pull timing really hard when intake temps spike. The last goofy design item is the rear diff cooler, which is actually also the transmission cooler. They share fluid through lines which run all the way from the very front of the car to the very back. I haven't dealt with any necessity for fluid changes, but I'm sure it could be a pain in the ass with that huge run of lines. Hope that answers all of your questions. They're great cars and there's a solid community around them. Not a big community, but one that's pretty dedicated to the cars.
@JJdaSamuRai
@JJdaSamuRai 10 ай бұрын
M340 should be faster or just as fast on track according to car and driver @@anthonyantoine9232
@Outdoorsman44
@Outdoorsman44 10 ай бұрын
Fun fact - the key fob color actually matches the brake rotors (*calipers) on all blackwings, not the exterior.
@64Spokes
@64Spokes 10 ай бұрын
Brake calipers*
@Outdoorsman44
@Outdoorsman44 10 ай бұрын
@@64Spokes correct. I hadn't had my coffee yet, thanks 😂
@TheTopher
@TheTopher 10 ай бұрын
Ooo, good to know!
@bobbyyagakechannel
@bobbyyagakechannel 10 ай бұрын
I’m liking modern Cadillacs the more I see them!
@cruisesuski1280
@cruisesuski1280 4 ай бұрын
After watching you review this car for 3 straight model years, I finally pulled the trigger! This is my second Topher inspired vehicle purchase. I previously had the Bronco 7MT.
@soarabove337
@soarabove337 13 күн бұрын
I see OP liked this, but chose not to comment; hopefully you'll accept mine all the same. I went to test a CT5 V, wasn't feeling it. Didn't like the size (lack of interior space) in the CT4 V BW, but tested it all the same. Tossed my 22 RS5 out for the end of MY 24 deal & it's been brilliantly different.
@ollyvoxx
@ollyvoxx 10 ай бұрын
I adore my ct4 BW. I almost sold it, trying to save money, but I regained my senses and figured it out, lol. I don't ever wanna get rid of it or even THINK about getting rid of it ever again.
@soarabove337
@soarabove337 13 күн бұрын
Props: keep it ~10 years after it's paid off (I'm a $ guy), then garage it; then bequeath it to family for sale in 2050 as "one of the hottest cars to come out in the 2020s, yet low volume"; make someone a happy auction camper.
@ollyvoxx
@ollyvoxx 12 күн бұрын
@soarabove337 😅😅😅 I ended up selling it, lol. Not because I wanted to, but I needed to save money. Goal now is a 6 speed Mustang Mach 1
@soarabove337
@soarabove337 10 күн бұрын
@@ollyvoxx that’s unfortunate… but understandable all the same. 🙏
@ollyvoxx
@ollyvoxx 3 күн бұрын
​ @soarabove337 so update: I drove a Mustang Bullitt for 24 hrs and decided the platform isn't for me. Engine/exhaust is spectacular, but even with performance pack, it wasn't even HALF the sharpness of the CT4-V BW. At this point I'm considering finding a Chevy SS or perhaps getting another CT4-V BW, this time making SURE i get a color i truly want. I settled for Rift Metallic back then because they were so rare. Never again. Gotta be Typhoon Metallic, Electric Blue, Coastal Blue, or Velocity Red. Argent Silver is acceptable if it's a SCREAMING good deal.
@soarabove337
@soarabove337 Күн бұрын
@@ollyvoxx yeah it’s hard to find a car that handles like the GM MR shocks. I bet there is some performance pack on a base SS you could get without spending $60k but idk for sure. Mine V BW still isn’t broken in yet, so I’m struggling to not fully open it up to see what it does nearer the limit.
@Sayu2x
@Sayu2x 10 ай бұрын
My new realistic dream car
@Phantom-d7e
@Phantom-d7e 10 ай бұрын
What a coincidence, I was watching your old video on this car and now you posted a new one of it! On topic: The fuel cut-off sound while engaging no-lift-shift is just mindboggling. A serious enthusiast car indeed and one I will definitely put on my list to drive. Excellent review of this CT4 Blackwing Topher.
@nicklehmann2059
@nicklehmann2059 10 ай бұрын
The reason it sounds so good is that it's not cutting fuel, it's cutting spark/timing. That allows the car to stay on boost between shifts.
@Phantom-d7e
@Phantom-d7e 10 ай бұрын
@@nicklehmann2059 Appreciate the correction 🙌🏼
@boonsur
@boonsur 10 ай бұрын
I've always noticed you enjoy watches. Love that you're adding a quick wrist check.
@t.7527
@t.7527 10 ай бұрын
All this love for Cadillac all of a sudden judging by comments....out on the road ...and other car channels warms my heart. The CT4/CT5 have been sleepers out here compared to the popular choices . Boys are starting to come to the Cadillac side now that the Charger/Challenger have uncertain futures. But I don't classify the Cadillacs as "muscle cars" just bad ass sport sedans !
@chilli1695
@chilli1695 10 ай бұрын
IMO, the Americans have FINALLY outdone the Germans this generation. They wont out sell them simply because of the mainstream BMW appeal. Non car people will take a M3 over a blackwing any day of the week. Meanwhile actual drivers and car guys know where its at. The problem is the mainstream audience is a lot bigger than the enthusiast market. So BMW will sell more. That's ok. When the caddys get discontinued ill have a rare, more special car than just another M3!
@t.7527
@t.7527 10 ай бұрын
@@chilli1695 I agree but dang man don't mention the Caddy's discontinuing I want them to be Mainstays. I got to get one myself before Caddy says "well no one bought them, so we discontinued them"
@RS3NDIT
@RS3NDIT 10 ай бұрын
Another certified banger! The more I see of this car the more I like it.
@Aslam_Aliyu
@Aslam_Aliyu 10 ай бұрын
i love the new wrist check segment infusing both cars and watches i cant afford i love it
@novakinb
@novakinb 10 ай бұрын
MR. TOPHER OMG i do the same with mine 1st -> 3rd when driving at low speeds or in neighborhoods!!! :D Great video, NLS and Rev Matching is so insanely fun it always puts a smile on me/passenger's faces. The car also does auto-throttle as you mentioned, so it's actually not bad at all to drive in bad traffic. Another note that is totally understated, rev match for daily driving rev matches UP gears as well as down, and it is also predictive. For example if you are in 5th, and want to go to 2nd, as soon as you CROSS center/neutral position it will PRE-BLIP the throttle! It doesn't even know what gear you want to grab at that point. And if you move more left, past center, it will blip even MORE because it knows you want to select 1 or 2! It only locks RPM when you select a gate!!!
@TurtlesandStuff.
@TurtlesandStuff. 10 ай бұрын
One of the best fuel cut-off sounds
@nicklehmann2059
@nicklehmann2059 10 ай бұрын
The only time the car actually cuts fuel is when standard traction control activates in non-PTM drive modes. The brrrrrt sound that is so good is the car pulling spark/timing, and you hear it during PTM traction control, launch control, and no-lift shifts. 👍
@Liplip40
@Liplip40 10 ай бұрын
These drive great. 3 more inches of rear legroom and a modern infotainment screen away from perfection. When you drive it you think of none of that. Upgraded seats are a must👍
@jayman3575
@jayman3575 10 ай бұрын
agreed. maybe wider wheel wells for my taste as well. im hoping the aftermarket world fixes the infotainment screen with enabling the bigger CT5 screen to be retrofitted to the CT4
@EntaiIIe
@EntaiIIe 10 ай бұрын
I absolutely love my ct4v blackwing, and I am going to enjoy it for a long time, but here are some ownership cons for those interested that you couldnt get from a driving impression (and yes I am nitpicking - because the driving experience and practicality of it outweighs everything easily): it is a thirsty car still, it should do better than it does. insurance premiums are pretty ridiculous, highest than any other sports car I've had (and I've had many). 2022 and 'some' 2023 models have a design flaw where the harness is too close to some hot areas and has to be 'corrected' with some sleeving, otherwise risk of burning through and shorting the car out. the Cadillac dealership experience is not quite up to snuff for most things. the oil filter and drain plug locations are easily accessible, but stupidly placed, and you make a mess doing oil changes. jacking the car up is not very accessible or simple. the aftermarket is almost non existent for it since there is such a small amount of them in general. what little aftermarket there is, is overly expensive. the ECU is encrypted and if you want to tune it, it's a very expensive proposition. if you tune it, your spark plugs are a consumable item and are finicky. the brake components (rotors especially) are very, very expensive to replace.
@GrabbaBeer
@GrabbaBeer 10 ай бұрын
How much to tune it? And it burns your spark plugs out?
@dbased1915
@dbased1915 10 ай бұрын
This will likely be my next upgrade, right now i have 2021 IS350 f sport which i really enjoy just lacks power. This sounds incredible and i love the aggressive burbles
@E99584
@E99584 10 ай бұрын
I'm debating trading in my is500 for this.
@ChummiaChan
@ChummiaChan 10 ай бұрын
This is honestly one of the best American cars yet, I personally prefer the CT5-V Blackwing Manual and Cadillac Escalade V as my own ultimate combo, but this is a solid option if you don't mind the lack of V8 or don't want to pay a good $100k❤
@TheyCallMePDub
@TheyCallMePDub 10 ай бұрын
Your fuel costs would be insane with that combo haha
@ShaiyanHossain
@ShaiyanHossain 10 ай бұрын
you would need your own oil refinery @@TheyCallMePDub
@chilli1695
@chilli1695 10 ай бұрын
I think everyone would rather have the ct5... This is coming from a guy who loves his ct4 blackwing. But the cheapest you can find the ct5s even on the aftermarket used is like 90K... really hard to swing it for that price. and at 100k your in older Porsche 9/11 Turbo money, which will 100% be a better drivers car.
@POVCruiser
@POVCruiser 10 ай бұрын
Love your videos man, you've always been an inspiration to me! Your videos are always high quality!
@westsideskateshop564
@westsideskateshop564 10 ай бұрын
This car is epic! Absolutely love it, Cadillac is making some great cars with these black wings.
@EntaiIIe
@EntaiIIe 10 ай бұрын
ahhh this gives me some confidence of changing out the tires on mine to the mich a/s 4's. you were able to push the car pretty well still. I kept hesitating for whatever reason.
@GrabbaBeer
@GrabbaBeer 10 ай бұрын
What’s on yours right now?
@ill-lunar-nation3260
@ill-lunar-nation3260 10 ай бұрын
I had no idea Cadillac made manuals! Definitely interesting 🤔
@pan4632
@pan4632 10 ай бұрын
is the CT4 getting cancelled? GM has been suspiciously quiet about it, and no refresh has been announced unlike CT5...
@305Nick
@305Nick 10 ай бұрын
No. the CT4 will get a full 2024 model year run then the refresh will come. GM didn't want to steal thunder from the Ct5 so it will push buyers into the more premium profit making car.
@pan4632
@pan4632 10 ай бұрын
@@305Nick that's great to hear! I hope the interior gets an update
@04SBBMWM3CDINANS3
@04SBBMWM3CDINANS3 10 ай бұрын
you posted this right as i have an allocation
@rideronboard
@rideronboard 10 ай бұрын
Waiting for mine not so patiently...
@64Spokes
@64Spokes 10 ай бұрын
Better (and better looking) than an M3. Fight me
@ShaiyanHossain
@ShaiyanHossain 10 ай бұрын
not an unpopular opinion
@username8644
@username8644 10 ай бұрын
Than the new M3, absolutely. New BMWs are absolutely hideous and heavy AF.
@chilli1695
@chilli1695 10 ай бұрын
@@username8644They hurt to look at.
@username8644
@username8644 10 ай бұрын
@@chilli1695 Yeah, it hurts me to see what they have done, I considered BMW the best car brand of all time. The only way I accept it, is to consider BMW dead and what exists now as another company under the same name.
@chilli1695
@chilli1695 10 ай бұрын
@@username8644 Especially coming off the F80 generation, which IMO are some of the best looking cars ever made. The ugly face is honestly what pushed me over the edge to the CT4 V blackwing. Like WHAT is the m2 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
@leea4624
@leea4624 10 ай бұрын
I wish the car would would unlock without having to hit the silver button on the door handle. 🤷‍♂️ Other than that small issue, the car is my favorite car I’ve had so far. And hands down the best six speed manual out there.
@ollyvoxx
@ollyvoxx 10 ай бұрын
Duuuuude, that's one of my very very few complaints. My 2020 m2 had no button. Was amazing. My Miata had auto unlock. WHY GM. WHY NO AUTO UNLOCK.
@DailyDriver.
@DailyDriver. 10 ай бұрын
I love the small screens. I hate the full long dash like the newer cars. This is simple and out of the way. I wish we had screens like this or slightly bigger with the option to hide in the dash like the older Audi mmi screens used to do
@enginserttas
@enginserttas 10 ай бұрын
7:50 probably the most accurate rev match i have ever seen
@jay_ay_why
@jay_ay_why 10 ай бұрын
I'd be satisfied with just the Tag strap. Wow that is an amazing piece.
@beaudamerell
@beaudamerell 5 ай бұрын
this may be the one - how long will the engine last 200K+ miles how does it do for leaks and issues?
@dream8870
@dream8870 2 ай бұрын
200k on sports sedan 😂 goodluck to that
@xClyptox
@xClyptox Ай бұрын
The best car Ive drove but mine had electrical gremlins. Sucks but damn - absolute JOY to drive daily.
@dougmaverick3287
@dougmaverick3287 22 күн бұрын
If money was no object, which car is more fun to drive and which would you prefer, the Acura Integra Type-S or the Cadillac CT4-V BLACKWING? I'm asking because those two are the two cars I've narrowed down as my next vehicle purchase. I've only test-driven the Type-S so far.
@Jmarzx
@Jmarzx 10 ай бұрын
7:45 many ppl never talk about the crunchyness of a gearbox ! Glad u spoke on this because this is something as a Owner can also be even a dealbreaker vs getting the Auto .
@ryanb8736
@ryanb8736 10 ай бұрын
The Autos have issues. My buddy had his changed under warranty.
@ShaiyanHossain
@ShaiyanHossain 10 ай бұрын
its really not that bad tho unless you're launching from a cold start (you shouldn't)
@ryanb8736
@ryanb8736 10 ай бұрын
@@ShaiyanHossain On a brand new car, that is bad. Over time it gets worse as it gets worn in. We need to stop making excuses for companies to give us weak parts.
@ShaiyanHossain
@ShaiyanHossain 10 ай бұрын
@@ryanb8736 could it just be due to the gearbox oil? I changed mine out in my honda with amsoil mtf and the transmission feels a lot smoother
@lomfmur
@lomfmur 10 ай бұрын
Gotta warm up the Tremecs, this is a known thing lol
@gettcouped
@gettcouped 10 ай бұрын
Wow, what a great video and a great car! You’re right this car looks so good in this spec. A Caddy in a bright Ferrari type red!
@joeythebrush4632
@joeythebrush4632 10 ай бұрын
Interesting comparison to the CTR! I has planned to buy the CTR but the crazy markups in early '23 were such a turn-off that I went with the CT4VBW. I love the Caddy in almost every way... it's such a great package. New purchase includes a 2-day track driving event at Spring Mountain which was incredible (driving their Blackwings). In the end I'm still a Honda guy and I might still need a CTR to go with it. :)
@sunnyvalentino
@sunnyvalentino 10 ай бұрын
Totallly different cars but im down to this, GR86 or MX5. I don't care about practicality. Just want max driving involvement and feel and reliability. Drove GR Corolla and it was a bit numb
@EchoTheRealOne
@EchoTheRealOne 10 ай бұрын
Gr86
@66rollincoal
@66rollincoal 10 ай бұрын
If you genuinely don't need trunk space get the Miata.
@nocs3
@nocs3 10 ай бұрын
Have you tried type r or Elantra N (don't know reliability of these)?
@fish_n_shift
@fish_n_shift 10 ай бұрын
MX5 Can't beat that top down experience!
@Flatsixfiesta
@Flatsixfiesta 10 ай бұрын
MX5 feels significantly more nimble and small. Theres generally a bit more road feel due to how light it is. Personally, I loved it as a backroad car but not as a autox or track car. There is too much body roll and the oversteer is not nearly as progressive. 86 also has good road feel and feedback but still doesnt touch the MX5 in terms of nimbleness. 86 is more stiff and feels a bit more planted. Oversteer is a bit more manageable and predictable. Personally I prefer the 86 because of its track capabilities. Mx5 is probably a more fun backroad car. In terms of reliability, 86 has oil issues. Mx5 has transmission issues. But both are pretty good if maintained well.
@swishy4mbg
@swishy4mbg 7 ай бұрын
This looks fantastic in red.
@SlipAngleG70
@SlipAngleG70 9 ай бұрын
I do love the idea of this car... amazing handling, great power.. the gauges look awesome. Only rwd -- which is normally great but I'm in Canada.. Pricing here is about $85-$100K.. The problem.. I have a 2023 G70 3.3T AWD Sport (top trim) and it's fantastic. A light tune and I'm at 480hp and 580ft/lbs of torque. A couple sway bars and handling wise, I'm at 8/10ths of the CT4-V BW. No manual though... My G70 cost me $55K.. I just don't know if this would be a big enough of a step up, especially as compared to a tuned G70? I would also lose AWD for winter. Thoughts?
@andrewflanders262
@andrewflanders262 5 ай бұрын
I have an ATS-V and a CT5 Blackwing, and he's right that this car can be more fun than the CT5 Blackwing, because it's a smaller lighter, more nimble, car, whose throttle you can punch without instantly exceeding 100mph. When a car is that powerful, it feels like the fun part has come and gone a bit too fast. But if all you care about is ridiculous power in every gear, the CT5 Blackwing delivers that.
@bcvijasiu
@bcvijasiu 10 ай бұрын
Granted this is the beginning of the video, so I am not sure if you bring it up, but this or the IS500. I did enjoy my IS500 more than G87 the other day, but I miss the manual. Bit that V8 ☺️. Love to hear your take on this V blackwing in comparison.
@Bobcat9
@Bobcat9 4 ай бұрын
I didn't know "no lift shift" was a feature they planned into this car. I can do it on my 2005 Honda Element pretty easily, had to when the clutch slave cylinder broke. I can do it on my 2012 Legacy GT also. Also, big-rig semi trucks do it all the time, matter of fact, they depend on it because those transmissions don't have synchronizers like regular automobiles do.
@notafanboy250
@notafanboy250 5 ай бұрын
That red trailing arc below the RPM needle seems like a dumb thing to have.
@youknowimwhite
@youknowimwhite 10 ай бұрын
Enjoy the watch checks and sound system checks 💪. This car is on my very short list, so the review is great timing for me
@Markoo777
@Markoo777 10 ай бұрын
What's up with those terrible roads in Michigan man?
@Bobcat9
@Bobcat9 4 ай бұрын
I wonder what appreciable or noticeable difference in fuel economy between the softer and stiffer suspension settings?
@bradleyjordan9418
@bradleyjordan9418 7 ай бұрын
I just put Pilot all seasons on my 23 CT4V Blackwing for more versatility. Mine is raven black with black interior and 6 speed manual. Why would anyone buy this car with an automatic transmission is beyond me.
@davidlloyd8095
@davidlloyd8095 8 ай бұрын
About to order to go along with my '17 Ford Focus RS!
@grandmayolli
@grandmayolli 9 ай бұрын
I'm actually going back and forth between this and the type r myself! I can't decide 😅
@ericstefko4852
@ericstefko4852 10 ай бұрын
what car is more fun to drive. This or the Integra Type S
@VisionCityMayor
@VisionCityMayor 10 ай бұрын
15:11 this feature is why this and the ct5v are every forza players dream lol
@brettlarbus3970
@brettlarbus3970 2 ай бұрын
How does it compare to the fl5 civic type r? With the 20k more?
@salg8416
@salg8416 7 ай бұрын
Was there anything else other than size that swayed you toward the Type R as opposed to the 4 Blackwing? I’m trying to talk myself out of spending a fortune on the 5 Blackwing when we move back to the States, and I love the thought of the 4BW, but the back seat just looks too small to fit two car seats comfortably.
@verympressiv
@verympressiv 10 ай бұрын
I love it. Needs more aggressive exterior styling. Nothing the aftermarket can’t fix 😅
@brianco12
@brianco12 10 ай бұрын
Is it worth the price over the new Acura Integra Type S?
@jasonludlowMD
@jasonludlowMD 3 ай бұрын
Do these have adaptive cruise control in the manual transmission versions?
@ollyvoxx
@ollyvoxx 10 ай бұрын
I have a rift metallic one and I am JEALOUS of that velocity red 😭
@joshpinchuk7061
@joshpinchuk7061 10 ай бұрын
It used to be that you could order a car without any new car smell added at the factory. Is that still an option?
@williamrori1274
@williamrori1274 10 ай бұрын
This is my next track car after the Elantra (probably going to sell it after this racing season).
@abdu8745
@abdu8745 10 ай бұрын
Big step up, noice. I have a 22 Elantra N and am looking to get into a G80 in ~2 years
@Jmarzx
@Jmarzx 10 ай бұрын
I need u to answer this for me . Is it really a waste of money getting a acura ITS. When I could get same performance in a used EN or used Gold R . Lmk cuz ima honda fan nd highk like how the ITS sounds nd ofc the EN is gorgeous sounding also
@Sayu2x
@Sayu2x 10 ай бұрын
As an EN owner this would be a direct upgrade. I would love to trade my EN for this.
@Sayu2x
@Sayu2x 10 ай бұрын
@@Jmarzxif you can afford a type s I would get it. It is a nicer car, but id argue isn’t really a full on track car out of the box. It doesn’t even have an oil temp gauge. CTR and EN are better for track duty
@abdu8745
@abdu8745 10 ай бұрын
@@Jmarzx ITS isn’t MUCH faster than an EN. it’s definitely more luxurious and has higher interior quality. Exterior looks are subjective, but they are both good looking cars imo, with the ITS winning for sure. It is significantly more expensive, so if it’s a stretch for you, the EN is a much better bang for your buck.
@claudenewton8932
@claudenewton8932 3 ай бұрын
Is the engine sound real or fake and generated threw the sound system.
@BovDrives
@BovDrives 10 ай бұрын
Chris! Would you own one of these yourself with a family in mind? we have my fiances three row suv so i should be okay but whats your thoughts as someone with a kid?
@TheTopher
@TheTopher 10 ай бұрын
I would, back seat is a little tight, so just make sure everyone fit ok!
@BovDrives
@BovDrives 10 ай бұрын
@@TheTopher we’re pretty short (5’10 and 5’2) so hopefully our kids don’t take after our dads at six feet!
@AlexandreCardinal50
@AlexandreCardinal50 10 ай бұрын
Would you pick this over a supra if usability wasn't a concern? That's my current dilemna
@TheTopher
@TheTopher 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, I think I would - always enjoyed my time in these more than the Supra. But as always -go drive both and see what speaks to you!
@GeronimoBiggles
@GeronimoBiggles 10 ай бұрын
Car and driver got better lap times in the ct4bw than the new v6 supra and CT4 is WAY more practical. Supra is a very claustrophobic feeling car. The only advantage the supra has is it's probably a little quicker in a straight line.
@AlexandreCardinal50
@AlexandreCardinal50 10 ай бұрын
@@GeronimoBiggles yeah I saw those also. The other things in favor of the supra are cost (saving 10-20k here in Canada), b58 character, looks (subjective) , weight, + the pads and rotors for the track. From what I've heard, the brake by wire of the ct4-v is worrying since the brake fade warning won't be calibrated for different pads, and the rotors look very expensive to replace. That's why I'm so torn. Practicality is not a concern, I've got no kids and no needs to carry more stuff than the supra can fit. I can also daily my S4 if I need to haul stuff
@GeronimoBiggles
@GeronimoBiggles 10 ай бұрын
@@AlexandreCardinal50 don't get the carbon ceramic rotors you don't need that bs just get the standard steel ones. I love my base spec ct4bw and I've driven the upgraded models too. Just get base spec and you'll thank me later for all the money you saved and the base seats are much more comfortable as well.
@AlexandreCardinal50
@AlexandreCardinal50 10 ай бұрын
@@GeronimoBiggles OK thanks, I really have to find one to test drive. For some reasons there are barely any sent to Canada so it's hard to find one that isn't 3h+ drive away from me
@E99584
@E99584 10 ай бұрын
I'm debating trading in my is500 for this in manual. Can't stop watching video on it
@clubracer6
@clubracer6 4 ай бұрын
Did you trade? If the IS500 came in manual I’d buy one.
@topjds1492
@topjds1492 10 ай бұрын
I would love you guys to review a normal CT5 in a spec that most people will get. I understand the appeal of the sport sedans, but I think most people will not be getting 500 hp manuals
@MukisaSS
@MukisaSS 10 ай бұрын
He did a review on the normal CT5 a few years ago: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4XIoaBqgtt0gc0si=SkbzKoBD3YpV2lq7
@topjds1492
@topjds1492 10 ай бұрын
There have been 6 blackwing (CT4 and CT5) reviews since that video came out, but I wasnt aware they did a 2020. I assume that not too much has changed since then...@@MukisaSS
@TheBanwait8
@TheBanwait8 10 ай бұрын
@@MukisaSS That's a Ct5 V review...not a regular Ct5
@Jmarzx
@Jmarzx 10 ай бұрын
Dont speak for us all because thats not true but I understand wym . Whats wrong with not actually u thinking bigger knowing u will own a sports sedan instead of settling for a base model .
@Bobcat9
@Bobcat9 4 ай бұрын
I'm genuinely torn between getting a new Acura Integra t-S or a used one of these, both are about the same money, both have great interiors for my taste, except no ventilated seat option on the Acura, but the Acura will be much cheaper to insure and maintain.
@TheMbeam
@TheMbeam 4 ай бұрын
I looked at the ITS. For just $10k or so more you go from 320hp to 472hp, 4 cylinder turbo to six cylinder twin turbo, and fwd to red. Also the ITS doesn’t even have some basics like passenger seat electronics. For me it was BW all the way. I paid about $15k more new with the upgraded seats. ITS is a good car though, just maybe should have been upper $40s like most thought at the time.
@TheMbeam
@TheMbeam 4 ай бұрын
Rwd
@Bobcat9
@Bobcat9 4 ай бұрын
@@TheMbeam $50-55k is already the very top of my budget, can't do $10k more. A used CT4-VB is right about $50k w/25-40,000 miles and that's fine for me. I'm a single guy with no kids, so I don't need a power passenger seat, or rear heated seats and I'm indifferent about a sunroof (not an option on the ITS anyway.) I just wish the ITS had ventilated seats and more than just 3 drive-modes, which is why the CT4-VB is attractive. Gotta have a manual, won't buy anything else.
@TheMbeam
@TheMbeam 4 ай бұрын
@@Bobcat9 Same. My first requirement is manual. My wife insisted on a 4 door (kids) so wanting 400+ hp and rwd, it was literally BW or M3. No other options unfortunately. My next car (keeping the BW) will be a 2 door. They are both terrific cars.
@mic9check
@mic9check 10 ай бұрын
Stick shift on a car that likely wont sell outside of the US (a market where relatively few can or want to drive manual) is an interesting decision.
@imwayne4159
@imwayne4159 10 ай бұрын
Would you get the automatic?
@k9gamerz145
@k9gamerz145 10 ай бұрын
Im looking at one of these or maybe a camaro ss 1le. I dont have kids yet so dont need a back seat but i do prefer sedans. But, i think the camaro is cheaper. Id like tonget the BW because they look so good to me and i actually like the TTv6. I also dont plan on getting one till 2025 or so. Decisions...😂
@ollyvoxx
@ollyvoxx 10 ай бұрын
Get the Caddy. Much more unique.
@gregjones2472
@gregjones2472 10 ай бұрын
Wonderful car
@jershinator13
@jershinator13 10 ай бұрын
Cross shopping this with the new m2 to replace my focus st as a daily. I also have a gr86. Which would you recommend?
@Jay-zx1sg
@Jay-zx1sg 8 ай бұрын
Better, by far. This will feel a little cheaper inside, but be a little larger in the back and more powerful. Also I've heard multiple BMW fanboys compare the driving feedback of this to early 00s BMW's, as in the good one. New ones are dead numb.
@DailyDriver.
@DailyDriver. 10 ай бұрын
Back end this car kind of ruins it for me. I like everything else about it more than the ats but I think the ATS looked better. The interior of this is night and day from the ATS and is certainly a winner. I still wish I had a better sounding engine but just like the ATS this is what we get. It’s a potent engine but I worry about heat soak when abusing it. Long live the manual sport sedan!
@laloloco14
@laloloco14 10 ай бұрын
This or an Acura Integra Type S? Which is more fun to drive?
@JamesonsDiecastCars
@JamesonsDiecastCars 10 ай бұрын
FWD architecture gets you only so far, especially on $25k Civic roots. The 4BW is on RWD architecture that traces to the Camaro alpha platform which has always been known for capable handling.
@muskistutter
@muskistutter 10 ай бұрын
No question it’s the CT4-BW. You can get it mid spec (sunroof, steering wheel, mid seats, no HUD) 6MT for 65K. So damn good.
@G82Watts
@G82Watts 10 ай бұрын
Bmw m2,m3..
@edlorenz1552
@edlorenz1552 10 ай бұрын
This or M2 manual? I have both on order.
@Jmarzx
@Jmarzx 10 ай бұрын
I bet u this is 10x more comfy than a m2
@Sayu2x
@Sayu2x 10 ай бұрын
@@Jmarzxbetter gearbox too
@GeronimoBiggles
@GeronimoBiggles 10 ай бұрын
If all you care about is performance numbers go m2. But CT4 is the better feeling drivers car and way more livable day to day and long term.
@JamesonsDiecastCars
@JamesonsDiecastCars 10 ай бұрын
Much better shifter and "feel" of all controls in the 4BW. Take it from someone with a 6spd BMW and 4Blackwing side by side in the garage.
@chilli1695
@chilli1695 10 ай бұрын
go CT4. You wont regret it. You also wont get flamed by your friends for driving a car that looks like an infected toe.
@smitdizz420
@smitdizz420 7 ай бұрын
The markups are insane if they'd sell it for MSRP I could buy it
@clubracer6
@clubracer6 4 ай бұрын
Markups have been gone for a while. You can get these below 60 with low mileage
@mustangGT375
@mustangGT375 10 ай бұрын
Nice review. I agree with most of what you said in the video, but I a few complaints from my ownership of my 23” ct4vbw It’s not a 4 seasons car, the shifter bushings screech when the car is ice cold, the transmission would grind 1-3 until the fluid warmed up, you lose adaptive CC. The longer I owned the car the more I really didn’t think it was worth the asking price. Thank god I got mine for almost 10k off sticker, but full asking price isn’t worth it.. awesome car, but mid 50s is where the value is at, not 70+
@Austin4BW
@Austin4BW 10 ай бұрын
bro you car should never grind gotta be user error or serious problems, mine has never grinded
@mustangGT375
@mustangGT375 10 ай бұрын
I’ve been driving manual transmissions for over 20+ years, more than half of those has been higher horsepower cars, so I am no idiot when it comes to driving a manual car…. So sorry, not operator error.
@ActionMan153
@ActionMan153 10 ай бұрын
Caddy's seem nice but I've heard from my mechanic buddies that the cars just aren't great, but I've still really liked the idea of the CT4 anyway. Cool video dude
@chilli1695
@chilli1695 10 ай бұрын
Caddys used to have big reliability issues. The LF4 that comes in these however is very robust and reliable. Not really an issue any more. Kinda like how the s58/b50 fixed BMWs reliability issues.
@Proparkourgamer
@Proparkourgamer 10 ай бұрын
7:48 why don't you start from 2nd gear instead of 1st. In my car, I always start 2nd gear
@ShaiyanHossain
@ShaiyanHossain 10 ай бұрын
2nd gear from a start wears on the clutch more afaik
@Proparkourgamer
@Proparkourgamer 10 ай бұрын
@@ShaiyanHossain maybe on some cars with long gear ratios. But I've seen a lot of people in my country do it. I do it, the clutch is fine
@JohnEvans-ct6mz
@JohnEvans-ct6mz 10 ай бұрын
Just wish the quality and attention to detail these cars get would trickle down to the affordable brands. GM can build damn good cars when they want to.
@Saravanan-uv5uz
@Saravanan-uv5uz 10 ай бұрын
Are you from USA or Canada Just curious
@stealthhtm23
@stealthhtm23 10 ай бұрын
Michigan, USA
@vaclav77777
@vaclav77777 10 ай бұрын
How reliable is the 3.6 l engine?
@chilli1695
@chilli1695 10 ай бұрын
its a 3.6 V six, not an inline 6. The LF4 in these things have been known to be pretty robust. Id say its pretty reliable all things considered. But you would obviously still be better off getting a Honda or Toyota if reliability is your main concern. Id say the LF4s in these is about as reliable as the S58, maybe a little less so. But it'll be a hell of a lot cheaper to fix if you live in the US, making it a better overall deal.
@Jmarzx
@Jmarzx 10 ай бұрын
10:36 this engine + exhaust stock sounds absolutely gorgeous sooo a full catless setups would be insaneeeee. The ct4 imo may be better than the ct5 cuz the Twin turbos. Imagine upgraded turbos in this easily 800+ hp with rebuilding the transmission and porting the manifold. Nd u get the turbo spools!!
@ShaiyanHossain
@ShaiyanHossain 10 ай бұрын
nah a supercharged v8 always sounds better
@jfsiiiautomotivereviews8343
@jfsiiiautomotivereviews8343 10 ай бұрын
If they could make the V Blackwing in AWD and make it less than 60k, that’d be sweet!!!
@jdfenix7
@jdfenix7 Ай бұрын
** car sounds like it’s throttle wide open Topher: we’ll wait til the car has some temperature before we get on it
@WayApp
@WayApp 10 ай бұрын
Impressive
@AmericanBusinessman422
@AmericanBusinessman422 2 ай бұрын
This thing has minimally better mpg than my 13 year old v12 twin turbo Mercedes s65 AMG...
@SternDrive
@SternDrive Ай бұрын
I'm a 73 year old pro driver who has never owned an automatic car. I'm a driving enthusiast, so I find automatics boring. However I'm wondering what the transmission designers were thinking?! They put the low speed reverse gear position near the high speed side! They put it right in the 7th gear position! What were they thinking? All pro heavy trucks for convenience put low speed reverse right next to low speed 1st gear, and low gear. Why put reverse all the way across on the other side? I'm curious what their logic was. I suspect these guys are not real enthusiasts, and their daily drive is an automatic, so they have no clue.
@_m.007_
@_m.007_ 10 ай бұрын
Location?
@huffnan9196
@huffnan9196 10 ай бұрын
I find the blackwings so much more engaging and lively than what the Germans make these days. plus in my opinion the contemporary Audi, Benz, and BMW design languages are so soulless compared to past years.
@enzoman1987
@enzoman1987 10 ай бұрын
This car’s like the grown up version of Kia Stinger
@JamesonsDiecastCars
@JamesonsDiecastCars 10 ай бұрын
If only the Stinger had been offered with a 6mt, especially the V6
@RodneyStephens-q4l
@RodneyStephens-q4l 10 ай бұрын
I have always loved Cadillacs but there is no way I would ever buy a newer Cadillac this day and time my thoughts of a Cadillac is a big long luxury 4-door sedans no one needs all the electronics they have in cars these days I mean damn it's a way to go to work and back or to the store you don't live in a car
@rideronboard
@rideronboard 10 ай бұрын
key fob matches the brake caliper color ordered. not the car.
@wojiaobill
@wojiaobill 10 ай бұрын
the engine sounds nice, but the body is reminiscent of an Accord, or a Corolla
@tombradydid9114
@tombradydid9114 10 ай бұрын
The Nissan GTR proves v6 engines can throwdown with anybody. Automakers should use them more. Also forget about EV's.
@mike80449
@mike80449 10 ай бұрын
I love this car but the markups are horrible and would never pay it 65 maybe 70k sure but I see these going for 85-90 cause of the mark up at that point absolutely not
@ryanb8736
@ryanb8736 10 ай бұрын
Don’t ever pay mark up on this.
@JamesonsDiecastCars
@JamesonsDiecastCars 10 ай бұрын
What's your market? A lot of people are getting these UNDER MSRP now.
@muskistutter
@muskistutter 10 ай бұрын
Not looking hard enough. There are dealers who sell these MSRP or under. Go look.
@chilli1695
@chilli1695 10 ай бұрын
Got mine 2k under MSRP. Might just be where you live.
@prodnxbu
@prodnxbu 3 ай бұрын
15:09
@matl7560
@matl7560 6 ай бұрын
BMW makes their suspension and interior components and dyes so .. I love the crayon smell but maybe I have a drug problem?! 😅😅
@Wqghfxz
@Wqghfxz 10 ай бұрын
Why can't Cadillac make good looking taillights?
@mitchellsteindler
@mitchellsteindler 10 ай бұрын
The only thing I dont get is why they don't put an ls or lt in it? The v8 would be lighter, just as powerful, sound better, more efficient. No you can't tune it just by applying more boost but oh well.
@JamesonsDiecastCars
@JamesonsDiecastCars 10 ай бұрын
The LT1 is 20lbs heavier than the LF4. So no, it wouldn't be a weight improvement. It also wouldn't fit. Could it have been MADE to fit? Sure. With so much additional tooling cost it would make the 4 cost as much as the 5 lol
@mitchellsteindler
@mitchellsteindler 10 ай бұрын
@JamesonsDiecastCars ls3...problem solved. Also turbo engines bring a lot more weight with them besides the engine itself so I don't buy your claim. All aluminum pushrod v8 vs all aluminum dohc v6 with 2 turbos, intercooler, all the extra coolant, extra oil, extra tubing and piping. Nah.
@mitchellsteindler
@mitchellsteindler 10 ай бұрын
@@JamesonsDiecastCars you also completely ignore all the other reasons this car would be better with a v8 🤣
@JamesonsDiecastCars
@JamesonsDiecastCars 10 ай бұрын
@@mitchellsteindler there is a stated dry weight for the LF4 vs the LT1. It's not a theory over which is lighter. The LS3 has been out of production for years and would never pass today's emissions so that's a nope. A V8 would "sound" better, that's bout it. A factory forced induction engine is easy to get gains from. There are already 700whp Blackwings to go with all the ATS-Vs. It's far more complicated and cost prohibitive on the NA engine even with two extra cylinders.
@JamesonsDiecastCars
@JamesonsDiecastCars 10 ай бұрын
@@mitchellsteindler no, not ignoring anything. I drove both the 4 and the 5 on track. The 5 was less sharp. A V8 wouldn't automatically make the 4 a better car. Look at where the 6 sits in the engine bay. I wouldn't want to affect steering and balance for the V8. No one drives the M3 and says it should have the M5s V8 lol. Yet somehow this is something people always bring up on the 4BW.
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