2025 390 Adventure R (EICMA)

[@philliphawkes4039]

The GS450 is the other option , I will be considering one of these two bikes as my next purchase

[@RYwoodview]

Thus far, I am part of the 8% who will keep my 2023 390 Adv (got it new on sale in 2024). There's no difference cp. to the 2024. I am 6 feet tall and wouldn't want any taller a seat. I use it on backroads and will never hit really rough trails with it. I can add cruise if I wish or change wheels if I want to drop a lot more money. No thanks, I am very happy as is. (And of course, I've kitted it out perfectly and have named it.)

[@bobholley6202]

Bought a new 2024 701 enduro a while back but I’ll be looking forward to the 390 adv r for sure. Very interested!! Keep us posted!!!

[@RodKrisBisdakMotovlog]

Thats absolutely awesome and great one brother

[@OneOldManRiding]

Hello RodKris! - Frank

[@Gen-X.Adventures]

My dealer is posting that we will see them on the show floor in the spring of 2025 here in the US. I would really like to hear the actual specs for fuel capacity and weight. I can't wait to test ride!

[@advmatt]

I am holding out for the Tuareg 457. I can't help but think it will crush all the others in performance, features and price, just like the current Tuareg.

[@OneOldManRiding]

Hello Matt, I cannot disagree with you. Aprillia showed with the 660 that they were willing to spend the resources to make the best bike it's it's segment. If they build upon that success, nothing will touch the Tuareg 457. I do know that Aprillia needs more service centers though. I have one thirty min away, but I have friends in multiple states with 90+ minute trips to the closest one. - Frank

[@advmatt]

@OneOldManRiding yeah, dealership network is a problem. It keep buyers away. 2025 will tell me everything I need to know about Aprilia from continued Tuareg experience. Need to run up the hard mileage.

[@bradsanders6954]

The 660 hasnt really worked out like that, An Aprilia at resale time is like what? What kind a bike? The Tuareg had great hype but not as much years of hype as a T7. It hasnt crushed anything. Its pretty heavy and big for what it is.

[@advmatt]

@bradsanders6954 have you ridden one? It is a far superior ride to the T7. It weighs the same as the T7 and performs much better in its stock form. Tuareg owners are very satisfied. Best bike I have ever ridden and owned.

[@thevtadventure1062]

Yeah but will the electronics hold up over the years….they are notorious for the electrical gremlins

[@doc650adventures]

So far, it looks great! Hopefully it is produced as advertised

[@OneOldManRiding]

Hello William, as it was shown, it would be Hella pricey! I was disappointed they did not also show the bike stock, without all the extra / upgraded parts. - Frank

[@doc650adventures]

@ Ok was thinking the same on both. You made some great points in this video addressing what they previewed.

[@verbalwidget0919]

@@doc650adventures DOC650!!!!

[@davidz8]

All very good points well made, I think the 390 will be a great bike for taller riders over the 450MT, I would struggle at that seat height. I am very happy with my 450MT, the higher seat is all day riding comfortable and still allows me to get both feet on the floor. I think it is great that there will be so much more choice in this size of adventure bikes.

[@leudwigvonshwartsenhelm3624]

I will never buy a k t m again until I can be assured of their reliability. I don't know what that assurance looks like either. K t m is notorious for unreliability, and there unwillingness to address warranty issues.

[@PisgahGravelProject]

This new trend of 400-500cc capable mini adv bikes are becoming increasingly popular. Of all the offerings Ibex450, 390AR, HIMI450, Honda NX500 and the three bikes currently in development= Kawasaki KLE500, BMW450GS, and Aprilia450 I believe the 390AR might be the most attractive from a spec sheet standpoint and esthetics (subjective) Ownership is a different story though. With all these new bikes coming out, it's hard telling which bike will have the least amount of gremlins, recalls, parts availability and 1st year aftermarket support. Those are all important aspects of bike ownership, especially if the owner only.owms one bike, and wants to ride it. But from a spec sheet standpoint, this ktm390ar is, imo, the most aggressive looking, has lots of features the others lack, and it looks good too. It's interesting to see the trends in the market sway over the years. As riders age, many are closing the lighter options with 'just enough' power. It wasn't that long ago when the liter+ bikes were all the rage, then right after covid-the midsized market blew up, and now manufacturers are dumping millions into research and development of sub 500cc adv bikes. I think the only major manufacturers which do not produce a 450-500cc adv in development is Yamaha, and Suzuki- but I've heard rumors that the vstrom650 is going away and a small cc mini adv bike is taking its place by 2026. I know one thing is for sure, if it were me, and if my 2 choices were the 390ar or the cfmoto, I'd pick the KTM based solely on parts availability, dealer support and past experiences and interactions with real world owners, not just spec sheet buyers. There are many reports of guys who purchased cfmoto sxs and atvs and were disappointed to find the parts were cheap and inferior- but when they tried to replace said parts- no parts were avaliable. I'll be darned if I spend thousands on a bike, and siple things like seals, levers, air filter ls and brake pads are not avaliable. Those stories are out there. A little investigation is all it takes. I haven't heard of any problems like that with the motorcycles, but they just came to market and time will tell. I'm basing my choice solely on cfmotos proven business model on their sxs' and atvs. It is a bummer that it doesn't come with the Xplr, instead it's the whimpy 43mm apex suspension which lacks full adjustability. I've been keeping my eye on this 450-500cc market for a bike for my father who is almost 70.

[@tracey38999]

Hope you don’t have to pay a subscription fee for all those accessories. Seems like a new marketing scam.

[@OneOldManRiding]

Hello Tracey, you know... KTM charges for cruise control even though the hardware on one the 790/890. I would not be shocked if they charged for the 390 in the US! 😱 - Frank

[@soumitkumar318]

Wait what subscriptions for accessories ? Is that even legal?

[@HarshitKadpate]

Subscription fee!? For an accessory? I mean subscription for what service?

[@tracey38999]

A monthly payment to keep cruise control, traction control, riding modes if you don’t want them, don’t pay for them, but they can cut them off if you don’t. It’s a thing now!!!

[@martyn_g]

Also, I’d imagine in the production version, they’d be a more practical exhaust position. And I bet that seat is the traditional KTM 4x2 plank😂

[@manybikes]

It's a neat machine that checks a lot of boxes. I love how well my 2021 390 Adv eats highway miles. Much better than the 690 with the 21 / 18. I hope this new 390 can perform as well everywhere as the one we know and love.

[@OneOldManRiding]

Hello Kyle, I really feel they are missing out on a 390 Adventure direct replacement. Foreign markets will get the X with the 19/17, but It's stripped down on other areas. I straight up want the Advenure R with 19/17! - Frank

[@joelfogelman4156]

You might want to double check the seat height of 885mm as the 890r is 880, some sources say its 860mm similar to the last 390, lets hope so.

[@OneOldManRiding]

Hello Joel, I was shocked, but yep, all reports are 885 making it the tallest seat in ADV. Bizaare. Now I am hoping something was lost in translation... The Enduro R and Adventure R were both reported to be 885mm. Perhaps the Enduro R is 885 and the Adventure R can be lower. But probably not. 😳 Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank

[@paulvandervyver4223]

Not sure what the plan is with the low exhaust though?

[@sompobutama3761]

Nice info look forward for KTM 390 SMC R on market will definitely purchase one for sure.

[@kai-uweoch1159]

I am currently on a 4cm lowered 701 Enduro, which is 89cm high. Even that I am buying 30” jesns that height is no problem for me, as it is light and I am used to it. As long as the seat of the 390 is not too wide this will work for me. Another important spec we are missing is tank volume = range! Now if KTM had only not damaged it’s reputation for customer care by ignoring the cam shaft problem of the LC8c engines…

[@bradsanders6954]

Im one of those guys, who looks at a 390, no matter how wild and crazy it is...................and bought a lighter 690 enduro. So much fun with 70HP. "the KTM tubeless wheels leak, a lot".................not really. I dont hear that, and the internet attacks any KTM weakness like rabid wolves. If your a screw up when you change tires you can make the wheels leak.......................to say "1% will ride these bikes offroad"........I am sure the % is higher than that. I cant help but think that if the 390 was a somewhat mildly tuned 450? What could have been. World market has cc limitations. ........................................................................................................................ For the record my 21 890R has been 100% reliable and the funnest bike Ive owned, at 21,000 miles it runs better than new. 690 is the same. Zero issues.

[@mark.e.p]

Can't see it being competitive prise wise.

[@cconwayott]

I put my $500 down at the dealer here in Canada, they said they are getting 4, doesn't know when, doesn't know the price. But Im starting to think with KTM's financial problems that they wont be able to deliver in 2025, or in only very limited supply, or late in the year. Im about to put a deposit on a CF Moto to ensure I'm not without a bike in the spring. These bikes are all great by historical standards. By the way Im on my third EXC since 2008, Great bikes no major problems, same as my friends on their 2 strokers cough.

[@OneOldManRiding]

Hello, I tried the dealers near me, not willing to take money yet. I do not think any KTM woes will be an issue for this bike as it's a Bajaj product. It's an important bike for them, and it WILL get to market. Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank

[@mt1885]

I wish Suzuki/Honda would build a 350 dirt/street with a 6 speed really missing lot of metric bikes in this area. Also, Honda needs to have the white/blue/red colors on ADV bikes like in Europe.

[@thegan9143]

Not worried about seat height, more with the weight if I'm giving up the power of the 890. Also would prefer less tech in a bike that might see more off road.

[@elquemontabicicleta]

I see melted boots due to the position of the exhaust. I hope I'm wrong.

[@OneOldManRiding]

I think you are not wrong! Such an odd choice. Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank

[@twowheeladventures63]

Everyone keep talking about all the new 400-450cc bikes, but they seem really difficult to purchase/find in the USA. I believe the only one somewhat available is the Himalayan. Even if/when the 390 arrives, will it be available or will it be like the Tenere 700 a couple years ago?

[@adr2567]

Indian here - Just found out we're not going to get the pricing for 390 Adv R even here till Q1 25 - Basically EICMA bikes were just for display. I'm super pumped for the ADV 390 R, seat height does seem imposing but I think I can get used to it probably. Waiting and watching.

[@geekcycle9368]

Help me out here, I love the look of the bike, but that under-bike exhaust, does that concern anyone? Maybe I'm wrong, but that looks very much like a street configuration.

[@OneOldManRiding]

Hello Geek, its the #1 complaint on the FB group! You are not alone... Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank

[@geekcycle9368]

Love the channel, great videos, very relatable. I'm glad to hear that I'm not crazy (for this reason)! Interestingly enough, I've heard from UK/Europe riders that they think it will be fine because "KTM obviously tested it"...that one made me chuckle. -Justin

[@mmig2116]

Will this be available in USA

[@pepperthepep]

The most important missing information next to the price is the WEIGHT.

[@ParallelCamper]

Nice review. The bike looks good. But... I think I would go for the DRZ.

[@bradsanders6954]

Hard to beat 1998 technology on a DRZ, the new updates arent gonna make it run any stronger, nor will it have a 6th or 7th gear. Its euro/epa legal going forward. Solid choice.

[@ParallelCamper]

@@bradsanders6954 The DRZ does have its limitations as do all of the bikes in this class. The updates seem to be making a good bike better.

[@verbalwidget0919]

Had Suzuki made it a 450 with a 6 speed I’d be putting cash down on a new drz , but they didn’t so I won’t.

[@ParallelCamper]

@@verbalwidget0919 I'm really not looking for another bike now anyway. The DR and GSXS are not out much as it is. You are right about what Suzuki missed with the DRZ.

[@verbalwidget0919]

@@ParallelCamper Hi Rob, it's very hard for me to be a Suzuki fanboy in this day and age. My first motorcycle was a Suzuki 90 as was my first moto-x bike. I grew up in the 1970-80-90's when Suzuki strived for performance and innovation, it is hard for me to accept their "don't care" attitude and manufacture some of the oldest designed motorcycles on the planet. The fact that I can put together a USD fork assembly from a DRZ400SM directly onto a DR650 using only Suzuki parts shows how little innovation and consumer care they have. I love what they use to stand for, but I don't recognize what Suzuki has become. They have proven we don't listen, and we don't care.

[@אבישידוידי]

When will we adventure twin 490 or twin 590 something around 60-70 hp? (between 390 with 45 hp and 790 with 95 hp)

[@jpaulie2008]

Will be curious to see if the north american model keeps the cruise and what the price will be

[@OneOldManRiding]

Hello John, arguably, after perhaps Australia, CC is most needed in North America. I will be very interested to see if they charge extra to unlock it... But hey if Tim was not too cheap to pay for the unlock, I will not be either! 😜 - Frank

[@jpaulie2008]

@@OneOldManRiding I agree, cruise is much needed here, I know it ads cost, I too would be willing to pay for oem cruise on my next bike, but it needs to be an option.

[@thecorporategypsy]

Well done!

[@210078]

Is it coming to the US?

[@johnbrewer8882]

Likely 2026

[@OneOldManRiding]

Hello, as John said below, likely not until fall of 2025, as a 2026 model. Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank

[@OneOldManRiding]

The only positive of that John, is that all the farkles and upgrades should be out by the time North America gets the bike. Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank

[@5Aerim]

Looks super nice! But I still think the 450mt has a slight edge

[@orlandoberry4031]

Compression and rebound on the rear shock would have been good.

[@joshdoddadbod]

I do definitely want to see what the Kawasaki twin ends up being but this 390 adv R may very well bring me to team orange. It appears to be an amazing bike with some pretty amazing features.

[@TheRealGOAT6]

2:38 - If I have to buy an extra set of wheels in order to go tubeless, in addition to paying a huge premium for the KTM name, the CF Moto is looking more and more attractive.

[@Justen1980]

I haven't seen much about the Enduro R version, but it seems that the Adventure R will have most of the offroad features you'd expect for the enduro model, so I'm interested to see what else differentiates the enduro besides the body style.. I'm also interested in seeing this new Kawasaki KLE as well. It may steal some of KTM's thunder with a less expensive, less performing option.

[@notgamingwithmax]

It's definitely awesome with all the accessories but I'm guessing it's gonna be 8-9k with everything if not more. Looking forward to hear the price. That will determine if Royal Enfield gets my money or not.

[@motourge3061]

Wow, 2026 for US sales???? Well, I'll go forward with the CF Moto 450 Ibex then....

[@alwnz3250]

will enduro weight more than 690 enduro?

[@OneOldManRiding]

Hello, absolutely. A 690 was purpose built this Enduro is using a Duke 390 frame. And of the Advenure is close to 400#, it would likely be impossible to get to down to the 690 weight. Thank you for stopping by an commenting. - Frank

[@martyn_g]

I’m not sure why this exists. For a very long time they’ve had the unicorn in the stable - the 690. More power, more torque, better clutch, FAR lighter, and more travel - so if want to do more gnarly stuff on a 390, why don’t you buy a 690?!

[@ronlawson5819]

Yeah I’m interested in the Enduro 390R.

[@humdog64]

The new BMW 450GS is going to eat their lunch I think....

[@mick0160]

Seat height kill it for me at 5ft7.... It sucks big time.

[@papertiger795]

I'll take the current 390 with that new headlight assembly please. And cruise control. KTM can keep the 18/21 tubed spoked wheels and sky high seat height.

[@joelfogelman4156]

It's an offload bike, lol. Why would they sacrifice the 18/21. Everyone wants a more offroad capable 390.

[@papertiger795]

@joelfogelman4156 except me. Clearly. I want the current 390s capabilities and stature with a better looking headlight and cruise control. And does cruise control come in handy off-road?

[@saikatdey4311]

​@@papertiger795 In India, there is a possibility that they launch the new model with 19-17 cast alloy wheels and cruise control and call it the Adventure S. There will be another X model without the TFT and other fancy electronics.

[@virajvrooms]

Yikes. I am going to stick to my existing one. Never needed an off roader. Just a Sports Tourer with a better ground clearance because they don't build a Duke 390 GT.

[@RonOrud]

That adv R is sexy. I don’t think I will be able to get my wife to agree. Ha. She just doesn’t understand. Ha

[@OneOldManRiding]

Hello Ron, you have an entire year to convince her Ron. I am already creating a list of things I can do for the wife to get her warmed up for the cost! - Frank

[@OneOldManRiding]

Ron, could you let me know how the audio is for this video? New microphone and I am hoping I have the settings OK. Videos sound different on YT than the original file. - Frank

[@RonOrud]

The microphone sounds good but is a bit quiet. I had to turn it up fully to hear it sitting in my car at lunch. The sound otherwise is good

[@RonOrud]

​​@@OneOldManRidingi just told here i think i finally spent the last money i need to get the bike how i want it. I dont think she will like the idea of starting over. Ha. In eastern iowa near I80, we dont have much that my current 390 cant handle.

[@OneOldManRiding]

@@RonOrud Thank you very much Ron, I am struggling with volume. If I set the sound to what sounds OK when I record, its LOUD when editing. I am not sure if its OBS or Davinci. I need to ask a pro! - Frank

[@Warbeaver]

In Canada I'd like to see the Adventure S as an option to lower the cost, like India has.

[@Macronvargas]

My next bike 1000% for real...!!

[@OneOldManRiding]

Hello Macron, it looks like mine as well! I looked long and hard at the CFMoto, I mean I have a deposit on one! But if I bought one, I would sell it when the 390 R is released in North America! Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank

New 390 will be very expensive compared to the current model.

[@uzaygemisi1716]

tipik Türk

[@OneOldManRiding]

Hello, if it is, it's going to run too close to the price of the CFMoto 790, and the KTM 790 (Made by CFMoto). Unfortunately, we will not know for a very long time about NA prices. Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank

[@martinfretwell]

Go for the drz. This fancy show pony is no good without a warranty. Ktm warranty= 😂

[@josephgeorgeejr7039]

Well that's who will buy the ktm..people who money is no problem!

[@jeffgarner1448]

I want the adventure r ,if it proves to be reliable

[@dadge2500]

Plain and simple KTM is having problems! They both reached spread out too much. and her to say that their new engine might be played with some issues same going with their software I’ll be at nice looking bike. I don’t mind a seat. I’ve read dirt bikes, even if it comes out in 2026 a year or two after that, then all the bugs will probably be worked out. The curb green 90s are very capable.

[@MotoCampAdv]

Who is gonna purchase KTM ? The company is not doing well at all.

[@justinrice8509]

Too heavy...

[@markjacobs3956]

CFmoto finally made a KTM.