2025 Honda Accord Hybrid - Commuting with Honda's Fuel-sipping Flagship Sedan

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Kirk Kreifels

Kirk Kreifels

Күн бұрын

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@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
Two Updates on the Accord Hybrid: 1 - Battery guage is always up on the far left of the MID. I dismissed it as engine temp for a week, then realized it’s the hybrid battery guage haha. 2 - I didn’t have to run the AC this morning. The engine didn’t have run as much and the car would coast in EV up to around 50 MPH. As a result I saw 52+ MPG
@jeretso
@jeretso Ай бұрын
Road noise hurts my ears. 19 inch rims sounds noisy. I prefer the base rims . Quiet is luxury.
@bacoth41
@bacoth41 Ай бұрын
@@jeretsowe have the touring hybrid with 19 inch wheels and double pane glass. It is actually quite quiet-while 18 inch may be quiet the 19 is fine.
@jeretso
@jeretso Ай бұрын
@@bacoth41 Sounds good thanks
@matthewweber1832
@matthewweber1832 Ай бұрын
Kirk, thanks for another informative video! I know the Camry is and always has been the Accord’s main rival, but what about the Sonata, which was heavily refreshed for 2024? For your money, would you get an Accord Hybrid Touring (fully loaded) or a Sonata Hybrid Limited (fully loaded), and why?
@redcapote4760
@redcapote4760 Ай бұрын
I owned a 2020 Accord LX. I then test drove a 2024 Accord EX-L Hybrid. My reaction was wow, it was smoother, quieter, and even more fuel efficient. The resale value on my 2020 Accord LX was awesome, and this thing was even better. I ended up getting a 2024 Pilot, because I wanted an SUV more than I wanted to make the smartest choice, but the Accord Hybrids are a very, very smart choice for your wallet. When I see my mpg's on the Pilot, I miss the heck out of my Accord that got 38 mpg highway at 80 mph, but there was some upcoming need for an SUV in my life, so I went with it. For $33k on the EX-L Hybrid, you are getting a LOT of car for the money.
@ZACH_95_
@ZACH_95_ Ай бұрын
Enjoy that smooth v6!
@clintanthony3777
@clintanthony3777 23 күн бұрын
I have a 2020 myself thinking about getting this new one
@MrNodeee
@MrNodeee 21 күн бұрын
That sums it up pretty well. I think it is one of the best buys out there right now.
@Jazz16-we1qc
@Jazz16-we1qc 7 күн бұрын
If longterm reliability is your priority, the Camry Hybrid is a smarter choice by a mile. Lots more things to wear out and break on the Accord Hybrid, and it's not proven like the Camry is. But many people don't keep their cars that long and don't care.
@redcapote4760
@redcapote4760 6 күн бұрын
@@Jazz16-we1qc Do you have anything to justify these claims? Honda has been doing hybrids for a long while, how can you say the Honda isn't proven and the Toyota is?
@Splashman24
@Splashman24 Ай бұрын
The reason the engine is on more frequently is because you are continually driving in Sport mode. In both Econ and Normal, the engine will run much less. I drive in Econ 100 of the time and have no trouble accelerating and average slightly above 50mpg with the 23 Touring. Also,the battery charge is always on the far left. You can game the hybrid system when in the other modes as you can pulse and glide and other ways to maximize your time in EV mode. I'm in Tampa and consistently achieve the 50 mpg with AC running in Econ mode.
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
Thanks! I drove in normal mode and it did like to coast in EV up to around 45mph. However the gas pedal is so dull in normal and eco that you have to floor it to move the car haha.
@jonm3255
@jonm3255 Ай бұрын
We had a Camry as a rental for a week and liked it a lot, high 40's mileage around Portland and even up and down Mt Hood. Then test drove an Accord Touring and liked it better for comfort and interior materials, build quality and stereo (was not a JBL in the Camry and was Bose in Accord). Not enough time to do a mileage test. Then test drove the Civic hybrid hatch Sport Touring and ended up getting it. Road noise is more than Accord but acceleration, sporty dynamics, mpg, and utility of the hatch won out. Also the Civic feels like you sit higher in the vehicle, and you look out over the dash. The Accord you feel like you're down in the vehicle, looking at the dash. The lower cost of the Civic was another benefit. Honestly I am finding the Civic seat bottoms a little on the hard side, but overall happy with the choice. Suburban driving is bouncing around 50 mpg in Ohio temperatures so that is living up to my expectations.
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
Yes you can sit really low in the Accord. I like that personally. The Civic hybrid is way more fun to drive than the Accord hybrid. Good choice.
@aznopolis
@aznopolis Ай бұрын
what is your opinion comparing the camry hybrid and the civic hybrid sport touring?
@ytj22
@ytj22 Ай бұрын
Which grade of Camry did you drive?
@ciello___8307
@ciello___8307 Ай бұрын
@@aznopoliscamrys is more comfortable but the civic drives sportier and has the hatchback utility. Just depends on what you want. Both are good cars
@Kevin-d3z
@Kevin-d3z 29 күн бұрын
Yes bottom seat in my 23 civic is horrible. Rock hard and uncomfortable.
@a32tl
@a32tl Ай бұрын
My dad just got a ‘25 Accord Hybrid Touring. He loves it! I’ve driven it a few times and I am very impressed with it. It really is a nice car, despite its not so beautiful front end.
@matrix8043
@matrix8043 Ай бұрын
They just need to make front end more aggressive the rest of the car is good
@a32tl
@a32tl Ай бұрын
@@matrix8043 I agree. And they probably will update it on the '26 model, since that will be the mid cycle refresh.
@shaun5047
@shaun5047 Ай бұрын
I’m looking at the same exact year and model. Only been to two dealerships so far but they only had one 2024 no 2025. If you don’t mind asking him, can you ask what kind of warranty he got? This will be my 1st “brand new” car that’s also a hybrid so I plan on getting a warranty. About 10 years ago a dealer at Toyota literally added on a $2,300 warranty without my permission. I’m not sure if it was a good warranty or not but I ended up making him remove it because of how shady he went about the whole thing.
@a32tl
@a32tl Ай бұрын
@@shaun5047 He has been retired for a while and honestly, doesn’t drive more than about 6k or 7k miles per year. We did not buy an extended warranty. So for now, it’s just the factory warranty. The battery is warranted for 8 years or 100k miles. Bumper to bumper is 3 years/36k miles. Powertrain is somewhere in between.
@shaun5047
@shaun5047 Ай бұрын
@ sorry what exactly is a “factory warranty”? If something goes wrong with the engine in the next 3 years will this warranty cover it? Normally for Hondas I wouldn’t really care for a warranty because they’re fairly easy to fix but I assume it’s going be much different for a hybrid. lol There’s an awesome “mom & pop” auto shop that I’ve used for years but I doubt they’ll be able to work on this upcoming car. Btw Thank You for the reply.
@jeretso
@jeretso Ай бұрын
Ventilated Seat button is heavenly. Even in the winter wearing thick jackets the ventilation would be nice.
@nick4410
@nick4410 Ай бұрын
Yeah you touched on my biggest issue with the newer Accords, which is how they split the trims up. I really think the accord would benefit from a cheaper, more base-level hybrid that focuses a bit more on fuel economy and/comfort. Also AWD. Delegating the hybrids exclusively to their top trims with the bigger wheels and everything just isn’t all that appealing with the competition offering better packages for the same or less money. Aside from that though it does really seem like a great car. I’m keeping my eye out for quieter, smoother sedans with better MPG than my current rough & noisy old ass Accord. I’ve been cross shopping used Avalons, ES, Camry, Accord etc and this new a accord is definitely a contender
@realtalk5931
@realtalk5931 Ай бұрын
I think if you’re patient you’ll find great discounts. Everybody is buying the crv and civic. Crv’s are flying off the lots here in Canada.
@Saturdayz_In_The_Fall
@Saturdayz_In_The_Fall Ай бұрын
Hi Kirk! You’ve been one of my go to Honda reviewers. Nice to see you still going strong!
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
Thanks mate!
@TSteel34
@TSteel34 Ай бұрын
This Accord platform is a lot more appealing to me vs the Toyota hybrids. Like you said, refinement has value for some people over pure efficiency. I plan to upgrade from my 2015 Crosstour in a few years and in a dream world, they'd build a new Crosstour based on the current Accord, add the rear axle motor for AWD, and maybe bump power output slightly. Then they'd have a clear competitor to the Crown Signia. I just can't see myself dealing with the obnoxiously loud 4th gen Toyota hybrid system for a decade...
@Boone-ng7uw
@Boone-ng7uw Ай бұрын
Absolutely LOVE my 23’ touring
@will_in_texas
@will_in_texas Ай бұрын
Not having a spare is a little concerning. If your tire blows out and you can’t fix the tire with the inflation kit you’re stranded if you in the middle of nowhere.
@chrissetina1107
@chrissetina1107 Ай бұрын
Yep, You'd have to purchase one and try to make it fit. I wonder if there's even a jack in these anymore.
@theantiqueactionfigure
@theantiqueactionfigure Ай бұрын
No spare is a deal breaker, but then my first car came with a crank starter, Lol!😂
@ytj22
@ytj22 Ай бұрын
Most of the major manufacturers offer roadside assistance for the duration of the comprehensive warranty, that'll buy you some time.
@kceeman
@kceeman Ай бұрын
I have a 2024 Honda accord sport hybrid L. Honda swindled me to get the tire package. I ran over an accident site and caught a nail in the tire. I got a patch put in the tire because my local Honda dealership could not make an appointment for me until the end of the week. Well that decision basically canceled out getting a new tire because the tire essentially was fixed. So Honda wouldn’t fix it. So the lesson here is if you have a tire that is leaking air. Don’t patch it up…. (Which is ridiculous)
@karcrazy3866
@karcrazy3866 Ай бұрын
For the right $$$, the Honda Parts counter can put together a spare tire “kit” that has all the OEM spare tire elements of the non-hybrid and it fits perfectly under the hybrid trunk floor. I wish it came standard, but happy that the option is there for peace of mind.
@koven1497
@koven1497 17 күн бұрын
I do agree with you that the Accord is far more refined. I just wish they’d fix some grill issues, provide more power, change up the interior a little, etc. The CRV could use a major refresh to offer more for the price as well.
@sergiocastro5464
@sergiocastro5464 Ай бұрын
He meant you did not really brake torque it . After you release brakes engine keeps 100% without fake shifting that's adds time to acceleration. I have a 2023 touring hybrid and gets bellow 7s is very easy with Ac on. Thank you for the review and I endorsed every word you said about the smoothness of this power train
@terrancecloverfield6791
@terrancecloverfield6791 Ай бұрын
13:49 This is the important part that seperates Honda from Toyota. To where it really is a matter of what one prefers. Honda uses clutch packs but Toyota has a direct linkage (i.e MG1+MG2). Toyota is more responsive but it's jerkier. Honda may not feel as powerful but is definitely smoother.
@DukeTrinh-j4k
@DukeTrinh-j4k 13 сағат бұрын
The jerkier response also happened with the 2020 models. When I test drove both Toyota and Honda hybrid models. The Honda was much smoother, especially with the regenerative braking.
@mrnarason
@mrnarason Ай бұрын
I just want a hrv hybrid
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
Absolutely...it might crush the ADX though
@Blank00
@Blank00 Ай бұрын
That’s what the Civic Hatch Hybrid is for
@jeretso
@jeretso Ай бұрын
Civic Hatch looks amazing
@mrnarason
@mrnarason Ай бұрын
@@Blank00 I want a higher seating position, hence the crossover
@JulD.9032
@JulD.9032 Ай бұрын
Defo a better interior w the light tan leather than dark all around. Great video so far. Thanks Kirk! Gotta finish it 😊
@JulD.9032
@JulD.9032 Ай бұрын
Thanks for reviewing the latest model year Accord & picking top trim. I do agree this HEV powertrain does feel like a luxury car. Zen interior for sure as well, which Honda's designers were going for
@Tashketskiy
@Tashketskiy Ай бұрын
I will keep my 2.0T 10th accord forever
@briancorreia2923
@briancorreia2923 Ай бұрын
Camry LE has cast aluminum wheels now. Doesn’t it?
@justincredible1990
@justincredible1990 Ай бұрын
Wow you're a Breaking Benjamin fan too. Very nice!
@kencai6803
@kencai6803 Ай бұрын
I think the real reason that makes people feel ugly is because of the front lip design. In terms of overall design this new Accord is actually good. But the current design just like if a person missing a jaw, you would just feel is missing something. Funny thing is the GAC Honda in China have released a new front bumper design of this Accord just a few days ago, the current one is so ugly they requested Honda HQ to get a new design of it lol
@ZACH_95_
@ZACH_95_ Ай бұрын
Most people I know who have one love the way they look!
@CUBICUB
@CUBICUB Ай бұрын
Great thorough review
@tomhockman6267
@tomhockman6267 Ай бұрын
I LOVE my 23 EX-L. Drives like a dream and gets 50+ mpg in the summer months. The Touring is just too expensive for the sake of a high-end stereo, HUD and heated steering wheel.
@leechin5890
@leechin5890 24 күн бұрын
Hi are they good for 100+ round trip daily commute? I heard from somewhere hybrid is more designed for shorter commute. Thanks
@47crazed
@47crazed Ай бұрын
I love my 23 EXL. it's a good upgrade from the 2018 Accord😊
@briancorreia2923
@briancorreia2923 Ай бұрын
If you would have “torque-braked” your zero to 60 you wouldn’t have gotten simulated shifts and probably would have accelerated a bit faster.
@Jazz16-we1qc
@Jazz16-we1qc 7 күн бұрын
The Accord has always been a highway star. It just handles better than the Camry. But I like the instant power of the Camry and its softer suspension. I got tired of driving Accords and getting rattled all over the place from harsh roads. My 1.5T Accord had oil dilution. And my 6-speed manual Accord before that was never the same after I changed the clutch fluid. The Camry wins by a mile on fuel economy, reliability, suspension comfort, responsiveness to pedal inputs. The Accord should have a trim level where it has 16" wheels and a soft suspension. But the in the Camry you CAN feel the engine going on and off all the time. When the engine kicks on, you feel a slight jiggle.
@edr4973
@edr4973 Ай бұрын
The complaint about a second delay is similar to the same delay that popular 4-cylinder turbos that Honda/Acura have. I have an Acura and always have to anticipate that turbo lag when I need to step on it.
@Jazz16-we1qc
@Jazz16-we1qc 28 күн бұрын
The big reason to go from the 1.5T Accord to a Hybrid version is so you have immediate throttle response, immediate power when you need it. And sounds like you get delay instead. I'm going with the Camry LE. And I actually like the Camry's engine sound. I like how the engine is always kicking on. I want a HYBRID (engine and battery both propelling the car). Sounds like the Accord is stuck between a hybrid and an EV.
@haochen5973
@haochen5973 Ай бұрын
I have a 2024 accord hybrid touring. 5k off. Excellent daily.
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
Good buy at 5k discount!
@wenjiehe8305
@wenjiehe8305 Күн бұрын
That's a great buy.
@ilyaberezin7944
@ilyaberezin7944 Ай бұрын
What kind of gasoline did you use? 91?
@DesertTourtouse
@DesertTourtouse Ай бұрын
Howz the stereo?
@StevenBanks123
@StevenBanks123 Ай бұрын
On sunroofs. Is it a 50/50 split on fans vs. those of us who have no use for them?
@Jazz16-we1qc
@Jazz16-we1qc 28 күн бұрын
The big reason to go from the 1.5T Accord to a Hybrid version is so you have immediate throttle response, immediate power when you need it. And sounds like you get delay instead. I'm going with the Camry LE. And I actually like the Camry's engine sound. I like how the engine is always kicking on. I want a HYBRID (engine and battery both propelling the car). Sounds like the Accord is stuck between a hybrid and an EV.
@Monk7uvi
@Monk7uvi Ай бұрын
Accord has to offer big incentives/ discount. because Camry is so good & k5 , Sonata on close competition available here.
@larrybowers8323
@larrybowers8323 Ай бұрын
Coincidentally I was debating all three. I ended up with the K5, I think it wins on looks and price. I also believe it does the two-display the best. AWD is expected at this point in time and Honda wouldn't deliver it. I think interior is beautiful in the Honda, but maybe a pain to keep clean, the K5 has mostly matte surfaces, with some piano black accents. Overall I think all three are good in their own different ways. Best advice is to drive all three and see which one gets you to say yes.
@scdbrown
@scdbrown Ай бұрын
Lots of 24 ex-l ‘s on dealer lots and discounted..could probably get one for 31 ish..so, 24 accord exl for 31k or 25 Camry xle for 36k?
@jackr6896
@jackr6896 Ай бұрын
Why not use the engine hood prop rod on the left side of the engine bay?
@road2sweaty211
@road2sweaty211 28 күн бұрын
What would be a good out the door price for an exl?
@talat804
@talat804 Ай бұрын
I really wish they would make a elite version and put all the Chinese options in
@AH-bm4ts
@AH-bm4ts Ай бұрын
sounds like a future TLX hopefully.
@talat804
@talat804 Ай бұрын
I think it's going to be like the rlx​@@AH-bm4ts
@deko29
@deko29 Ай бұрын
Thanks for putting a camera in the instrument cluster. I always want to see that and no one else shows it!
@thejoyofrolling
@thejoyofrolling 12 күн бұрын
30:00 you can see the charge of the battery all the way to the left of the dash. Yes the bars dont fill up green on the little car powerflow but you can glance to your left and "see the state of the battery charge" and still see the power flow on the dash. Thank me later
@DavidBrianClark
@DavidBrianClark Ай бұрын
No comparison Accord vs. Camry. Camry is more plastic and rougher ride. Lower quality. I have had a 2018 Accord with 246000 miles with no issues. Will be buying the 2025 Accord.
@You-All-Pokai
@You-All-Pokai Ай бұрын
But Honda reliability went down !
@iftekeruddin7116
@iftekeruddin7116 Ай бұрын
Which one you preferred overall Camry or accord for refined and gas mileage Kirk ?
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
Camry for MPG and engine performance. Accord for quiet and smoothness. Both are amazing but Camry looks better and is less money
@kceeman
@kceeman Ай бұрын
Great deals on the accords in the USA. Seems like nobody wants them (which is a mistake. Drive one and you will see). I got a great deal on my hybrid sport L
@garrettsteele7114
@garrettsteele7114 8 күн бұрын
Wait that was 75 going towards Estero that's crazy, I knew it looked familiar. I get off on that exit to Corkscrew like everyday after work
@ledebuhr1
@ledebuhr1 Ай бұрын
Kirk, Are you going to the LA auto show? If you do, can you ask a Honda Rep if they have any plans to Hybridize their large platform vehicles? A powertrain like this one would sell like crazy in the Pilot and Odyssey.( just a bit more power)
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
Nope not going to LA auto show. But I tell them when I see them 5x a year that we want hybrids in their larger models.
@ledebuhr1
@ledebuhr1 Ай бұрын
@@KirkKreifels And their answer is???
@Alex-rl3mj
@Alex-rl3mj 4 күн бұрын
@@KirkKreifels Please, tell them to stop putting low profile tires on the cheaper versions of all their cars.
@justincredible1990
@justincredible1990 Ай бұрын
Wait, why are you getting more MPG in the city than on the highway? Shouldn't it be the other way around?
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
Not with Honda hybrids.
@marcinmerrimack1726
@marcinmerrimack1726 Ай бұрын
Not with hybrids in general.
@justincredible1990
@justincredible1990 Ай бұрын
@@KirkKreifels Oh that's interesting.
@richh7608
@richh7608 Ай бұрын
Not with hybrids. Unlike ICE engines with hybrids you can recover some energy during braking (regen) to charge the battery for more range. That doesn't happen at steady highway driving.
@justincredible1990
@justincredible1990 Ай бұрын
@richh7608 Oh yeah duh lol. That makes sense. Dunno why I didn't think of that lol. Thanks.
@doxydoxdelamanca9902
@doxydoxdelamanca9902 Ай бұрын
Love that color and the interior! And @2:38, is that a tear I see on the upper rad hose?
@ytj22
@ytj22 Ай бұрын
Eagle eyes! I zoomed in 7x in 4k, hard to say that it's not a tear.
@MyThemeParkFanatic
@MyThemeParkFanatic 3 күн бұрын
In all honesty, this car should be at least, bare minimum, 5.5 -6 sec to 60.. there’s no excuse for it not being. Honda’s touring accords always have hovered around that benchmark.. it’s just mind boggling that for $40k you’re getting middle 7’s. I’ve owned the 2023 model and it’s crazy smooth and quiet, despite some rattling noises from plastic pieces in the cabin, it’s a good car.. just underpowered for sure. 👍
@bigd90909
@bigd90909 Ай бұрын
Breaking Ben playlist ftw @KirtKreifels did you miss the concert due to the hurricane? My show in WPB was rescheduled for May.
@Addy-pf9hb
@Addy-pf9hb Ай бұрын
I got 3,500$ off msrp off an ex-l with a 2.9 rate. I would’ve wanted the Camry since my partner owns a Toyota hybrid. But discount wasn’t an aggressive and had a 4.9 Apr.
@chrissetina1107
@chrissetina1107 Ай бұрын
Good review. You answered a couple questions I had wondered about, such as highway power and real world fuel economy. Any feeling how this would do in extremely cold weather of the northern plains? Would the engine run constantly even in city driving, and can its clutch even connect the engine if needed at lower speeds? I still can't believe its already the 3rd model year for this gen Accord. With an SE package already showing up and discounted pricing, this doesn't bode well for 3rd thru 5th year sales. I thought Honda would have corrected the mistakes faster than they have: still too-black and decontented interior for their flagship, color choices (inside and out), and the blandness of the exterior - which is maybe as simple as a fog lights option and some body color painted trim at the bottom lip.
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
It would suffer mpg in cold climates probably 20-30% mpg worse. Engine can only assist directly to the wheels at highway speeds 55+ I'd say
@hjlnbi
@hjlnbi Ай бұрын
@@KirkKreifels What about very hot weather? Does the engine run all the time and consume fuel?
@JakeDrives1
@JakeDrives1 Ай бұрын
I love this car. I have a 70k Volvo xc60 that I lease, I’m happily considering the accord to replace it. No 360 cam is such a shoddy omission for Honda on both Accord and Odyssey. Huge fail in that regard.
@Simon-kz4dv
@Simon-kz4dv Ай бұрын
Why leasing a XC 60, it is such a good vehicle to keep forever.
@JakeDrives1
@JakeDrives1 Ай бұрын
@@Simon-kz4dvSPA Volvos are complex and not a good long term play. Mine has air suspension and supercharged engine. Too much complexity for a long term buy. The non supercharged powertrains are known to be reliable. If I was going to buy one, I’d get one with less options.
@tomhockman6267
@tomhockman6267 20 күн бұрын
Just got a geat deal on an Accord Touring of $3500 off list price. They were really eager to push all the 24's out the door. Now's the time to deal.
@Ozzy_08x
@Ozzy_08x Ай бұрын
How does Honda’s Hybrid system compares to Nissan’s e-POWER?
@pharag4886
@pharag4886 16 күн бұрын
Can someone tell me why Honda does not have a HUD in their cars? It is the best feature in my Hyundai and now, I will never buy a car without one.
@juanosorio3278
@juanosorio3278 Ай бұрын
When will u do the civic hybrid ?
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
Soon I hope
@Dongzzzzzz
@Dongzzzzzz Ай бұрын
They only made the rear ac vents standard just now?? Their cheapest sedans sold elsewhere had those at their base lol
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Ай бұрын
Kirk, In these days of ruthless competition, it is very generous of Honda to stay away from offering AWD with the Accord and Civic hybrids. That way the Camry and Corolla Hybrids can still eke out a few sales and continue their struggle for survival . 😉
@johntrevett2944
@johntrevett2944 Ай бұрын
Toyota "struggling for survival" is a very ignorant statement.
@Hello123-b7l
@Hello123-b7l Ай бұрын
@@johntrevett2944 it's obviously a joke
@fredjemal3689
@fredjemal3689 Ай бұрын
Most AWD sedans are overrated. For the vast majority of driving conditions , front wheel drive is more than ideal.
@socalbadger1
@socalbadger1 Ай бұрын
@@fredjemal3689 Try having that debate with people living in snowy and icy conditions. It makes a huge difference starting from stopped position, going uphill, etc. Tires matter but awd prevents unpredictable slippage and getting stuck in snow.
@Simon-kz4dv
@Simon-kz4dv Ай бұрын
@@socalbadger1 Yes, then, accord might not be the best option, TLX is.
@courtneypuzzo2502
@courtneypuzzo2502 Ай бұрын
Japanese cars have always been more fuel efficient than European/American cars due to the fact that Japan has to import most of its oil also a Japanese car is generally lighter than an American car for ex a 1992 Honda Accord EX is 2923 LBs while an Oldsmobile Cutlass Calais is 3,047 LBs and there's several ins length difference an accord at the time was 185-187 in long while the Olds Calais was 194 in 16 1/5 ft long granted the Cutlass had gotten smaller in 1977 and 1985 as most American cars did and eventually transitioned to front wheel drive and finished production July 2nd 1999
@brandononbrand
@brandononbrand Ай бұрын
if Honda won't put the hybrid in the Acuras, then they need to make Honda Hybrids that are more "premium"... The Civic hybrid is a travesty, since it lacks lumbar, rear air vents, rear USB-C ports, etc... It's gimped as if Honda/Acura offers a "premium" alternative, when they don't!
@El_Tuercas
@El_Tuercas Ай бұрын
The more premium Honda hybrid is the accord touring HEV.
@brandononbrand
@brandononbrand Ай бұрын
@ I know that’s what they’d say, but I want a more compact option… not a barge like the Accord has become. And, even still, the Accord is kind of gimped as well. Not “premium” enough.
@El_Tuercas
@El_Tuercas Ай бұрын
@@brandononbrand I don’t know if compact and premium go together. The larger cabin space and cargo space are of course better. The civic and the accord are also like 30 cm in length difference. And also, what is the accord missing to be premium?
@stillwaters4097
@stillwaters4097 Ай бұрын
I think Honda lost its way especially with the Accord. The last generation was more appealing especially the exterior and rims. The newest iteration is so bland and plain that it blends in with everything else on the road. At first glance it looks like a Nissan Altima which is not doing it any favors. They also got rid of the 2.0 turbo which is still highly slough after today. With that said the interior is an improvement.
@BowlerActuary
@BowlerActuary Ай бұрын
Failure by Breaking Benjamin is a big up
@jackhglass
@jackhglass Ай бұрын
im not sure why your 0-60 was so low, if you break torque and turn off traction control you can easily get 6.5 sec 0-60. car and driver also got 6.5 sec when they tested the honda accord hybrid
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
True but who is actually brake torquing at the stoplight?
@matrix8043
@matrix8043 Ай бұрын
​@KirkKreifels I have honda accord sport hybrid 2023 and never brake torqued my car and i am not big fun of that l never check my 0-60 time but I think it's 6.8 to 7.0 sec I wish my car has those new features from 2025 model or at least ac vents and usb c ports for the back seats and more aggressive front end of the car I have around 14250 miles on my car and my average is now around 44 mpg
@Megdan1111
@Megdan1111 Ай бұрын
I would take this over crv ...crv hybrid had to much tire noise when i test drove.
@pkf1guy
@pkf1guy Ай бұрын
I’m at 26,000 on my ‘23 EX-L it’s the best value trim in my opinion. 50mpg lifetime with 1,500 mile/month commuting. 0 quality issues with my car. Styling is ‘controversial’ yes, cars are not investments, you use them up and then go on to the next one eh!?
@pkf1guy
@pkf1guy Ай бұрын
Add a 17” Honda donut and jack kit and ditch the inflator kit, cost me $150. Note has to be 17” since the hybrid front discs are larger, Honda dealer had no clue.
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
EX-L is a sweet spot for sure.
@abdullahbinshahid3199
@abdullahbinshahid3199 Ай бұрын
Note if you brake torque it, it won't "shift" and keep the power to 100%, that really helps the 0-60 figures
@SIIKAP1
@SIIKAP1 Ай бұрын
is that bad for the car?
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
Yeah but real world was tested here.
@abdullahbinshahid3199
@abdullahbinshahid3199 Ай бұрын
@@SIIKAP1 not really, modern transmissions are good. It might cause accelerated wear in something like a manual or a dual clutch, but regular autos should be fine. This car is not affected by this at all since the motor is driving the wheels directly, there's no coupling or clutching between the drive motor and the wheels.
@ilikenoodles5018
@ilikenoodles5018 Ай бұрын
Hope you do sonata 2024 hybrid mpg next. Will determine if I want to buy it or not. Thanks
@Sossaup
@Sossaup Ай бұрын
And believe it or not the Honda hybrid power train is similar to the Koenigsegg regera
@Mylifeislegendary982vd3-vI
@Mylifeislegendary982vd3-vI Ай бұрын
Camry is the king and class leader of mid size sedans 👑🤴👑. Only other rivals Worth talking is the K5 and sonata.
@Blank00
@Blank00 Ай бұрын
Accord > Sonata > K5
@jackhglass
@jackhglass Ай бұрын
k5 is slow and sonata hybrid engine is unrefined and slow aswell so the camry and accord are best
@hossman3000
@hossman3000 Ай бұрын
Hyundai Kia are cheaply made Honda is the superior import car
@kcav1255
@kcav1255 Ай бұрын
Why is your video getting bombarded with comments from happy, positive bots?
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
Because I don't have time for angry, negative bots.
@sun0066
@sun0066 Ай бұрын
Honda CRV the auto brake hold remains on at all times yo do not have to reaplly I would like to know if it the same in honda civic 2025
@ljpr360
@ljpr360 Ай бұрын
I still don't like how they cheaped out on the interior. I HATE that they made the rear headrests cheap stitched in ones that do nothing to protect the rear passengers from whiplash. Also when folding the rears I like to be able to remove the headrests for more space. Prologue isn't a Honda, I don't care what the badge says it's a General Mistake.
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
Yes... The rear head rests that are formed into the seat is a cheap step too far
@netomilt
@netomilt 8 күн бұрын
I would have gotten a new Camry, but the Honda dealer essentially saved me 5k in incentives and a higher trade in value for getting the Accord Hybrid Touring vs the XSE AWD. The Toyota dealer wouldn't budge at all. Their loss. Money is definitely a factor, and my wallet won over what my eyes wanted. It's the ugliest Accord ever but also the most refined.
@stephenwierzbicki4463
@stephenwierzbicki4463 Ай бұрын
Kirk, Off Topic, I Want to See a New HR-V Hybrid FWD/AWD vehicle 😊. [ IF possible ]😮🇺🇸🇨🇦
@brenttitus2134
@brenttitus2134 18 күн бұрын
The Camry does not have better performance. The Accord is quicker. C&D got 6.4 with the Accord. You are doing it wrong for the 0-60 test. Traction control off and brake torque. You would have hit the 6.4 The Camry got 6.8 0-60.
@Blank00
@Blank00 Ай бұрын
NPCs aren’t the drivers of this Accord. The real NPCs are the ones who do not even consider the Accord because apparently to them, the bland exterior matters more than an interior with superb ergonomics and a refined and comfortable driving experience. And to those who say it’s because Honda got rid of the 2.0T, guess what? Toyota got rid of the V6 Camry and they are not replacing that with a 2.4t or a hybrid Max.
@kenj.8897
@kenj.8897 14 күн бұрын
Why are you so mad ?
@rkgsd
@rkgsd 6 сағат бұрын
Honestly regarding the quirks is good, but certain things can't be sugar-coated such as the hesitation when the accelerator is smashed. As far as the exterior styling, it's an epic failure. Hard to believe the Honda execs approved the design.
@LeoTheShortGuy
@LeoTheShortGuy Ай бұрын
Cool
@robb8773
@robb8773 Ай бұрын
Omg, 7.7 sec for 0-60. My Touring V6 does it in under 6 sec. Honda's have no balls anymore!
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
No balls is right.
@fredjemal3689
@fredjemal3689 Ай бұрын
I have an Integra Aspec Tech that’s a bit quicker than this and I don’t feel it needs more power. . Although I would welcome a power boost if it doesn’t cause too much decreased MPG.
@fredjemal3689
@fredjemal3689 Ай бұрын
6.5 is pretty quick for such a large car. Looks closer to a large sedan vs a midsize.
@fredjemal3689
@fredjemal3689 Ай бұрын
The exterior looks quite sophisticated for a mainstream midsize sedan . While the front end is conservative the side profile has a luxury like appearance . It looks similar to a Caddy CT-6 from the side. The rear lights is an improvement over the last gen’s stapler lights (< >). The interior is simple and handsome. Dealers are now offering discounts so It’s a much better deal now than last year.
@nissanhonda25
@nissanhonda25 Ай бұрын
the exterior looks like a chevy malibu
@fredjemal3689
@fredjemal3689 Ай бұрын
What angle of the Malibu resembles the Accord? The front , rear and side profile are very different.
@michaelnash2972
@michaelnash2972 Ай бұрын
@@nissanhonda25Where do you see Chevy Malibu. I see more Audi A5/A7 Sportback in it.
@nissanhonda25
@nissanhonda25 Ай бұрын
@ ford mustang front and chevy impala side and yes they stole audi a7 rear
@fredjemal3689
@fredjemal3689 Ай бұрын
I see what your saying as well.
@ToyotaChrisWI
@ToyotaChrisWI Ай бұрын
Since my 2014 Avalon hybrid, I’ve used the simulated gears as regen. Same thing, different naming. 😊 Also, I’m wondering if a spouse getting into the car the next day will wonder what is going on with the brake hold. All about perspective.
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
Brake hold memory should be tied to the memory seats and also an toggle option in the menus
@aseenontv1027
@aseenontv1027 Ай бұрын
Keep in mind brand new car with less than 1000 mile will perform poorer in their fuel economy numbers. My accord did considerably worse when I first got it, now I can easily achieve close to EPA numbers
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
well-said
@Fadic4
@Fadic4 4 күн бұрын
The Accord is actually quicker than the Camry. Car and Driver did instrumented acceleration testing and the Accord is quicker than the Camry in most metrics, including 0-60. You need to look at the torque the electric motor produces, that’s what does 100% of the propulsion at most speeds. Honda really needs to add AWD though.
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels 4 күн бұрын
Yes it's quicker from a stop.
@Fadic4
@Fadic4 4 күн бұрын
@@KirkKreifels Not just from a stop, also passing speeds, 30-50 mph and 50-70 mph. 2025 Camry XSE AWD Versus Accord Sport Touring. Accord: 60 mph: 6.5 sec 1/4-Mile: 15.2 sec @ 91 mph 100 mph: 19.2 sec 120 mph: 41.1 sec Rolling Start, 5-60 mph: 7.4 sec, 30-50 mph: 3.4 sec 50-70 mph: 4.9 sec Top Speed (gov ltd): 125 mph Braking, 70-0 mph: 173 ft Roadholding, 300-ft Skidpad: 0.90 Camry: 60 mph: 6.8 sec 1/4-Mile: 15.1 sec @ 94 mph 100 mph: 17.1 sec Rolling Start, 5-60 mph: 7.1 sec 30-50 mph: 4.0 sec 50-70 mph: 5.1 sec Top Speed (gov ltd): 115 mph Braking, 70-0 mph: 182 ft Roadholding, 300-ft Skidpad: 0.84 g
@timvibes
@timvibes Ай бұрын
'25 Camry is so much more fun to drive. More torquey.
@rockyelbrodi
@rockyelbrodi Ай бұрын
A 2025 Civic Hybrid is even more fun. I test drove a 25 Camry as well.
@timvibes
@timvibes Ай бұрын
I'm sure it is because it's smaller, but it loses in interior quality and refinement. I feel like I get more of my money's worth with the Camry.
@Uno_Floydd
@Uno_Floydd Ай бұрын
I have an auto brake hold feature in my 04 Honda Accord too. It’s called my foot. It also has a sport mode called my foot stepping on the gas more. It also has something that this new car doesn’t. A cable driven throttle cable. It also has a eco mode too it comes on automatically when I don’t step on it.
@kenj.8897
@kenj.8897 14 күн бұрын
O boy
@rickelliott3277
@rickelliott3277 Ай бұрын
I’m in the market for a new sedan. Did not even consider the Accord. You may have changed my mind. I was all in on the Camry. Time to test drive both vehicles back to back. Thank you for the timely video
@Charleywex
@Charleywex Ай бұрын
If you drive them both, you'll prob pick the Honda. Camry feels like a compact after being in an Accord
@michaelnash2972
@michaelnash2972 Ай бұрын
You’re most likely going to like the Accord better. I drove them back to back and there was hardly a comparison. Honda’s generally are more fun to drive. Yes Toyota’s hybrids are technically more efficient, Honda does a better job at balancing efficiency, refinement and a fun, sporting driving experience. Also don’t dismiss the Civic Hybrid either. I bought the 25 Sport Touring and I absolutely love it.
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
If you can get a good deal on the Honda, it's a great choice. Happy shopping and good luck!
@carsoncunningham7993
@carsoncunningham7993 Ай бұрын
I have driven both. The new Camry is nice, but smaller. I am 6’3” and my head was nearly hitting the ceiling in the Camry.
@julienalexander6113
@julienalexander6113 Ай бұрын
I just don't understand why it's so hard for these companies to make vehicles all wheel drive🤦🏾‍♂️ Honda should've refreshed that front-end, too!
@nissanhonda25
@nissanhonda25 Ай бұрын
The Camry has awd
@julienalexander6113
@julienalexander6113 Ай бұрын
@@nissanhonda25 I'm speaking in regard to Honda-generally speaking to the cars that people actually want.
@drewski1441
@drewski1441 Ай бұрын
Design resembles a late 80's Ford Taurus 😒
@deko29
@deko29 Ай бұрын
I'm not a fan of auto brake hold. I have mine off 😂
@realtalk5931
@realtalk5931 Ай бұрын
Love the interior. Hate the exterior and price.
@redcapote4760
@redcapote4760 Ай бұрын
You hate the price? This isn't a Hyundai Elantra in 2006, dude.
@realtalk5931
@realtalk5931 Ай бұрын
@ that’s what I said pal. We got a problem????
@redcapote4760
@redcapote4760 Ай бұрын
@@realtalk5931 You have a reality problem, goofynuts. And you look stupid for talking to me like that, like you're going to invite me outside to fight. Anyhow, what did you want the price to be for a full size hybrid sedan with leather?
@socalbadger1
@socalbadger1 Ай бұрын
Not having awd is a big miss. Can’t compete with Camry because of it.
@faheemabbas3965
@faheemabbas3965 Ай бұрын
Acura not making hybrids is just about as bad too, if not worse.
@kayleehong7818
@kayleehong7818 Ай бұрын
I like the interior, like the hybrid drivetrain, I should because I have a 24 CRV hybrid, but man the accord is so ugly, I know looks are subjective but if I park and walk away I will not be looking back. Sorry to offend anyone.
@nissanhonda25
@nissanhonda25 Ай бұрын
Pretty sure that’s a ford taurus
@tyhyhh
@tyhyhh 20 күн бұрын
all windshields are laminated glass 2 pieces
@lawrencefeldman462
@lawrencefeldman462 21 күн бұрын
Buy a Subaru outback best vehicle for the bucks. Former Accord owner after ten accords i rather buy Subaru outback now
@kenj.8897
@kenj.8897 14 күн бұрын
Do you have pink hair and a nose ring
@john_dee1431
@john_dee1431 15 күн бұрын
Like lag in a GTR but not rewarding.
@alengreen589
@alengreen589 Ай бұрын
this car needs urgently a design update, the exterior and interior looks so boring.
@chillnndc
@chillnndc Ай бұрын
This generation of Accord is ugly as sin. HONDA/Acura is missing the market of not offering more models that are Hybrids as well
@jes3363
@jes3363 7 күн бұрын
Ac is electric
@Unchainedmaple888
@Unchainedmaple888 Ай бұрын
Literal GTA NPC car lmao
@peruvianheat2053
@peruvianheat2053 Ай бұрын
As someone who drives this car I agree. It's a nice smooth ride though, nothing more.
@Hello123-b7l
@Hello123-b7l Ай бұрын
ngl i actually really like the look of this gen accord. Way better than the last gen imo.
@ZACH_95_
@ZACH_95_ Ай бұрын
It’s a perfect highway cruiser. Even the older 2.0t in the old gen was a npc car, it was just quick. But it had no character. Wasn’t fun in any other way of just being quick. When they took the v6 out and got rid of the coupe in 2017 it went down hill. I had a ‘17 coupe v6 manual. I miss that car so much. That was a beautiful car. And again yes the 2.0t was quick but it just didn’t have any character for me.
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