21st Century Longhunter Series Shotgun SubCaliber Inserts

[@clamcrabber]

I've been watching your channel for a while, I just realized you were the guy from that tv show. Your youtube is so much better. thank you and keep up the great work.

[@texmex8220]

I just wanted to say that your videos have saved me from the tacticool, 900 lbs gear bags that some tend to push on beginner preppers, survivalist and homesteaders. I have been very slowly amassing long term use items, and ran into a problem of choosing a dedicated firearm for my bag. At first I was thinking "Well I might need something with round count in case I run into people!" But now that I am finally 21 I am thinking a good durable semi automatic will do the job 99.9% of the time, so what i was left with was that I wanted something simple, versatile, lighter weight than most. first it was a pump 12, then it was a 3030, so on and so forth. Then I remembered about a break action, simple versatile, can be broken down. automatically I wanted it to be 12 gauge, then like it was destined I ran into this video about adapters, and LONG STORY short I feel I have the perfect setup for my needs. sorry for the long post, thanks again :-)

[@deadbishop]

Thanks for reviewing this fantastic adapter, Dave. That really adds a lot of versatility to one of your most important tools. I love the idea of having a few adapters for multiple calibers and only needing one firearm. I agree that my first choice would be 22 LR, and then the 410/45 Colt.

[@lvpatriot7187]

Anything that allows for use of multiple calibers in a lightweight and simple to use functionality is great for your gear.I love seeing the simple ingenuity of people making great affordable lil ideas like this.

[@Equip2Endure]

Good piece of kit Dave, thanks. - Adam

[@asheradensein]

Thanks so much for this, Dave! I'm gonna order a 410 and 20 gauge extender for my single shot 12 gauge now, just to give it a bit more versatility; and I'm pretty sure that the accuracy won't deplete that much if we're talking about strictly shotgun rounds. Thanks again for the tip!

[@stevencaldwell838]

Adapters have come a long way over the past 10 years!

[@robertsegrest8290]

i have purchased 1 of these in 20 gage i have always wanted to have my h&r tamer with me when out running my trap line it is a short barrel so i can duck under limbs and things in thick brush works great i am really looking for next trapping season in Alabama i am going to get the 8 inch for my 12 gage h&r too

[@50L1DF0X]

@robcas631 I thought it was 12GA, my bad. Either way depending on what model of frame the weapon is, you can send the receiver of an H&R 1871 back to the company and get another barrel of your choice thought there "Barrel Accessory Program"

[@justinwissinger9659]

I bought 2 of these and took one and fired 3 550 rd bricks of 22lr through it within 3 days. Let me tell you these adapters are great and with practice you can be very very accurate. I use them in my H&R single barrels and my New haven bolt action, and stoger double barrel. Great product that every sportsman or survivalist must have

[@thekamikazi5105]

I gotta give it to ya dave. Your really doing your research on the versatillity of that single shot 12 gauge..i gotta buy me one of these!!!

[@dixieoutfitters7165]

22lr dont have to be struck on the rim. i have an interchangable New England Firearms .410 & 22lr and the firing pin strikes dead center. I tried some 22 shells that where thought to be duds (already fired by a rimfire) and they fired perfect. In my opinion 22lr should be centerfire. Great Video!

[@beatle1bailey]

I too would like to know you thoughts on the side by side 12 gauge? Keep up the great work!

[@tomsmestead1012]

Dave, Since I already own and shoot a carbine and a reproduction peacemaker in .45 Colt, it was a no-brainer to order a pathfinder 12gauge to .45 Colt insert for old reliable.

[@flamedrag18]

@Rivieratime or you could simply buy a Rossi Matched Pair .22LR/20 gauge for $150 or less. I think $150 is common man pricing and that's brand new. the 20 gauge is a good shell for hunting everything a 12 gauge can, you just need to get a little closer and that should be no problem. a 20 gauge slug will take anything up to moose(I've done it with ease) and the shotshells will perform similarly to a 12 gauge.

[@SurvivalInFlames]

they really oughta give you some kind of commission for doing this video. i just went and bought 3 of these after seeing this video, 45LC/.410, .22lr and .44mag all in 12 gauge. i have the same gun and this video just made my day man. thank you so much! now i dont have to destroy meat by using a 2 gauge slug or 00buck to dispatch a deer, just a .22lr. awesome job brother!

[@blizte3]

this is an idea to cross such multi use that be hard to be flexible in a survival moment and Dave's showing how do stables of food from different eras of history is a real good we need more self reliant people these days and so many other ideas are real help on ideas for my camping trips to test out

[@tomsmestead1012]

Next on my list is the pathfinder insert in .22 LR. Would have been my FIRST choice were it not for the shortage of LR ammo in my area. Makes old reliable even MORE versatile while oit loafin' in the woods!!!

[@JohnLock1977]

Additionally a small piece of char cloth held near the gap between the cylinder and the barrel or even replacing the bullet can be used to start a fire when the gun is fired.

[@dark2023-1lovesoni]

You know what I think would be fun? A subcaliber suppressed .22 insert for a 12 guage. Basically a suppressor that fits in the barrel directly attached to a .22 sub-caliber insert, off set so that the firing pin hits the rim. Basically make your breachloading 12 guage a single shot suppressed rifle.

[@JCrook1028]

That's a super cool item to add to a shotgun accessory kit!

[@nukehayes8346]

Hey Dave, I have a similar contraption that I bought a few months ago for my H&R Topper. Mine was a different manufacturer, and was aluminum. I would like to get this one, but you do not state whether or not the one in your video is rifled. Another company that makes some with different barrel lengths is MC ACE. I have talked to these folks and theirs are rifled, and made from barrel blanks. The 10" one that they offer is about $100 and will store in the hollow of the buttstock.

[@ColtenHenderson]

@TNVarmint45 Do not quote me on this but, I believe there are no caliber restrictions in Montana. On the other hand, in a survival situation, you use what you have no matter where you are.

[@jmdavis45]

I've been waiting for this. It was one of the things that I thought of when you picked the SS 12 g. Thanks.

[@cooperdisciple]

I bought a NIB 12ga NEF "Survivor" a few years back. The only reason I bought it was that it had been on the shotgun wall of my favorite gun shop for more than a year. It just looked lonely and for $115 I figured I couldn't go very wrong. I wanted to send it to NEF for a rifle barrel but they won't convert the shotgun frame to rifle. I've been enjoying this series and I will be ordering a couple of caliber adapters for it.I had no idea they made such a thing. Thanks for the info.

[@DaveTalksDogs]

Somebody else may have already mentioned it, but you could attach the extraction rod or something to serve the purpose to your sling too.

[@Yukon12gauge00buck]

I like stingers as well but I find they work better in a longer barrel, not sure if the 3 inch barrel does that round justice. Maybe something with quicker burning powder. Love to see it in 5-6 inches. Thanks I love the video.

[@IndianaTrapper4]

Is that hard on the gun at all? There priced really good and free shipping, think i might pick a couple up.

[@flamedrag18]

@homeinthewhiteoaks Rossi offers a .22LR/20 gauge matched pair, one gun, two barrels. it's only $125-$150 and is practically identical to the H&R in looks and function.

[@revisualize]

@Rivieratime From what I can tell on the website it says you can fire 410 and 45LC. The 45LC and 45ACP both have a jacketed bullet diameter of .452in (jacketed). I don't know, Just something I was looking at because I know you can get 410/45 revolvers and shotguns.

[@Bullbunny]

Dave i am gonna have to agree on your choice, The 12 ga single shot is one of the cheapest, easist trained weapons there is. Also I just looked on ebay, they have the complete kit for less than a 100 bucks, now you talking about leverging your arsenal. thanks again for you vidoes and getting people thinking

[@ryanbento1565]

Take off the butt plate and bore some holes in the end of the stock to keep them adaptors in, looks like you could prob get 3 in that stock, i did this with my 10/22 and have a cleaning kit with solvent and oil in straws, firestarting and fishing kit, and a small SAK

[@flamedrag18]

ever consider a Rossi matched pair .22LR/20 gauge? two barrels and two cartridge choices. you're not carrying another gun, just another barrel. this set goes for around $125-$150 new and 20 gauge is reloadable like any other shotshell like you showed earlier in the series. you can even get 20 gauge brass shells for extended life. I personally like the Rossi for it's easier disassembly since all it takes is to unscrew the front sling loop screw and just take apart. opinions?

[@50L1DF0X]

A few videos back you mentioned of having long and short barrel for the H&R 12 gauge your shooting, one for hunting and one for a camp/riot barrel. You could just get a .22 LR barrel and have a full length barrel than a little device that doesn't have rifling for more accurate shooting.

[@franciscopeixoto6609]

Hello. I love the videos. My opinon I think with a longer insert chamber would be more accurate just like any longer barrel firearm. I have a Breda 12 single barrel but Shortlane adapters is a good choice. Merci

[@tblbaby]

Rossi tends to be pretty light with the multi barrel setups in a bag

[@Survial9999]

Dave, Brother Thank you very much. Been looking for those adapter for a long time. Thank you again.

[@Myst3rium]

@38MarcW You can get a single shot 12 gauge for under $90.00 used no problem. I've seen them even cheaper than that actually, on Gunbroker.

[@JohnLock1977]

I don't want this to seem like a flame. It is not my intention. But that insert is nothing more than a short barreled derringer with a longer sight radius. That (Ruger Single 6?) pistol would be more effective over 50 yards than your convertible shotgun with the .22 adapter. And it does not require that is be disassembled to be reloaded. The pistol cal also be used as a hammer or a club.

[@unknwnshooter]

@Rivieratime The adapter I had made is rifled, I kept the length down to 6" so that it would fit better in my possibles bag. A .357 mag adapter would work well in a .410, look at the thickness of the cylinder walls in a .357 revolver, pretty thin comparatively speaking.

[@akdude182]

@thegeneral123 what he means is that you get a much longer sight radius,therfore incresing acuracy.

[@TheKodiak72]

@asheradensein when shooting a 20g thru a 12g using an adapter.. you actaully get better accuracy and patterning.

[@mapbike]

I like the 12 gauge single or 20 gauge single, but like it has been said, the .22LR is not only capable of killing almost anything the shot gun will kill, but it will allow you to take longer shots and in most case give you the ability to make multiple shots much quicker than one can with a single shot shotgun, living in central Texas or any other more open landscape the .22 is gonna serve one better in almost all areas from my experience, and like Dave said thick woods is another story.

[@unknwnshooter]

When using a .22 sub-caliber device, stingers are the last thing that you would want to shoot !. Stingers get their hyper velocity from the slower burning powder used in the cartridge, which doesn't fully burn in such a short barrel. Stick to the standard velocity stuff. To increase your accuracy, it would be a good idea to put a witness mark on the adapter and the barrel so that you will line it up in the same place each shot. You can actually rotate it around until you find the sweet spot !

[@Tanrichguy]

Very cool item. Yet another reason why the 12ga is such a versatile platform. Thanks for sharing this. I might have to get me one.

[@ssracer16]

another thought i had is i know rossi has their "matched pairs" and they use to make a 12ga./.22lr model with a wood stock. ive seen them online for about $180 granted you would have to carry another barrel at times but would still have the best of both worlds and its single shot for great reliabillity

[@TacticalMedical]

hey dave i was showing my dad these inserts and he had a good question sence they are 3 inch barrels would the bullet from ANY of the caliber inserts hit the end of the shotgun barrel?? and if so would it dammage the inside of the barrel?? thank you ahead of time for your time and energy for everything

[@andrewsheldonreeves]

I think I'll make a video showing my woods gun as a responce to this. To show what .22 cal option I use. Which is the excellent Ruger 10/22 with scope. I prefer shot placement over carrying heavy shells. Although Dave is right about how awesome a 12 gauge is. I do agree with him. Just the ammo weighs lots. Where as I can prey and sprey with my .22 all day. 3 cents a round has it's advantages. Federal Bulk 500 round pack is a good value. You do get a flyer every now and then though.

[@rapskallion]

I doubt you have two barrels for that pistol. Did you mean cylinders?

[@survivalkraft]

This is nice especially if one is carrying a double-barreled shotgun. One could have a .22 in one chamber and a 12 gauge in the other.

[@justinwissinger4898]

I had a gunsmith buddy machine a small line into my H&R barrel and Adapters that line up perfectly @ the 12 o'clock position and it works great..

[@SurvivalMedicine]

Dave, I'm lovin' the long hunter and yurt series. Better than any crap on TV (except Dual Survival, of course).

[@flyod26]

Nice video Dave, Thanks. But because of you video on the M6, I've fouced my "one rife option", (its the .410, not 20ga) around that. And again, becuase of your videos on reloading brass ammo, I've also adapted that information, to my M6. Thanks for all of yout teachings, and for all that you do.

[@tedteck]

For multiple use you could probably also use the ejector rod to deprime for your field black powder reloads.

[@Woodenarrows]

Cool deal. Like you said, it’s an option if you want to carry both types of ammo. I think the 410 option would be cool too, large and small shotgun.

[@mynineridesshotgun]

@thegeneral123 I think he means that you can take advantage of the barrel length when sighting your target.

[@MrEhud77]

@C0DY1921 I havent bought one yet, I'm still trying to decide which one I want lol.. They'll be coming out with a .44 mag later this year and I'm hoping that they beef up the orignial so that it can fire a .454 casull as well as the .45 and .410

[@Skythemime]

@thegeneral123 Maybe in the coming years, the company that produces this or some other company will add a long barrel that fits down the existing barrel and fits through a cap at the muzzle to keep it steady. Think of the possibilities. Probably not space efficient, but it would be a hell of a lot better.

[@agooch7890]

hey dave if you carry a flare gun now you can get inserts that fit into a flare gun barrel that you can shoot pistol calibers out of

[@TheKodiak72]

I emailed this company about sending the inserts to australia months ago, never got a reply. they are a great idea

[@jWARRICKm]

What Kind of pouch is that and what do you use to protect your guns from rust? These videos are very informative and I would appreciate a reply.

[@mahahaha017]

the stinger is a great 22 round but in my opinion the velocitor is a little better,, its is a larger grain bullet so its gonna hit harder and i believe it is a hotter load. just something for you to try out, ur in the woods and ur probly gonna have standerd games loads, ur hungry and see a deer 35-40yards away, u are not gonna kill it with game loads, but could with a 22, question is, do you or would u carry a number of buckshot or a couple of slugs for that situation

[@REFIGUY69]

Dave - with that single shot shotgun in an eastern woodlands like ohio-indiana -PA i could use that on a deer???? I'm new to guns--- i would guess u'd be using a shotgun slug and not buckshot/pellets like for turkey? I get the gun adapter for 22 cal.

[@asheradensein]

I know that question was directed at Dave, but I think I can answer. Yes, a 20 gauge slug is a very effective deer killer, even on large deer. A 20 gauge is a perfectly acceptable survival gun; the only downside is that compared to a 12 gauge, it is a little lacking as far as power goes if you try to take much larger game like moose or bear. I would recommend getting a 12 gauge one day, but a 20 gauge will do just fine until you do.

[@_Skunkfoot_]

People have been saying that if you practiced and placed the steel adapter in the same position that you would become more accurate with it. I could be wrong, but I don't think that would work because your barrel, for all intents and purposes in this case, is only 3 inches long. The rest of your shotgun barrel isn't guiding the bullet accurately at all. It would be cool if you could try some squirrel hunting with that setup and see if it's a viable option.

[@DustyRandall]

Did you try on of the nails you cooked the squirl on to eject the 22 case, then you wouldn't have to carry that rod, I would carry the same but pistols ain't to popular up here in Canada I would carry the the shootgun with some bird shot and some slugs for long distance shots.

[@BUCKrub91]

@hobo59 I was thinking this as well you could probably actually carve a piece of wood down to the right size and shoot it out of a pellet gun if you had to and kill or atleast stun small game

[@ViktoriousDead]

It is about the best single shot you can buy.

[@Bleys1973]

@thegeneral123 I think he was referring to "sight radius". It would be a lot.

[@squatcher77]

Lol, that pistol looks like an H&R 949. If so, that is one fine firearm ya got there, Dave. Heck, that is one fine lookin firearm no matter what.

[@Shadeofgray001]

Nice video. Maybe a small magnet might be an easier way to take out the 22 caliber shell quicker.

[@Maddawwg45]

dave i have that gun but its chammbered in 45/70 but u can have anycaliber barrel ordered for it im gonna send it off and get a 12 gauge barrel ordered for it as well as a .22 barrel the 12 gauge barrel is around 120 bucks and a .22 barrel is even less so that gun is extremley affordable for the common man and once i get the barrels back i will have a one gun option that i can use for anything on the planet including danergous game

[@Shrek45acp]

Excellent video. I really like 22 LR. I think the CCI segmented hollow points are the best though. Best performance I've seen. You can shoot a frog on the bank and he won't even make it to the water. Just a thought. Get a box and check them out I think they will change your mind on stingers.

[@rapier01]

Really neat idea... thanks for sharing again Dave

[@USMC65UH34D]

Dave, what about a double barrel with a 22 insert on one side and 12g in the other. Ready for either. JJD

[@phrankus2009]

Would most likely be even more accurate IF you take a punch and create an index mark BOTH on the rim of the insert AND on the face of your chamber ... Line up the index marks exactly the same, every shot, and you will group more tightly. And, while it surely is not primitive or traditional, you might also carry a clip-on laser sight, that clamps onto your bore and provides adjustment for windage and elevation. The advantage would be the very light weight, small size, and easy install.

[@flamesfromblazer]

What about drilling a hole in the stock or forend (lengthways) and keep the extractor rod in there held by a swingcover so its always with the weapon ??

[@Bubim1]

here in germany many hunters use doublebarreled shotguns or a drilling (three barrels) and they can just buy an "einstecklauf" (insertion barrel) if they want to use a smalle caliber

[@Grothok]

I looked on the site and saw nothing about rifling, does it have any? If not I bet youd kick the accuracy up a notch if they started to put that in their product. Also I havent gotten my hands on a single shot 12 gauge in a long time is the barrel heavy enough to have it tapped for rifle sights and would you consider such an option were it possible?

[@radikewl70]

Actually I emailed the company about using this in a pump 12g, they do NOT recomend it. They did however say it is possible, you just have to load it with your sub round then load it into the chamber by hand each shot. For more info send them an email and see what they have to say, dont' take my word for it.

[@dhdriller]

I think these shotgun inserts are a great concept. A bit stand offish as far as maybe accuracy goes. I too carry a .22 caliber side arm, mostly for trapping reasons so i dont accidently blow a huge whole in a fur i need money for. But regardless, I carry a Ruger Super Single Six, .22 revolver, with a .22 mag interchangable cylinder. I too carry a shot gun, but not all the time, only about half the time. It is a 3" mag, double barrel short stage coach model

[@6rasta6bhoy6]

can i suggest if you could make that thing into a fire-piston as well? since i've seen that you're all about the versatility and multi-purpose use of equipment from these videos :D

[@ssracer16]

for your ejection rod couldnt you use your 12 penny nail? im not exactly sure on the size but its a thought incase you end up loosing the actual ejection rod

[@trickyasafox]

Thank you for addressing the 22 pistol question!

[@Anson120]

My dad has a 30 30. I would assume that it would be used more for plains and desert places. The natives in America used to use small rounds in big caliper barrels for war. I have respect for the natives I think dave has the spirits of the founding fathers and some Commanche warriors within him. spooky.

[@micahistired]

Hey Dave what are your thoughts on using a 12ga side by side? You would be able to go hunting with one 12ga 00 buck in one barrel and have the 22lr in the other and all you had to do is switch the lever for the type of game you come across. just my 2 cents

[@camerl2009]

dave the little .22 has taken game as big as elephant

[@BamaBackwoodsman]

Can the adapter be used as a black powder reloadable cartridge of a sort? for example a 9mm shell reloaded with a new primer then inserted into the adapter and loaded with black powder and a projectile?

[@unknwnshooter]

@Rivieratime I have one that I had made for my .410, only difference is that this one is 6 inches long and that is exactly what i did !.

[@knifecollector54]

great video series , i love you channel i have learned soo much just when i found your channel today , i loke the videos and want to watch them all the time , Thanks

[@buckarue100]

A .22 cal. pistol with a decent set of sights and a reasonable sight radius plus a 100 round box of quality .22 long rifle hollow points can be easily carried, with much less weight and requires much less space. Any one with a little practice should easily be able to kill small game at the average effective range of your shotgun.

[@cayochr]

Mr. Dave this is an interesting concept. I am wondering is your insert rifled? The reason I ask is cause the insert is the only thing the projectile is in contact with during its flight and wondering how far you could effectively harvest small game and at what max distance would you feel is responcable with it? I am loving these "Yurt journals" and am a huge fan of the "common-man" idea. Thank you for making videos still! Also I would be interested to see diffent .22 rounds tested in this

[@opel1111]

@BigGameHunter91 Prob. because its much easier to maintain, and you can save shells a lot easier

[@neanderthor66]

Interesting product. Is your shotgun using a single aiming post?

[@motombocolombo]

could you also use your diamond rod to push the empty 22cartridge out, or is it too short?

[@tubeid43]

Dave, The inserts are available on amazon for 19.99

[@13rbridge]

thats sick will it work in a pump action

[@squatcher77]

Just a thought, but what is the possiblity factor of the .22 bullet tumbling against the shotgun barrel? Aside from throwing off target, seems like it could be potentially dangerous to the shooter as well as harmful to the shotgun. Like I said, just a thought, lol. Keep up the great work, Dave, you make us proud.

[@jnsX2]

Looks like Dave's gonna make another company hand out a lot of overtime. :-) Love the videos. Thank you.

[@DanRksm]

Awesome info! Hey off topic, what kind of jacket is that, it looks so warm and comfortable!