$ 22 mil Porsche 917 K racing at Nürburgring 2017 (revving & flames)

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@Belgian-Motorsport
@Belgian-Motorsport Жыл бұрын
Before more people ask, here's a short explanation about the engine. The 917K has a 180° V12, which is often called flat-12 Some people think however that a "flat engine" is the same as a "boxer engine" That is incorrect.. The way the pistons move is different for each configuration. In a "V" engine the pistons for 1 bank move in the same direction. In a boxer engine the pistons move towards eachother and then away from eachother. Imagine 2 Boxers hitting eachothers fist. Coming towards eachother. According to someone from the Porsche museum (Some people will know him, Benjamin from the JP Performance video's) it is a 180° V12. Even the info next to the 917 cars in the museum says this. I've seen it myself many times.
@greaser3069
@greaser3069 7 жыл бұрын
Coolest race cars ever made. The golden era of racing.
@StuntcatTV
@StuntcatTV 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever seen one up close or sat in one? You'd be surprised
@Elkins82ify
@Elkins82ify 7 жыл бұрын
The way the bodywork in the rear goes up and straight back leaving those beefy rear tires exposed is just pure fucking sickness!!!! An era of Motorsport never to be seen again.
@tinman4666
@tinman4666 7 жыл бұрын
could not agree more.
@nolibtard6023
@nolibtard6023 6 жыл бұрын
All the good things happened before we were born.
@mobius-1503
@mobius-1503 6 жыл бұрын
Preach
@brodieben1
@brodieben1 6 жыл бұрын
God.I remember those 917s from when i was a kid.NOTHING HAD A CHANCE against them.What a machine.A piece of my youth right there.
@fargeeks
@fargeeks 2 жыл бұрын
now it cost more than a brand new Formula 1 car
@jraybay
@jraybay 7 жыл бұрын
She is a beauty and she has a lovely singing voice D: Great racing machine of all time
@jraybay
@jraybay 7 жыл бұрын
Kronocide This is a shared account and I have some family who aren't native English speakers, that's life. Save your shitty reply next time kiddo. You also wrote out something that wasn't even commented in the first place. Great job. Stfu
@MegaJohnhammond
@MegaJohnhammond 7 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed by the number of people walking along, totally oblivious to what just past them
@easternwoods4378
@easternwoods4378 7 жыл бұрын
Like the guy with the gas can
@sgtpepper6379
@sgtpepper6379 6 жыл бұрын
Right? How are you at a race track and know nothing about this car?
@bloqk16
@bloqk16 3 жыл бұрын
@MegaJohnhammond . . . I see that at motorsports events: race attendees are wandering around while the race is underway; where I don't see them focusing any attention on the race course where the action is going-on at. Makes me wonder why they went to the trouble to attend the race in the first place.
@Pulsonar
@Pulsonar 2 жыл бұрын
@@bloqk16 I’ve seen that at Brands Hatch, many are tourists and are trying to see as much of the famous site itself. There are many race categories on race day nobody is going to sit through every single race, it’s heavy going. So they wander about in the paddock, the many souvenir shops, tuck shops, restaurant/cafe/bars taking pics of expensive sports cars in the car parks. Some are hoping to get autographs of famous drivers they recognise, there’s a lot going on other than cars racing, especially when families are there with restless kids wanting to emulate their heroes in the nearby go kart track.
@redhunnid5142
@redhunnid5142 Жыл бұрын
@@sgtpepper6379They’re there to network they can careless about the cars important people and rich people attend these events
@SuperExcedrin
@SuperExcedrin 7 жыл бұрын
1971, Mulsane straight, 240 MPH, 3 in the morning, surrounded by aluminum chassis/fuel tanks and gasoline............FFS that must have been heaven!
@Sadowsky1965
@Sadowsky1965 7 жыл бұрын
Mulsanne was the bend, the straight was the Hunaudieres. All the rest you wrote is great. Porsche 917, Ferrari 312 PB and Matra Simca MS670 are the best racing cars of all time.
@easternwoods4378
@easternwoods4378 7 жыл бұрын
I think the drivers would have backed off if they had a speedometer. I remember a story about a driver asking how fast it was. the engineer asked what the revs were, got out his SLIDE RULE and told the driver he didn't want to know
@hertzwave8001
@hertzwave8001 7 жыл бұрын
It did nowhere near 240, lol
@vitakyo982
@vitakyo982 7 жыл бұрын
The 917 LH n°21 did reach a speed of 246 mph in 1971 , only beaten in 1988 by the WM P88 (peugeot) with 253 mph .
@hertzwave8001
@hertzwave8001 7 жыл бұрын
www.mulsannescorner.com/maxspeed.htm There is nothing in it's specs that points to it being able to do anywhere near 240, also even if it did do 246 the Sauber C9 did 248
@davidmandziuk8493
@davidmandziuk8493 7 жыл бұрын
This is the reason I stopped watching NASCAR. These 917 K are an absolute BEAST. Absolute pure racing
@se461
@se461 7 жыл бұрын
This is one good reason to be a very wealthy person. All I would need is two cars. This one and one to take me to the track to drive it.
@hugof.7977
@hugof.7977 6 жыл бұрын
Steve A. Totally agree, but there is a plate (from Monaco), so you can take this on the track and go back home after that !
@streetracingsyndicate9512
@streetracingsyndicate9512 5 жыл бұрын
go get it boy ;) you can!
@fw1421
@fw1421 5 жыл бұрын
Stefan 929 You need a transporter to get it to the track too,and mechanics,several experienced mechanics.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@bocquetromuald7154
@bocquetromuald7154 4 жыл бұрын
Fred Barendse absolutely false. the 917 never killed someone, but the 312/512 ..
@jmzochsnrtr
@jmzochsnrtr 4 жыл бұрын
Lol ya don't say
@franklucas6441
@franklucas6441 7 жыл бұрын
amazing.. watched your video of her idle down the pits over and over for 15 minutes - what a beauty
@vic7939
@vic7939 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, while there were built 25 units of the 1969-1970 Porsche917, this 917K variant only 12 were produced for 1970-1971, thus the rarity. K stands for Kurzheck (short-tail).
@carolinehart9860
@carolinehart9860 3 жыл бұрын
Unquestionably the best racing car ever made
@shinichi917
@shinichi917 7 жыл бұрын
This video should have 917k views.
@Belgian-Motorsport
@Belgian-Motorsport 7 жыл бұрын
Duret François I agree. ;-)
@DanielTseng100
@DanielTseng100 6 жыл бұрын
It should have even more!
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 4 жыл бұрын
Duret François Clever.
@michelbieri8521
@michelbieri8521 6 жыл бұрын
I was 19 years old Sitting on the side of the road about 50 miles from Le Mans hitchhiking I never made it I watched all them car going by to the race No enough money for the train I’ll never forget Every time I watch this Porsche I get the chills
@siniyden
@siniyden 5 жыл бұрын
SO you didn`t have a bicycle ?
@johncarlson8029
@johncarlson8029 4 жыл бұрын
My all time personal favorite !!! Nothing on the earth goes up and down my spine. That sound maaaaaan
@bandit911
@bandit911 6 жыл бұрын
That car scared me as a kid and it still does today, my all time favourite automobile 👌
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 6 жыл бұрын
It's a lot of people's all-time favourite!
@bigdog1476
@bigdog1476 7 жыл бұрын
22 mil for the car and the support gu y with the gas can can't get a golf cart wtf
@bogthing1
@bogthing1 7 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say, he can't get a scooter, hell, even a bike with the little sulky-thing?!?
@easternwoods4378
@easternwoods4378 7 жыл бұрын
Got to save money someplace
@abystrous
@abystrous 6 жыл бұрын
+Eastern Woods fair point, gotta save up for the highly probable endless black hole of money this thing probably needs to just run this thing is so old now ;3;
@xXAlmdudlerXx
@xXAlmdudlerXx 6 жыл бұрын
22 mil and not a penny more
@freibier
@freibier 5 жыл бұрын
Well, as the owner/driver of this car, you have to assert dominance over your servants somehow.
@bobbycuesroadhouse2204
@bobbycuesroadhouse2204 2 жыл бұрын
The absolute best racing car of all time. Period
@heliopolis29
@heliopolis29 7 жыл бұрын
The best LMP1 car of all time.
@AndrewLewer90
@AndrewLewer90 7 жыл бұрын
Not true. The Mazda 787B is. They killed it by making it illegal, because everyone saw how powerful it was. That project would've easily dominated at Le Mans and the WEC for more than 5 years.
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev 7 жыл бұрын
Long before that, surely.
@heliopolis29
@heliopolis29 7 жыл бұрын
Not me thinks.
@boredtacos19
@boredtacos19 7 жыл бұрын
Lol the 787b only won because it sucked so much that they took 500 kilos of weight out to help it, and even then it was slower, and only won because of reliability
@Karibanu
@Karibanu 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, what got GrC banned in original form were huge budgets with no suitable replacement for the 962 for privateers & it eating into F1 popularity. Mazda were long supporters of GrC, but never really managed results. The Saubers would have to be the ultimates of the era from results... 170kg less than the other C2 entries for the 787b, that is a massive bonus. Johnny Herbert nearly killing himself helped too...
@soyounoat
@soyounoat 4 жыл бұрын
It's been said that when an airplane design looks right, it flies right. This 917K looks right from all angles. Combine that look with that sound, and it explains itself.
@SuperExcedrin
@SuperExcedrin 7 жыл бұрын
Race cars were so much more beautiful before wind tunnels and CFD.
@o.a.m9515
@o.a.m9515 6 жыл бұрын
@@w0nd3r6 he's an asshole for what exactly??
@mrpistonrecaro6483
@mrpistonrecaro6483 5 жыл бұрын
_D3LTA-3_ that’s your title
@90AlmostFamous
@90AlmostFamous 5 жыл бұрын
@@o.a.m9515 sounds like an sjw of race cars lol , How dare u not call modern cars beautiful
@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo
@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo 4 жыл бұрын
@@90AlmostFamous lol he does sound like a SJW.......
@LynGriffiths70
@LynGriffiths70 4 жыл бұрын
917 was developed in a wind tunnel.
@TyrantTitan.
@TyrantTitan. 4 жыл бұрын
0:55 What model is that? 1/64 scale?
@ericcoppala8234
@ericcoppala8234 3 жыл бұрын
One of the most gorgeous cars ever made.
@nicolaasjansevanrensburg7543
@nicolaasjansevanrensburg7543 11 ай бұрын
Agree
@stevefowler2112
@stevefowler2112 6 жыл бұрын
She's a beaut, and at 600 H.P. a real baest.. now imagine this basic engine and car (in open cockpit and much lighter at about 1,600 lbs.) with twin turbos and over 1,200 H.P. (max 1,500) they called it the 917/30 and it dominated Can-Am in the U.S. in '73....most likely the fastest road race car ever built.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 6 жыл бұрын
+Steve Fowler Totally different car. There was actually very little commonality.
@dawalt009
@dawalt009 4 жыл бұрын
@@thethirdman225 It's a 917/30 only difference was longer wheel base and twin turbos, 5.4 litre engine still the same flat 12 aircooled configuration. Same same but only little difference.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 4 жыл бұрын
@@dawalt009 I know exactly what the 917/30 was. Every time anyone brings up the 917 someone thinks it's an ace card to talk about the 917/30 and all the happens is that people get confused. The 917K and LH were endurance racers designed to a completely different rule and unrelated to the Can Am car. All you're doing is confusing people. If you think the modifications were minor, you are wrong.
@dawalt009
@dawalt009 4 жыл бұрын
@@thethirdman225 Seriously? 1/ Porsche 917, same name 2/ flat 12, same motor, bigger bore but with turbos 3/same undercarriage, longer wheel base 4/ 917 with roof, 917/30 open 5/ same gearbox The difference is like having a V8 Mustang or a V8 Shelby Mustang. You must see through the blind spots.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 4 жыл бұрын
@dawalt009 *_"1/ Porsche 917, same name"_* So what? *_"2/ flat 12, same motor, bigger bore but with turbos"_* So, not the same motor then... Massively different, in fact. Also different compression ratio, different fuel consumption... *_"3/same undercarriage, longer wheel base"_* So, not the same chassis then... Vastly different aero too. *_"4/ 917 with roof, 917/30 open"_* Completely different bodywork and different aero, as I already pointed out. *_"5/ same gearbox"_* Except that one was 4-speed and the other 5-speed... All in all, not a lot of similarities. Certainly not the same car. All you're doing is confusing people. The 917/30 never raced at Le Mans or, indeed, in any World Sportscar Championship races because it wasn't eligible. You're just trying to outdo people with claims of massive top speeds and horsepower figures. There’s always one.
@SVPSkins
@SVPSkins 7 жыл бұрын
Perfection, just pure raw perfection. Wow just wow.
@stefanreiman3527
@stefanreiman3527 2 жыл бұрын
This 917K and the C9/C11 Sauber Benz are the greatest Race Cars ever seen on road
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev 7 жыл бұрын
Monaco plates? Is that road legal in Monaco then? Just about anything seems to be.
@goldonilorenzo
@goldonilorenzo 7 жыл бұрын
there was a car in the '70 registred in Alabama.Owner was Conut Rossi of Martini e Rossi
@nolibtard6023
@nolibtard6023 6 жыл бұрын
Surely it is street legal that’s a perfect example for what money can buy
@ferraricorvette1
@ferraricorvette1 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can't believe it. Put its true! :-)
@dropje1000
@dropje1000 7 жыл бұрын
COOL. But not a V 12, The 'Type 912' engine featured a 180° flat-12 cylinder layout, twin overhead camshafts driven from centrally mounted gears and twin spark plugs fed from two distributors.[11] The large horizontally mounted cooling fan was also driven from centrally mounted gears. The longitudinally mounted gearbox was designed to take a set of four or five gears.
@JB91710
@JB91710 7 жыл бұрын
Do you mean like this? kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJirfqmYftmolZI Check out all me videos. If you can't afford to buy one.............
@KartmanWolf
@KartmanWolf 6 жыл бұрын
Actually, it is a 180 Degree V12. It's classified as a V, because connecting rods share crank journals. On a flat, each connecting rod has it's own crank journal.
@urgonnaluvit
@urgonnaluvit 5 жыл бұрын
You are correct 180 tells you its a flat 12 , regardless of crank journal arrangment
@surfside75
@surfside75 5 жыл бұрын
@@KartmanWolf Boom! 😁
@JB91710
@JB91710 5 жыл бұрын
So does mine! kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqCmhomifNuIqLM
@howieleem
@howieleem 7 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't those Monaco plates, making it road legal?
@easternwoods4378
@easternwoods4378 7 жыл бұрын
That was my first thought too. What a car to pick up your date
@paulthomson9709
@paulthomson9709 7 жыл бұрын
Howard Leeming pretty sure i heard somewhere that count rossi made this a road legal 917 and drove it on the road
@Logan912
@Logan912 6 жыл бұрын
Eastern Woods They're street legal anyway.
@merlemorrison482
@merlemorrison482 6 жыл бұрын
depends on whose streets - I'm pretty sure they wouldn't pass US safety or emissions standards.....
@bharath595
@bharath595 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, the owner made them street legal.
@STRIDER_503
@STRIDER_503 7 жыл бұрын
I love how everyone turn their eyes on her when she passes by.
@RammiejAudi
@RammiejAudi 7 жыл бұрын
Geweldig apparaat! Fraaie video. Hoop deze volgend jaar bij Spa Classic te zien! Eigenaar was vorig jaar aanwezig met z'n 908 volgens mij? Volgende keer wel die arme man met de jerrycan meenemen op je fiets hahaha.
@surfside75
@surfside75 5 жыл бұрын
Is this the most unreal racecar by Porsche!!! 😍😱😁
@georgiaguardian4696
@georgiaguardian4696 2 жыл бұрын
Looks every bit as 2022 as of now! Amazing design!
@johng4113
@johng4113 4 жыл бұрын
Why is the dude running after him with the jerry can ?
@recnepsgnitnarb6530
@recnepsgnitnarb6530 6 жыл бұрын
Why was Stumpen running after the car with the gas can? Awesome car, one of my fave Porsches.
@JanMichaelFranklin
@JanMichaelFranklin 5 жыл бұрын
Doesn't 180 degrees make it a flat 12?
@SuperRede4u
@SuperRede4u 4 жыл бұрын
How they could ever put in a "V12" in the description is beyond me. Why not call it a diesel why you are at it? Both are patently wrong!
@danjo1967
@danjo1967 3 жыл бұрын
yes - its a flat12
@constantinosschinas4503
@constantinosschinas4503 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperRede4u The arrangement and crackshaft is that of a V, at 180 degrees. That is why it is a V180, whether we like it, or not.
@arfshesaid4325
@arfshesaid4325 5 жыл бұрын
why is it that i never seem to see these beasts in slicks
@chuckselvage3157
@chuckselvage3157 2 жыл бұрын
Legend
@absolutelydisgusted8665
@absolutelydisgusted8665 7 жыл бұрын
Imagine how painful it would be to crash this
@Zytiron
@Zytiron 7 жыл бұрын
Pavel Rybalko I believe the word your conveying is "suicidal". lol
@ferrarigirl666
@ferrarigirl666 7 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same
@easternwoods4378
@easternwoods4378 7 жыл бұрын
For the owner, painful. The driver wouldn't feel a thing
@batvette
@batvette 7 жыл бұрын
Pavel Rybalko nonsense. They pressurized the tube frame so it was the first use of safety airbags. Driver was completely protected from any harm. Donohue hit the wall at 90 degrees at speed at talladega and reportedly said "can I get a do over?".
@SVPSkins
@SVPSkins 7 жыл бұрын
I'm sure the owner wouldn't be bothered. He/she wouldn't allow it on track if they were.
@karlphilipp93
@karlphilipp93 7 жыл бұрын
The greatest racing car ever built ,bar none. Even after 48 years, the sound of that engine gives me chills. If I had one wish before I died, it would be to drive that machine! Also, in another video, I heard a Porsche factory mechanic say the engine was a 180 degree flat V 12? doesn"t make sense. How can you have a flat V?
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 6 жыл бұрын
It refers to the layout of the crankshaft.
@johngreen8693
@johngreen8693 2 жыл бұрын
Stunning - with a road legal number plate?
@Belgian-Motorsport
@Belgian-Motorsport 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the owner lives near Monaco.
@toastopia1
@toastopia1 7 жыл бұрын
i think its great that they are taking these old cars out! if they sit, its the worse thing to do to these cars! drive them dont store them in a museum! plus these cars are being driven by professionals! i really would think the driver knows how much to push this car! thanks for the close up look!
@jkk20
@jkk20 4 жыл бұрын
is this the road going 917k who is in monaco ??? i've read a blog about that one.
@Belgian-Motorsport
@Belgian-Motorsport 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's the one.
@INDIGOBLUE555
@INDIGOBLUE555 4 жыл бұрын
Just asking:is the 917 being featured in the video a roadgoing replica of the original racing car ? I feel doubtful how could a replica being worth $22 M, so I do wonder if the owner did actually register the original racing specimen as a roadgoing vehicle in Monaco Principality...May I assume this car was the very same 917 raced by Porsche Martini team with Elford Larrousse and friends ? Then it might be worth tons of money indeed.
@Barrenchats
@Barrenchats 3 жыл бұрын
There comes a time in a Porsche owners life when getting passed, makes you smile so hard your can't remove it for hours.
@ps-mq7tm
@ps-mq7tm 2 жыл бұрын
Why does it have a license plate (Monaco)? 🤷‍♂️
@Belgian-Motorsport
@Belgian-Motorsport 2 жыл бұрын
Because the owner made it streetlegal.
@johndeere1951a
@johndeere1951a 2 жыл бұрын
Because it can .
@angelruben1835
@angelruben1835 4 жыл бұрын
En Mulsanne Jackie Oliver casi llega a los 400km/hora en 1972,con un 917,el mejor y más iconico SP de la Historia del automovilismo,una bestia,una máquina de ganar,una leyenda sobre ruedas!!! facebook.com/929048017281304/posts/1457538901098877/?vh=e&d=nmás iconico SP de la
@AidenWestori
@AidenWestori 4 жыл бұрын
Just wondering, but why would Porsche think that having the engine fan exposed, yet covering the cylinders right next to it would be a good thing? Am I getting something wrong here?
@INDIGOBLUE555
@INDIGOBLUE555 4 жыл бұрын
The point being ?
@bloqk16
@bloqk16 3 жыл бұрын
@Aiden West . . . the engine fan exposed was to aid in the air-cooling of the engine. I'm a bit uncertain about the _cylinders_ you refer to? If you mean the _injector ports?_ The bodywork covered it as part of the aero package of the car's body, and, to assist with the airflow intake into the injector's ports. Having injector ports in the wrong place can hinder the air intake.
@Erik-rp1hi
@Erik-rp1hi 7 жыл бұрын
What was that slapping noise when at idle in the garage?
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev 7 жыл бұрын
sounds like a slight misfire
@digitalmanolo84
@digitalmanolo84 7 жыл бұрын
Erik 567 Thats the sound of Horses having an argument!
@dvr1337
@dvr1337 Жыл бұрын
What does the "K" mean?
@Belgian-Motorsport
@Belgian-Motorsport Жыл бұрын
Kurzheck, which means "short tail". There is also a 917 LH. Which mean Langheck, or "long tail".
@secondfloorservices442
@secondfloorservices442 6 жыл бұрын
Won't that thing idle overheat on the slow long run from the garage to track?
@dawalt009
@dawalt009 4 жыл бұрын
air cooled motors don't overheat.
@bloqk16
@bloqk16 3 жыл бұрын
@@dawalt009 Ah! But there are air ducts for the oil coolers on that race car. The oil could overheat.
@chriswalker2858
@chriswalker2858 4 жыл бұрын
My favourite Porsche a 917K but in Gulf livery... 😎
@fandavidbeckham
@fandavidbeckham 7 жыл бұрын
I was at Spa-Francorchamps for the 1000 km of 1970. I was there to see Rodriguez and Siffert have a kiss. But I was also at the GP of East London South Africa in 1962? I might be getting old. I was also at Le Mans in 1988 and 1989. But I was also there to see Belgium vs France for the Davis Cup in 2017. MDR.
@picax8398
@picax8398 Жыл бұрын
props to drive 22 million dollars of car so hard after all these years
@josebrown5961
@josebrown5961 Жыл бұрын
Ahh yes my favorite Porsche! If only Porsche would make a street version today, like Ford did with the GT in 05. It would have to be slightly larger of course. It also probably would need a redesign of the rear so the wheels wouldn’t be exposed. That is just my fantasy.
@Patmofar
@Patmofar 4 жыл бұрын
@The ThirdMan The Lockheed SR71 Blackbird and the Aerospatiale BAC Concorde, were built by the same generation of engineers and like the Porsche 917 both of those remain unbeaten too. Nothing made today even comes close to those engineering marvels either. Your CAD/CAM hasn't given us anything that even comes close to them. The Boeing MAX is an unsurprising product of CAD/CAM technology. Flawed and dangerous. The calculations that you quote were correct when they were made. The long tail was quickly figured out to be an evolutionary dead end and dropped despite one finishing second in the 1970 Le Mans. It roasted its rear wheel bearings and its rear tyres due to the heat coming off of the air-cooled engine being captured by the long tail bodywork. But its main fault was that it was aerodynamically flawed. You don't factor in the fact that Porsche were constantly developing the engine getting more and more power from it. In its final (not Le Mans form) it developed 1560 bhp in qualifying and consistently delivered 1100 bhp in racing trim in CanAm where it was so unbeatable that it destroyed the CanAm series. Wheel creep does not matter when your have horsepower a plenty. It went to the North American CanAm series after the FIA changed the rule-book to ban it from racing in Europe because it was so successful. Porsche also tested but never raced an 1800 bhp version. With all due respect to you its not like comparing a Sopwith Camel with an F14 Tomcat. Its like comparing the Blackbird with the Tomcat. No contest. A fairer comparison would be to compare the 917 with the Ford Model T if you are going to compare the F14 with the Sopwith Camel. The warbird Tomcat could, just barely, catch the Concorde, a mere passenger plane! But if the Concorde had even a slight lead on the Tomcat, the Tomcat would run out of fuel long, long before that happened because the difference between their top speeds was marginal. The Tomcat was good for a short burst of Mach 2+. Concorde could cross the Atlantic at Mach 2+ and did so daily for twenty seven glorious years. The Tomcat was also replaced by an inferior aircraft. The Mach 1.8 F18 Hornet which was a lot slower than Concorde never mind the Blackbird. Engineers today rely on CAD to do their engineering for them and thus are not really engineers at all. They are only computer programmers, pure and simple. The genius of men like Clarence Kelly Johnson and Hans Mezger does not exist in the engineering world today. Nor is there anything to equal the machines they designed and built without CAD/CAM. This generation of CAD/Camless engineers also landed men on the moon, something else that is not going to happen again anytime soon. The Americans cannot even put a man into space today and are reduced to hitching lifts to the International Space Station from the Russians in their non-CAD/CAM designed Soyuz rockets. And, no, the CAD/CAM designed VSS Unity VP-03 doesn't count. It made a sub-orbital flight no better than the one John Glenn did fifty eight years ago in 1962 in the non-CAD/CAM Friendship 7. Whether you like the fact or not, the unbeatable Porsche 917 Kurzheck remains the greatest car ever built. Like Concorde, like Blackbird, like Apollo, over fifty years after it was designed and built there is nothing made today that even comes close to matching the magnificent 917K. There is nothing even being designed today that will surpass any of these engineering icons. The SS United States, the largest passenger ship ever built in America, took the 'fastest crossing of the Atlantic by a passenger ocean liner record' in 1952 winning the much coveted and prestigious Blue Riband. It still holds the Blue Riband today. It will probably hold the Blue Riband forever because none of the modern CAD/CAM built liners of today come even close to matching her speed or her beauty either. Not everything done today is better than it was before. Unequalled, unbeaten and utterly beautiful looking engineering masterpieces; all of them. As a small child I saw Richard Attwood and Hans Hermann win the 1970 Le Mans 24 Hours in a 917K with Willi Kauhsen and Gerard Larrousse finishing second in a 917 Langenheck. I have seen many racing cars race since then but I have never seen the equal of those monsters that just dominated all around them nor have I ever heard better than the spine tingling haunting glory banshee howl of their air-cooled flat twelve engines being pushed to their limits down the Mulsanne straight at 385 kph at night. Not only do they not make cars like that any more, they do not make drivers of that quality anymore either. I have also been privileged to fly Concorde. Bahrain to London, an upgrade that I really could not afford at the time, departing Bahrain at six o'clock in the morning. The upgrade was more than worth it as I saw three sunrises in one day, I have flown faster than a rifle bullet, I have flown at 53,000 feet and have seen the darkness of space and the curvature of the earth. I have flown at Mach 2.02. Nobody today can do this and it will be many, many years yet before they can do so again, if, indeed, they ever can. There is no 'bigger and better' today. There are only the unbeaten icons of history. Take your CAD/CAM and shove it where the sun don't shine. What you are claiming about the 917K is the same as claiming that the Boeing MAX is a better aircraft than Concorde because it was designed using CAD/CAM and is built using composite materials rather than the, mostly aluminium, that both the non-CAD/CAM 917 and Concorde were built from. Yeah! Right it is. Ha, ha, ha. My generation invented the internet and went to the Moon. Your generation invented Facebook and went to Playstation.
@nemindagamage9186
@nemindagamage9186 4 жыл бұрын
Not even god could have said this any better 🙏🙏, I however was born to the play station loving hyper car chasing generation but luckily I was blessed with the mindset of someone from the 60-80s era and therefore I only prefer classic vehicles and the way you've actually bridged the gap between the concorde is pretty smart. However don't forget the gt40 alfa romeo 159 alfetta and the other greats they too were invincible in their own right.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 3 жыл бұрын
We've already been through this and you left with your tail between your legs, calling me all sorts of names after you got your arse handed to you. Very dignified. Not.
@Patmofar
@Patmofar 3 жыл бұрын
@@thethirdman225 Glad to know you are now out of hibernation and doing well! Nothing has changed while you were asleep, The Lockheed SR71 Blackbird, the Aerospatiale BAC Concorde and the Porsche 917K are still unbeaten masterpieces. Stick with your Sopwith Camel and your absolutely wonderful, world beating CAD/CAM Boeing MAX. P.S. I am sure you will be happy to know that no one has walked on the moon again since you went to sleep.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 3 жыл бұрын
@@Patmofar *_"The Lockheed SR71 Blackbird, the Aerospatiale BAC Concorde and the Porsche 917K are still unbeaten masterpieces."_* Unbeaten in what respect? You've never quantified this, other than long, boring opinions. *_"Stick with your Sopwith Camel and your absolutely wonderful, world beating CAD/CAM Boeing MAX."_* Sopwith Camel? The Boeing 737 (which I never mentioned) was designed in the same timeframe as the Concorde and slightly after the De Havilland Comet.
@ferdinandhuergas6040
@ferdinandhuergas6040 3 жыл бұрын
Who says money can't buy happiness??
@harraz7489
@harraz7489 5 жыл бұрын
Horn is not working?
@INDIGOBLUE555
@INDIGOBLUE555 4 жыл бұрын
Well,if needed......just rev it a little bit :)
@3men2sify
@3men2sify 7 жыл бұрын
get the mechanic a bike t least!!! poor guy running after the car
@JB91710
@JB91710 4 жыл бұрын
When I was at Lime Rock years ago the owner wanted $1.3m. Damn him, he wouldn't take a check!!!
@iNSANEcOOkieMONstEr
@iNSANEcOOkieMONstEr 4 жыл бұрын
I see that Ron Dennis found a new job.
@davep1474
@davep1474 7 жыл бұрын
Your videos are always amazing! Do you live there?
@Belgian-Motorsport
@Belgian-Motorsport 7 жыл бұрын
Dave P1 No, I live Belgium near circuit zolder.
@byrondot
@byrondot 6 жыл бұрын
Simply The beast.
@i8nm3gp
@i8nm3gp 6 жыл бұрын
i always see those avon tyres on old school race cars
@Crusader1815
@Crusader1815 6 жыл бұрын
The front of the 917 just says "Get out of my way - don't even think of fucking with me" like no other car ever.
@jasonjackson3114
@jasonjackson3114 3 жыл бұрын
Multiple people speaking Deutsche in the background adds to the feeling of conviction.
@AKHalex
@AKHalex 7 жыл бұрын
0:42 That sound...!
@eriktruchinskas3747
@eriktruchinskas3747 5 жыл бұрын
I know the 917/30 had a spool system, im not sure about other models but if it does it must have been a bear getting it around low speed corners (any guys with welded diffs and no power steering who have to make u turns know what I mean
@Volldepp100
@Volldepp100 6 жыл бұрын
Ist not a V12 - ist a Boxer 12 Zyl.
@Belgian-Motorsport
@Belgian-Motorsport 6 жыл бұрын
Holger Henn Are you sure? According to someone from the Porsche museum it is a 180° V12. Even the info next to the 917 cars in the museum says this. I've seen it myself.
@Volldepp100
@Volldepp100 6 жыл бұрын
haha, what is 180 degrees - a boxer engine
@Volldepp100
@Volldepp100 6 жыл бұрын
V engine is 90 or a little more degrees - but 180 !!!
@Belgian-Motorsport
@Belgian-Motorsport 6 жыл бұрын
No, not always. Do some research about the difference between a boxer and 180° V-engine. There are plenty of video's on youtube. The way the pistons move is different for each configuration. In a "V" engine the pistons for 1 bank move in the same direction. In a boxer engine the pistons move towards eachother and then away from eachother.
@deaddoll1361
@deaddoll1361 5 жыл бұрын
@@Belgian-Motorsport In a vee engine the cylinders describe a letter vee in relation to the crankshaft. A flat, or 180 degree cylinder banks cannot form a vee shape, a simple check on a protractor will prove that. That is the engines "configuration" and changing the crankshaft pins doesn't change that configuration. A flat-plane crankshaft in a V8 engine doesn't change its configuration.
@SuperHeliboy
@SuperHeliboy 6 жыл бұрын
I never would've thought a bike could pass a 917! 4:55.
@Jarek_73
@Jarek_73 2 жыл бұрын
😄👍
@vallejokid1968
@vallejokid1968 7 жыл бұрын
Great intro!
@shonuffisthemaster
@shonuffisthemaster 5 жыл бұрын
that anouncer needs to shut up so we can hear the car;)
@klaus8287
@klaus8287 6 жыл бұрын
Just a monster
@Heavitrooper
@Heavitrooper 6 жыл бұрын
I would completely lose my shit when I would see a 917 in real life and some people were walking by like there is nothing
@markuskirstein5684
@markuskirstein5684 6 жыл бұрын
me too such a brutal car i love it 😍
@soyounoat
@soyounoat 7 жыл бұрын
From 3:52 to 6:00 this car oozes nasty badass wicked cool.
@epistte
@epistte 6 жыл бұрын
It was like Moses parting the Red Sea as this beast rolled up to the false grid. Everyone knew to get out of the way of the big dog.
@csmith9684
@csmith9684 5 жыл бұрын
You hear that project cars2 thats how they sound!
@adamhudson5014
@adamhudson5014 Ай бұрын
My goals in life-to shake hands with Bigfoot and see a 917 up close!
@superbracey
@superbracey 4 жыл бұрын
Right. I'm loading Project Cars 2 now.
@almstim
@almstim 7 жыл бұрын
Who came up with the $22 million dollar number? It's inaccurate. One just sold in Monterey for $15 million
@Belgian-Motorsport
@Belgian-Motorsport 7 жыл бұрын
I found that on a Porsche 917 website. It is an estimate of $ 22m.
@thomaslindsay324
@thomaslindsay324 7 жыл бұрын
the value is based of the history of the specific car, such factors as the reputation of the team, which events it ran in and has run in recently.
@YPO6
@YPO6 4 жыл бұрын
Run gasoline man run
@darinclark1853
@darinclark1853 5 жыл бұрын
180 deg V-12...? Hmmm....
@paolomargini7904
@paolomargini7904 2 жыл бұрын
After the 917 all the Le Mans cars till nowadays can be considered 917, because that is the shape, can make any variations, still back to that root it goes.
@KartmanWolf
@KartmanWolf 5 жыл бұрын
Baddest assest race car. But for 22M, I might have opted for building a 917 factory.
@georjaum12
@georjaum12 7 жыл бұрын
OMG sounds sick !
@Korino
@Korino 7 жыл бұрын
Flat 12, boyyo!
@theophilhist6455
@theophilhist6455 5 жыл бұрын
Poor old guy with the can running along with the 917 conked out after jogging a 1/2 mile and finally caught up. "Sorry Hans we couldn't afford a golf cart, we maxed out on budget".
@HDRAus
@HDRAus 6 жыл бұрын
So beautiful!
@neiltaylor2895
@neiltaylor2895 2 жыл бұрын
Simply "The daddy"!!
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev 7 жыл бұрын
I like the feller chasing it all the way up the pit lane with a can of petrol.
@gonzaloreyes8782
@gonzaloreyes8782 7 жыл бұрын
Le Mans 1970
@nigel900
@nigel900 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@adnanabdullah6482
@adnanabdullah6482 5 жыл бұрын
no earplugs, no nothing for that guy who lean over the engines..haha. ... say whattt ?????
@mannyschlaich
@mannyschlaich Жыл бұрын
Wow. There is no substitute
@nicolinobovieri7575
@nicolinobovieri7575 4 жыл бұрын
Porsche 917......the F1...to..wheels......blankets.....!!!😁😁😁. Very good 👍. Thanks.
@Pulsonar
@Pulsonar 4 жыл бұрын
As far as I’m concerned, the prototype category reached their peak not long after JW Automotive made the 917K a world beater with the ‘Kurzheck’ aerodynamic solution that was quickly adopted by the factory and every privateer before the category was banned after 1971. The evolution was so astonishing between 1966 and 71, there is nothing to compare. The next great thing to happen in endurance was the way Porsche engineered their 911 based group 5 935 cars into overall Le Mans winners whilst at the same time reworking an old 70s LM winning museum piece the 936 prototype to be their new Le Mans killer - manifesting in the 956, and 962 group C monsters that totally dominated the 1980s. ...Still not as spectacular as the 917K to my layman’s mind, for me the 917 remains an unequalled paradigm shift, forever the greatest of all endurance racers.
@INDIGOBLUE555
@INDIGOBLUE555 4 жыл бұрын
A true legend besides being a remarkably beautiful car,an amazing example of beauty and function blended in a winning racing car. Just let me add that,as for my recollection,the 917 had to struggle the mighty Ferrari 512S and M evolution whilst the 956/962 had virtually no challengers in their years. Time goes by and memories can be fading away yet I guess Porsche had no big deal to make it in the 80/90 racing seasons. Hat off in front of the stunning 917K !
@Pulsonar
@Pulsonar 4 жыл бұрын
indigoblue555 Dont get me wrong I’m very aware of what Ferrari achieved after their legendary P prototypes were banned after 1967 and Enzo throwing toys out of his pram in 1968 and pulling out of the WSC. The Ferrari 512S then M prototypes were considered a serious threat to Porsches 917 in all guises. Ferrari threw down the gauntlet at all and sundry, but eventually bowed out of WSC with one of their unsung heroes the 312PB (albeit in a post-917 WSC world). However, I still rate the 917K as the greatest simply because it evolved into a triumphant monster despite a difficult debut. It was perfected by Horsman and Wyer, the same team players that brought Aston-Martin LM ‘59 victory, and contributed to the LM ‘66 victory of Ford over Ferrari, and continued the success story with Ford GT40 MK1 LM’68 and ‘69 winners. It’s development and success was simply perfect because they were also up against the best and last of Ferrari prototypes before rule changes and prototype bans.Even in Can-Am the 917 continued and destroyed all comers. Even Mclarens mighty M8 series of Can-Am winners had no answer to the 917/xx evolution. You’re right Porsche virtually owned group C from unprecedented success with their perfect 956 and 962 prototypes throughout the ‘80s. But serious competition didn’t arrive until the late 80s, races seemed like a Porsche parade for much of the decade.
@INDIGOBLUE555
@INDIGOBLUE555 4 жыл бұрын
@@Pulsonar :) I agree,my fault. I didn't highlight that I I was strictly focused on the different situation on the field:917 had a tough competitor to deal with ,whilst the 956/962s winning seasons can ""almost"" be rated as a single brand (monobrand) trophy .... That's why I do rate the 917 project being in one of its own class, showing a possibly unequalled escalation in performance as you're correctly stating, making it to an unprecedented successful carreer in racing history. I'm an ex multi Porsche owner,about 14 amongst 911,and a couple of 944,ranging from the late 60es production to early 90es,and I deeply esteem german engineering yet I feel that the racing regulations of the 80es were,at some extent Porsche friendly.... nicely talking:) Greetings !
@Pulsonar
@Pulsonar 4 жыл бұрын
indigoblue555 To put it simpler, the 917 was the bedrock from which all Porsche’s future prototypes endurance racing prototype successes drew inspiration from. I am also a former Porsche owner. Unfortunately I never owned the classic 911 Carrera 2/4/RS etc... I owned a 928S4 for many years, Porsche front-engined V8s were rare but cheap on the used market (not so cheap now as the 928 is now considered a l classic) It was a fantastic supremely comfortable and easy car to drive at high speed on motorways, but expensive to maintain especially the infamous drive belt water pump and occasional ECU problems. Porsche make great cars but to experience the real world automotive success story, is an expensive business for consumers, c’est la vie! I may never own my true dream cars (911 GT3RS or 911 turbo S) due to family commitments, but at least I can watch vids and reminisce on those old 60s/70s supercar racers from the golden age that totally fascinated me when I was a child.
@INDIGOBLUE555
@INDIGOBLUE555 4 жыл бұрын
@@Pulsonar Yes, that was a great experience for me as well.Loads of fun and no speed traps!
@stefandominitzki
@stefandominitzki 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine this car drove the Nordschleife with more than 1000 hp. Must have been totaly crasy.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 3 жыл бұрын
It never did. The 917 never made 1,000hp except in CanAm and they didn't race at the 'Ring. The 908 was a better choice and that's what the teams ran.
@soundofeighthooves
@soundofeighthooves 7 жыл бұрын
Porsche should make a flat 12 Supercar
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 4 жыл бұрын
Their V-10 Carrera was something else.
@alexanderfederowicz
@alexanderfederowicz 3 жыл бұрын
In the Pit where they are Trying to Track down a misfire there... they hear it, but with 12 cylinders they really need telemetry software... Old School Analog needs a long hearing tube held to each cylinder to track down the skipping misfire... Despite what some think, It damned well matters, lest the engine blows from misfire over-stress half way through a race like that... Mandatory Analog telemetry sensors on the frame and other key stress points along side a complete wrap-around coarse film camera coverage of the entire course for the 24/7 of the Lemans Active Race, could have provided Science and Engineering with life saving data on the disintegration of the Ford GT-40 MK II that disintegrated at the end of the Lemans strait run... A Long High speed stretch where 200++ mph. is reached consistently by many of the Factory Cars in that race. The Forces at that speed can break an aircraft as well as a Road Race Auto...
@alexandervanwyk7669
@alexandervanwyk7669 5 жыл бұрын
Porsche, all other cars - traffic.
@SuperExcedrin
@SuperExcedrin 7 жыл бұрын
OK, I only ever heard it called the Mulsanne straight.
@thebossnocompetition8757
@thebossnocompetition8757 5 жыл бұрын
why is the mechanic running like an maniac behind the car? is he affraid that the fuel will go out ;)
@StuntcatTV
@StuntcatTV 2 жыл бұрын
I got that modelcar too 😁
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