2025 Ram 1500 *V6* Pentastar Review: Should You Buy a New Truck With An Old Engine?

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[@RJ-hv6fr]

Dumb

[@greghale717]

Zeigler has the same prices and has been around longer!

[@Snappydadshoes]

64k...for a big horn, cloth interior, and the base engine. What are we even doing anymore?

[@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix]

My brother is getting a 2024 titan pro4x qith every option brand new for 47k on the dealer website. Heated and cooled leather seats, 360 degree cameras, fender audio, panoramic roof, adjustable LED headlights, and a 5.6 v8 with no cylinder deactivation/active fuel management and no auto stop/start. It has every option available. Nissan has knocked of t9ns of money on the 2024s so you can actually get a fully decked out platinum reserve for 50k. That's less than a stripped down cloth interior truck from the big 3, amd that bumper to bumper 5yr 100k mile warranty doesn't hurt either.

[@Snappydadshoes]

@@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix it's a good deal for sure. But only because they have been discontinued.

[@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix]

@Snappydadshoes that is true, and It is the last real V8 with no cylinder deactivation/active fuel management and no auto start/stop and after 2024 they're gone.

[@lawrencefranck9417]

@@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrixgood luck getting parts when they close up shop.

[@JogBird]

ram is a luxury brand.. its a bargain compared to MB or BMW

[@PEWannabee]

64k for underpowered engine pickup. what a world we are living in

[@beachbumlife]

This channel is the top clown truck channel on KZbin. They said if your not spending 65k with a worse engine then you poor

[@upshifter5316]

Exactly, this spec compares to a midsize since $10k -$14k comes right off the top. You get much more room and sophistication, and you don’t have to spec it this high. And most importantly, no turbo 4 popper.

[@robertchapman4488]

You should boycott advertising or reviewing any of these new trucks until they get back under $45,000

[@MattchooBob]

@@robertchapman4488you’ll be waiting a long time.

[@UnyonRing]

I don’t disagree that it’s overpriced but 20 years ago this also would not have been considered underpowered. This makes more power than a 2004 f150 with the 5.4L

[@ruyguy8888]

I've got a 2023 classic with the pentastar. It's not a speedster, but hauls my 16ft flatdeck and 4000lb tractor anywhere i need to use it. It's my to and from wok daily driver with 22 to 25MPG on the highway. I'm happy with it.

[@gbw42]

You have the 3.55 or 3.21 gear ratio?

[@ruyguy8888]

@@gbw42 3.55. is what is in mine

[@PKDesigns2011]

My express had same, def. agree woulda liked tad more actual torque on it but over all neat truck

[@andrewlemke2669]

Right on! pentastar is all you need for 90% of truck stuff. Daily driving it is unbeatable for a full sized truck.

[@Mattmorro67]

Does yours rattle & ping like a mf? Especially after idling for awhile like 10 mins? Gotta 2023 1500 at work that sounds like it's dragging a bunch of tin cans about 90% of the time.

[@rockymountainjazzfan1822]

At $64K, these trucks will sit on the dealer lots largely unsold (and they already are).

[@ohioguy4326]

You can get 10K off right now

[@channell11]

He's got to be talking Canadian dollars. In US $ that's around 47K, and dealers are discounting them to closer to 40.

[@LongWalker730]

@@channell11A 2025 4x4 tradesman with a pentastar v6 starts at $46k with zero options. A few basic options like tow stuff balloons it to $60k.

[@wileycoyote556]

They are absolutely not being sold for 64k, the discounts are easily 10k

[@jizzyjake6783]

Peanuts

[@zl1_eric888]

That should be a 40k truck all day long

[@alexlauria4076]

28K-32K max

[@RJ-hv6fr]

Bingo!!! Bring back the W/T style trucks.

[@987654321wormy]

Even smaller trucks are in that $40K range, it's crazy.

[@ricodog3652]

Nice but not great.

[@yeoldmetalhead6592]

10-15k

[@rogergarner6617]

I have a 2014 RAM 1500 that I purchased brand new with the V6. I now have 135,000 miles on the truck and have been pleased with the V6. Typical MPG is 21 to 23 in warm weather and 19 in the winter. In 2014 my truck's MSRP was $40,000.

[@overbuiltautomotive1299]

same as my 5.4l ford mpg for most part

[@jamesspringer-rj3iq]

I would trust the reliability of the Pentastar over the Hurricane any day.

[@trykuct]

What are you talkimg about ? This engine is garbage. I had 2 promazters vans . Engine started to knock around 60k in both of them . My buddys 2018 cherokee engine died at 80k . Complete garbage

[@bestman7776]

@@trykuctmy Pacifica minivan had 195k miles on it before I sold it. I also towed a camper with it occasionally

[@JonKmoos]

My 300 has over 140k on it and never had any issues

[@ivancliff2514]

They both come with a warranty though so why wouldn’t you just get the TT?

[@G.B.P.1999]

​@@JonKmoos300s V6 are very bulletproof!

[@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix]

That truck is grossly overpriced but it will also satisfy the needs of 99% of truck buyers.

[@ubeuonly]

Ford and chevy equipped the same are within 1k of this price

[@PKDesigns2011]

@@ubeuonly yup and all 3 are over price for the quality they offer

[@completelylucid7596]

@@ubeuonlyLol not even close dude with Chevy you can get an rst with a baby duramax that has leather seats for 65k and with ford you’re in tremor territory at this price range. For reference this is coming from a guy who has a 2022 ram 1500 lol. But price wise by far and away ram is the worst of the three at the moment imo

[@ubeuonly]

@@completelylucid7596 do a but of research. U will find that they are all close similarly equipped. Also dicounted

[@IKnewMickey]

It's enough truck for many ppl. I'd buy it rn if it cost $40,000

[@chriss1757]

True, the NA V6 is all the truck most owners ever need.

[@MichaelSmith-kr9qw]

Get out there in look lots of great deals to be had !!!

[@tylerproctor4878]

Yes. Bought mine for 33500. Mines a tradesman quad cab 4×4 with a tow package. I bet you could still beat 40k if you tried.​@@MichaelSmith-kr9qw

[@Tylnorton]

@@chriss1757 I agree. I have a 2017 Ram 1500 SLT with the V6, it's a great engine. It doesn't even struggle at all getting up to speed

[@thomasthurston6656]

You're behind the times.

[@tritchie6272]

They should bring the Dakota back and start off with the Pentestar in the Dakota. Since its a motor they already have that might help keep cost down. And for a midsize that should be decent power.

[@chriss1757]

I would buy this.

[@DarthNero]

They won’t bring it back due to the midsize segment being saturated by 7 other brands. It will be hard to compete in. Plus they can’t have it cannibalise Gladiator sales (with the pentastar V6) which is already the midsize offering from Stellantis. Instead, the most profitable & sensible truck that they could make is a sub $30k compact, unibody truck with AWD that can compete with the Maverick . That’s where they are more likely sell a lot and succeed long term.

[@Anonihmus2567]

​@@DarthNero they would just bring the rampage up from Brazil

[@thecrazyroker69]

@@DarthNeroi agree but they can make a sub 30k mini truck and still call it a dakota, we have seen worse, i.e the new chevy blazer crossover

[@billredding2000]

@@DarthNero True...I like the Pentastar in my mid-size-truck segment Jeep Gladiator. Plenty of power for my needs (and wants). And I liek the easily-reachable oil-filter and alternator (both on top). And being a 3rd Generation Pentastar, it should be pretty decent by now durability-wise. I'll take it! Well, I have to: It came with the Gladiator. -- BR

[@gregc9220]

At least the pentastar V6 still has a engine oil dipstick 😁

[@AStanton1966]

Yeah, but that oil filter still stinks.

[@ubeuonly]

@@gregc9220 many German brands did away with those 10 years ago

[@is6566]

For those saying pentastar is a bad engine. An engine review site says this: Pentastar 3.6 reliability is way above average. It is time-tested well enough, and over 10 million Pentastar engines were produced to date. Despite that they had some issues early on, the 3.6L V6 Pentastar is great, durable, one of the most reliable engines available on the market right now. With proper maintenance, the 3.6 Pentastar engine longevity is around 250-300k miles (there are even a few cases of the Pentastar last up to impressive 500,000 miles).

[@tinshield]

Correct. They are great engines. It’s all use case. I ended up with a 22 Hemi but I did have a 3.6 with the 2017 I had. Never has an issue and the majority of the time I didn’t want for more power.

[@is6566]

@tinshield In addition, this webpage I copied from is at least 5 years old. In the meantime they sold probably another 4 million or so 3.6 L Pentastar engines. So there are about 14 million such engines produced so far over 13 years (since 2011).

[@bryandevries7210]

There are a couple of parts I would change that were a constant problem for me, but overall, they are pretty reliable.

[@is6566]

@bryan…. What were the parts? And what model year(s) had the problems?

[@brucevrooman6107]

That v6 is the last thing that would fail on that vehicle. Too bad so many are stuck on huge engines, just to drive to work, or to soccer practice.

[@jeepguy04]

They have that truck for 39,000 with discounts where I live no one is paying that much for that truck full price

[@taylorsvilletony773]

Send it up the "Toaster".

[@BloodAlwaysFindsItsLevel]

Exactly the SST 3.0 already beat the ford and GM.

[@mrmoparrr]

😂

[@DurtyKahuna]

I love all the V6 coverage. Mine has been awesome, I do all maintenence myself and has been mostly easy work

[@melvinjacobs2328]

I would trust the 3.6 Pentastar over the Hurricane.

[@jaywattman199]

And hopefully you still get an oil dipstick

[@melvinjacobs2328]

@@jaywattman199 LOL. Really.

[@devn3813]

The 3.6 is very reliable

[@melvinjacobs2328]

@@devn3813 I know. I've had 4 cars with the engine. Never a problem.

[@SituationalAwareness17]

I saw a segment on the proving grounds for the hurricane. They beat the piss out of it, I think it will be a solid engine.

[@chriswadlington2465]

I have owned my 2024 for 5 months. The most I tow is 4000 pounds. Absolutely no complaints . Luv the great mpg when not towing.

[@stevenkeffer5196]

I have a 2013 Tradesman Regular cab 6.3 bed with the 3.6. It now has 352,800 miles. I have been towing a 6,000 lb Coachmen camper. The 8 speed drops to 3rd gear on 2 mile upgrades in the mountains of West Virginia. I had some issues with sway due to the short wheel base that was resolved with Reese Dual Cam sway control. It's been a great truck. With the price of new I am going to shoot for 500,000 miles.

[@Brunoinski]

I just drove 165 highway mile and averaged 21.9 MPG. My truck is a 2023 Ram Laramie with a HEMI

[@tfourk]

@@leecrumble3921 Crap, I get 14.1 mpg with the 4x4 model.

[@yamaha450rchristian5]

How fast were you going?

[@MoparDan]

I watched this review because of the title mentioning Chrysler’s Pentastar engine. I own the first generation of this engine in my ‘12 Chrysler 200 Touring convertible. The engine only has 76,000 miles currently. I didn’t have any leaks with oil cooler/oil filter housing but I replaced that anyway with the aluminum housing from Dorman OE solutions. I also added the Baxter Performance canister filter to spin on oil filter adapter. This prevents monetary dry starts as the original canister filter drains down after the vehicle sits for more than twenty minutes. My mid size car gets about 32 miles per gallon on the highway with the Ultradrive 6-speed transaxle. The best thing a owner can do for maintenance is not let the oil stay in the engine as long as manufacturers recommend. I change my oil in my Pentastar every 3,000 to 4,000 miles and I use Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5W-30.

[@AStanton1966]

That oil filter/cooling housing let go on our 2017 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk as we were tooling down the road. We lost 5 quarts of oil before check engine came on. The Jeep had approximately 70,000 miles. It happened right after a severe cold snap where we went to -8 degree F. That's when they seem to let out.

[@kindafast6499]

I love my 1500 V6. I’ve towed boats, equipment, hauled all sorts of stuff. Better on fuel. Forget that 60-70k mess. You can find brand new ones for high 30s low 40s.

[@jimtipton8888]

I'm on my 2nd Ram 1500 Pentastar. Company trucks. Lots of road miles and the engine gets along just fine.

[@jimharris4866]

I'm old enough to remember when a base, 6 cylinder truck was perfectly good. Underpowered, but solid and reliable, while being cheap to buy, own, and maintain. I bet I could find $10-15k of unnecessary gizmos and doo dads on any new truck. I guess there aren't enough of us who want a truck that's under $1000 a month.

[@damilolaakanni]

If you trust the reliability of the Pentastar V6 but want something new looking, yeah, go for it. That aside, this is what Toyota should have done with the new Tundra, offer the engine(s) from the previous generation alongside the new ones.

[@anthonysantos2863]

Thanks!

[@timdoyon1964]

I bought a 2023 Ram 1500 with the pentastar V-6 and e-Torque system. I paid $34k for it as it was a dealer demo… I just rolled over 20k miles on it and I am super satisfied with it. I don’t haul big equipment with it, or anything like that, but it has the towing package and I can carry a load of plywood with no problem. It is by far the best truck I’ve ever owned.

[@chadmiller6487]

Why would people pay those money for a 1/2 ton when you can literally get a 3/4 ton for the same price?

[@ScoobyFermentation]

Why get a 3/4 ton when you can literally get a 1 ton for the same price?

[@chadmiller6487]

@@ScoobyFermentation 😆 💯 agree..

[@tylerproctor4878]

Cause they want all them features baby. Gotta have the lane assist and the leather heated/cooled seats

[@thomasward4505]

Because half tons are generally quieter and ride smoother and get better gas mileage. A half ton does fine doing occasional heavy loads but if you have a work truck that is constantly loaded with material or towing a trailer always get a 3/4 ton at least

[@martinmjm]

And that’s a really low payload, most f150’s and Silverado’s are right about 2000 lbs payload vs this 1400.

[@cheapme1850]

The 3.6 V6 is perfectly capable of carrying around a bed full of nothing while towing absolutely nothing, just like 90% of most pickups.

[@offtracktraveler1]

Paid 30k in july 2018 for my new 2018 Ram quad cab express with the 3.6, 4x4, 3.55 gears. Only have 24k miles on it. It's been a great truck, no issues other than a drive shaft recall. 23 to 25 mpg on trips with lots of long hills and mountain country. Works great for me, and my dog loves the luxury of his full back seat area with the seat folded up.

[@Brandon0341]

Just bought this truck 2025 Ram 1500 big horn night shade crew cab with big horn level 2 for 47k. It’s a beautiful and I don’t tow anything it is perfect for my daily commute.

[@PomptonFresh]

I have a 2018 ram with the 3.6 and I love it. I have 100k and pull my boat 15 miles round trip to the ramp at 7500lbs no problem.

[@luisrazi]

My Pentastar has logged 69k averaging 19-20 MPG with 0 problems. It’s not a luxury worthy engine but for work like in my case it’s the best tool anybody could have with all the Ram comfort and ride. Panning to buy an additional with a Pentastar before they’re gone.

[@WilliamsonRidge]

I know everyone seems to think they need the most powerful engines etc, but let’s not forget the trucks in the eighties were getting the job done , we had an 88 F250 with the 5.0 v8 which had only 188hp and hauled a camper in the bed and pulled a boat on all our vacations just fine. So even this v6 has more power than the trucks of old, is it worth 64k? nope sure isn’t.

[@devn3813]

But trucks didn’t weigh 6,000 lbs back then

[@ronaldbarnes8302]

New truck prices are ridiculous, but so are prices on everything. Drove a rental Ram 1500 with a 3.6 while my Hemi Ram was getting body work done due to a tree branch falling on the bed. Ran fine, 2-3 more MPG than the Hemi. Now own a Gladiator with the 3.6, love it. The only thing I miss is the sweet Hemi sound.

[@carlostavaresjr958]

I was just talking to someone today about this and the have a NA motor for the long term is more reliable then the turbos engines. I love turbos but my vehicle has 205K miles on it with no turbos and less breakdowns from turbo failures. The Penstar v6 is a great engine and should be Stellanis base engine for years to come!

[@C10sRule]

Turbo failures are not guaranteed, even at 200,000 + miles. My buddy has a Ford dealership and there are original turbos in 300,000 mile 3.5s & especially 2.7s. At 150,000 miles there’s less than 20% failure. I would be more concerned about the timing chains & cam phasers in the 3.5 AND 5.0 N/A failing first😮. Don’t just repeat what others say, look into the source. Get the facts vs the hearsay that’s all over the internet. Choosing a 3.6 V6 over the base 3.0 SST?? Never!! The hp & torque just don’t compare, drive ability, no comparison, enjoyment, no comparison. If you work the truck and/or tow more than 2,000 lbs, then the V6 is a no go, period. I am willing to bet the I6 turbo may even last better than the V6 turbos out there!!

[@TheQuixotic1]

I'm seeing fully loaded Laramie trims at $71k MSRP marked down to $55k currently.

[@banginsteel4978]

Have the same equipped truck. 2022 1/2 ton with 3:55 axle, use it to tow my boat, which weighs 4200#. Has no problems. Straight hiway at 70 mph I got 22.8 mpg, hand calced. Love the truck. Might add, I bought the truck in 2023. It was a dealer demo with 8000 miles for 33k.

[@paul56419]

My brother bought a new ram with a pentaster last year and it does what he needs it to do. He works for a marine supply company and delievers the odd propeller with max weight of about 500lbs and he pulls his 6000lbs sail boat to then from the yacht club 20 minutes away twice a year.

[@stevenalexander5603]

I have the pentastar in my 2023 ram classic and I love it works great for me

[@mot1343]

Having owned several Pentastars and without any issues, I hope it has a future. Not interested in their turbocharged and direct injection engines.

[@andrewlemke2669]

Pentastar is a good engine. It's an overhead cam that means you have to rev it to get it's power. Totally different torqueband than a pushrod engine. What is 0-60 speed anyway who drives like that. If you want a low 0-60 speed electric is unbeatable. Power and torque too.

[@Dusdaddy]

If people were honest, this would be the ideal full-size for most people. It has more payload and the same towing as my Ram Hemi. It also solves the problem everyone has with the turbos. Can't complain about the e-torque either. It does make the auto start/stop smoother at least.

[@Firebird400]

Yes, but it doesn’t give you any room to grow. People rarely need less truck as life goes on to a certain extent.

[@Lq32332]

@@Firebird400People barely need a truck at all. 9 out of 10 people just commute to the office, shopping , etc. You could rent a truck the 2 times a year you use the bed or tow. The amount of clean bed lifted diesels in my office parking lot says it all. 😂

[@brucevrooman6107]

@@Lq32332 I tend to agree. And the lifted ones with big rubber, all have BIG BAD engines. Takes a lot of power to get to the office you know...LOL. As for renting a pickup......here in Canada, they never seem to have hitches on them, I suppose they don't want you to do any towing.

[@Dusdaddy]

@@Firebird400 Not really. Less than 1% need anything larger, ever. Outside of commercial users, only an individual wanting to tow a massive RV would need to "grow".

[@jrparker4804]

I hear what you’re saying. But if people were honest, cars and trucks are for getting from point A to B. Unfortunately, that’s not why most people buy new cars. My Hemi truck growls when I start it up and there is zero chance I trade it for a sewing machine V6. I park it next to my Corvette, which also growls. Having no option for a V8 will kill Ram trucks. It’s almost like nobody is buying them now (they aren’t).

[@adam-to5re]

I absolutely am considering this truck in the future. I've been looking at Mavericks and other than size and fuel economy this truck offers so much more and I only really need to tow my boat which is 3,000 lb. And I feel for the price this is a great truck.

[@chiefrainingstereotype.4184]

I’m in the maverick or 3.6 ram camp too. Tough call, but am leaning towards the ram. More room, towing not as hard on it.

[@adam-to5re]

@@chiefrainingstereotype.4184 I mean I've seen used Ram 2022s with less than 30k miles for $33k that's a hell of a deal if you're looking at $37/38k maverick

[@chiefrainingstereotype.4184]

@@adam-to5re agreed, the price is prob quite comparable. I like the idea of having a naturally aspirated engine over a turboed one for longevity, MPFI is also preferable to direct injected engines in my books, no carbon on the intake valve issues. Sure fuel burn is the major difference among the two, but the 3.6 gets pretty impressive mileage for what it is

[@jeepguy04]

@@adam-to5re u should look at the frontier that’s what I’m buying next year

[@canopener505ify]

I was first in the market for a Maverick in 2022. But after being frustrated by markups I bought a used Ram instead. Similar price point, bigger bed, more room for family. I don't regret my decision yet.

[@jameseroh6544]

My wife had a 2014 Ram 1500 Crewcab 4wd 3.21 ratio 3.6L. She towed some less than 5k# trailers okay. But she traded that truck in for a 2018 Ram 2500 Crewcab 4wd 3.42 ratio 6.7L Cummins. They both have the same fuel economy. I have driven a 3.55 ratio, and own a 2016 Ecodiesel with a 3.92 ratio. And believe the 4.56 ratio would work the best. I live in a mountainous area of California, and drive the whole State. But have traveled all over the Continental USA too. I don't drive 80mph very often. 60-65 is fast enough for a balance between good fuel economy and travel time.

[@ranteumptom7345]

Just bought a used 2021 Bighorn 4x4 pentastar 3.6 still under factory warranty for $27,500. It’s a good truck. It’ll do what I need.

[@jamespenner1412]

It's probably one of the most reliable gas engines on the market right now. For most ppl this truck would be all they need.

[@stevekniess3665]

1994 ram was around 220 hp 290 flb of torque.

[@jameseroh6544]

Was that the 5.2L or 5.9L?

[@rjolly87]

Yes.... but also at least 1500lbs lighter.

[@christopher9626]

Yup. Got a 98 1500 5.9 in the driveway and I love the damn thing

[@Cali_Slav96]

@@jameseroh65445.2

[@PEWannabee]

so ?. what was the price back then ?

[@JRs-guitars]

For the record...he's talking about MSRP. I found trucks identical to this in Vegas for $52k. Same packages and options.

[@Fin.mint.]

I used to sell Fords. Had a guy come and attempt to trade a very similar Ram. He had bought it new for around 60. The KBB value on trade was 34k. It was difficult to tell him nicely.

[@csinalabama73]

I bought my Longhorn V6 in '19 for 33k. It's a great truck for 33k. I remember people not wanting F-150's with a 4.6L or GM cars with the "weak" 3800 V6. But, all these 3 engines are reliable and will last a long time. Is it a great truck for 64k? Nah. The makers are crazy.

[@jamesmyers9285]

I like the cloth interiors and this is especially nice. Good looking truck, all I need, nothing more in power or towing/payload.

[@gmlover82]

Crazy but 20 years ago this engine had more power than the top engines from the Big Three, hp that is. Insane how much things have changed

[@poppyneese1811]

I can’t say how this engine does in the truck, but in 35 1/2 years as a on the road sales rep I had probably 15 to 20 Dodge Caravans with most having the 3.6’s and never had the first engine problem, we’d get a new one about every 110k and the Caravans were not a heavy as this truck, they were pretty heavy loaded.

[@joeb2588]

I really like this truck. What worries me the most is that Stellantis is not doing well, and there's a lot of news regarding layoffs at the factory where this is built. Im afraid moral is low and the employees are not going to care about the job there doing...and theyll be QC issues i dont have time to deal with. This would be the truck i would consider though. Its plenty for me.

[@KevinB-d7t]

I believe the layoffs are on the line making the old classic trucks since they are discontinued for next year. Not the current models. But not saying they aren't struggling, all of them are struggling because they are all 50% overpriced. I won't buy another new truck again....ever

[@joeb2588]

@@KevinB-d7t yah, it's crazy "what you get" when you look at the price...

[@91_C4_FL]

If you’re not regularly towing, the Pentastar is a fine engine. However, as good as the eTorque sounds on paper, it broke on my cousin’s Ram while still under warranty. I love the idea of a hybrid truck, but RAM needs to work it a little more.

[@catztruck929]

That was an unfortunate isolated case when u look at it’s over all stats. That engine is fine. It’s used in all their pro master vans. Even before that. Been around for a long time.

[@jeffjohnson2273]

After all the issues with the 3.6 in my jeep (4 camshafts and $2,600 of lifters in 80,000 miles), i didn't even look at a Ram with a V6. Test drove a 2025 with an I6. I couldn't imagine that poor little motor would be very long for this world with the RPMs i had to make it turn. Bought a 2020 Ram with a 5.7.

[@ryanmartinage]

$64k for a pentastar.... what.... why does this exist???

[@jrparker4804]

I agree 100%! Terrible.

[@azmindspin311]

They are selling this brand new for $36k at my local dealership.

[@buleyauto]

Because corporations are greedy and the general public is stupid and gullible.

[@eliteexposure5594]

This truck is $20k more than my Fully loaded Nissan Frontier and the Ram also has less HP and TQ than my little ol truck too 😂😂😂...

[@rogerkiell5743]

I have a V6 ram 6800 pound tow rating lots of power. I've owned it 5 years no issues at all.

This engine would be more than most people need while using the truck. I had a 3.7 F-150 and l loved it!

[@democracyforone]

Id buy it for $27k.

[@shawnystixify]

I bought a used 2020 ram v6 bighorn 4x4 2 yrs ago for $34k had 30k miles on it so far no problems

[@Parker53151]

Alternatively, you could buy a new truck with a new engine. That’s risky, though, ask anyone who bought a new Tundra with the new V6 engine. This truck is okay for use as a daily driver for someone who doesn’t use a truck for work , towing, or hauling. A coffee shop truck, in other words.

[@atg1338]

I got a new 22 Tundra 4x4 put 92k on it with no problems at all. Now i have a 24 with 12k on it with no problems. The internet clowns over blow everything.

[@Parker53151]

@@atg1338 Toyota just recalled 102,000 units in order to replace the engines. That’s not overblown.

[@tylerproctor4878]

​@Parker53151 I got one of these and I put it to work. I hual rock and pull trailer several days a week

[@lionkills1]

@@Parker53151 Yeah Toyota did a massive recall to replace engines due to machine debris inside the engine. I personally will still get the Tundra, it is designed well overall and now glad Toyota was willing to replace the engines. I think Nissan Titan are also budget option with great reliable v8.

[@dannyslayer]

This is far from a coffee shop truck. You see plenty of these V6 rams doing work duty for Plumber's, Electrician's, and other tradesmen. I haul my 2500 lb boat hours to different lakes. It is not fast, but it does the job. In the end this is a truck, not a sports car.

[@vackyvlada1]

Pentastar V 6 3.55, is all you need. Towed 6000lbs camp trailer, 4 people, luggage... Pulls with no problem, enough torque and speed. Pentastar is OHC 4 valve per cylinder. Let it rev high, engine likes it that way. I have flex fuel type, with E85 and short air intake, engine is absolute blast. For 100$ put airbags in coils , no squads ,like you are riding Lincoln. No need V8 push rod on this chassis, yes on 2500. Yes V6, I approve this message 😁

[@DJ2226]

Keeping the Pentastar while dropping the Hemi is still a head-scratcher for me. I know this may sound nutty, but I kinda wish they would have updated the Hemi and made a V6 out of it to offer in the refreshed 1500 in place of the Pentastar and made a V8 out of the Pentastar to offer in the Classic in place of its Hemi. It would have killed multiple birds with one stone. The Classic could have been a more true entry-level truck for light-duty stuff, while the proper 1500 would have been a medium-duty truck. Both would have V8s, it would better justify keeping the Classic in existence especially now considering that Ram has pulled the plug on it, and in the case of the refreshed 1500 it would have been an upgrade to the base engine. They could have still offered the I6s alongside the Hemis in the 1500s and kept everyone happy. Rams have always been known for the V8, even with the lifter flaw (don't idle the engine, and it should be fine). The high prices are already a deal breaker for everyone, but the lack of a V8 just kills it for so many people. I don't think the CAFE/guzzler standards were an issue for the 1500. That was more of an issue with the Charger/300 and Challenger.

[@Kahless00]

So don't do with a work truck engine what most people do with a work truck engine and it should be fine. People actually using trucks for work have them idling out in the field while they do something. And the hemi could pass emissions so it wasnt gonna keep going.

[@DJ2226]

@@Kahless00 I agree with you 100% with the lifter issue, and in an ideal world they would fix that by now but it's Chrysler/FCA/Stellantis so you know how that goes. As far as emissions go I'm sure they could fix that with a refresh of the engine architecture. Ford is still offering the 5.0 and GM the 5.3, and as far as I know neither are dropping them, at least for now anyway. It almost looks like Stellantis wants to rid itself of V8s entirely considering even the Maserati V8s are being dropped, and when it comes Hemi killing it off comes with a big cost savings. The I6 is probably cheaper to produce than the V8 since the engine is based on the already existing 2.0 I4 which already works for emissions, and one base engine covers everything from the cars to the large SUVs and medium duty trucks. Also no fines on the Dodge/Chrysler side of things anymore. Kills multiple birds with one stone.

[@C10sRule]

All those engine options would bankrupt the company. Even GM is cutting back on the optional engines. Ford, the same. People have the “I want, I want, I want” but don’t consider the costs of those want lists. Prices to the consumer and to the manufacturers. It’s kinda hilarious really. I have driven the base 3.0 SST and it’s much nicer than the 5.7 Hemi! The torque is much lower in the curve and has a wide torque curve. The acceleration is healthy!! 😊😊 better than the Hemi. It’s so nice on the highway. There are zero vibrations from the engine, naturally. I’m strongly considering making the purchase. It’s a 24 5.7 Rebel or the 25 3.0 SST Rebel. I drove both for about a half hour back to back and I liked the new 3.0 more. I don’t mind quiet and the 3.0 is absolutely silent.

[@twotrackjack2260]

​@DJ2226 I think you're forgetting something about the CAFE standards aspect. It's based on Fleet averages. Ford and GM are also selling a bunch of smaller much more efficient/cleaner cars that bring down their fleet average. The Stelantis brands are lagging far behind in the small & efficient sales thus their fleet average is higher. Replacing the V8 with a cleaner burning and somewhat more efficient turbo 6 must have been less expensive than getting the V8 to comply. I do not for one minute believe that anyone at Ram (or other associated brands) was happy about moving away from the V8.

[@devn3813]

All it is is cost cutting. That’s all it is.

[@travismyers7360]

Traded my 13 awd Denali pick up for one of these bad boys and cel came on at 130 miles no major issues still would trade for it again and again smooth ride the lane keep assist is awesome automatic brights are awesome heated seats are awesome having the app is awesome still disappointed about the cel but you can have that on any vehicle no matter what but still definitely by far worth it.

[@jmax6614]

I have a 2019 3.6 with 322k on it and it’s been a great truck

[@gladegoodrich2297]

Had V/6 non turbos and V/6 twin turbos. All got me from point A to B. With the exception of the new Tundras, dont think they make a bad truck.

[@DennisGLEBA]

I am on my third 3.6 leader engine . Great moter

[@5spikemike]

I have the 2019 version of this truck with the pentastar. It now has a bit over 100k miles. I love it. We sometimes tow our 5000 lb camper with it and it does well. My only complaint is that it has never gotten the advertised mpg. The hemis get the same mpg as this thing. If i was getting a new truck today, i definitely would go for the hurricane. Im a big fan of straight 6 engines. Always seem to have plenty of torque. Plus the turbos, it must be fun to drive.

[@chriscon8463]

Pull off the electric motor, adaptive cruise, wheels, side steps, huge infotainment screen, & a bunch of other stuff & get the extended cab instead of a crew cab & that’d be a decent $45K truck.

[@canopener505ify]

I bought a used 1500 with the Pentastar and it's fine for my needs. I don't tow but I'm a DIYer and have had plenty of projects I had to put off because I didn't have a truck. I like it but not at the prices for a brand new truck or even one newer than a few years old.

[@JasPlun]

Non turbo engine so that in itself is worth getting that engine for if maintained and serviced well they can go 200k or more miles relatively problem free. If you service them like clock work you cannot miss maintenance on them or they will become expensive to keep running well.

[@gregcarterfineart]

I bought my '21 Bighorn for 24k, with 47k miles. I'm happy.

[@winstondeocampo699]

I’m currently seeing 10 to 17 thousand $ discount on the table for these trucks in December 2024 in my local dealerships. So don’t let the msrp scare you away.

[@seanakridge2971]

My sticker for this truck was 61K but my out the door was 46K thanks to Black Friday discounts.

[@winstondeocampo699]

@ That’s awesome 👏🏼!

[@usasoccergoalie]

The 3.6 pentastar is a great motor

[@OUSWKR]

I think the pentastar engine is a good power plant for a Jeep wrangler. I just had to have both intake cams and all the lifters replaced in mine though. To me it would be under powered for a half ton truck unless you’re using it to haul groceries. Now if they added a supercharger to it then I could see it being more practical for a half ton in regard to pulling a boat or camper.

[@joshc606]

Glad someone reviewed the V6! Thanks. Yeah yeah price is high, tired of hearing it. I just like to watch haha. But I would say this is more on the side of loaded than base. V6 makes as much power as most early 2000’s V8 so I’m sure it’s “ok”

[@wanted-33]

Here's da thing, the 3.6L makes it's power at higher rpm's. I know this from my Jeep Wrangler. It's a tough engine for sure, but on the interstate it will live in 5th/6th gear if you hit any kind on inclines. And as far as getting better mpg's, that does defeat the purpose. My Ram1500 will get the same mpg's as my Jeep on a road trip (19/20), and it has that beautiful V8 growl.

[@neiljuedes1661]

I will go $40,000 tops for that truck !

[@Creekstain]

That is where they are at right now. Working a deal as we speak. Cant decide between the 3.6 or the 3.0I TT. Need to check insurance difference. The vroomer may be expensive on insurance and gas. It's more of a fleet use for me. Small one man band mobile service business.

[@marcgamelin2514]

I've owned 3 1500's with the V6. HWY driving and commuting this power plant is great to drive. Good fuel economy and smooth power delivery. towing is where this thing falls on its face.

[@LuvGQ]

Saw this exact truck this past weekend for 46k with all the discounts they are offering

[@crowneproductions9908]

There are like 6 of these with money pilled on the hoods over at my local dealership for 40-42k right this second brand spanking new. Was half considering trading in my 2021 Colorado Z71 but probably won't. But made me curious at that price.

[@anthonyferretti28]

My dad just scored a 25' Tradesman with the 3.6l, 4x4, crew cab and e-torque for 43.6k after a 6500 discount. Dodge is struggling. Never been a huge Dodge fan, but a great time to buy a Dodge. The lots are full. 3.6 has been around for 20 years, so most of the kinks have been worked out. If my dad needs to tow, he can borrow my 10' Tundra with the 5.7. Save the abuse on the new truck.

[@ejesoriginal]

Well, I bought a new 4Runner with an "old" engine and transmission, but truth be told, that IS why I bought it. I've also owned cars and SUV's with this Pentastar and the 3.2. I've never had any problem with the engine other than the plastic oil cooler housing warping and leaking. BUT I have had countless other problems with the RAM, JEEP, MOPAR cars and SUV's that surrounded these engines. Mostly electrical problems, but also transfer cases shelling, transmission problems, etc. The engines aren't bad, but the brand overall is terrible.

[@BP-1972]

I have this truck 2019, hemi, dual sun roof, paid $44,000 new after all the rebates.

[@Thickercarton]

It’s too expensive for the price but I did enjoy driving my work truck that had the pentastar and I got 24mpg when doing mostly highway. It was reliable and handled well

[@mattwalters1925]

2nd v6 Ram. 140k highway miles. 2024- Pentastar is solid and reliable 22.2mpg max. Looks good, good pick up, smooth gears, but 8th gear is useless. Do not buy with 3.21 gears to tow anything more than a lawnmower.

[@ds77sstx27]

Has TFL ever wagered that a truck was not worth buying? I can't honestly recall them ever saying "Don't buy a truck with this engine or transmission."

[@kinglimousine421]

What kind of solution did you advise to clean a chrome Diesel tailpipe tip from over time tarnishing from fuel or whether to get back original.Thanks

[@DeliciousBass01]

The problem is the 2.7V6 Ecoboost gets the same or better mileage.

[@chiefrainingstereotype.4184]

Doubtful, but assuming that’s so, it’ll still never last as long

[@Youtubeuser1aa]

That engine is a tank

[@garys596]

@@KZbinuser1aa with a rubber oil pump belt within the crankcase? no thanks...

[@Youtubeuser1aa]

@@garys596 engine has superior reliability statistics to a the garbage pentastar.

[@chiefrainingstereotype.4184]

@@KZbinuser1aa the 2.7 is far and away the best choice for the f-150, sure, that being said calling the pentastar garbage is laughable… I’ll take my intake valves without the carbon deposits thanks..

[@pauls3758]

I saw a raptor r yesterday i liked it i went to the website and looked to see how much it was 131k i dont even have words for this other than crazy all these auto companies are price gouging customers shame on them already

[@wrench8149]

We have a lot of work trucks with this engine and it is just fine. It’s not a hemi but it’s not supposed to be. It has its place in there lineup. But these sticker prices make me nauseous.

[@joshuacress5174]

Does it have a dipstick?

[@nodak81]

Right now the only truck I'd buy is a Ford with the Coyote V8. All other engines (from any brand, even Toyota) have been trainwrecks the last few years but that V8 is an amazing, reliable engine. Even if I was going HD, I would still get a Ford but with the Godzilla V8. For Diesel I would go Ram for the Cummins.

[@dentman67]

100%

[@atg1338]

Your opinion and everyone has a choice

[@MrRockyko]

I have to agree it’s a shame we can’t want v8 anymore and for the price unbelievable

[@russrtspooling7702]

Ummm the 2.7 ecoboost is not a train wreck it’s easily the most reliable motor ford makes and produces great power for a small engine that gets great gas mileage. Also let’s not forget when you tune that 2.7 it embarrasses the 5.0. Yea you can throw a whipple on the 5.0 but that’s 10 grand more vs less than a grand to throw on 80+ whp on that 2.7

[@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix]

The 5.6 in the Titan has been proven tume and time again to be reliable. 400hp (390 with regular fuell) no cylinder deactivation/active fuel management like the Coyote, and no auto stop/start. I liked the coyote until for added cylinder deactivation/active fuel management.

[@rubber-duck]

Give me the classic Ram regular cab V6 4x4 id even go with the tradesmen, enough power to pull a boat or a car and 4 wheel drive for bad weather is all I need

[@davem.539]

The pentastar is a very good motor and fuel efficient, if you are towing all the time then you may want to consider a V8.

[@robertannable9584]

When I bought my 19’ Laramie in summer of 2018, a fully loaded limited was $65k. This is crazy pricing from Stellantis. No wonder they are down over 20% YOY

[@ubeuonly]

Ford and che y are almost as bad

[@thomasward4505]

Maybe because that was 6 years ago

[@devn3813]

My brother got his 2019 Laramie level II for $44,000 usd

[@jonoubre4139]

Tow mirrors on a gutless 1500 is crazy. I had a rental truck for 2 months earlier this year, 2022 ram 1500 classic with this engine and it was gutless compared to other half tons. It didn’t wanna stay in 8th gear at 75 on the highway either

[@kevinvoyer5053]

Yea for a $60+k truck? I would forgo a couple of the options for an engine upgrade, but mind you the Hurricane SO, or HO, are new engines, with no track or road records to gauge reliability and durability, unlike the tried and true Pentastar 3.6 engine. I even had a 3.2 Pentastar in a very nice 2015 Cherokee TrailHawk, I had the pleasure of having for a three year lease, that was fun, adventurous and trouble free, that got very decent mileage overall at 18 city in traffic and lights if driven smooth and light footed. But up to 28 mpg at a steady 55, with an all time high of 32, at a steady 45 mph without cruise, just feathering the gas pedal trying not to downshift. Now I have another 3.6, in a new 2024 Gladiator, I had the option to buy a 2023 leftover 3.0 diesel, but went with the 2024 gas, that’s been fine, oh I’ll never see 28-30 mpg, but I’ll never have to worry about DEF or expensive exhaust system issues, plus quicker in traffic and passing traffic especially on the highways.