2025 Porsche 911 992.2 | Bigger Engine, Electric Turbo

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@MR3DDev
@MR3DDev 5 ай бұрын
I remember a time when "electric turbo" meant some BS you got from Ebay
@toddstevens8506
@toddstevens8506 5 ай бұрын
Not to split hairs but it's an electrically assisted turbocharger, it's still principally powered by exhaust gas.
@aussie2uGA
@aussie2uGA 5 ай бұрын
JC Whitney for the win!
@hyojoonus
@hyojoonus 5 ай бұрын
I was quite tempted to stick those in my mk4.
@brly4542
@brly4542 5 ай бұрын
​@@toddstevens8506was going to say if it was purely electric it would be a centrifugal supercharger, turbo charges are run off exhaust gasses.
@nobody_X24
@nobody_X24 5 ай бұрын
Lmfao YESSSS
@augustortiz
@augustortiz 5 ай бұрын
It’s amazing how the Savagegeese channel has evolved, from Arby’s food reviews to 911 press releases and technical briefings.
@umadachi
@umadachi 5 ай бұрын
And red lobster reviews too! That's more American luxury than a buick envista!
@Suomyice
@Suomyice 5 ай бұрын
But the issue is that what made the channel special in the early days for us that have been supporters of Mark for before this became his full on profession. Feel like it is losing more and more of it originality as time passes by and hate to say it and with all to respect for Jack. I think he is the biggest reason for it. As he wants to make it more into sometimes like this video is for exp. And to us the OG's this isn't what we ever wanted to see become of Savagegeese.
@augustortiz
@augustortiz 5 ай бұрын
I agree and I love Jack as a presenter. I think it’s sad Mark isn’t that involved anymore and the channel has morphed into something new. That being said im still a firm believer in Savagegeese supremacy as a car channel. I also feel it’s morphing into a commercial powerhouse like Motortrend was in its peak. It certainly has a lot of similarities. Hopefully it can retain some of the fun from the early videos with the highly technical deep dives and well, car porn it currently offers.
@koolkeef
@koolkeef 5 ай бұрын
Arby's review? Now I have to go digging back into their old video, lol.
@jwazftw4200
@jwazftw4200 5 ай бұрын
Jack's doing a great job with the engineer interviews. Mark's editing top notch too. Is this what peak SG looks like?
@andoletube
@andoletube 5 ай бұрын
Especially considering how stern and lacking in enthusiasm the engineers are...
@geraldbennett7035
@geraldbennett7035 5 ай бұрын
@@andoletube they are engineers. so.....
@snail415
@snail415 5 ай бұрын
It is what great rapport with a premier automaker looks-like, at minimum.
@ZackNakazora1
@ZackNakazora1 5 ай бұрын
So was Jack. Is* Jack. ​@@geraldbennett7035
@apacifico
@apacifico 5 ай бұрын
that's just Germans
@wg5331
@wg5331 5 ай бұрын
Look at Jack looking so handsome all dressed up. A man’s man.
@jackholmes8105
@jackholmes8105 5 ай бұрын
😘
@guycha0s380
@guycha0s380 5 ай бұрын
​@@jackholmes8105 hi jack ❤
@dielaughing73
@dielaughing73 5 ай бұрын
A man's man's man
@andrew4451
@andrew4451 5 ай бұрын
Always match your shoes and belt.
@umadachi
@umadachi 5 ай бұрын
all dressed up for his mom to take him to church
@savagegtalks5912
@savagegtalks5912 5 ай бұрын
This was better made than Porsche's own YT launch video.
@bc8Sooners
@bc8Sooners 5 ай бұрын
Definitely, that was so scripted, like two robots reading to each others.
@savagegtalks5912
@savagegtalks5912 5 ай бұрын
@@bc8Sooners if you told me it was all Ai, I'd believe you. Someone to Ai "give me promotion video of 911, using these people".
@Acct1941
@Acct1941 5 ай бұрын
Keep your beepers on because I am having a truckload of Beef 'N' Cheddars dropped off on the Bendpak area in the Shoppe. Jack, Mark, you did it. You are in the A-list of Porsche people. You made it--keep it up.
@BigDonkMongo
@BigDonkMongo 5 ай бұрын
Thank you
@stewiegriffin123yes
@stewiegriffin123yes 5 ай бұрын
😂😂
@philipsgarage
@philipsgarage 5 ай бұрын
I guess aliexpress was ahead of the game with electric turbos.
@bigpeeler
@bigpeeler 5 ай бұрын
Jack is so impressive and articulate. I love the fact that these engineers don't have to talk down to him. Such a great channel.
@andoletube
@andoletube 5 ай бұрын
Well, Jack is an engineer...
@borderwave2
@borderwave2 5 ай бұрын
They kind of glossed over it, but the Lambda 1 thing is really big news. There is not a single turbocharged engine on sale that targets an AFR of 14.7 under load. That's very impressive.
@lorrinbarth1969
@lorrinbarth1969 5 ай бұрын
If it works
@ikaros4203
@ikaros4203 5 ай бұрын
*puts in 89 octane*
@ChurchAutoTest
@ChurchAutoTest 5 ай бұрын
Actually most of them do, at least for limited operation. BMW has been doing it since the N54 engine, but would only run lambda 1 up until 4000 rpm or so, or for a few seconds until exhaust temps climbed then they'd go to power enrichment. The 3.0 turbo in the new Acuras tries to run lambda 1 for as long as possible as well (BMW does it better).
@domkraggp9944
@domkraggp9944 5 ай бұрын
So is it detrimental to keep the AFR stoichiometric at full load ? , I thought all engines did this ?
@ikaros4203
@ikaros4203 5 ай бұрын
@@domkraggp9944 on regular gasoline yes very hard to do and has never really been done on cars 100% of the time before… on Ethanol fuel you could do it because it burns slower and cooler allowing quite lean mixtures And if you’re wondering why it’s bad: lean mixture means more heat (and therefore knock/preignition… very bad for every part of the engine lol)
@bwatt1383
@bwatt1383 5 ай бұрын
No enrichment in the entire engine map is crazy, dont think ive seen that anywhere else
@SafeBandicoot
@SafeBandicoot 5 ай бұрын
It’s going to be a legal requirement in Europe soon.
@fauxtool952
@fauxtool952 5 ай бұрын
imagine what an aftermarket tune can do to this platform
@AI-qd4vb
@AI-qd4vb 5 ай бұрын
@@fauxtool952 screw it, as usual?
@dacmm
@dacmm 5 ай бұрын
Unfortunately you will see it everywhere soon :/
@dacmm
@dacmm 5 ай бұрын
@@fauxtool952 Probably burn out the electric motor in the PDK since it's permanently engaged, or blow the turbo due to no wastegate :D
@tupo3855
@tupo3855 5 ай бұрын
New gauge cluster is so ugly compared to the 992.1
@Acquit808
@Acquit808 5 ай бұрын
Total disappointment.
@spaz8461
@spaz8461 5 ай бұрын
That’s your opinion but you do you
@guycha0s380
@guycha0s380 5 ай бұрын
Yup, we need to go back to 70s
@Boahman
@Boahman 5 ай бұрын
They should offer customers an analog option if they desire to have it
@spaz8461
@spaz8461 5 ай бұрын
@@Boahman yknow that’s actually a good idea, more little options for preferences
@n9athan
@n9athan 5 ай бұрын
Man these prices are insane, $167k for the GTS is brutal.
@refuztosay9454
@refuztosay9454 5 ай бұрын
They have to pay for all the losses on Taycan and EV R&D costs. Basically you are buying an EV indirectly whether you like it or not. This is how the climate change hoax rolls out across industries; taxing consumers at every opportunity.
@GOLD_FEVER
@GOLD_FEVER 5 ай бұрын
The poors are outing themselves!
@openranks4519
@openranks4519 5 ай бұрын
It’s not for you bro😂
@elpinguino6934
@elpinguino6934 5 ай бұрын
​@@GOLD_FEVERthis isn't the flex you think it is lil bro
@GOLD_FEVER
@GOLD_FEVER 5 ай бұрын
@@elpinguino6934 It isn't a flex at all lil bro.
@Acquit808
@Acquit808 5 ай бұрын
Really miss the analog tach.
@rmp5s
@rmp5s 5 ай бұрын
It's BEYOND LAME that that's gone. No one asked for all these damn screens.
@mofayer
@mofayer 5 ай бұрын
For real. I love that TLX type s still has the analog type s silver gauges. Also the traditional cockpit look. Just wish I had the money. 😢. I nearly cried when I saw the new mustang have the ugly bmw screen.
@future62
@future62 5 ай бұрын
You can just look at pictures of analog ones as I imagine that's how most of us have seen 911 gauges.
@walthefl
@walthefl 5 ай бұрын
I don’t get it either. It must really be cost savings at the end of the day… I mean battery percentage and stuff can also be checked even when there’s still an analogue gauge in between the screens…
@bfopie
@bfopie 5 ай бұрын
For real. I'm even more stoked to have my 992.1 manual after watching this.
@tyler9703
@tyler9703 5 ай бұрын
All this new hybrid and E-tech may benefit performance, but holy complexity. This car will be an absolute nightmare to maintain 10 years down the line from now.
@wrappinbeats7588
@wrappinbeats7588 5 ай бұрын
was just about to comment this. I have enjoyed the relative reliability of porsches but this does not seem to check that box.
@JollyGiant19
@JollyGiant19 5 ай бұрын
Asking for long term reliability and ease of maintenance from a European sports car isn’t realistic. If those are top of mind the Lexus IS 500 is a much better choice.
@AI-qd4vb
@AI-qd4vb 5 ай бұрын
@@JollyGiant19 The IS500 a better choice of what lol? Its not even a sports car... Its an archaic V8 coupled to an even more archaic compact sedan platform.
@AI-qd4vb
@AI-qd4vb 5 ай бұрын
It will be maintained by specialists and enthusiasts, like all porsche cars... Thats nothing new in Porsche world. And in any case, in the supercar spectrum, Porsche has always delivered solid cars. Usually the most reliable ones.
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 5 ай бұрын
It's a Porsche, you ain't fixing it yourself.
@Slippy777
@Slippy777 5 ай бұрын
992.1 prices 📈 -Rear taillight makes the car look like a full on EV. They did not need to add another long lightbar. That weird section where the “Porsche” logo looks awkward. The 992.1 rear end looks much better. -a push to start button. Really?!?! -fully digital analog?!?! They really listened to consumers 🧐 -sure, the hybridization makes it faster but I’m going to bet the ride will be more soulless. Faster is not always better. I’d much rather drive a 993 over a Tesla S Plaid any day. -Maintenance will most certainly be a nightmare in the long run with all of these complexities. -those front fins are a no go. -MSRP “slightly raised”?!?! It just went up over $12k…. Almost 10% increase.
@refuztosay9454
@refuztosay9454 5 ай бұрын
Right on all accounts; Porsche hates its traditional customers. Every new 911 will be more EV u til it’s a Tesla wanna be. Might as well buy a Chinese BYD since EVs are just a commodity. The engine was the soul of Porsche and they have gutted it. They will force this down your throat if you want a new car. As far as I’m concerned Porsche is dead to me.
@JasonISF
@JasonISF 4 ай бұрын
These are $400+K in Australia, totally ludicrous money for a Porsche.
@remissiveslave
@remissiveslave 2 ай бұрын
I'd keep my focus st and replace it's engine 50 times b4 taking a tesla for free with lifetime energy coverage. 9/10 of my driving isn't about drag racing, you can lose you're license by just driving at the edge at all times. Was behind a NASTY sounding mustang yesterday, and him and i cruised at around 100 mph for many miles, and having to slow down, double clutch, and be involved the whole time, was far more fun than a fast fridge. more engaging car that I feel I'm more involved with will win me over any speed of electric cars. No hate for those who disagree but I assure you, trying to discredit my opinion on this is a waste if your thought abd time.
@remissiveslave
@remissiveslave 2 ай бұрын
The second had market or these will be dead. Better off buying a very depreciated one and either drive it as it is till it's dead or get a new engine. Still into a new engine installed and used Porsche, say 2005--2015, still be cheaper than an ulga mobile.
@rondail5675
@rondail5675 5 ай бұрын
Always great to hear from the engineers directly.
@dielaughing73
@dielaughing73 5 ай бұрын
That's why we keep coming back
@cinthe3
@cinthe3 5 ай бұрын
That new beetle looks zippy
@AngryWalter
@AngryWalter 5 ай бұрын
Mark is always absent, petition to kick him out and replace with Turbowski.
@PANTALLIDETH94
@PANTALLIDETH94 5 ай бұрын
Mark doesn't go to Germany anymore after unjustly being kicked out of Rammstein. Not everyone can handle his power vocals...
@chippsdubbo89
@chippsdubbo89 5 ай бұрын
Alright Clarkson...
@erics.5785
@erics.5785 5 ай бұрын
You said the thing, congrats
@Knnnkncht
@Knnnkncht 5 ай бұрын
What happened in Rammstein?
@ulamss5
@ulamss5 5 ай бұрын
USB-IF has infiltrated Porsche's naming division
@millll111lllI
@millll111lllI 5 ай бұрын
Porsche marketing bs checklist 0-60 time mentioned ✅️ Ring time mentioned ✅️
@jackholmes8105
@jackholmes8105 5 ай бұрын
😂
@c0c0asauce
@c0c0asauce 5 ай бұрын
That can't be a Porsche check list. Where's the next 7 pages?
@karlsailor
@karlsailor 5 ай бұрын
To be fair, it's a commercial
@Carado5150
@Carado5150 5 ай бұрын
Na, 6 speed manual. Sell millions.
@guser7137
@guser7137 5 ай бұрын
The 0-60 is always understated.
@foehammerE419
@foehammerE419 5 ай бұрын
Can I use my Black+Decker batteries to spool the turbo faster?
@henryhilljr4250
@henryhilljr4250 5 ай бұрын
550 HP in the GTS w/ tech that effectively makes it feel naturally aspirated is insane
@anmolsaxena_
@anmolsaxena_ 5 ай бұрын
it may feel like it's n/a but it won't ever have a soundtrack of one
@LaraMauk
@LaraMauk 5 ай бұрын
@@anmolsaxena_darn
@joeracer302
@joeracer302 5 ай бұрын
@@anmolsaxena_I remember making fun of Civic bois for just worrying about how their cars sound. I guess performative is the closest to performance that some can get.
@air-headedaviator1805
@air-headedaviator1805 5 ай бұрын
And thats Porsche hp, so thats effectively 550 hp to the ground, while the whole system probably makes 620 hp 💦💦💦
@turbochoochoo
@turbochoochoo 5 ай бұрын
​@@anmolsaxena_the exhaust is free flowing considering it's an electric turbo no? Should sound quite similar
@MK3504
@MK3504 5 ай бұрын
Its a beauty how far this channel has progressed since I caught wind in 2014. Really has been the most underrated no nonsense honest automotive channel for years. It brings a salty tear to my eye
@CJL36
@CJL36 5 ай бұрын
That gauge cluster is the saddest thing I've ever seen. Come on Porsche!
@air-headedaviator1805
@air-headedaviator1805 5 ай бұрын
12:42 I love how this question is phrased. Like in general Jack asks brilliant questions that request explanations of how things really work. He kills it.
@opmike343
@opmike343 5 ай бұрын
No one is asking for more customization on the dash. They are doing it for costs, full stop.
@ikaros4203
@ikaros4203 5 ай бұрын
100%
@refuztosay9454
@refuztosay9454 5 ай бұрын
It’s because they want the most visible real estate on the dash under their control and for their messaging. Like “don’t drive so fast you’re harming the planet” flashing in bold where you can’t miss it.
@TeslaRoadtrips
@TeslaRoadtrips 4 ай бұрын
theyre priming you for EVs. sorry.
@rwantare1
@rwantare1 5 ай бұрын
MGU-H in a road car. This overall is more similar to the F1 power train than the F1 teams are doing in their road cars. Amazing.
@Nathan0A
@Nathan0A 5 ай бұрын
Makes me wonder why Porsche was pushing for the removal of MGU-H during F1 entry talks…
@BrianRoediger
@BrianRoediger 5 ай бұрын
That IS a head-scratcher
@air-headedaviator1805
@air-headedaviator1805 5 ай бұрын
Thats worth the definition of a new generation car alone
@cYaNiDE881
@cYaNiDE881 5 ай бұрын
That whole split-turbo MGU-H system was pioneered by the Mercedes F1 team and they have been running them since 2014. That system is present in their AMG One, the new C63 and the current gen. 43 (moniker) products.
@corystansbury
@corystansbury 5 ай бұрын
Mercedes already has it in the C63-- if anyone actually buys one
@jonasirw1
@jonasirw1 5 ай бұрын
Sounds like hybrid and manual transmissions are mutually exclusive
@aprtur
@aprtur 5 ай бұрын
They're not (Honda proved that years ago), but nobody is bothering to attempt to develop that tech further....well...yet, anyway.
@caflet2009
@caflet2009 5 ай бұрын
I think it's tricky and arguably not worth it
@MrSlashStudios
@MrSlashStudios 5 ай бұрын
The Suzuki Swift mild hybrids are also available with a manual transmission (at least here in Europe).
@jameswillard1
@jameswillard1 4 ай бұрын
@@aprturthat’s because Honda pioneers everything and then the Germans take credit. Rear wheel steering on 1988 Prelude, then in 2014 debuts on 911 GT3 Variable Valve Timing early 1990’s for Honda everyone else like a decade later (or more) All Aluminum Construction on 1991 Acura NSX. Porsche 991 generation 911 in 2012 was first to have (only partial) aluminum chassis and body panels Double wishbone suspension on lots of late 1980’s Honda products including Accord/Civic/Prelude/Acura Legend, Integra, and NSX. Porsche debuts it on 992 generation GT3 and everyone loses their shit 🤦🏻‍♂️
@darthnatas953
@darthnatas953 4 ай бұрын
@@jameswillard1 "that’s because Honda pioneers everything and then the Germans take credit." You mean the Germans perfect it.
@TypeTuber
@TypeTuber 5 ай бұрын
Oh my god look how deep the water pump is buried. Plastic impeller too! Couldn’t quite tell from the cutaways but looks like it might be very hard to replace.
@bogdanbosoi1483
@bogdanbosoi1483 5 ай бұрын
The only way you can access the pump is with the oil pan removed, it is a very stupid idea to have 2 one dollar o-rings between the oil and water circuits. It is all about cutting costs, as with the full digital dash. These cars will be good for 5-7 years, after that will be scrap. Even "new" "OEM" spare parts for other older Porsches are cheaply made in India or Pakistan. I sometimes preffer to save and restore old used Porsche parts made 25-30 years ago than buy "new" refurbished junk in Porsche labeled boxes.
@lotsofcurveslover
@lotsofcurveslover 5 ай бұрын
There is no German word for serviceability.
@TeslaRoadtrips
@TeslaRoadtrips 4 ай бұрын
the 2nd owner of these cars better have 30k ready to go for repairs at all times
@benkrapf
@benkrapf 5 ай бұрын
THIS IS THE 992.2 EARLY REVIEW I WAS WAITING FOR.
@frankbregulla564
@frankbregulla564 5 ай бұрын
I am staring enough on digital devices during the whole day, no analog no buy
@peterlaskiewicz8252
@peterlaskiewicz8252 5 ай бұрын
The last non totally digital 911, was the 991 generation. The 991 was be the future 964 everyone will lust after.
@AM-uk7jv
@AM-uk7jv 5 ай бұрын
This is nuts. Electricity spools the turbo initially and then the exhaust gasses essentially spin the turbine to charge the battery or use recuperated energy for the E-Motor. This isn't what I was expecting, and it's quite ingenious.
@mitchellsteindler
@mitchellsteindler 5 ай бұрын
mercedes has been doing it for a while now
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 5 ай бұрын
It's a genius idea, the turbo basically recycles twice. I wonder what efficiency does it have?
@mitchellsteindler
@mitchellsteindler 5 ай бұрын
Correction, i dont think mercedes captures energy from the turbo...
@ariel54cv
@ariel54cv 5 ай бұрын
The only question that matters, what will have a manual transmission available, goes unanswered!
@billnorblat4047
@billnorblat4047 5 ай бұрын
No. There's no manual option anymore
@dielaughing73
@dielaughing73 5 ай бұрын
Unasked..
@JollyGiant19
@JollyGiant19 5 ай бұрын
Manuals are dead, Jim
@TommyPickIes
@TommyPickIes 5 ай бұрын
$160,000? That's it? I'll take 3
@Mark-rt6fy
@Mark-rt6fy 5 ай бұрын
before 30k options and 100k markups
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 5 ай бұрын
​@@Mark-rt6fyonly in America
@shahrukhbakar3248
@shahrukhbakar3248 5 ай бұрын
I just went out and hugged my 991.2 GT3 6MT.
@shahrukhbakar3248
@shahrukhbakar3248 5 ай бұрын
Proven 4.0L H6 naturally aspirated engine. Solid lifters. Manual transmission. Easy to work on. Can buy engine oil M1 0W40 FS at Walmart. Heavy 12V conventional lead-acid battery. Exceptional build quality, fit and finish. Analog gauges, key in ignition. Lots to hug.
@remissiveslave
@remissiveslave 2 ай бұрын
Don't have a Porsche but principle alone, much respect.
@kjyu
@kjyu 5 ай бұрын
He said it.... Analog Tacho gone because of Hybridization....
@aprtur
@aprtur 5 ай бұрын
It's a bullshit reason - if Honda can implement an analog tach in a $20k hybrid CR-Z (with a 6 speed manual), Porsche can figure it out. Seems like an easy scapegoat to just use the Taycan/Panamera screen.
@Melmin
@Melmin 5 ай бұрын
Love that Mark trusts Jack enough to represent the most savage of geese across the pond while Mark holds down the fort
@KevinBurkeRacing
@KevinBurkeRacing 5 ай бұрын
Me upset that the car wont come in manual as if im going to purchase a car made after 2012 by Porsche 😅
@AlbertBerke
@AlbertBerke 5 ай бұрын
My first car was a 1962 Rambler American. Cars have really come a long way. Great interview with 2 Brilliant engineers.
@keadog1838
@keadog1838 5 ай бұрын
Best car site. Great work here. Never say never, but: 1. Hybrid. 2. Push to start. 3. Digital tach. 4. (really #1) No manual. 5. Builds now over $200K with options. All of the above make me feel lucky I just picked up my new '24 Targa 4S that I ordered with the 7 speed. I don't care about sub 3 second 0-60 times and will likely never drive the Nurburgring. I can imagine an open air non hybrid manual transmission car coming in a year or two but only Elvis and Seinfeld will be able to get allocations.
@Closertotruth2
@Closertotruth2 5 ай бұрын
I’ve owned three versions of the 911 in the past 7 years including a GT3. I’ve decided the NA manual mid-engine Porsche cars are better fun street cars. I’ve purchased two of them in the last few years. The 911 is just too big and too heavy for my taste now.
@georger2748
@georger2748 5 ай бұрын
Agree.... after four 911s, I've moved on. Wouldn't have a new one.
@Carado5150
@Carado5150 5 ай бұрын
Thank you. Track times, 0-60? Who cares. Give me an NA anything, manual trans, and a windows down soundtrack. No one cares how fast you are, there's always someone fast. Just have fun.
@porschegt2346
@porschegt2346 5 ай бұрын
@@georger2748every car is bigger now. No way around it with the implementation of modern safety tech and such. Battery tech will only make it even heavier
@Closertotruth2
@Closertotruth2 5 ай бұрын
Took one of them out today. 2021 Spyder manual. Roof down bliss!
@refuztosay9454
@refuztosay9454 5 ай бұрын
Good point. Gt4rs?
@ERTZZTRE
@ERTZZTRE 5 ай бұрын
Such an intelligent ans respectful interview! Thank you very much!
@ferdl7940
@ferdl7940 5 ай бұрын
I’m kind of still liking the last narrow body 991.2! Maybe because I have one and will never sell it
@EvoraGT430
@EvoraGT430 5 ай бұрын
"Narrow", you mean.
@Alva2323
@Alva2323 5 ай бұрын
Maybe just maybe porsche have been at best sidegrades if not downgrades since the 992. Keep yours and cherish it. It's a real cool car that present models just can't match
@scottgabbard662
@scottgabbard662 5 ай бұрын
Can’t ever imagine myself behind the wheel of one of these thoroughbreds but I always enjoy Jack’s video storybook bromance novels with Porsche. Well done as always.
@ProjectVincere
@ProjectVincere 5 ай бұрын
I'm still wondering why this channel hasn't reach 1m subs yet. They are the most detailed car reviewer here on KZbin. smh! Great work Savagegeese!
@heathergreylive
@heathergreylive 5 ай бұрын
Whoa. So the electric motor not only spools the turbo but controls the boost which I assume gives them incredible tuning fidelity. Pretty clever.
@masteringzero
@masteringzero 5 ай бұрын
They should have gone high-revving NA engine with hybrid. The engineer says it is all about performance. However, on the street no one can extract the performance without losing a license. They need to bring back emotion. Also, notice how the standard daytime running lights make the car look like a beetle. No wonder the marketing is only showing the car with upgraded headlights.
@Anti-FreedomD.P.R.ofSouthKorea
@Anti-FreedomD.P.R.ofSouthKorea 5 ай бұрын
All about the numbers ans tech, lesser for experience. When people now lack the capacity to experience an exciting car with an inspirational soundtrack themselves, why should the company target the few that still can?
@MadMike991
@MadMike991 5 ай бұрын
Agree, but I think emissions rules dictate change like it or not. Just buy an older model, I just bought a 987.1. Not the fastest, but it’s a manual, very light, hydaulic steering, and naturally aspirated and you can wring it out on the street. Or get a Cayman 4.0 if you can afford it.
@porschegt2346
@porschegt2346 5 ай бұрын
This is only their base line up… I imagine the next refreshed gt3 will be the 4.0 hyrbridized. Next turbo will probably be bonkers with the same set up as this GTS with twin hybrid turbos.
@nicholasn.2883
@nicholasn.2883 5 ай бұрын
be sneakier
@baileybrewer1172
@baileybrewer1172 5 ай бұрын
I love seeing you guys travel and go to a big launch like this. Y'all are the best at what you do, and deserve all your success.
@DarkClosetOfTheMind
@DarkClosetOfTheMind 5 ай бұрын
More informative than the official announcement. No mention of a manual transmission option or how the car sounds :(.
@d.nakamura9579
@d.nakamura9579 5 ай бұрын
With hybridization, there was never going to be a manual option. Your only hope for a manual is the NA GT cars.
@skirata3144
@skirata3144 5 ай бұрын
@@d.nakamura9579 If we're lucky we could also get another S/T version that unlike the GT cars people can actually buy if they don't already have an extensive history of buying Porsches.
@2failepic
@2failepic 5 ай бұрын
Can't wait to buy the limited edition for 100k more with *checks notes: analog dials.
@stevenagy88
@stevenagy88 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely fabulous video! This from someone unlikely to own a Porache in this lifetime.
@JasonISF
@JasonISF 4 ай бұрын
Yep at $400,000+ AUD only the rich or powerball winners can afford one.
@hotshtsr20
@hotshtsr20 5 ай бұрын
Meanwhile, F1 says the MGU-H has little relevance for road cars and eliminated it from the next ruleset…
@caryg4638
@caryg4638 5 ай бұрын
I guess they weren't thinking about the performance application of it. They assumed that road cars would probably only be trying to gain efficiency, but this car is using it in its current application in F1.
@corystansbury
@corystansbury 5 ай бұрын
​@@caryg4638Mercedes themselves already have it on the road and they are in F1. Seems silly to me. I think it's all about sound and they didn't want to claim something purely emotional.
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 5 ай бұрын
F1 always does the dumbest decisions
@nandakrishnakesavapuram5758
@nandakrishnakesavapuram5758 5 ай бұрын
It's Porsche who made them drop it.
@jerrywarren2007
@jerrywarren2007 5 ай бұрын
Where is the out take with Jack flexing his muscles saying over and over that his Z06 is better?
@jackholmes8105
@jackholmes8105 5 ай бұрын
👀
@davids1816
@davids1816 5 ай бұрын
You guys are here for the tech, I'm here for zee Gehrmuhn accents :). Congrats to the channel for getting access like this!
@heinrichgerhardt6119
@heinrichgerhardt6119 5 ай бұрын
It's funny how Germans pronounce an English W as a V and a V as a W.
@davids1816
@davids1816 5 ай бұрын
@@heinrichgerhardt6119 I teach German and I can hear the German words in their minds when they make little harmless but typical mistakes.
@dammyo6010
@dammyo6010 5 ай бұрын
What a great video. I'm not a huge Porsche fan but their technical proficiency is undeniable!
@Driven-Productions
@Driven-Productions 5 ай бұрын
So happy they invited you all out to do your deep dives! You guys are the best in the review business and always enjoy watching the content. Loving that new 532 HP and Porsche’s take on hybridization in the GTS. Bring on part 2!
@zenkoz3158
@zenkoz3158 5 ай бұрын
If I had one it'd be a matter of days before I had the prior generation front bumper on it
@hyperbomb02
@hyperbomb02 5 ай бұрын
Jack is in his Sunday best. He looks like the Gorilla door guard in Who Framed Roger Rabbit.
@Carado5150
@Carado5150 5 ай бұрын
Who framed Roger rabbit was my favorite movie as a kid along with the dirt bike kid and herbie the love bug. Definitely watching it later.
@RyanSheppard
@RyanSheppard 5 ай бұрын
Really appreciate the clarity of explanations of the concepts involved here, specifically the electric turbo
@cultofmodernism8477
@cultofmodernism8477 5 ай бұрын
Remember when Acura did this with the NSX and everyone shit on it as being too heavy with bad sound? I remember.
@andrewb.3902
@andrewb.3902 5 ай бұрын
Gonna be a game changer performance wise. but all that intricacy in the powertrain has got to be so expensive to replace if fails. But hey- that’s why I buy Toyotas and just live vicariously thru Mark and Jack
@geraldbennett7035
@geraldbennett7035 5 ай бұрын
In other news, Today Porsche announced that oil and coolant changes will be engine out
@Eldaino999
@Eldaino999 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic presentation and editing guys. And honestly good on Porsche for always being so down to talk to yall frankly. It’s refreshing to see.
@ehh2681
@ehh2681 4 ай бұрын
“Recharging the battery happens at max RPM, and when the engine is at full load, first time it’s been done in any automotive application.” “Yes, exactly” *Toyota Camry, Prius, every other hybrid known to man enters the chat*
@salktone
@salktone 5 ай бұрын
Great work as always!! Disappointed they went to a fully digital cluster but that's how it is...
@geemiami6251
@geemiami6251 5 ай бұрын
Great journalism. Awesome video
@harris7963
@harris7963 5 ай бұрын
This was a pleasure to watch!
@GrayHuska
@GrayHuska 5 ай бұрын
Shout out to Porsche for having it on the configurator day of launch - BMW & Mercedes really gotta work on their 3+ month delays.
@kurse7551
@kurse7551 5 ай бұрын
Shout out Jack and Marc always putting out fire vids with great technical data included.
@Gentleman...Driver
@Gentleman...Driver 5 ай бұрын
Poor Swabian guy. He was so shy. And his "schwäbele"-English was so cute. I wanted to give him a hug. 🥺 Kudos to him to come to talk to you in front of a camera. He wasnt used to it, but he managed to give us valuable information.
@PaulKarchut
@PaulKarchut 5 ай бұрын
Jack, great to see you doing these interviews and you’re so darn knowledgeable but you gotta stop making a statement and then saying “correct” at the end to make it into a question. A million other ways to form an interview question. Keep it up though, guys.
@jonathanwilson4171
@jonathanwilson4171 5 ай бұрын
I will keep my 718 GT4 with 3 pedals.
@r2dad282
@r2dad282 5 ай бұрын
your family might sell it after your funeral. maybe. but that's a classic, no need to upgrade until your knee gives out.
@kszendi
@kszendi 5 ай бұрын
Great video and work guys!!!! Top notch as usual!😊
@badhobz1
@badhobz1 5 ай бұрын
Wowowowo a brand new Porsche engine. That’s synonymous with reliability right ?! Right ?
@floodo1
@floodo1 5 ай бұрын
My favorite part of the current F1 engine regs is the electrified turbo (KERS-H), cool to see it here on a Porsche!
@fzr1000981
@fzr1000981 5 ай бұрын
I think they take Jack more seriously (no offense Mark haha). Great work guys, and the AFR under boost is incredible
@Riverguide33
@Riverguide33 5 ай бұрын
This is a no-nonsense review….well done, Jack. Oh….you too, Mark.
@Jordan_Schiefer
@Jordan_Schiefer 5 ай бұрын
Dang I thought this was the old 911 until I realized I missed the title
@billydanzz
@billydanzz 5 ай бұрын
Next level videos and interviews! "RELEASE THE GEESE!"
@Mario-lj7gm
@Mario-lj7gm 4 ай бұрын
All this high tech would be great if it came with a 10-year warranty.
@dannoyes4493
@dannoyes4493 5 ай бұрын
Leave it to SavageGeese to actually discuss real details of the new 911 Thank you. Well Done.
@bearclaw5115
@bearclaw5115 5 ай бұрын
This is peak internal combustion engine. Just looking at it boggles my mind. Incredible engineering for sure.
@snikwadRR
@snikwadRR 5 ай бұрын
Maybe I missed it, but what happens when the battery runs out of juice? Do you lose e power and e turbo boost?
@immanuelo.9548
@immanuelo.9548 5 ай бұрын
I feel robbed. Every car reviewer should have a background in engineering, this was a fantastic interview!
@yawdankwa1903
@yawdankwa1903 3 ай бұрын
Silverback JACK becomes the corporate JACK....loving the outfit jack❤❤
@lkjh00on89
@lkjh00on89 5 ай бұрын
My dream car(s) never involved Porsche until I started watching SavageGeese videos on Porsches. You guys have thoroughly convinced me these things are special. I don’t think I’ll ever be able to afford one, but if I win the lotto, Porsche will be on my short list. Now, if you guys could just convince Porsche to make a budget model that’s in the same price range as the Miata, I’ll be at the front of the line to buy one.
@cbotten106
@cbotten106 5 ай бұрын
The complexity of that oiling system is daunting. Semi dry sump with directed oil as needed? Typical German solution. Man, this thing is really loaded with new tech. Very similar to the eRay Vette on the hot lap strategy stuff on max attack. Sounds like a pretty thorough overhaul.
@xzst
@xzst 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing a deep dive on the tech and not clicking through the infotainment like other reviewers do!
@josephkelly4893
@josephkelly4893 5 ай бұрын
Look how small the skirt is on that piston!!! This new engine will just sing!!! What a beautiful thing to witness
@lkjh00on89
@lkjh00on89 5 ай бұрын
Great video guys. Camera work was on point (thought the car was CGI for a few seconds there). And great interview as well. Was very interesting to learn about that hybrid system.
@peakinearly_2788
@peakinearly_2788 5 ай бұрын
Wow thats how hybrid engines are done right! Keep the weight down and improve on power and responsiveness off the drivetrain. Well done Jack and Porsche!
@artjomslivenskis429
@artjomslivenskis429 5 ай бұрын
The level of detail. WOW!
@lukewalker1051
@lukewalker1051 5 ай бұрын
The new hybrid 911 isn't about how the car will drive. It is about what the car will cost to maintain after warranty as the electronics, from 100 computers to allow electric and gas powertrains to seamlessly produce power begin to fail, including motor inverter and Li-Ion battery outside of warranty when its on the customer's dime and not Porsche's. Honorable mention to electric turbocharger and electric AC compressor. Hybrids throughout the industry exist for one reason alone, 2.5 x's the complexity of ICE only automobiles which translates to long term profit for automakers. Selling exclusive, proprietary parts out of warranty for a car with two powertrains versus one if you can even find a mechanic smart enough to repair this car which btw will not be at an independent mechanic. Porsche would never allow the proprietary computer diagnostic capability to filter to mechanics outside the Porsche dealer network as it would be cost prohibitive for independents to own this diagnostic capability. As to driving dynamics, power to weight will only be fractionally better, if at all. Reason is weight. Hybrids are heavy which has a handling cost as well. Anybody who has driven a $200K modern ICE Porsche is blown away by the performance. High end ICE Porsches have astounding performance. A new hybrid Porsche isn't about performance. It is about cost to the consumer short and long term which translates to profit. The Germans invented this business model of overengineering their cars for planned obsolescence and extract more money from customers for greater profit. PS. a bone stock 2018 Chevy Camaro ZL1 1LE beats this Porsche around the Nürburgring in 7:16.04 for 1/3 the price with of course only a gas engine, a much more powerful gas engine which btw an average mechanic can repair.
@MJSEN
@MJSEN 5 ай бұрын
Great work as always guys, also good to hear an AI Jack cameo for the round-off at the end
@dannyphamous
@dannyphamous 5 ай бұрын
Amazing coverage on the new Porsche!
@PropDeskJunkie
@PropDeskJunkie 5 ай бұрын
Loved the video. Jack, great question on battery capacity when running on a track. I caught they were at 100% at the start and about 0 when the lap finished. For the rest of us mortals doing HPDEs, would the battery last a 25 minute session at like AutoBahn Club or Road America? How long does it take to then get the battery back to 100%?
@thewhitecarrot
@thewhitecarrot 5 ай бұрын
Channel so good now that I don’t get the 5sec skip option on ads.
@BrennanLetkeman
@BrennanLetkeman 5 ай бұрын
at some point it's interesting that it's still an exhaust-based turbo at all - seems like you could just make an e-supercharger and then package it anywhere? including at the front of the car entirely for weight and space reasons
@ChurchAutoTest
@ChurchAutoTest 5 ай бұрын
The point is to recover otherwise wasted exhaust energy. Boosting overall efficiency
@ddrennon
@ddrennon 5 ай бұрын
Y'all brought the A-game for this review, gentlemen. Very well done indeed.
@the007p7
@the007p7 5 ай бұрын
I'll keep my 992.1 analogue tacho that weights 50kgs less and makes that extra 60hp with just free flowing exhaust. 😅 Maybe jump into hybrid next generation once they iron out the platform and tuning scence catches up.
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