Is The New Ram 1500 Hurricane Turbo Really Better Than The Old HEMI V8?

[@TFLtruck]

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[@guentherwilke2055]

How much was the tounge weight without Kent sitting on the trailer?

[@markvietti]

dodge wont recall like Toyota.... they will tell us to get fked.

[@Jon-O.]

The mistake by Ram truck with the use of turbos is no exhaust brake period don't tell me you can't design the piston rings to handle the higher pressures involved with this. Also that will in turn reduce fuel dilution from bypassing the rings on direct injection engine.

[@phatstackmack152]

Next time, make sure you get the same Rearend Gears and tire size, BEFORE comparing Power Plants to make sure it's a Fair Comparison😊

[@sergegelinas9644]

Comparing a 3.21 Hemi with a 3.92 Hurricane is not a valid test in my opinion.

[@DonutGuy-2000]

Needs to be a 3.92 Hemi in the comparison. Brake applications would have been less, most likely more power uphill, less full throttle and lower oil temp.

[@M113H]

Plus, they're testing them at high elevation, which further benefits the forced-induction (turbocharged) Hurricane. Not a fair comparison!

[@JohnDiMartino]

Hey Mr Truck, you repeatedly say a 3.92 is going to hurt fuel economy on the Ike towing,it does not! Stop misleading people,it may hurt it slightly on flat ground empty at highway speeds,that’s about it. It’s just going to be a gear higher than a 3.21 truck on the pull,it’ll roll out easier, driveline life will be longer especially when loaded since the lower gearing puts less stress on the transmission ,tcase and u joints getting going. . These trucks are bricks they aren’t going to get good fuel mileage above 60 mph irregardless of the gearing,due to aerodynamic drag,. ,so you should get the pulling gears if your going to be doing towing and off roading.

[@jacobforeman9916]

I'm betting that's what the manufacturer gave them. Can't have the old v8 beating the new turbo 6.

[@moparjr89]

​@@M113H it is fair because they are testing both in the toughest way they would be used. They recently did a video testing the hurricane towing on flat ground against a v8 ford and chevy and it was alot faster

[@TheCamaro5]

Everybody should be talking about how insane new truck prices are.

[@waterloo123100]

Blame the government

[@GregMcNamer]

@@waterloo123100 Blame consumers for buying them.

[@gabrielqitsualik6885]

That's why I'm happy that I would rather rebuild older vehicles than buy a new one any day

[@philspear73]

Unfortunately as long as these credit companies lend out these ludicrous amounts this will only get worse.

[@TheCamaro5]

@@philspear73 truck market has already declined 15%

[@andrewinaustintx]

Knock on wood - Let's hope the Hurricane in-line 6 will have fewer recalls than the Tundra's twin-turbo V6.

[@Enchanted3DPrints]

We all know that will never happen xD

[@gabevillarreal4779]

Difference is Toyota fixed it right the first time. RAM will screw it up and continue to fumble over and over deeming it UNRELIABLE. Prove me wrong this time RAM!

[@terrarecon]

@@Enchanted3DPrints I don't know. I am a hard core Toyota fan, but I am also not one of those fans who looks the other way while the Toyota of America dumpster fire is burning. I know two Toyota mechanics and one Toyota engineer and they beg to differ.

[@shitloveaduck]

Living in the past. Businesses change all the time. Toyota definitely dropped the ball with the 3.4. They say it’s fixed, but time will tell. I believe they likely have, but it’s an all North American truck. In the past the previous Tundra had the highest North American content of all the full size trucks. North American problems will show up. I like the current Tundra a lot! Would likely buy a Double Cab, SR5 TRD Off-road. I’m gonna wait another year though. They had huge catastrophic failures and I’m often very far from help in my adventures. I don’t want a breakdown out there. I currently go out there in one of my restored, sometimes improved, classic 4x4s. I can trust those implicitly. I essentially touched every bolt and screw in them!! 😂😂.

[@davidjernigan8161]

​@@gabevillarreal4779Like all the tundras that are on their second or third replacement short block either due to there still being swarf in the oiling system or the engine design is a failure

[@wesshepard]

Congrats on the marriage Mr. Truck! It’s always a pleasure seeing you and Andre test these trucks. Keep up the good work.

[@ericg9327]

Original Mr Truck is amazing, thank you… Of course new Mr Truck is fun to watch

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@msuda6188]

I guess I’ll continue driving my 2002 ram 1500 with 5.9L magnum. Sure, my MPG is terrible but does what I need it to do, it’s reliable, I can fix most issues (they seldom come up). These prices are out of reach for most people.

[@donc6781]

Gas is cheaper than car payments 👍

[@225savage0]

I retired my 2000 dodge ram and upgraded to a 2009. I couldn’t be more happy. I paid 5000 for the truck and it’s the same body style all the way up to 2018. The 5.9 is a great engine but it’s not a hemi. And like the entire truck is an upgrade really. No more busted dashboard or rough ride. It’s rare that I have to work on this truck.

[@225savage0]

The 09 is the best year ram ever had. It has the 5 speed. Not the 6 that have problems. In 09 it was posted everywhere how ram had the best suspension also. They still use this same suspension today. Ford still uses leaf springs in the back. If I wanted a heavy duty truck I would have bought a Cummins. I went with a smooth ride instead. I know people that have fords and silverados and there’s no competition. Just like when you stomp that gas and it holds you in the seat. I’ve never sat in any other stock truck that did that.

[@kennygee2715]

You can also try to hypermile it and get a few extra mpg.

[@goingdownthetube]

I would like to see the Hurricane vs the 3.0 Duramax...Ike and 100 mile loop. Good to see inline 6 cylinder coming back. Ford 300 was one of the best truck engines from the old days.

[@moparjr89]

Way faster uphill not better on mpg though

[@Jamesmonroe1077]

difference is the ford 300 was a brick with simple technology that you could maintain yourself under a tree, these motors have electronically controlled oil pumps, direct injection, hundreds of sensors, relays, switches. Not to mention twin turbos and loads of emissions BS, unfortunately this is not the inline 6 that we all used to love.

[@brentmcmahon8188]

And it would not be right to compare diesel with a gas motor, it’s just not a fair fight .

[@kgsartin]

I wanna see the Hurricane up against the 3.5 Ecoboost.

[@paulbinmo]

Agreed!!

[@dudas35]

3 Way Tundra, Ecoboost and Hurricane

[@mcmuskie2563]

My moneys on the 3.5tt

[@montywazany799]

@@dudas35 ummm idk about the tundra lol they recalling them engines already 🤣🤣

[@glsracer]

The ecobang is overboosted for the build of the engine. They have great performance but you'd be out of your mind to get one unless you swap out your truck every 3 years or so.

[@richardscherder8039]

For $80,000 you can buy a nice heavy duty pickup.

[@Whiskeybende]

Exactly! I'm seeing 24 Ram 3500 Cummins crew cab short bed Laramie night edition for $80k

[@joatmon1857]

You can but it it will mid to bottom loaded esp being brand new and if its diesel even worse!

[@JayCarroll]

I bought a 24 RAM 3500 dually for $67K.....

[@countrycaretakerpropertyse7981]

If you don’t want the maintenance of a heavy duty truck, this is a fantastic option. Not everyone needs an HD pickup

[@ljmorris6496]

I can buy an luxury sports sedan for the same price but it isn't what I need, same for a HD truck..

[@freddymardiceii3273]

I've been following the Fast Lane Truck for the last year or so and love the content, but I have to say I'm very blessed that I got my 2018 2500 Big Horn 4x4 with the Cummins when I did last year. Like brand new with 61k miles when i bought it last June. 65k miles now and I just came back from towing with it a couple weeks ago and the Cummins towed like it was nothing. My first diesel and love it! Those ridiculous truck prices are making me realize I'll be holding on to my Ram and 07 Ranger FX4 for a long time. Great job Andre and Mr. Truck!

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@JustinKingOffroad]

I just pulled a almost 10,000 pound trailer down the gaunlet yesterday with the powerstroke exhaust brake set to auto. Zero brake applications was a totally new experience to me. but this is also my first diesel truck and I love it!

[@randyvac01]

What year is the truck

[@JustinKingOffroad]

@@randyvac01 2019

[@melissasmess2773]

My 1995 Dodge Cummins is all I need, 12 valves 🎉

[@moparjr89]

6.7 is a turd i outran one in my semi going up hill and i know he was trying because before and after the hill he was passing me

[@Art12453]

@@moparjr89doubt it 6.7s with the 10spd will put you in the back of your seat at even 60 plus.

[@stingypaperwaffles]

"Is that copyrighted?" "Not if you sing it like that." 😆 Good one Kase!

[@Kenopshi-q7c]

😆

[@Mike-te1xx]

$83k is F350 Lariat Ultimate tremor 7.3 . Rather have that.

[@Turshin]

Really you can that truck for that cheap?

[@Mike-te1xx]

@Turshin yes, with BAP, sunroof, bedliner, 2kw, clearance lights, engine heater and probably more that I'm forgetting.

[@joatmon1857]

And 10-12 mog not even towing... Great!

[@Mike-te1xx]

@@joatmon1857 yup, I get around 13.8 going 70 to 80mph and 12 city.....but at least I can tow and have 4000lbs payload, stock with 35s and a factory warranty winch. Mileage don't bother me. If you want mileage, there's always prius or electric.

[@nathanmcdonald610]

@@Turshin God help us, 83K and cheap should never be in the same sentence when considering a vehicle purchase.

[@bk27117]

So let me get this straight it is not any more efficient than the V8s, it did way worse downhill with the same gear ratio, and the turbochargers are absolutely more likely to have issues than a naturally aspirated engine. Thank you for caving to the pressure and making your truck worse Ram!!!!!

[@Bill-sp8kb]

There's no free lunch.

[@HunterB738]

Caving haha

[@GlennC789]

It should be more efficient when not using turbo, like 95% of the time for most driving, that's the point. This is a worst-case test for turbo vs NA gasser and yes it does show the drawbacks.

[@captinhoop]

It was not the same rear end, also the Hemi MPG never reads under 4.7mpg. The hurricane is way better and more powerful

[@PUDDI1986]

​@captinhoop in Canada, the economy is in L per 100km, and when idling it shows 99L/100km that's the worst it can show. So at lease it's more accurate in Canada if it never shows lower then 4.7mpg in the states

[@windrider65]

I've got a 2017 Chevy Express cargo van with the 6 liter. I live full time in a 32 foot travel trailer that weighs 8300 lbs with all my stuff. I tow in manual mode always, it just gives me more control and confidence with the travel trailer behind me.

[@phantom0456]

That’s cool. I’ll bet that travel trailer sways like crazy in a high wind, though.

[@1STGeneral]

​@@phantom0456They are called wind rider

[@phantom0456]

@@1STGeneral I see that, now. Good point.

[@nsleone299]

So umm, if that 5.7 Hemi truck really has the 3.21 rear differential then you guys overloaded the truck… The 3.21 ratio crew cab 4x4 trucks have a GCWR of 13,900 pounds. You showed that truck had a payload of 1588 meaning it weighs 5512 empty. (gvwr is 7100 then subtract payload for curb weight) plus the trailer at 8800 is already over without adding the two of you in the truck… you guys were probably close to if not over 14,500 pounds gcwr. It obviously did the test okay but I’m bummed to see you guys missed this important fact. You guys made a video about how the J2807 standards are set so it feels wrong and a little unsafe to me that you guys are exceeding it here. Especially if you’re trying to compare it to something else.

[@OtisFlint]

ok karen

[@stevekniess3665]

Congratulations Mr Truck now there's a Mrs Truck. Great video thanks guys

[@aricegana2382]

I wonder if he and Tommy did a dual wedding?

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@Jsparrvik98]

Love TFL and their content; however, as 2020 Ram 1500 with the 3.92 I am disappointed to see it wasn’t an apples to apples comparison

[@ScottHBrown]

Coolant is 241 on the 6! That's insane! The Hemi was hot, too!

[@cwsill]

I believe those were the oil temps which will be hotter than the coolant.

[@Eugen-E]

When he reached the top in the 5.7 V8 the outside temp was 60 and the oil temp was 284 and with the 3.0TT it was 55 outside and 248 oil temp. Plus he let off the throttle because of that traffic jam.

[@Jay-me7gw]

@@Eugen-E248 was the coolant temp. Look at the symbol on the screen. Andre misspoke

[@LeadStarDude]

The Hemi engine oil ran hot because of the 321 rear differential. If it had the 392 like the Hurricane did it would have actually had lower temps than the Hurricane. I know because I have the 392 with my Hemi 5.7.

[@Eugen-E]

@@LeadStarDude And how does that final drive affect the oil temp ?!

[@upshifter5316]

Thanks for field testing my truck Andre. I’m going to check it out on Monday. I’m going to ask for a huge discount on account of you beating the hell out of it!! Hahaha

[@DanielJaegerFilms]

420 and 469… nice

[@nicholassmith7048]

Coincidence? Me thinks not 😄

[@johngidman4574]

I'm sure there's not going to be any problem without an oil dipstick. What a great idea that is!

[@1STGeneral]

Like Fords ptu units having lifetime fluid

[@slmjake]

I love TFL! BUT unless trucks have the same axle ratio this is quite a bit of conjecture

[@flipcoin6301]

should compare with the same option packages and wheels/tires

[@CraigG21]

Agree, but the same ratios may not be available with the new 3.0L Hurricane.

[@bostondan77]

Case: "You're good, not if you sing it like that" 🤣

[@SvenLarson-sc8mo]

I had the same problem with oil temp on my Ram 1500s. It was the only thing I was worried about when towing.

[@ryanb6658]

The turbos are on the same side because the exhaust is on the same side I’m guessing 😂

[@allanstriber5272]

Yep... Each turbo is for 3cylinders each

[@markcole6475]

Yes, being in-line the exhaust would be on one side..

[@1STGeneral]

So will 3 slugs get it to the dealership

[@GettingthruLife]

80k to 65k for common trucks is not realistic, and I hope the manufacturers lose their ass making such expensive product. They need to get back to 45-35k new product that's not just junk and bare bones.

[@BeagleBob-zw7wg]

The dollar is losing value rapidly, that’s the problem.

[@Gadfly2025]

High oil temp = high engine temp = high EGT will = short engine life

[@billmalec]

At high elevation with cool ambient temps even.

[@moparjr89]

Not a diesel so egts not an issue

[@benzimmermann2197]

Exactly, these boosted gasoline engines cannot hold up to a constant work load, if you use it like a truck, the engine will be worn out by 100k, due to all the heat, this inline engine might last a bit longer but time will tell

[@UTBanjo]

@@billmalec High elevation actually causes elevated temps. The air is less dense, and it's harder on the cooling system.

[@billmalec]

@@UTBanjo come here in the South on a 100° day 😉. It was probably only 45° up there and yes I've been there many times to ride trails on my dirt bike. I've never once had the cooling fan come on out there even on hard switchback trails, when it comes on here if you even ride easily down the road.

[@michaelmartin2276]

My 2011 RAM hemi is fantastic and well over 200k miles. I have a 3.92 rear differential ratio. Towing has always been great and it'll tow anything including a bit of capacity.

[@jelos3512]

Not a fair comparison. The hemi is a regular truck the hurricane is a rebel. Different tire sizes and gear ratios.

[@ShannonJanzen]

I agree

[@juliocvelez1]

I’ve noticed the turbo 6 people get really defensive when the turbo 6 vs v8 is brought up. 😂

[@Bluecedor]

Um, what? The V8 truck guys have been whining about turbo V6s since 2012.

[@crisjr6478]

Needing turbos is like needing viagra. No matter if it works you still feel shame. 😂😂😂

[@crisjr6478]

⁠@@Bluecedorit’s more like v8 truck owners have been listening to turbo 6cyl owners complaining about there turbo sixes since 2012. 😂😂😂

[@andyharman3022]

It's never fair comparing turbocharged to naturally aspirated vehicles on The Ike. The NA engines are down 30% from sea-level power, and the turbo engines are still close to sea-level power. I like turbocharging and inline 6's, but did Chrysler have to make it so small in displacement? (Yes, to meet the CAFE targets.) Long-term durability I think will not be as good as the 5.7 Hemi. The engine has to work twice as hard all the time to move the truck the same way that the Hemi did. A 4.0L turbo Hemi inline-6 would have been a cool engine for the application. Chrysler could still have marketed the Hemi name and had a downsized engine for better fuel economy that would not have been as heavily stressed as a 3.0L engine. The V8 got 20% better fuel economy on the uphill than the turbo 6. I guess those old-tech pushrod engines aren't so bad after all.

[@mongo64071]

. I hope the owners of the new engines change the oil a lot. Turbos won’t tolerate extended service intervals long term. I don’t care what the manufacturer says, 5,000 miles is it. Oil is cheap. Engines are not.

[@treyhart6861]

I really hate the "3.0 turbo" that they are putting in everything.. I agree, a 4.0 would be awesome. As for comparing turbo to turbo.... That's the nature of the beast. Their NA engine is being replaced with their turbo, so it has to be compared

[@duramaxadventures5832]

Hemi eat cams. Which is a 5k-10k engine out job to fix properly. So keep that in mind

[@mongo64071]

@@duramaxadventures5832 they really only eat cams for cars that do a lot of idling. If you don’t do a lot of idling, the gen 3 is pretty good

[@RyTrapp0]

There's nothing unfair at all - it's a literal real world comparison. That doesn't mean that the outcome is universal across all other scenarios, which no one is claiming. It's representative of comparing two vehcicles on The Ike. Nothing more. Nothing less.

[@ljmorris6496]

Before I've finished the video, I've dusted plenty of v8 in an Ecoboost. A turbo always going to do better in high altitudes then NA. They need an sea level test..

[@moparjr89]

They did one against the coyote and i think the 6.2gm it whopped them both by alot

[@Lamtitude]

@@moparjr89with 60 more hp, it should’ve.

[@mikebradford7780]

Im sure you have. They are called Eco-booms around here. When the dealers around here take them in and see they have been used for towing they go straight to the auction.

[@ljmorris6496]

​@@mikebradford7780 Cool story, I haven't had this issue after towing in high altitudes..

[@mcmuskie2563]

I tow all the time, plenty of power without boost, it’s fun when you need it as well. 3.5tt rocks.

[@clintonrice9179]

FYI the Hurricane does not have a oil dipstick. It measures oil via a gauge on instrument cluster.

[@jasoncentore1830]

Disaster waiting to happen

[@darrelldelong4964]

My buddy had an $80,000 BMW with no dipstick . The engine seized up due to low oil . The on board "oil gauge" did not notify / recognize the low oil. $30,000 cost for a new motor . He was a mechanic and very aware of his engine characteristics , but the engine still seized. VERY BAD IDEA NOT PUTTING A $2 DIPSTICK ON ANY VEHICLE.. ESPECIALLY A TRUCK .

[@2packs4sure]

The only reason they went with that twin turbo straight 6 was to please their government overlords at the EPA and CAFE,, and it doesn't matter if it's actually less efficient as long as the government officials say it's better the manufacturers get what they need... Because if they don't meet those CAFE standards the fines are astronomical even though it's impossible to find out what they are and how they're calculated....

[@DJ2226]

They did it because it's cheaper. The engine is a 6 cylinder version of the 2.0L I4 but buffed up a bit. Both are built on the same assembly line in Mexico, and besides the cheap labor I6s will always be cheaper to make since it's only one bank of cylinders. The Hemi wasn't compliant with emissions for cars and the 1500 anymore, but since Stellantis wanted a cheap way out they made this instead of upgrading the Hemi or turning the Pentastar into a V8. They could have upgraded the 5.7 and gave it 4Xe for the 1500 (the TRX/RHO would actually work well for a 1500HD type application with the 6.4) and still gave these other options, but it's Stellantis... what else would expect from them.

[@chrisprimiano611]

@@DJ2226so what you’re saying is that @2packs is right. If it weren’t for the government changing the CAFE standards the Hurricane likely wouldn’t exists.

[@DJ2226]

@@chrisprimiano611 the Hurricane would still likely exist. Stellantis mainly wanted a cheaper option, and the Hurricane would be less expensive to produce than the Hemi.

[@jasoncentore1830]

​@@DJ2226costs less but sales are guaranteed to suffer people want V-8's the Hurricane doesn't even get better mpg

[@bjornironsides6474]

I love the hemi, challengers and trucks should still offer it, but it is cool seeing a i6 come back.

[@Randythesavage777]

No dip stick on that straight 6!! That's a red flag of what can go wrong in the future 😳

[@mikefoehr235]

Like the Germans...ridiculous

[@plmn93]

There's an oil level sensor, which is probably more useful in the real world.

[@mikefoehr235]

@@plmn93 nope

[@zelenizub2036]

​@@plmn93dip stick worked just fine for millions of years. I do not want a sensor.

[@phantom0456]

@@plmn93until the sensor fails… it’s insane to me that a manufacturer would not put a dipstick on any ICE.

[@cshecks]

Man, that new RAM is a slick looking ride, seems to also back up the looks w/ its performance. Bravo RAM, only time will tell but they may have hit this one out of the park. Bring on the EcoBoost!

[@V8Power5300]

Damn, that rebel has crazy low oil pressure. I would not like that electronically controlled oil pressure being that low. I wonder how much pressure there is under full load

[@LukeEdward]

Yeah. They seem to be doing that lately. I have a 2.0L turbo Jeep Wrangler and it’s the same way. It’s for MPGs. It will cycle between the low and then high, like 40-50psi, at times. When you’re on the highway using cruise control, you can see the MPG decrease when the oil pressure changes.

[@jessitaylor4170]

Hemi is far superior, Dodge needs to keep making the Hemi!

[@arlenboyer-v9v]

83k for a half ton is just crazy not for me bought 24 f350 crewcab xlt gooseneck 360 camera 4.30 gears for 63k

[@dang5553]

What trim level powerstroke?

[@Tesslabeachfishing]

Anyone paying $80K for a 1500 needs to have their head examined

[@bryandawkins3232]

Just come here for the comments ...

[@theantiqueactionfigure]

I love the concept of that inline six. But my 2018 Cummins powered Ram has been so problematic I wouldn't buy another.

[@slalomking]

Yep, some other old fart on here is saying the pickup diesels last a million miles, I called him out. No way they can really make 300,000 miles anymore

[@richardgreen1383]

In their discussion of air bags, they talked about over the road trucks have air bags and air seats, etc. My next door neighbor is an over the road trucker and his previous truck had an air leak he could never find. When he parked the truck over the weekend, it would sit down on the stops and he would have to wait a few minutes while it got enough pressure to raise the truck up to it's normal position. He did not have any issues on the road with the engine running, just when he parked it when at home.

[@mattwmorton]

Mr Truck is honestly clueless.

[@jesslesko3122]

Been noticing that more and more lately. Lots of rambling, little substance or actual knowledge or information anymore.

[@golfbravowhiskey8669]

Ha ha love it. Put V6 in title and get more comments. That’s how to get more interactions and that equals more clicks 💰😁. Everybody thinks y’all made a mistake 😂

[@Youtubeuser1aa]

Oh yeah they meant to do that 😂

[@4vinylsound]

I looked up the Weigh safe tow hitch ball and it's so expensive they don't even advertise the price. Lol.

[@allanj4576]

Price is on Amazon

[@4vinylsound]

@@allanj4576 That's where I saw it and it did not have the price advertise. That means it's too expensive to post.

[@slalomking]

Oh, it’s gonna be a pretty penny. 😊

[@bryanritts213]

I just bought a 2025 Ram 1500 with the Hurricane Big Horn. 3:92 gears. Traded my 2021 Big Horn 1500 with the 5.7 Hemi. 3:21 gears. Although the Hurricane is impressive for what it is, I miss my Hemi and regret trading it. From my experience with it the past 3 weeks the fuel mileage is about the same. Feel like the eco boost guys are winking at me now that I have a similar engine like they do.

[@Jay-me7gw]

Give the truck some time to break in. I would say it was almost 5000 miles before my 2014 Ecoboost fully loosened up. I did a cross country trip with 1200 miles on the odo and got 13 mpg but once I was 5000+ miles it rarely got below 16.

[@Intimidator82]

😂😂the eco-boost guys winking at you, 🤣🤣

[@bjornironsides6474]

I can’t imagine buying a truck and trading it in so soon…or any car, unless you have major problems.

[@WW-wf8tu]

Congratulations Mr. Truck on your recent marriage. You and Tommy are fortunate men. Wishing you peace and long life.

[@mediocreman2]

He married Tommy? Interesting.

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@tylerawesome3962]

Talk about major danger zone with that oil temp. My dump truck doesn’t even get past 230 degrees and 250 is red zone.

[@johnschmalbach8243]

That payload is ridiculous. 1200 lbs? My 2023 Ford Ranger Sport (didn't waste my money on the FX4) has a payload of 1561 lbs.

[@workingcountry1776]

My 1987 Ford 150 even with ladder rack and steel tool box fill of tools and me in it still has more payload than that....

[@johnschmalbach8243]

In response to myself. I wonder what the payload of one is, without the adjustable rear air suspension. That has to add a fair amount of weight, and thus detract from the payload.

[@JogBird]

@@johnschmalbach8243 the cybertruck has air suspension and has 2500 lb payload.. it might just be market segmentation.. they want you to buy an even more expensive truck to get the higher payload

[@johnschmalbach8243]

@@JogBird apples and oranges. You really can't compare a Cybertruck to a gasoline Half ton. Yep the Cybertruck has more payload but the 1/2 tons can be spec'd to have more towing. The Cybertruck is a very different beast because of the lack of a transmission etc. A Ram 1500 is a Ram 1500 frame, transmission, axles etc. Then you add different stuff on, skid plates, air shocks and compressors etc. the GVWR goes up, the payload drops. Like my Ranger. I got the Sport, and not FX4, because I have no interest in off-road. I wanted to tow a travel trailer and not have the wayward handling of the FX4 suspension. Not getting the FX4 gave me almost 1600 lbs of payload (1561) and not the 1400ish of an FX4.

[@cliffordmontana4562]

@@JogBirdThe Cybertruck has a much higher GVWR. That’s why.

[@jonjpbm]

I hope this duo never goes away. Cowboy hats. Need truck talk from old guys😂 that love them. Cheers dudes

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@kc2giw]

Is that 900 lbs of tongue weight with or without Mr truck sitting on it

[@user-ke2hc9me1y]

I’ve got 2 1500 Ram Classics. One has the 3.2 rear axle and the other has the 3.5 Even though it doesn’t seem like a lot the difference between the 2 trucks towing is shocking.

[@The_Hi_Life]

Hey Andre, yall give MrTruck a tutorial on how to use that timer, would ya???

[@anthonyc1883]

lol Love how he announces the time, and then shows the camera the timer and it is still running. But admittedly, that was only the on-ramp merge for each truck. He did stop the stopwatch at the top of the grade both times. Maybe he thinks the timer has to keep going on the on-ramp merge, to time the entire run all the way to the top without interruption.

[@pauledwards1157]

I have the air suspension on my 2014 loaded Sport. Zero issues with it. I also have the 3.91 rear. My 2014 has been remarkably reliable other than the exhaust manifold tick that I fixed with the aftermarket BD manifolds.

[@joshc606]

People had the same melt downs when for introduced the Eco Boost. No big deal people.

[@slalomking]

And that 3.5 will outtow all the big modern day V8’s.

[@Tesslabeachfishing]

I'm seeing the tow and half specs are less than the hemi ​@@slalomking

[@gcrash68]

TFL keep improving and refining your content. How about inviting subscribers to compare personal trucks against your measured benchmarks and compare the differences?

[@nickschaps4022]

For that price I’d buy a 1 or 2 yr old Powerstroke lariat and get way better mpg.

[@JD-yx7be]

and way higher repair bills with more expensive fuel

[@0159ralph]

Andre there's not only a few people mad at Ram for discontinuing the Ram. There are many of us. My 2019 Laramie Hemi is a great truck the best truck I ever purchased. I plan to drive this until the wheels fall off. Also in 2019 I paid 43K used with 13K on the odo. These new trucks that sells for 60 to 80k that arent equipped with a V8 are for fools.

[@ricatiman]

The Ram Hurricane would have tested even quieter if you didn't do the test while passing a Semi struggling up the mountain...

[@NZmellowyellow]

Such a good team. Always enjoy watching you two.

[@stephenaldridge6237]

"Mr.Truck" elbow placement is Criminal

[@OutdoormanPost]

I have a 2021 Ram 1500 Warlock with the 5.7 and have temperature issues when towing a 6500lb trailer on hills with ambient temps over 85 degrees. The oil temp raises to 275+ then the coolant temp rises as well. I have had to slow way down or stop in order to control the temps. This prompted me to install an aftermarket oil cooler and a remote oil filter that helped a lot.

[@ryand4786]

Heavy duty money for a half ton pick up, and more screens and airbag suspension to keep that truck in the shop on a regular basis. 👍

[@Bluecedor]

Why do you assume screens automatically mean any vehicle will be in the shop more often? Do you know how many screens from the early 00s are still working after 20 years of abuse and hot summer interiors/icy winters?

[@ryand4786]

@@Bluecedor because I work in the industry and seen them fail several times. Also, the screens they use now were not around in the early 2000s

[@tonyc7435]

Case had me LAUGHING at his little dig at Andre about the singing HAHAHAH

[@RomeyRome413]

What's up guys, no video or comments on the Toyota Tundra TT 6 engine recall?

[@roborsini6610]

The air suspension I agree should be in every truck. I have it on my ‘22 limited but I live in the coldest spot in Montana and this winter the suspension froze up and I couldn’t drive the truck for a day or two. Shouldn’t be a problem for most people but something to think about for those who live in the north.

[@joseeduardo4327]

Mr Truck didn’t even blink when he heard $82k. He must be doing okay lmao

[@TheRealMarkS]

Yeah, but those mirrors though. . . LOL

[@marcusguidry9945]

Coming from a current Ram owner 2020 half ton w/Hemi, there is no way I would buy a Ram again with the new engine. If im unable to check my oil, especially in situations like TFL just experienced, I'll stick to buying a truck with the ability to physically check the oil. Cars fine, but lets keep dip sticks in trucks. Just my opinion.

[@darrelldelong4964]

My buddy had an $80,000 BMW with no dipstick . The engine seized up due to low oil . The on board "oil gauge" did not notify / recognize the low oil. $30,000 cost for a new motor . He was a mechanic and very aware of his engine characteristics , but the engine still seized. VERY BAD IDEA NOT PUTTING A $2 DIPSTICK ON ANY VEHICLE.. ESPECIALLY A TRUCK .

[@plpwheeler]

Great test, can Mr Truck learn to hit STOP on the timer?

[@MrTruckTV]

I did

[@Christarpher]

“Not if you sing it like that” absolute savage lmao

[@greggc8088]

Those nitrogen filled suspensions are a pain in the ice and expensive to repair and they do not last forever. Pretty much like the old air rides, when one component fails you might as well replace it all-compressor, shocks, lines, etc or you'll just be constantly breaking it down to work on it. The real pain is charging the system and getting the fill procedure to complete. Rub your tummy, at your head, hold your mouth right, curse out all the engineers, and then cry a little. Give me springs any day and I'll modify the rear suspension to for the job it's got to do.

[@evannolan3304]

280 degree oil temp is wild

[@Grizzlyhillbilly]

Too bad both trucks didn’t have the 3.92 gear ratio. There is a big difference between a 3.21 and 3.92 ratio in the Hemi’s when towing.

[@joeblow5037]

great point

[@mr_ice117]

10 years later still watching. Good video as usual. Personally I still prefer an old fashioned V8, I’ll take the fuel chug over a more complicated twin turbo V6. The turbos sound cool but the cost to repair give me a heart attack

[@prodieselrepair3218]

Safer towing pickup? I disagree. These things are so packed full of gizmos and gadgets with touch screens which all require taking your eyes off of the road to operate. I think touch screens need to be disabled while the vehicle is moving

[@slalomking]

Wow, thats insane turn off all screens. How you gonna control your HVAC system with no screens

[@prodieselrepair3218]

@@slalomking knobs and buttons just like we've had in cars for 40 years. That's how

[@_donnagan_]

@@prodieselrepair3218YUP!

[@PWlangford1]

Yes I’ve noticed the increase in distraction causing gizmos. I drive a 22 Custom 1500. And poor fwd visibility.

[@sjohnsonnc06]

2019-newer Rams with the 5.7 is the updated version where they upgraded the topend of the engine to be more robust

[@PontiacFirebirdFormula305WS6]

I like that Dodge is putting a straight six back in their trucks, but I wish it had a few more cubic inches.

[@zelenizub2036]

Should have been at least 4 liter engine.

[@waterloo123100]

I don’t think you guys understand the new emissions laws lol

[@PontiacFirebirdFormula305WS6]

That emissions equipment can always mysteriously disappear! 😉

[@Slider68]

I always find it notable how Jay typically wanders between lanes and often even between two lanes, while driving these rare, valuable historic cars.

[@Tommy-Tucker]

Not an equal comparison 3:21 gear ratio in the hemi, 3.92 in the hurricane. Both need to be same ratio.

[@glenparks5175]

Yea I had 3.92,in my Hemi it was a beast pulling

[@rerod650]

When we drove our hurricane Wagoneer through the mountains we noticed it would grade shift very well when in cruise control but not well at all if you drive normally. I know that is not your usual testing protocol, but just an owners data point.

[@stevekniess3665]

Wow I thought the brake applications would be less. Lol Mr Truck you didn't like the old moose mirrors?

[@MrTruckTV]

I thought they were moon mirrors

[@TheUnorthodoxx]

Mr. Truck, hit the stop button on that stopwatch on the uphill acceleration run please.

[@anthonyc1883]

Right? I know, kinda funny how he shows the stopwatch and it is still running, as if that proves anything. BUT, in his defense, doesn't the stopwatch need to keep going uninterrupted to time the entire run to the top of the grade?

[@TheUnorthodoxx]

@@anthonyc1883 No, I believe it's just rolling start to sixty, but I guess I need to go back and check?

[@anthonyc1883]

@@TheUnorthodoxx Well, they do announce a time at the top of the hill (target is 8:00 minutes) so there would either need to be two stopwatches going or the onramp stopwatch would need to be stopped, shown to the camera and then restarted for the long climb, meaning that a few seconds wouldn't be recorded. But now I'm thinking I should go back to other videos to check how the onramp timer is handled vs. the overall timer.

[@TheUnorthodoxx]

@@anthonyc1883 Yeah, I've been watching these since they started the Gauntlet and never noticed.

[@MrJohney]

Isnt the new ram a straight 6 not a V6

[@melissasmess2773]

Yes sir

[@jasoncentore1830]

Correct sir. Only Pentastar is V-6

[@risby1930]

That high oil temperatures are cooking those turbos.

[@theseb1979]

Why are you hogging the middle lane with a trailer when the inner lane is empty?

[@yousad6742]

I’m pissed ram finally changed the mirrors after I spent 63k with the flip ups.

[@nicholassmith7048]

Should have anticipated them updating the mirrors with the new generation.

[@slalomking]

The mirrors get worse on every redesign

[@zinner927]

Inline 6 turbo is like the BMW formula since 2007, I tow with a X5 with the N57 motor and it's smooth and effortless TQ. Have rear air springs as well.

[@cherylweber1246]

Did you make the typo, editing error to drive up number of comments?

[@matthewdievendorf9609]

The only issue I have with my 2015 Ram 1500 is the exhaust manifold on the driver-side, water pump, fan-clutch assembly, Wheel bearing on the passenger side, I am also having issues with my transfer-case(It’s a little clunky). The volume knob on the original radio failed, the door seal on the driver-side is starting to come peal away from the door. I will say there have been a few failures but they are mostly my fault because I use and abuse my truck. I have less than 150,000 miles on her. She sounds good and despite the small issues with the truck I love it. With that being said, My next truck will be for sure a Ram with the Hurricane!!!

[@johndonohoe9807]

Put the Hurricane in the Jeep Gladiator and Wrangler.

[@jasoncentore1830]

Keep it out of the Ram. I buy HEMI Rams every 3 years ty Ram for saving me $70k. Never again

[@donaldliverance2597]

You guys gotta do this with matching rear ends to make it worth the test

[@70MSwarrior]

they did a video with the ram rebel GT with the 3:92 rear end, i believe it was 4 or 5 brake applications only on the down hill, vs the inline 6, 13 brake apllications with the 3:92 rear end

[@gabevillarreal4779]

18.9 is 19 seconds. Not 18 seconds. Definitely not 89!🤣

[@HunterB738]

He’s not wearing his seatbelt properly in the beginning either. I think he’s getting old age issues.

[@jimjones-pz1tt]

That's O.K! Mr. Truck called out 15 seconds on the Hurricane as the camera showed the stopwatch sailing past 20 seconds!

[@HunterB738]

@@jimjones-pz1tt He did that with both runs.

[@jimjones-pz1tt]

@@HunterB738 TFL has never heard of nor applied the Scientific Method.

[@HunterB738]

@@jimjones-pz1tt Very true

[@bret9741]

The only complaint I have on the Ram pickup line is its time for a major update to both the interior and exterior style. I’m appreciate how often Ford updates its trucks.

[@SNerd42]

You two look like you are headed to Dallas to sell some shower heads.

[@BobWhite-p8y]

Great testing, thank you! In your opinion what can be done to the 5.7 to assist with cooling? Oversize radiator? Engine oil cooler? We have a 2015 sport 4x quad cab with 3.92 rear 8spd and plan to do more RV towing. Looking to get ahead of a catastrophic event or buy a 6.4...

[@berndblabla4249]

Atleast ford still has the best V8 in it, the coyote. Ford will outsell everything from now on

[@Kalep_SG]

If you combine GMC Sierra and Chevy Silverado sales, GM sells more trucks than Ford.

[@slalomking]

The 302 is weak.

[@scottyellis3442]

The 5.7 is a good engine as long as you don't let it idle, idling is a lifter eater. "The pentastar" several people in my family have them & 100,000 miles is all they got from them. Four different family members replaced them at around that mileage. The 5.9 Cummins is the only good engine they had & it wasn't theirs it was Cummins. And the new Hurricane doesn't have a oil dipstick, it's digital.

[@a73bu29]

Idk what issues they had w Pentastar but the wtr pump is the main issue and the oil filter housing have to watch for them. Internals strong. Third one I had water pumps on all.. not that bad on the jeeps and trucks did myself. Cars more pia. So main thing change and watch fluids thats all they last fine make sure doesnt over heat or run dry of oil if u have that galley leak. GC now 112k runs nice and smooth engine and trans, power dwn maybe 10% since new planning on giving it to the kids in a couple years since paid off so its gnna get a real test then.

[@slalomking]

Yep, save up for new cams

[@Tylermaddox1911]

Honestly V8 should never go away we love v8s. It would be nice if they designed a 5.2l or 318 hemi. Turbo charged with a economy tune it wouldn't run as hard have a longer life and probably better mpg.

[@JarmelSingsKaraoke]

☕☕ Happy Sunday