2025 Mazda CX-70 First Drive: Is This The BEST Two-Row SUV You Can Buy?

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[@dallasbrown-ew8yk]

The infotainment with the scroll wheel is actually great once you own it for a bit. I love mine.

[@Hope-cn1tm]

Absolutely! After you have lived with it, you don't want to live without it.

[@vikvc]

I got a CX-5 for rental and ever since then hate other systems. Specially on some of the korean brands that have replace clicky buttons with touch buttons and distracting screens.

[@sestin535]

It's the best. I'm on my 4th Mazda and it allows for total ergonomic driver focus--no need to take eyes off the road much.

[@destineyross8964]

I 100% agree, love never having any finger prints on my screen. Makes it look so much cleaner.

[@benf1111]

I have the Mazda 3 and I love the infotainment center and the fact that it uses a knob is an advantage to me. Much less distracting than a touch screen IMO.😊

[@thomas735]

In a world where people rarely have more than 2 kids this vehicle actually makes a lot of sense to me

[@PresidentJackBauer]

It's the same car with the seats removed. You don't even get more space

[@JoseDiaz-qw7mg]

@@PresidentJackBauer you get the freedom of not having to lower the third row every time you need the extra space. You will always have that extra space, and for me, that’s so much better

[@PresidentJackBauer]

@@JoseDiaz-qw7mg just keep the third row down and only raise it when you need the seats. Then you'll have the option. Without the seats, no option. The price difference and lack of versatility just seem to not add up.

[@JoseDiaz-qw7mg]

@@PresidentJackBauer having the third row without ever using them is dumb. it means extra stuff to clean and maintain

[@wmbrent123]

Thank you!

[@fscottgray9784]

I would rather have the 2 row SUV over the three row option. No one uses the 3rd row in the real world. Mazda is reqlly hitting all the right spots lately.

[@taylorward2983]

What if u have a whole family gang

[@atmartens]

Agreed. Especially with luggage, or dogs it’s much better. The Passport, Venza, and Grand Cherokee are all going to continue doing well. Most larger families will option for a Tahoe or take two cars.

[@paulh6517]

@@taylorward2983 Then get the CX-90.

[@tmfaber]

@@atmartens well depends…my dog has a car seat so 3rd row is perfect for him lol

[@taylorward2983]

@@paulh6517 read the original comment twin

[@farcinue]

These look sharp in real life. Best looking mid sized suv.

[@NumbahEleven]

This blue is GORGEOUS

[@thepinkdiamonds8370]

I believe it’s gray, not blue.

[@legion2004]

@@thepinkdiamonds8370that was my thought too because blue isn’t an option.

[@CarsandTechInfo]

This is the Polymetal Gray

[@hothondansx]

Kase...quality presentation THX!

[@ST-xg3gy]

I like the car and I've never had an issue with Bose sound systems.

[@onealebaptiste9988]

Lucky you. The Bose system in the 2015 Mazda 6 that I owned was poorly manufactured. The speakers pulled away from the foam connection, rendering the sound quality horrible. It was a known problem, but Mazda would not repair it without a charge.

[@DragonKnightX12]

​@@onealebaptiste9988That sucks. At that point I would just go get a aftermarket system installed.

[@georgepaniagua6115]

Owner of a 2016 CX9. Love the Bose system. Deep base. Have absolutely no issues.

[@craigroosa9321]

Great review Kase and love the way you move it along ! Good looking interior and and great sound at full throttle .

[@STiStein]

I cannot wait to see someone tune and open up that exhaust.

[@zennoodle]

Cork Sports may offer something in the future but just like Cobb Tuning though, Subaru, BMW, Audi and Porsche are starting to block a lot of the parameters needed to adjust throttle and intake so who knows. Would love to see it happen too!

[@nitriq]

I wish they moved the seat back and gave the 2nd row more room. I am giving the most real estate to open air while occupants get average room for the segment.

[@LlyleHunter]

WOW! I’m quite knocked out with both the exterior and interior styling as well as the interior appointments and materials. That chrome band around the back of the steering wheel behind the airbag is reminiscent of the days prior to collapsible steering columns when premium and luxury cars had chrome steering columns whilst run of the mill cars had painted columns. It stands out. I love that the car has an inline six cylinder engine and your videographer captured that from the interior view outward the hood looks like a power dome when motoring down the road. This seems like Mazda has designed a very exiting and luxurious vehicle. It’s a grand touring crossover if you will and I’m looking forward to the market release.

[@ExTrumpet]

The engine cover has an engine cover!!

[@robertdevoy3119]

I understand it takes multiple steps to turn off the auto stop/start feature instead of simply pressing one button.

[@NoLimitsCommemorativ]

@ 5:35 - look, my biggest issue with all of Mazda's SUV's is how intrusive the center console/transmission tunnel is to the driver right leg and front passenger left leg. It is so bulky and tapers out even further as you move to the front of the cabin from the seat.

[@sandroscielzo9964]

How big are you? I will test drive one soon and report back

[@twystedhumour]

Thanks, Kase. I guess I'll be keeping my CX-9 for a while...

[@CarsandTechInfo]

This is the exact color combination I would get for this trim! I love this stealthier Polymetal Gray with the quilted tan or even the red Nappa leather interior on the Turbo S Premium trim below this Premium Plus trim

[@jasondickens9003]

This vehicle from Mazda is on point. It’s a sporty drivers SUV for very reasonable dollars. It’s not meant to be all things to all people. I like how Mazda is a focused brand that is trying to differentiate their offerings from other commodity products that are just middle of the road. This is a fun to drive family SUV. Good job Mazda.

[@paulking4908]

The road noise may be caused by the low profile tires.

[@johnl2179]

The cargo space quoted is the total within the vehicle. What would be nice to know is how much of that space is "usable"?

[@Chiroman527]

The new Mazdas look great and deliver impressive power & Torque. I would opt for a Premium Plus Turbo S. I ask that those interested in the PHEV, consult the Mazda Car Forums for owners' comments. It seems the new model has been plagued with various problems. IMHO, I don't want Battery Anxiety - a new term being brandied about concerfning EVs. I am really liking this exterior blue color with the mixed Tan interior... very sharp. InfoT. system is lacking for sure. But, the competition is limited to attaining these HP/ Torque & MPG numbers. I have a 22 MDX Advance lease coming due in August. In order to get the power numbers of the CX-90 or CX-70, I would need to opt for a Type S model @ $13-14K More. But the Acura gets less MPGs in non Type S models and much less in the Type S models.

[@johnl2179]

You neglected to mention the power adjustable/programmable steering column. Not many manufacturers offer this feature which has been around for more than 30 years.

[@firexela]

Nice review!! What's the software version of the infotainment system? tnx in advance!

[@dad242]

Really nice. What color is that? :)

[@NileshR12]

This is the Polymetal Gray exterior color

[@yoshi7527]

can you review the car going down a highway getting hit by small rocks? i think my cx5 is on the 5th windshield replacement

[@krane15]

Stop driving behind trucks.

[@ChrisP3000x]

​@@krane15you mean Mazda should stop putting in garbage glass.

[@jaythomasni]

They already had the right sized Japan made CX-60. they could have brought to North America for stellar sales. This should have been a trim of CX-90, Something like CX-90S . S for Sport , or CX-90X for Off-roading.

[@eddietzitro3954]

I agree so much !! I’m so upset Mazda didn’t do that. The Cx-60 is perfect size for my family - 1 baby. This 70 is kind of awkward sized for 2 row

[@cooperscott6574]

How annoying is the tiny screen vs the bigger screens in other cars?

[@Ian-mv4qq]

The interior especially driver area has to be one of the most beautiful looking designs out there. Not sure how much annoying the screen is being partial touch screen and partial not. What are the strong competitors for this CX70?

[@HiImKen-re8pu]

Is the cabin quiet? I have a 2023 CX-50. While I love it, I do think I hear a lot of road noise. The cabin does not seem to be that well insulated, and on roads that are not smoothly surfaced, it can be loud. I paid &48k for it. While I’d like my next car to be a Mazda too, the cabin sound might be a deal breaker.

[@Lookatthatqq]

Can't wait to see the drag races with a tuned inline 6 turbo .

[@TravelBreakthrough]

I just test drove and did a review on one of those recently! Hybrid sales are SURGING right now

[@winnaung1238]

Just because of the styling I would pick cx70!

[@sagedrummer]

Love my CX-70 Phev premium plus!

[@ninchalla_creates]

I still feel at the very least they should've sloped the rear more to differentiate it from the CX-90. I'm sure it's driving dynamics are probably very different

[@splice247]

If people bought stripper spec base models, they would still be around, the people who want to pay less, just buy used. I agree, but it's not the real world

[@Tiovergudo]

Mazda dropped the ball. We wanted the european cx60 size

[@MsAsb-zx4sr]

Same I ended up going with a Lexus

[@sfpelkey]

@@MsAsb-zx4sr NX or RX?

[@vzkmqz]

CX50 is the same size as the CX60.

[@khalifatoure8198]

@@vzkmqzwhat we mean is that we actually need the cx60. In other words, we need the cx70 but smaller. If Mazda bring the cx60 in the US that car will be the best selling SUV

[@sandroscielzo9964]

@@khalifatoure8198 Rumor has it next year's CX-5 will be a complete redesign with a new Mazda hybrid system option. If it is indeed a redesign, chances are it will be bigger as well, like a CX-60

[@austinwilson6289]

My 06 CRV has an almost identical cargo volume with a full size spare

[@trikeshwarsingh4940]

Price is quite similar, am I missing something why wouldn’t I buy 7 seater and put the seats down till one fine day I need them

[@neotheboxer6015]

The CX90 3rd Roe does require some configuration changes to make it workable bit I have been thinking similarly. Also, the CX70 actually does feel lighter than the CX90 when driving. So the experience is a little different

[@islandknight6105]

With the CX 70 you won’t have to be the carpool guy every time there’s 6 other people going along. 😳 Selfish, I know.

[@HRCfan17]

So many people comparing the pricing between the two. The CX90 is a 2024 while the CX70 is a 2025. Let’s wait to see the pricing of the 2025 CX90 before we start comparing prices shall we?

[@jj5515]

I am waiting on the cx5 hybrid to be out. It’s between that and cx70

[@artemartem8425]

Is it mild hybrid?

[@arman8097]

What an awesome car. I wish i didn't have cx5, have to wait at least another year and a half

[@jamesskinner762]

In the "S" model price range, which other SUV's in its class do you think is the best one? I love the extra horsepower of the "S".

[@aaronchase38]

They could have done an exhaust just below the red reflectors which would help the rear bulge look..and let the inline sing naturally. Especially as this is the sporty version.. Mazda please offer a sport package with a exhaust👍

[@user-hg6vd2iz7m]

why did they put a fake vent next to the functional air curtain? this vehicle could look like an actual lower cost competitor to the higher end brands, if not for that.

[@arly0607]

Mazda 2018 had bose stereo system....what happened😮?

[@RogueCylon]

Where is this model made?

[@bosse641]

Looks nice.

[@jcritch42]

We want this WITHOUT a traction battery that might fail in thermal runaway!!!! NO turbo that will fail early !!! And a MUCH lower price!!!

[@shaneh734]

Case looks like he’s been doing CrossFit! He’s getting built👀💯😂

[@jsecure1569]

Does mazda make a car without adaptive cruise and can you turn off all that electronic beeping nanny state junk? I can drive, I don't need the car to decide how far away I pull out when passing someone. Don't need the car to give me a ton of "beeps".

[@luckemi]

Adaptive doesn’t turn on automatically; you need to turn it on every time. By that said it WILL save your ass. I recommend using it anytime on highway.

[@jsecure1569]

@@luckemi No kidding you have to turn cruise on, you missed the point. I don't want adaptive, give me the choice of adaptive or normal. As far as saving ass, it's going to kill more than save. Yesterday the damn thing slammed on the brakes as another car had already made a turn in front of me but the sensor decided it was too close, it caught the car behind me by surprise as well as me. The turning car had already cleared the center line. My opinion is adaptive might work fine in rush hour traffic, but mandate the option of regular cruise for adults who know how to drive and don't have to have a nanny watching over them.

[@TallDarkStranger60]

I don't understand the value proposition. Over 62k, the price of a Lexus RX or Acura MDX, but with only a 3 year warranty, no loaner during service (I confirmed this with the local dealer) and no upscale brand image. Then again, the CX70 is the same as the CX90 with the 3rd row removed, but equally expensive? And equally absolutely massive? I just don't get it. Also, look up the 5 year cost to own. Its MUCH more than a Lexus because of higher depreciation. Used, 2024, CX90s are now selling for 30k. I may have still been interested, but I had a Mazda Millenia many years ago and loved it....but it broke regularly. The 3-year warranty is a deal breaker for me.

[@sschevmale24]

I aleways wanted a beamer this to me seems a lot better than x5

[@panknz]

We bought a MAZDA CX-60, and it has been a terrible experience. We’ve had problems every day. In just six months, we’ve had to bring it in for recalls and software resets five times. The value has already dropped by $10,000. Please don’t buy the CX-60. My wife spoke to the General Sales Manager, Robert, but there was no resolution. He was polite, but nothing was accomplished.

[@Blueblood4123]

The only issue I have with my CX70 is no place to put a phone or small personal items…

[@joephoto1353]

The driving video has a lot of road noise. Is the car really that loud?

[@bradfordsparks329]

I would definitely purchase the new CX70 HEV/PHEV before this one.

[@VinceVDC]

Alexa's everywhere are trying to set thermostats to 70 degrees...

[@Theescapist_87]

Screens that stick up over the dash are just a no go for me. Which sucks because I think the dash looks great minus it looking like they slapped an oversized phone on top of the dash.

[@Ninvus2]

They put the screen there so you don't have to take your eyes off the road as much to look at it. Same reason it uses the dial for controls instead of a touchscreen. I have a 2015 Mazda3 and this is one of the main reasons I chose Mazda. Large distracting touch displays don't belong in cars imo

[@nikchipps4198]

I'm guessing this dude is 5'6-5'8. At 6'2, i'll need to see more.

[@rogerspalding5673]

)is the gross absence of exhaust pipes. The CX 30, CX 5, and CX 50 all have tasteful, attractive, and aurally pleasing twin exhaust pipes. At no undue expense, Mazda developed a well-deserved reputation for building sports cars (e.g. MX 5 Miata, rotary RX 7) and sports sedans (e.g. rotary RX 3 and RX 4). Why, at this point, Mazda decided to compromise its two impressive straight 6 turbo SUVs is beyond many enthusiasts; especially when they are both intended to be BMW competitors.

[@krane15]

On the other hand, its not making any promises it can't keep. Unlike Hyundai and a few other that pretend they're capable for off-road capabilities

[@DragonKnightX12]

​@@krane15Mazda does tho with the CX-50. CX-70/90 would more compete with the Genesis SUVs tho.

[@legionmartin]

I can't figure out how I feel about the design on this vehicle. From certain angles it looks pretty good and then others horrible. It just seems as though the sheet metal to glass ratio is off on the sides, it almost looks like plate armor on a tank. The back also reminds me of a crushed soda can.

[@MegaRetr]

Why do I see BMW X3ish design)

[@oneiros1401]

For this much money, might as well pay a bit extra and get a Lexus, but know that you're getting a hybrid/PHEV powertrain from a company that has pioneered it.

[@peterj5751]

Except I loath the driving characteristics of the CVT transmission. Maybe it’s just me.

[@lukeclayton7578]

I think this should have been a sleek wagon not an SUV, think Subaru Outback but lowered. It would have gotten better MPGs, a less awkward rear end, and better driving dynamics.

[@Carlostheaggie]

2nd row is still cramped and doesn’t fit 3 adults. With all the extra room since there is no 3rd row, a more versatile 2nd row could have made this car worthwhile.

[@krane15]

Can you give us a compact that does? None of them are going to carry 3 adult passengers comfortably for long.

[@PeteNally]

@@krane15but CX-70 could have easily added couple of more inches into the second row than leaving all that space for a trunk that goes unused for 99% of the life of the vehicle

[@neotheboxer6015]

I think that depends on the adults. It is not bad.

[@matthewmorgan5680]

@@PeteNallymaybe for you. We always have shit in our trunk. Stroller, foldable wagon, dogs, $300 Costco trip, etc. The extra space is baller. We currently have a 3 row and never use the 3rd row, but it’s more of a pain in the ass to keep clean because stuff always falls in the gaps where the seats are.

[@DragonKnightX12]

​​@@krane15That is not a compact even by US standards. It's the same size as a Dodge Durango. Lol

[@Axp258]

Why do I see BMW X3ish / X5ish design traits?

[@kksan]

which are good design traits

[@Axp258]

@@kksan But not authentic

[@carlbrooks90]

If i had one first thing coming off is that silly engine cover, less heat the better

[@rudymoralesjr]

As an owner of the Honda Passport, I like bigger 2 rows in the market. But I like my Passport more since it seems it's more off-road capable than this while still having a better street driving feel than a true off-roader.

[@paulh6517]

I think the CX-70 is more luxury focused and not off-roading. You really don't have much of a choice with interior colors with any Honda product. I have owned 4 Hondas and the Honda Passport is the pick of the litter in the Honda lineup.

[@dimcorner]

The Honda is also 6" shorter which makes it fitting into garages easier. My biggest grip is that at 200" there is not much room to walk around the car once the garage door is closed let alone open the tailgate.

[@thomas735]

One thing Mazda has got going for it is customer support

[@byronlarson5534]

Get a Grand Cherokee. You can have off road ability and a touch of luxury.

[@thomas735]

@@byronlarson5534 and worst and industry reliability and headaches to boot!!

[@ElliottTAlphaG700]

Next time drive to Idyllwild! Very winding road, plus super pretty & Temps in PS can be 110+ while 1 hour away in the Mt.'s it can be a cool 75! Could also hook ya up with a friend who currently owns Bob Hope's home in PS. Can't miss look up highest home & gargantuan! As far as the car, I vehemently hate Bezos as much as Musk. Does Mazda not use Google? Bc that would be a major NO for me. Otherwise seriously pretty. Much like ... well yah 😂

[@LukeEdward]

That’s a lot of wasted vehicular space, but still. The market that does NOT want the extra passenger capacity will eat this up.

[@PresidentJackBauer]

It's the same space though. If you weren't going to buy the cx90, you wouldn't buy this

[@SCarWolPats]

@@PresidentJackBauerI mean, not necessarily true. I wasnt interested in the 90, but this is right up my alley.

[@worldofwisdom617]

I dont need the 3rd row, the extra space for the various stuff I carry will make this right.

[@PresidentJackBauer]

@@worldofwisdom617 the cx 90 has 0.4 more cubic feet of space behind the second row. 1.1 cubic feet less with the third row folded. It's almost identical

[@matthewmorgan5680]

@@PresidentJackBauerAs someone who owns a 3 row and never uses it, I absolutely want the CX-70. I have 2 dogs and not having to clean dog hair out of the chair gaps (while still having the same amount of space) is a game changer.

[@bradley7506]

For resale value I’d rather get the CX90 and leave the rear seat folded down. The 70 and 90 are pretty much identical anyway. Nice vehicle though….

[@davidhalley9795]

The only thing I do t like is the saddle colored steering wheel. In the real world that gets dirty from your hands and over time the color gets dull. It’s fine for luxury vehicles you don’t drive often but this will be used a lot.

[@BryanW916]

kase 🔥

[@Darthlichtus]

This is a copy of the BMW X3 M40i. Should be nice! I love my M40i…. Great vehicles

[@markdiloreto9042]

its actually much larger in all dimensions

[@Darthlichtus]

@@markdiloreto9042 dimensions like the X5 then.

[@th003g]

​@@Darthlichtusmore like x7 sized. With the space of an X5.

[@freecitizen7372]

Mazda’s have never been on my radar.

[@joshc606]

Love it

[@sppeders1]

17kwh battery and only 26 miles of all electric driving? isn't rule of thumb usually 2-3 miles/KWh?

[@brianb5723]

You would think...Teslas are getting 4+ miles per kw.

[@davidanderson-22]

​@@brianb5723But Tesla isn't making a PHEV. Not a good comparison.

[@Gemmellot]

Can you mute the audio when speaking the trigger words "Alexa" & "Google" in your videos. All of the devices just woke up trying to set the thermostat to 70 degrees. Thank you.

[@davidanderson-22]

😂

[@tigerbalm666]

Not a fan of the 2 tone steering wheel!...90's gaudy.

[@krane15]

More luxurious than Toyota or Honda. But not as much room, economy, or reliability as either.

[@garyranta9811]

3.3 turbo with 280 hp? Torque number is good@360+ but wheres the hp. I drive a 2020 sorento with a 3.3 v6 with 290+hp na and the turbo version of that motor is 365 hp. A 3.0 bmw is 375 hp and stellantis,s 3.0 inline is 420 hp and they also have a H.O. with 520. Come on Mazda.

[@generynkewicz4871]

Still no BMW X3/4 M40i.

[@SupUce]

Its nice but I’d rather spend my money on a Chevy Tahoe.

[@paulh6517]

Go for it. I doubt many if any will cross shop this CX-70 with a Tahoe unless you are Mormon.

[@davidhorne2326]

Cx70 or Passport?

[@andrewstadeker7679]

They hit the nail on the updated exterior and interior trim upgrades, then they sabotage the entire CX 90 and delete the 3rd row then rename it. Such a disappointment. Mazda, we need the 2nd row bench in the highest trims for the CX 90 with the same trims of your so-called CX 70. I just went in the showroom 2 days ago only to leave frustrated because the styling of the CX 70 hits all the marks but doesn't fulfill the seat requirements. And use the max seating and upgrades for the highest trim levels for the CX90 PHEV for 2025!

[@TheCompassRoseTarot]

Having owned 2 Mazdas, I love them... and I'm seriously eyeing this car...HOWEVER... can we please stop shrinking the rear hatch window and making the taillights narrower and sharper looking? The front of this car is a dream, but the rear is increasingly a mullet... more 2015 era CX-5 and less of whatever this is, please! The front is fabulous though!

[@singular9]

Screw alexa and all that spyware.

[@KourtneyPagel-t2v]

Keeling Loop

[@jondavid4747]

Specced one out and realized it was more expensive than an RX350 so I got one of those instead

[@matthewmorgan5680]

There’s no way you got an rx350 with equivalent features for the the same price. You have to go all the way up to an RX 500h to get the same level of performance and features. That MSRP is almost $10k more

[@morrisf3957]

Mazda went too far with the build of this straight 6 it is far to complicated and would be a nightmare for repairs .something to consider.

[@marklewandowski5996]

60k?????????

[@oliviamathis3417]

$60, 000 is too much.

[@th003g]

Save yourself some time, its a cx90 with no third row and a bench. Anything else can be changed by the owner.

[@Discussions1]

I like the exterior color. The interior color should be black. Also Mazda has not resolved its transmission issues.

[@hd3adpool]

What transmission issues?

[@1badsr]

The problems is any 3 row can be a 2 row, so who cares? lol

[@mbaktari8194]

MAAAAAZDA.......stick with REGULAR AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION.....

[@cpg8000]

Glad you said it!

[@leiffabian175]

Another flop from mazda for the US market..cx90 with a 3rd row delete,,they are gonna lose customers it they don't bring smaller hybrids..with more tech features like the competition.

[@inoglax]

I ❤vídeo

[@barbarahunter5463]

Never buy a mazda they don't honor their warranty. I bought a 2023 mazda cx30 and the battery died and would take a charge. They replaced the battery. Then that battery died and wouldn't take a charge. They charged me for the 2nd battery. Because I have a dashcam they claim it ruined the battery. The dashcam doesn't run when the car is off. My son and daughter in law both have the same dashcam in their Hyundai they have never had their battery go bad. Any car that can't generate enough electricity to keep a battery charged is junk. Any battery that goes completely dead after running down one time is junk. Any car company that doesn't honor their warranty are crooks. And that goes the same for the dealership. I will never buy another car from mazda or any hubler dealership

[@adler7-l7z]

gas milage is underwhelming.

[@slothboyomg]

That road noise is terrible!

[@rmartin987]

Cx90 I understand, but this car makes no sense

[@davidanderson-22]

Makes sense to me. Two rows and plenty of storage is more than enough for me.

[@rmartin987]

@@davidanderson-22 Same Price as CX90, and you can fold down the seats.

[@thomas735]

Makes more sense for anyone with 2 kids or less

[@rmartin987]

@@thomas735 As they cost the same, in the case you are making what does the cx70 do that the cx90 doesn’t. If you fold the rear seats you get the exact same car. You’re literally paying the same for less. And as you said 2 kids or less the bench seat isn’t even needed…

[@thomas735]

@@rmartin987 this has more storage and cargo capacity because those extra seats aren’t taking up room.