2024 Tesla Model 3 Highland vs BYD Seal: WHO WINS??

[@CarSauce]

Which are you buying? Why?? EDIT: You BYD fanboys are hilarious 🤣 We never said it copied the Highland variant, we said it copied the Model 3 - and it very clearly did. The model 3 “bulge” has been there for years, since it first came out.

[@henrymilord6450]

Neither. Both are made in the same country with questionable build quality and reliability issues, not to mention the batteries themselves. If I had to choose with a gun pointing at my head, I would go with the Tesla only because there is marginally a better quality through oversight over the BYD and nothing more. If the value proposition of all EVs were marketed significantly cheaper than the petrol variants considering the cost of living crisis and recession at the moment, I would go with a German or Japanese version every single time.

[@foxtrot762]

BYD Seal

[@davisnie9645]

I drove a Seal Performance and a M3 Long Range dual motor and ended up ordering the Tesla. To me, the Tesla was just so much nicer to drive, quieter and smoother around town. Plus, I don't have to take the Tesla back to a dealer and get it serviced for $300-400 every 20K as you have to do with the BYD. I do about 50K a year and that made a big difference.

[@tonypaca3015]

Why is the BYD handling worse when I didn't hear tire understeering noise and didn't observe as much body roll as I did in the Model 3 in those tight corners y demonstrated?

[@twisted_panties]

@@henrymilord6450So you have no experience with either and as such your opinion is less than zero.

[@gregharris8316]

I test drove both back to back and bought a BYD Seal Performance. Love it

[@andreasl4507]

Geeek

[@sanjidagitharkanasuraweera2352]

Every ones god damn quiz boot space tesla has huge space toss your mate in 😊😊😊😊😂

[@CThienV]

Has the thrill of the performance model worn off yet?

[@gregharris8316]

@@CThienV nope

[@Riaz-rony]

And now you are waiting hours on highway during long trip for charging, while the Tesla guy finished charging in 10/15 minutes without any searching for chargers. Good luck

[@davec110]

Test drove both. Picked the Seal. Coming from a European car i prefer the Seal interior. The ride quality and NVH is better in the seal for city driving due to it's softer suspension. Built quality is also better in the BYD. Silver tinted roof made a huge difference when i test drove this summer compared to the Highland. Not to mention parking sensors, stalks, gear shift, buttons, 360 camera, V2L, HUD just to name a few. BYD also does OTA just like the Tesla which you've failed to mention and it fixed most of the ADAS sensitivity issues now. I'm not a racing driver wannabe so it's a better family sedan compared to the highland.

[@andreasl4507]

Gayhead.

[@HermanWillems]

So your BYD had issues, i have my Model 3 for a while now. Never had a SINGLE issue. Also the ADAS from BYD is not developed by themselves. Unlike at Tesla it's all developed by themselves.

[@davout5775]

Better family sedan with so much less space? Sure bud

[@andreasl4507]

Byd is a joke in the future

[@vasil7410]

​@@HermanWillemsNo ADAS issues in Teslas? You obviously haven't owned one for very long, they have taken years of OTA updates to get it right. BYD sorted it out with software updates in a coupe of months.

[@TareqMahbub]

I will put my money on BYD! I find the design to be a lot nicer. By promoting minimalist, Tesla made a lot of cost cutting but not enough is done pricewise and that I would say doesn't benefit the buyers. They are obviously getting less for the money.

[@user-hz3eu5in]

Tesla did cost cutting? You sure about that? How much cost did they actually cut by removing a few very useful physical in the cabin? You can buy a keyboard for under 10 dollars, and that has 102 buttons.

[@ibsn87]

Ok, another shallow post. I’m curious, it appears you chose the less safe car, less efficient, less rigid chassis bearing in mind Tesla is using gigacasting, less connected, less app control, no equiv autopilot, less processing power, no octovalve - reverse cycle air conditioning, less quiet. And shorter warranty by 2 years. BYD on my last check also has poor integration into home automation and charging/ peak/ off peak / solar and battery utilization. Users also don’t have access to seals API. BYD seal as far as I know doesn’t utilize aluminum panels and carts around a few hundred kilos of extra mass. Tesla is also renowned for major software updates that have progressively added significant features year on year. Is the BYD is tied to the dealership model still? There’s a lot more to the decision making than styling alone. The seal is a nice car. Styling is and always will be subjective, but is the price comparably less to overlook the big ticket items from above? Or is safety and warranty less of a concern? Seems like the decision making is more on looks than tech, performace and safety… If you bother spending time to understand the deeper aspects of what Tesla have been doing. They are not cost cutting. They are pushing further ahead than any other manufacturer has done in years. Unlike other manufacturers they also have the overheads of building car factories and production processes from the ground up. The fact the cars are as affordable as they are is a testament to their engineering and manufacturing processes. Why is a new company making the 4 safest cars in the world? They are now paving the way to 48v low voltage architecture and steer by wire tech…. Watch everyone else follow. The same as casting chassis. They are one of the few manufacturers that are regularly reducing the cost of their cars when everyone else is going up over a long term scale. I’m blown away how you could make a statement like “getting less for the money”. You sir have not done your research and your decision making and justification is skin deep.

[@RemoteSpeed007]

Do you prioritize design over safety and the well-being of your family in your mind??

[@orangedeeler]

@@RemoteSpeed007byd = safety..better than tesla

[@fariqaiman]

Test both..going for the byd..its more comfortable and more user friendly..

[@JojonalolezaWalsh]

same here

[@kuldeuec]

It’s suited for old school guys, who are not into advance tech. Good choice 👍🏽..China understands and does things better ..❤😊

[@Enforcers10]

@@kuldeuecwhat is advanced?

[@HermanWillems]

@@kuldeuec You mean like infotainment system getting stuck in the BYD? Which is full of bugs ?

[@MooYimYai]

​@@HermanWillemsthe infotainment system is android. Nothing to do with BYD

[@Leeviathon]

The BYD Seal Premium is an absolute marvel, blending high-end performance with sleek design at a price point that's shaking up the luxury EV segment. This car is not just a ride; it's an experience that sets new benchmarks for what premium electric vehicles can be!

[@ItsJonesy777]

Test drove the Model 3 Highland several times before deciding to keep my Seal Performance order and have not regretted it once.

[@andreasl4507]

Yes you have brokie

[@ItsJonesy777]

@@andreasl4507 OK buddy!

[@johnsmith-cw3wo]

@@ItsJonesy777 love when ''L''-on fanboys who don't even have the money for a second hand Tesla comment on other cars.

[@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726]

But you will once you realise how much money BYD demands very year for servicing you car. Also the software is a joke and they don't even try FSD. You bought a car that is not at all future proof. And you will regret that big time.

[@johnsmith-cw3wo]

@@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 Only ''L''-on fanboys think Tesla's FSD is not a joke. 🤡 talk about waste of money... 😆😆

[@anselono2835]

We bought the BYD seal. So comfortable to sit in.

[@xaviart4727]

Never even considered Tesla. BYD Seal Performance had now 2 weeks and oh boy its fantastic! 😊

[@HermanWillems]

You like the annoying ADAS?

[@xaviart4727]

@@HermanWillems for me It works just like it was meant to. Warns, then acts just like driver should.

[@moncimoov]

im buying Seal!

[@brian.z6592]

Not a big fan of the"over simplify design", I still want my car to keep some physical buttons for the essential functions, so I'll go for the Seal.

[@catbert7]

Tesla does have all the essential functions in the scroll-wheel buttons on the steering wheel, including voice controls, so double coverage.

[@HermanWillems]

Tesla has physical buttons on the steering wheel. Which can control almost anything. So you are pretty wrong.

[@kelvinteo6104]

Can u open the glove compartment on tesla? Ridiculous to open via the tablet take 3 to 4 steps to open.

[@airrodgers1242]

Can you plug your refrig to the Tesla during a power outage.

[@mikeellsworth3606]

Bought the seal premium. Better interior, better outside styling plenty of power. Very happy

[@ibsn87]

Ok, I’m curious, it appears you chose the less safe car, less efficient, less rigid chassis bearing in mind Tesla is using gigacasting, less connected, less app control, no equiv autopilot, less processing power, no octovalve - reverse cycle air conditioning, less quiet. And shorter warranty by 2 years. BYD on my last check also has poor integration into home automation and charging/ peak/ off peak / solar and battery utilization. BYD seal as far as I know doesn’t utilize aluminum panels and carts around a few hundred kilos of extra mass. Tesla is also renowned for major software updates that have progressively added significant features year on year. Is the BYD is tied to the dealership model still? There’s a lot more to the decision making than styling alone. The seal is a nice car. Styling is and always will be subjective, but was the price comparably less to oversea the big ticket items from above? Or was safety and warranty less of a concern? I’m happy you’re happy, don’t get me wrong. Seems like the decision making is more on looks than tech, performace and safety.

[@ensteffo]

@@ibsn87 Ok, I’m curious, it appears you have stocks in tesla as people choosing the safer model over the tesla seem to anger you somehow. Probably linked to your stock portfolio.

[@ibsn87]

@@ensteffo

[@jasem6788]

@@ibsn87I’m Curious , it appeared you are a ITcell worker of Tesla 🤧

[@ibsn87]

@@jasem6788 does it upset you, I was objective and pointed out literal facts. When the OP made statements saying trivial items like the interior were better, when the tesla has big ticket items like efficiency and safety that are better. Sorry that doing so makes you think I’m affiliated with Tesla. Welcome to the automotive world where it’s normal to make comparisons. You must be new here.

[@PauloG100]

You are literally the only reviewer that I have seen who has said they like the turn buttons on the steering wheel!

[@ibsn87]

Just hired one for 48 hours thanks to work, navigating all the wild road’s Melbourne had to offer and approx 500km of driving. Going back into my car with an indicator stalk felt lame. At NO point did I have an issue with not being able to comprehend my left and rights. At no point was I dazzled and confused in a round about because - typically your not hand over hand in a round about. (If your turning your wheel more then 100 degrees in round abouts you have issues 😂) But then again. Spacial orientation is part of an IQ test. Some people just won’t be able to comprehend something a little different. Don’t knock it till you tried it. It’s absolutely mint.

[@spitzndtruth1484]

Dude is a Tesla BOT 😂😂😂 not a reviewer.

[@ibsn87]

@@spitzndtruth1484 when people say things you don’t agree with. You default to BOT. Maturity is high in this one.

[@deltazeros]

@@ibsn87 specially when you are being rude and sarcastic, it misses your point, even if valid. They are just trying to reinvent the wheel, and you are just trying really hard to justify it with your supposed "IQ test" comment. Accepting when something is neither efficient or innovative is also a part of maturity.

[@ibsn87]

@@deltazeros so, have you tried it? People literally say “how will I know what button to press in a round about”. Like what and where are people losing track of a button in a round about on a wheel that’s directly in front of them? People are literally making excuses to hate it, before they have tried it. And further more - try to justify it with bizzare statements, like how hard it would be to navigate a round about and indicate accordingly…. In my last approx 500,000 driving, I don’t recall a time I was hand over hand in a round about. In a smaller round about, The “left” button MIGHT be up toward the 1 o’clock potion at most? The sneaky little bugger. Very evasive and unpredictable. If you actually think about how you indicate through a round about in either setup, you usually indicate “out” as you turn back through steering centre……. Sorry my indirect generalized spacial orientation comment was rude 😂 people these days get upset about pronouns. Now it’s sarcastic comments about spacial orientation of a button on a steering wheel triggering individuals! Ps, not sure I rate the loss of the gear stalk in a quick 3 point turn on a busy street. Anywho, the clean aesthetic is mint, and believe it or not, it’s actually nice to use. As per my first comment. Don’t knock it, till you tried it. It’s just fine. And everyone who had a go of it enjoyed it after adjusting their muscle memory for 2 minutes.

[@Santeri.E]

We ordered Seal. Testdrive of tesla was good, but quality of Teslas and that bad warranty made us buy Seal. Basic Coverage 80 000 km / 4 years vs. BYD Seal 6 years / 150,000 km. In Germany Tesla Model 3 Is the Car That Failed the Most in Germany's Mandatory Vehicle Inspection. Thats super bad for new car that costs that much. And here in Finland new cars first Mandatory Vehicle Inspection is done when its 4 years old. And many ppl including me wil go much more than 80 000km in 4 years so before first inspection warranty is already gone.. Teslas software might be good, but cars might not be best quality. And about the supercharges. Those are open for everyone here where I live so it doesnt matter.

[@Geotechboom]

Exactly.. Byd seal is the safest care by EU standard

[@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726]

@@Geotechboomit is not. Not at all. You dirty liar. The Tesla is the safest car by far.

[@truongkimson]

How do you know the Seal won’t fail inspection 3 years down the line though

[@Santeri.E]

@@truongkimson Yeah it might fail. But with 6 years or 150,000 kms Vehicle Warranty its not that big problem. In 4 years i wont go over 150 000km, but Teslas 80 000km wouldn't be enough. Here in Finland first inspection is after 4 years and Teslas fail in 3 years in Germany so is it even safe to drive 4 years without inspection. On the forums ppl who own Teslas tell that they go for isnpection even before the 4 year deadline, so they can have car fixed under warranty. Idk about you but for me that sounds bad deal for 50k€ car.

[@truongkimson]

@@Santeri.E certainly a bad deal for a Tesla. Just curious why you’re more confident with an unproven product like the Seal. You should read the fine prints on what is covered/not covered in their 6yrs/150k km. I’d rather be skeptical

[@cong8973]

I'm so surprise to see that 80% of the comments seem to think BYD Seal is better. I tested both cars, I do agree with the majority that BYD Seal is better than TM3.

[@RemoteSpeed007]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3rRhZSkfc-hgZI

[@alisameer2007]

😂😂

[@jamesdawson3123]

Test drove a Seal, all I can say is Wow!! The ride, comfort and build quality made the Tesla look very cheap inside. Ordered a performance on the spot in White, came home and cancelled my Tesla order, so a big thank you to Tesla for delaying my order😊

[@ISuperTed]

Both great cars, but I’d have to take the Tesla, not because it’s a better car necessarily, as I like the Seal’s looks, but for the Tesla ecosystem. It’s just a lot better than anything else out there and no sign that will improve to anything like Tesla’s in the near future. If you’re doing any substantial mileage, having the Supercharger network and the Tesla car software and phone app just make everything easier.

[@Hans.-ze4jz]

What BS Tesla ecosystem? You got to be kidding me, what are you, Elon’s private milker?

[@Enforcers10]

In Germany are more non Tesla chargers than Tesla chargers. The dealership and repair network of Tesla is kinda katastrophal.

[@davout5775]

@@Enforcers10 Imagine if Tesla's "dealership and repair network" is bad what would BYD be

[@spitzndtruth1484]

For the ecosystem? 😂😂😂😂😂what a simp! So you went Ah fk the passengers in the back fk the better look fk the better interior actually "fk the whole car I'm chasing ecosystems" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 how often do you drive 700km in a go? 2 times a year? Let's just be honest...you wanted to be able to run around telling EVERYONE.....I BOUGHT A TESLA!!! HAHAHA Simp

[@GavinHincks]

I drove both and liked the seal more as it felt like a car, I’m 52 so old fashioned, but have driven some cars in my time and found the seal better. Good on you guys keep up the great reviews

[@iantelinside]

The back seat of the Tesla looked mighty uncomfortable 🫤

[@fatdoi003]

sat in my friend's M3 back, don't know how to place my feet to feel comfortable

[@isaak4416]

Yet, he prefers it from the Seal!!!!! Go figure....

[@iantelinside]

I recently sat in the back seat of both. Seal is definitely more comfortable. More knee room and the back is not so upright

[@spitzndtruth1484]

​@@isaak4416 the guy is a stain

[@RickRobinsonDonnellan]

I test drove both T3 and BYD. For me, I loved the performance BYD and the driving experience was much better overall than the T3. You say "conventional" - I say, "less basic". The T3 was way way too far minimalistic. To actually put 70k down on a car that has so little to excite me was just not an option. I think car reviewers dont truly, truly understand the feel of putting their own hard earned money down on a car enough. Each to their own though. The Seal is full of little intricacies, higher performance, cheaper, more quality, and turns heads.

[@boonchewchan8245]

My vote and money goes to BYD Seal. Better looks, better interior quality, better built quality and ride comfort.

[@parnamsaini4751]

Twocanchew...Nice car

[@michalandrejmolnar3715]

Better driver assistance

[@PH61a]

Better interior quality: I don't think so. I also consider the BYD's interior to be very, very ugly. I guess it's something Australian to prefer BYD. In Europe they're not even close. For me: M3, no doubt!

[@boonchewchan8245]

@@PH61a you are entitled to your opinion, so am I and everybody else.

[@wentjen]

In Asia namely Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia and etc everybody prefers BYD seal anyday over Tesla. From the look, interior, design, range, speed, and etc and etc. It definitely fits more to our taste.

[@harrylo2316]

Yeah, only because the BYD sells for cheaper. Typical peasant mentality. 😂

[@MrIndo-pt5fy]

Most important - price. In Indonesia Tesla is almost 2,5 times more expensive😢

[@mcsoo5291]

I am about to say that too. Tesla Innovation seems cumbersome. And the way that you operate is like you want to show off the innovation yet you sacrifice the usability. The rear seat in Tesla model 3, turn me off. Unless I am still single and without family, I would probably dont mind the rear seat being narrow. Going in and out of the rear seat is a pain. Model Y is better.

[@cabbit3008]

False, in Malaysia more people own Tesla's than BYD. You can see model 3's all over but very little BYD seals

[@GooferyCH]

@@cabbit3008 Partially false. In Thailand, I see much more BYD's than Teslas.

[@williamwong503]

Tried both and the Seal is simply superior is most way. So…..

[@kuldeuec]

Yes best for laidback people who are not into new tech, BYD wins for the majority, Chinese will always win.

[@davout5775]

No, it is not. It is inferior in almost every way

[@orangedeeler]

@@davout5775c0pium

[@keithentwistle3575]

The Seal is inferior in so many ways...

[@beta__6109]

The BYD Seal was released before the new Model 3 so It's actually the new Tesla Model 3 that takes a lot of inspiration from the BYD Seal. The problem is most people in the West can't imagine that they're not at the center of the automative industry. But China is the most important market for most Western automakers including Tesla and changes are made for Chinese consumers primarily. Tesla clearly changed the Model 3 to keep up with BYD in China.

[@catbert7]

Or it might be that you seem ignorant of there being a model 3 before the Seal, that was around for years before the new one 🤦‍♂️

[@beta__6109]

@@catbert7 they could've have benchmarked the seal off the Tesla Model 3 but since BYD took the lead in China Tesla is now benching marking off the Seal. And doing the same not just off the Seal but other BYD's and Chinese cars. The new Model 3 headlights clearly take inspiration from the Seal. Very obvious if you had been following the Seal from its release before the new Model 3. None of this would be controversial if BYD and other China automakers benchmarking from Tesla wasn't meant to seem like it was copying.

[@hermesliteratus882]

Obviously, in Australia it's politically incorrect to suggest that Tesla is copying BYD, these reviewers got to toe the line . @@beta__6109

[@mrboogang]

Incorrect, but nice try muppet.

[@beta__6109]

@@mrboogang well if you have the proof to prove I'm incorrect, please by all means provide it.

[@vbmdsm]

I've gone with the Seal.

[@hermesliteratus882]

Good call.

[@Thailand-Servant-111]

In Thailand, my daughter ordered a Tesla Model 3 because while traveling she could view and control the rear media display herself. 😅 When I owned more than 10,000 Km., I liked the average energy consumption of 127kwh /100 Km. and the CCTV security system around the car that could be viewed through my mobile phone at all times. 😊 As for the BYD Seal software system. Not impressed And there is no rear monitor. In addition, many parts of the suspension need to be improved. Because the car was tossing around a lot, the passengers were dizzy.😅

[@Best_Chuansatien]

Agree with this byd suspension is like shock absorber is not good enough to stop spring even much better interior. I still will get Model 3

[@adeafningsilence]

The BYD looks a lot nicer, but the brand doesn't have the cache of Tesla yet. You're probably getting something that's better quality though

[@tommylou77]

For me it's the BYD 👍

[@PauloG100]

Interesting that you think Tesla has cache. In Europe anyway, Tesla (especially the 3)is seen as the white goods choice in EVs.

[@ibsn87]

⁠@@tommylou77 Ok, I’m curious, it appears you chose the less safe car, less efficient, less rigid chassis bearing in mind Tesla is using gigacasting, less connected, less app control, no equiv autopilot, less processing power, no octovalve - reverse cycle air conditioning, less quiet. And shorter warranty by 2 years. BYD on my last check also has poor integration into home automation and charging/ peak/ off peak / solar and battery utilization. BYD seal as far as I know doesn’t utilize aluminum panels and carts around a few hundred kilos of extra mass. Tesla is also renowned for major software updates that have progressively added significant features year on year. Is the BYD is tied to the dealership model still? There’s a lot more to the decision making than styling alone. The seal is a nice car. Styling is and always will be subjective, but is the price comparably less to overlook the big ticket items from above? Or is safety and warranty less of a concern? Seems like the decision making is more on looks than tech, performace and safety…

[@netopierro10]

@@ibsn87 it seems like in most places of the world Tesla is about 15% to 20% more expensive. In Brazil, for some reason i dont really know, Tesla is 60% more expensive. So, at least in Brazil, the BYD is a no brainer. It is selling about 1200 seals per month, it is very decent numbers considering EVs still less than 3% of brazilian total cars.

[@ibsn87]

@@netopierro10 fair enough, here the price is close to each other, just been reading a lot of comments around “Tesla robbing customers”, and giving them nothing for their money. When in reality, all the big ticket items from efficiency, safety, performace and connectivity are better in the Tesla. People seem to associate complexity with interior buttons and miss even fine details like an extra 2 years warranty. Thanks for adding to the conversation, interesting to compare costs in other countries. I guess it comes down to shipping and import duties/ taxes/ some teslas/Ev’s fall into luxury car tax in some counties as well. But sure. The seal is great value for money. Especially if the price is that different as you say. Makes perfect sense. Still a nice car!

[@-PORK-CHOP-]

I think BYD could make the BYD logo a bit smaller, it's still too big, and get rid of the second BYD next to the SEAL, there is no need for BYD twice on the rear of the car.

[@lukemothug]

I've seen a byd seal completely debadged and it looked awesome.

[@OlimiaDaddy]

Agrees

[@SammyJ239]

I just debagged the rear of ours, it took all of 5 mins...... looks awesome kzbin.infoh0kpJ5SJftg?feature=share

[@りたく-h6m]

世界共通で同じことを考えるんですね。ちょっと嬉しくなりました。

[@jaydenandrews02]

The only thing that would make me choose the Tesla is the availability of its charging infrastructure and dealerships for any services or assistance needed. Otherwise, the BYD Seal had me sold on everything else and is the better car, in my opinion. Especially cause it has a normal fuckin gear selector and parking sensors. Not just a screen slider and touch buttons up top. The BYD will still give you the feeling of driving a normal car.

[@rcpmac]

Superchargers are now available with adapter to most other EVs Ford, Rivian etc. I'm in the USA

[@RemoteSpeed007]

BYD quality issues.....kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3rRhZSkfc-hgZI

[@dingbatt]

As the owner of a 2022 Model 3 RWD, I have recently tested driven both the Seal and Highland. In short I’m changing to the BYD. To be honest, in everyday driving I didn’t notice that big a difference between my M3 and the new one. On the same drive, it was 10% more efficient but I really didn’t notice a better ride quality or that it was that much quieter. Maybe that is down to NZ’s coarse chip roads. The ventilation system is still just as poor as in my car, particularly on fresh air rather than recirculating. And now, as well as removing the radar and USS, they have done away with the steering column stalks. That, combined with no driver’s display, makes the (budget driven) “minimalist” interior a step too far. When compared to the Seal, the Tesla interior looks and feels cheap. After 2 years the creaks and rattles have started to appear in my Tesla. I can’t comment on whether that would be evident in the Seal because they haven’t been around long enough. The Seal is a better “Grand Tourer” in my opinion and because I drive in a relaxed manner, comfort is more important than sports car handling. The voice assistant is just as good at interpreting my Kiwi accent as the Tesla although it doesn’t include the option to use the juvenile language such as “open butt-hole” to open the charging flap (yes I know it’s manual on the BYD). What it does do though, thanks to wireless Apple CarPlay/Android Auto integration, is give access to your phone’s voice assistant through the steering wheel button (long press). Tesla Superchargers are not as ubiquitous in NZ as other countries and they are the same (high) cost, so they are less of a factor in purchasing.

[@Jason-kh9us]

how are you getting a new car after two years lol

[@tonypaca3015]

1/The front of the byd taking inspiration from the refreshed model 3 was a flat lie. the seal came way before the new model 3 which has changed a lot. 2/Why placing the wireless charging there is a copy of the model 3? Is the Model 3 the first car to do that?NO, tesla introduced wireless charging in their cars only in 2018. Tesla's painting coming off is nothing new, that is why everyone does ppf otherwise it starts coming off in a few months. I do find the new model 3 interior nicer, but I pick the byd. driving these new Teslas with all these removed parts is a safety hazard: no indicator stalk, no gear shifter, no 360-degree camera, no sensors, no radars, no small screen etc, etc. Would y buy a car like that for your mother or grandmother? be serious

[@oliverlyon7650]

He’s Australian so you should expect such comments 😂

[@andreasl4507]

Gay geek. Get a life.

[@burnttoast9890]

It's not called the land down under for no reason

[@andreasl4507]

Model 3 came out 10 years before byd seal. Grow up with your fake info

[@alastairhatt360]

Please do not judge all Australians to this guy who.s comments are all over the place and inaccurate. I have driven both and the BYD seal is I’m sure a good car but not the best driving car and very busy inside. The M3 was a breathe of fresh air when driven even the minimalist was like finally no useless buttons you only use once to set up and then just gather dust! Also better tech in the M3.

[@randomname931]

no HUD, no traditional dash, no blinker stalk, no buttons, no rear cross traffic sensors, no radar/sonar/lidar, no sale. BYD for me.

[@qilu2004]

The interior, or the lack of it, of Tesla, is a no go for me. The minimalism is just a sugarcoat of “cheap” and “stingy”. It is more like a cheap Korean car from 20 years ago while the Seal is comparable to luxury German cars. On performance they both have more than enough for 99.999% of the drivers in real life.

[@Enforcers10]

Tesla could Programm a steering wheel in the center screen, and sell it to there customers as innovative future. And u will find Fanboys telling u, it’s absolute fine to drive by touchscreen 😆

[@RemoteSpeed007]

@@Enforcers10 Rather buy BYD then, if you don't mind the quality - kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3rRhZSkfc-hgZI

[@adriaanserrao2016]

Removing the radar and the PDC is the same as saying only having 2 airbags is better because it's the bare essentials. And no stalk is stupid af.

[@Enforcers10]

Well after they failed saving money, on offering only a half steering wheel, they have to save somewhere else :)

[@Suwael-15]

Who needs a stalk when your car drive itself in the near future.

[@adriaanserrao2016]

@@Suwael-15 A Tesla won't drive itself within the next 15 years. And it wont work at all using their camera only system, because it just doesn't provide enough data. This has been proven by every company that actually has self driving taxi's.

[@Suwael-15]

@@adriaanserrao2016 do you live in a cave? Bruh youre trollin hahaha

[@gracefultowels3283]

Mate the highland just released. Byd seal is released from 2022. Who copy who? Lol

[@hermesliteratus882]

These reviewers have no basic common sense.

[@arminius6506]

​@@hermesliteratus882seems like we need reviewers for these reviewers

[@Enforcers10]

@@arminius6506😂😂😂

[@passby8070]

exactly!

[@miguellima2204]

To be honest they were saying the same with the old model .

[@manishp173]

This review seems like they were paid by Tesla. BYD blows Tesla out in every aspect, specially the interior quality. Dont understand what was their logic to rate Tesla better in that department. FYI, i own none of these vehicles, just an honest personal opinion.

[@johnsmith-cw3wo]

probably Tesla do behave better if you ''throw it'' in corners.... but since normal people don't drive like that, is not very relevant.

[@kuldeuec]

You’re right, always select car based on interior, technology advancement is for noobs.

[@johnsmith-cw3wo]

@@kuldeuec especially when it sux like Tesla. 💩

[@hermesliteratus882]

It's not about the building quality of the cars, it's all about political correctness.

[@Enforcers10]

@@kuldeuecwhat is advanced on that Tesla? It’s just a cheap car missing tons of functions, which all my cars in the last 15 years had. Tesla was advanced 10 years ago with there range… but that’s history mate. Now it’s just a good range car for cheap money. And u get what u pay for.

[@jamasa84]

Why wouldn't you go the base model of the Seal? Have you driven one?

[@kasmstamps1897]

Very few have as they haven't been delivered yet. Till then have to watch Premium & Performance reviews.

[@jamasa84]

@@kasmstamps1897 ok so why does he say he doesn’t recommend it?

[@kasmstamps1897]

@@jamasa84 Premium I think is the sweet spot. For extra $9k get bigger battery, better range, faster performance, heads up display, leather seats, faster dc charging &, couple of other things. Unfortunately I can't afford Premium so I'm getting Dynamic. Base Dynamic Seal I think is better and, cheaper than high optioned Attos, MG4s or other. JMO but I think others will draw similar conclusions for themselves.

[@jamasa84]

@@kasmstamps1897 a bigger battery is like paying more for a bigger fuel tank. Unless you’re regularly driving more than 400kms, what is the point? That’s a whole lot of wasted battery cells not doing anything except weighing the car down. Additionally, the performance benefit of the premium over the dynamic is minimal. People need to be smarter about these things. More is not always better.

[@jasonmoloney2279]

Wife and I both got the seal. She bought the performance I bought premium. Cabin is far more comfortable than the Tesla. The panoramic roof far better quality for Aussie conditions.

[@kuldeuec]

It’s better for non tech people any day, China is superior technology any day. Good choice

[@yome1562]

I do love and use the screen rotation feature in the byd. Prefer the portrait mode when using the navigation

[@sibaraku2023]

Model 3 is for bachelors and seal for people with a family. Pros and cons. M3 may have a better driving experience, but it is only for the driver. They are both cheap EVs mostly for daily driving. A little bit faster and better handling at high speed cutting corners doesn't beat the comfort in Seal. All seats are comfortable in seal, especially the back seats. Again. If you are single and driving it alone most of the time, definitely M3, otherwise Seal would be a much better choice.

[@moncimoov]

wait till BYD get a facelift.. better tablet, UI, and software

[@rcpmac]

If it's the UI that's holding you back, I would imagine that any software update would be retroactive via update.

[@agusedyanto3324]

Reportedly, BYD has updated the software in March this year

[@randy74989]

I invested in BYD two years ago, along with Uncle Warren and Grandpa Charlie (RIP Charlie, we miss you much!). It's one of my top-performing stocks in my long-term retirement IRA portfolio. BYD is the world's largest manufacturer of plug-in hybrid and electric vehicles, and they have a vertically integrated business model. There's more to the company than just vehicles - do some research and you'll see what I mean. The main thing holding the stock price back is the "buy American" agenda pushed by the political class and elites.

[@HermanWillems]

Warren is selling his stock you know right? The problem is not BYD but the CPC communist party that is destroying private companies and supporting state owned companies in China. The problem in political world on earth is autocratic regimes where a few people control everything. This is not good.

[@A_BricksAndThings]

Tesla, too different for difference sake. Decades of driving I like my dash screen and indicator stalks. Agree, BYD need to improve handling.

[@Cooley93]

The main thing is saftey and software. Tesla will definitely always keep updating software. I have a 2019 model 3 and will get updates until the car dies. With saftey its hard to beat Tesla. Look up the crash test reports in your country to see the saftey score. Here in the US it is 4.8/5.

[@MrGanbat84]

I think BYD is better at most aspects. Yet there is Xioami Su7 that is killer too

[@tren133]

Too bad the Xiaomi won't be exported from China anytime soon, but the SU7 is legit one of the most hyped car launches in recent memory, and consumers agree because it gathered well over 100,000 preorders in less than 24 hours.

[@ibsn87]

Tesla. Safest car in class, more efficient, more rigid chassis with a cast chassis, way more connected, way more app control, autopilot, way more processing power, octovalve - reverse cycle air conditioning, quieter. Longer warranty by 2 years. How shallow is your decision making here lol? Better at most aspects??? BYD is tied to the dealership model. No thanks

[@ensteffo]

@@ibsn87 Ok, I’m curious, it appears you have stocks in tesla as people choosing the safer model over the tesla seem to anger you somehow. Probably linked to your stock portfolio.

[@ibsn87]

@@ensteffo Sorry it offended you. I brought a conversation, I brought facts. If it makes you feel better, I’ve spent considerable time in both. I also don’t have stocks, I wish I had. Bet you do too! Ever heard of the conversation about who’s better, ford or Holden. It’s pretty common to compare vehicles mate. That’s EXACTLY what this channel is doing. Would you like me to finish with your maturity…. You must work for the dealerships. Your comment also doesn’t make sense to me, as the Tesla technically has a higher safety rating as per my original comment. However both max out the star rating hence why Tesla are pushing to add more stars and change the scale. As happened with energy rating systems for white goods…. Both are safe cars, however, the Tesla got a whopping 96% for adult occupant protection. Model 3 96%,87%,75%,94%, (352) seal - 89%,87%, 82%,75% (333)

[@harrylo2316]

​@@ibsn87Do you even know what you're on about? The TM3 doesn't have a cast chassis, unlike the Model Y.

[@mconnah1]

No mention of one pedal driving, which is a big issue for me… it is so intuitive in the Tesla…

[@Guido73]

how does the BYD handle navigation to chargers? Will it make suggestions or does it use google maps (or anything else)? Does it autolock or do you need to use a key(fob)?

[@adopstap]

A larger battery is fine. But the kWh/100 km consumption is higher in the BYD. Every kWh the car needs, has to be paid. So why not compare the cost of driving in AUD/100 km for both models? E.g. cost of charging at home and (average price of) fast charger per kWh.

[@Riaz-rony]

You guys missed the most Important thing, which is charging and the charging network. Unless someone else comes up with the same Tesla supercharging network, I'm keeping my Tesla. And we have 2 electric cars at home, 1 tesla and another one non-tesla, and I know the painful experience of taking a non-tesla car for long trip.

[@tommylou77]

For now...SEAL is the best choice for EV 👍

[@anthonyfrancis274]

Nice review, thoroughly enjoyed it. Just an observation from my perspective. To me the interior of a byd wins hands down over the Tesla. Not because it looks more normal but because of the presence of a HUD. I have a model Y, love the car, but i strongly maintain a HUD would have made it much better(and safer). Here in Melbourne, we have speed cameras every few km, and a speed tolerance of just 2kmph. Not having to take my eyes off the road to check my speed (or for navigation info) is just safer. Lastly, my model y squeaks and rattles, if the byd doesn't rattle, that's another win for the interior. Overall i agree with you that the model 3 wins hands due to its superior driving dynamics

[@dyemanoz]

Thanks for the review! Don't forget voice commands are available for many functions in a Tesla so you don't necessarily need to use the screen ("open glovebox", "I'm cold/hot" etc). Also iphone integration is very functional - you can stream music (and control using the steering wheel's scroll wheels), dictate text messages to send via your phone and so on. Also, changing settings like seat position etc are a once-only thing - they are saved with your profile and set automatically when the car recognises who you are (your phone is your key normally, not the card). Does the BYD do this? - Tom Gan's reviews seem to say you need to change some the car's settings before each drive?? (not seats obviously..). Agree that it is a pity they neutered the sound system in the new Standard Range, otherwise (apart from acceleration) there isn't a lot of practical difference - the long range has a bigger battery and longer max range, but it's not recommended to charge more than 80% on a regular basis, while the standard range LFP battery can (and should) be charged to 100% as normal practice and in that case has much the same range as the long range. Regarding using the card key to unlock the car - not the usual case: normally your phone is your key and the car automatically unlocks when you come into bluetooth range, and locks when you move away.

[@leerizer]

I'll go for BYD 1. More physical button which I could stay focus on road condition and control car / entertainment system simultaneously. 2. Tesla 3 exterior look boring after so many year in market. Old and New model 3 look similar exterior 3. BYD's sunroof without central bar look way better

[@Karlos305]

If they are close as cars. Which they look be. It's Tesla every time because of the charging network

[@rcpmac]

Charging network is now opening up to other manufacturers with adapter - at least in the USA in any event, historically only 10% of charging is done on a network 90% at home.

[@HermanWillems]

@@rcpmac It's open, but for a much higher price per kWh. You didn't mention that because you where not honest.

[@michalandrejmolnar3715]

​@@HermanWillemsHow much?

[@minama5147]

The back seat of tesla is terrible. And Does tesla has interior？ It's only one screen there. New tesla has no indicator stalk ,no gear shifter, no 360 degree camera, Cut all the sensor. Sorry tesla I don't see all these are innovation. It's only for cutting the cost. So I go for seal. Just a simple good car.

[@rcpmac]

And the Tesla has that "Musky" stench.

[@lukemothug]

​@rcpmac you mean Elon Musky Stench

[@johnsmith-cw3wo]

@@lukemothug muskrat poop stech.

[@whatthe6532]

You are right. Backseat space and comfort a complete fail.

[@tomdenboer1961]

Must say the camera' s in the New tesla 3 working fine, but without the sensors , radar it was using your own sensors, when i whould have relied on the camera's i whould hevan been in a accident of two at last the day I drove it. (Rotterdam area netherland)

[@SalkoSalcinovic]

Picked up the Seal Performance on friday and it's great. Personal preference.

[@0starman0]

As for the TM3. When it comes to safety you don’t remove anything. Have redundant systems that compliment the main. Don’t rely on just one thing. If it crashes in to things while parking what’s it going to do at speed?... great review and Chanel guys.

[@jond3090]

Addicted to your reviews. Find myself watching every episode even if the car doesn't interest me. Keep it up lads

[@JYLFishing]

Model 3 or Model Y for that matter never had front bumper camera.

[@riojoseph2485]

Thanks Matt. You are correct on the final thoughts "I wouldnt go for the base model , I wouldnt go for the performance " The premium is the optimal choice here as dynamic looses too much grunt , the performance version falls short of performance. The EV tends to loose a bit off puff after 110km , this never made sense when Jake was explaining but driving the premium version and I see what he meant. It is faster like I can still keep up with anyone overtaking me at 110km but the 0- 70Km is swift compared to 80-110km.

[@balisingh143]

The fact that new car (BYD Seal) is being compared to eight year old Tesla proves that Model 3 is a bench mark. Clearly, new BYD owners are furious that their car is still being considered as second best. Sorry, too bad too sad. Just get on with your choice and call it a day. Be thankful to Tesla for pushing other car manufacturers to come up with something better, finally, after eight years, BYD made a good car if not better.

[@Jason-kh9us]

nah mate, this version of M3 is not 8 years old.

[@justice4g]

they'd be preferable in a liftback

[@DK-si2xy]

Heard there is a lift back / sportback byd model coming late 2024

[@LocoPoco-bp5sx]

e2 is the byd hatchback coming late 2024

[@milkmangaming3325]

Great review, but I'm having a hard time trying to figure out what camera you say tesla removed because they've never had a camera in the bumper, I'm guessing your talking about the radar they removed in the bumper back in 2021, they have always had 3 in the front windshield, 2 on the sides, 2 in the middle pillar, 1 in the back and 1 in the cabin. Please correct me if I'm wrong, thx.

[@balisingh143]

Oh i see BYD fanboys all over the place and commenting furiously to justify their purchase of byd. Chill, they are both good cars, i would prefer to have one of each, best of both worlds.

[@HermanWillems]

Most are from Chinese decent living in the west. Trying to justify their political purchase.

[@fishndive1961]

If BYD had these in Australia for 5 years already and they were lasting well, I'd look at the Seal. At this stage though, I think I would rather wait and see how they age.

[@techreview8661]

There was never a front camera on the model 3

[@athif]

Did the model 3 have a front camera in the bumper?

[@Grudlin74]

Does the Seal have vehicle to load?

[@yifuwu3261]

Yes

[@DK-si2xy]

Yes and Tesla doesn't

[@jamessmith-yk3sc]

don't forget many things like glove box wipers ect. can be done with voice commands without taking your eyes off the road.

[@yinyang9109]

I once test drove the model Y, my neck was crooked at the end because my eyes constantly focused at the speedometer on the centre screen instead on the road. I really wonder how the model 3, Y and Cybertruck was passed the safety tests in the first place?

[@joe_shh]

It is always politically safer to rate Tesla higher.🤣

[@ibsn87]

Is that because the BYD is a less safe car, less efficient, less rigid chassis bearing in mind Tesla is using gigacasting, less connected, less app control, no equiv autopilot, less processing power, no octovalve - reverse cycle air conditioning, less quiet. And shorter warranty by 2 years. BYD on my last check also has poor integration into home automation and charging/ peak/ off peak / solar and battery utilization. Users also don’t have access to seals API. BYD seal as far as I know doesn’t utilize aluminum panels and carts around a few hundred kilos of extra mass. Tesla is also renowned for major software updates that have progressively added significant features year on year. Is the BYD is tied to the dealership model still? There’s a lot more to the decision making than styling alone. The seal is a nice car. Styling is and always will be subjective, but is the price comparably less to overlook the big ticket items from above? Or is safety and warranty less of a concern? Seems like the decision making is more on looks than tech, performace and safety… Why is a new company making the 4 safest cars in the world? They are now paving the way to 48v low voltage architecture and steer by wire tech…. Watch everyone else follow. The same as casting chassis. They are one of the few manufacturers that are regularly reducing the cost of their cars when everyone else is going up over a long term scale. So, is it political. Or are others in denial because they don’t actually understand what’s really going on ? I think it’s the latter.

[@Harrythehun]

Glad that there are options for buyers. I would choose Tesla every day and night. The software, app, drivetrain, phone key, autopilot, charging speeds, crash safety, safety features, camp mode, navigation and overall utility. The BYD has nice interior.

[@Best_Chuansatien]

i will add one more thing the suspension Byd is have too soft shock absorber. it is not match spring rate.

[@FrankGallagherr]

Tesla is the best car company ever! No gas stations, No oil changes, No smog check, No corrupt dealership, No catalytic converter and fast as fuck!

[@rcpmac]

And what other EV doesn't have those same qualities. Fit and finish are notoriously bad on Teslas and it has that "Musky" stench.

[@michalandrejmolnar3715]

BYD is better, also Hyundai

[@RechargableBattery]

The reason we went BYD is it's much better in so many ways. Our BYD is so perfectly built. if you look at the attention to detail and build quality BYD is outstanding compared to Tesla creaks and rattles.

[@georgezhou814]

BYD has built a wonderful EV standard: drive as EV but being built as sporty ICE car with much affordable price. Simplicity is good but the way Tesla define may keep new shoppers who are new to EV thinking that it’s only the act of cost cutting while remaining the higher price in the competitive EV market. Fanboys or tech savvy (or I should call “tech nerb”😂) could be still fascinating about every Tesla facelift regardless how it is built, but sooner when all other EV rivals keep refining their model in new facelift, boringly popular Tesla like Toyota should feel the risk of holding their loyalty fans-based position. I am sold for BYD Seal

[@bigrobsydney]

No contest. Tesla. Supercharger network is amazing, and when the Ludicrous model comes out, it will cast a halo over everything Tesla, to the extent that EVERYTHING will be left in the shade.

[@hadtobe4502]

Seems like this review was pre-determined for Tesla. BYD is way better, which was even brought out in this video. Minimalist, no thanks.

[@NotTheMaestro]

Model Y Performance for me. The BYD just uses copy/paste but their paste function seems to make it worse.

[@eddylee3826]

Byd far better after driving Tesla for last 3 years

[@RemoteSpeed007]

How much do they pay you to lie like this? kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3rRhZSkfc-hgZI

[@MGriff-q1i]

Interior space? The fundamental design principle that springs to mind with the BYD is “All emphasis is NO emphasis”. It looks way too busy, cluttered and that puts me off. The Tesla is so minimalist apart from the screens, it would take a while to adjust to.

[@lindband]

But you can put to a supercharger that’ll go up to 350kw/h not just 175, you’ll spend double of time to charge the seal, plus where to charge?

[@tomdenboer1961]

In the Netherlands we are covered with Charge points but when you looking into the real charging capacity you must be Happy when you get 120 Amp..

[@mcsoo5291]

when you are using 350kw charging. You dont get 350kw all the way. maybe from 10%-40% you will get 350KW, towards the 60-80%, you will probably getting between 70kw-120kw.

[@Clarkie0070]

In NZ the RWD M3H is $66k , the Seal Premium is $73k BYD Australia have been aggressive with there prices, with the Seal being a good amount less than the Tesla M3 it's a no brainer imo...get the Seal as most of the commenters have done. I have nothing against Tesla, I'd be happy to own either vehicle, given the choice I'd go the Seal. Tesla supercharger infrastructure pretty average in nz also

[@LeMe-kv9jd]

Obviously BYD seal is just better.

[@RyanCowan]

Incredible review & summary of both vehicles! Pretty much exactly my thoughts after driving both.

[@amulia1]

Tesla drives better, it really handles. But there are too many draw backs and cost cutting to get to that price. No turn signal is a huge nono, I cant click the button when turning the steering wheel, also no shifter also is so weird for me. BYD feels more like a traditional car, both the way it drives and the way it feels inside. I don't think I am fully ready for what tesla is pushing out. I get that design may be the future, and tesla is doing so because it assumes in the future we wont really have to drive since it would all be on auto pilot, but its too soon for me. Maybe in 10 years.

[@cmathieu]

Great comparison review - I went for the Model 3 mainly for it's software tech - prefer not having a key fob and having to lock the car manually when walking away (unless BYD has added this feature since I last test drove it??) - having the car 'route plan' charging stops on long trips is another 'must have' for me as well as the Supercharger network - being able to charge at 11kw AC at home is another plus - very happy with my Model 3. That's not to say that the BYD Seal is bad car - far from it, it's just not the EV for me 😊

[@vtv8man]

I just came across your Channel. I am now a subscriber. I’m coming from a M135i BMW which I have loved. The three cars in my sights are the Tesla Model 3 and Y, and Seal. Will be test driving the Seal next weekend after driving the Tesla’s yesterday. Handling first, Random steering inputs and Phantom Braking will make my decision I think… Thanks for the great video.

[@michaelharrington9966]

Well done guys, great review. You have definitely improved with your reviews.

[@derradune6722]

I wouldn’t be caught dead in a Tesla, so it’s the BYD for me

[@YSA920]

Have driven both of these. The Tesla is a really sporty drive, very responsive. Back seat tight, no cables, no roof cover but you have the Tesla supercharger network and ecosystem. The Seal is very quiet but a bit softly sprung in the front. It has V2L which would be great to have, charge during the day, power your house at night. The Seal colour range is much nicer.

[@mravchinnikov]

I got BYD Seal with option pack cold here "Excellence", the top-spec with a 520km battery range and I love it❤❤❤❤🎉

[@RennieAsh]

Which is faster isn't really more important than other things for many people.

[@RemoteSpeed007]

Yup, like quality.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3rRhZSkfc-hgZI

[@Accuaro]

Tesla aint no have buttons, I love buttons and having everything on a touch screen kinda puts me off. EU will do something about it though

[@ibsn87]

Oh blackberry. One day you will understand.

[@buttert5091]

Tesla is regressive, not innovative when you remove indictor stalks, I would like the indictor stalks and a price bump

[@-PORK-CHOP-]

The numberplate on the Seal needs to be changed, it's not a good marketing image to have a numberplate that says CRAP, I have seen a few of them driving around with blinkers malfunctioning, flashing very fast or almost not at all, not a good sign of a quality vehicle to be having electrical faults so early.

[@selldivision]

When did the model 3 have a front camera??

[@Warekiwi]

It never had a front camera I NEVER (and neither did the other Tesla's until The Cybertruck)

[@RemoteSpeed007]

@@Warekiwi Model 3 has had a front camera since 2017 when they first made them, how do you think FSD sees the front of the car?

[@falkdroste9895]

I think in the first images it had one which was later removed from the pictures. People assumed it would come with a camera.

[@tyrone.dallas]

Any chance of a long range model 3 review - no-one has done one yet!

[@Maruchiru]

Tried both. I picked Tesla due to better charging network, and software included travel planning system.

[@fuzz7981]

I feel if you're planning to keep the car very long-term then the potential for noticeable wear on the seats and wheel would worry me on the Tesla. Real leather for the BYD might sway me....