24.3 Polaris Incoming | 4.0 Engineering Removed | 1.0 Added | Major Roadmap Update 10.30.2024 [4k]

[@whatasaverl6456]

Not believing anything until its in. Nice to see they are thinking about shipping the game, but i have a feeling this will take a good 5 years minimum

[@ablazedguy]

5 years to make a stub without any features. "Star engine" is in such a horrible state it would take a decade just to fix all bugs after the promised features got added, not counting developing those features themselves. They'll be bleeding backers and will release unfinished mini-game made out of rotting flesh and bones of the original project. Never trust a man who leaves his family for a woman who stalked him and threatened his wife and daughter.

[@TKanal3]

Yeah 5 years minimum sounds right, but what makes you say you dont believe a word? They never said it wont be 5 years..

[@roguereaper1330]

The only reason they added 1.0 to the map, is to tell people 'look, it's here, see? We promised! Here it is! We don't know when, but here it is! See?! You can give us more money now!'

[@T0ghar]

Promising a Ferrari and delivering a Lada Riva with fancy paint.

[@BeHeaven616]

At this point not even the elevators are working. How about we get the basics done first before aiming for 1.0?

[@Bad-wolfe]

so beyond the cosmetic changes where is the actual gameplay loops and content? A handful of missions is all they intend to add for 1.0 when there is a lot of the basic gameplay missing and those that are there are T0 frameworks. Maybe they start adding actual content before stupid cosmetic changes like clothing

[@Terran0va_Plays]

1.0 in 4 years. Like no BS i can see 2030 being a good target launch date.

[@ablazedguy]

2045 to add all the BS they've promised over the last dozen years 😅 Can't wait to walk around Arccorp on my nuclear fusion powered quantum PC while riding in a full-autopilot car..

[@rhinous1199]

Welcome to Star Citizen! This is exactly how it’s been for over a decade. Promise a lot of features for a certain patch, gut the patch of most content but still release the patch, pr spin said lack of content as a GOOD thing, sell more ships. Rinse and repeat… for a decade. Lol. I said this would happen. It’s like clockwork.

[@_Addi_]

People dont understand game development. People will always complain about this.

[@shawcobra]

Yeah, and CIG doesn't either ​@@_Addi_

[@grast5150]

@@_Addi_ People dont understand that every promise or statement out of CIG mount is a lie. The only thing which can be considered as guaranteed is the next ship.

[@_Addi_]

@grast5150 This just is blatantly so not true. They were the first to make a 64 bit coordinate system for a game engine, they were the first to create live cross-server interactions between objects and players, and they will be the first to make dynamic server meshing. They have created many holy grails that gamers would never get from a AAA developer. I dont treat CIG as a game company, I dont treat Star Citizen as a game, and anyone who does is massively missing the point. They are a technology company, and Star Citizen at this moment in time is nothing more than a playtest alpha for those technologies. Squadron 42 is a game. Complain about that when it comes out.

[@CarlotheNord]

@@_Addi_ Idk about the first to do a 64 bit coordinate system, but they are definitely the first to do server meshing.

[@Parobro]

see yall in 15 years.

[@T0ghar]

And then have a tiny universe where you can give up dreams of exploration (larger scale) and long haul with the Hull-D and Hull-E (not enough distance and possible destinations/markets).

[@Parobro]

@@T0ghar yep

[@wakelogger8357]

This is our fault, players. We give these people money. As long as we fund them they will do anything to delay features, because if they complete something the funding will stop.

[@neonblowfish]

Finally! Someone gets it!

[@guynamedmaggi5520]

I'm worried thats what they want is to stop funding so they can cancel the project and say it didn't work out.

[@IrisCorven]

If they're pushing Engineering back, SM 1.0 better be a DAMN big improvement on performance, or there really is no point to logging back in for 4.0. Pyro is just Stanton with no consequences and some PvP FPS. I care nothing about either of those things if the game still dips down to 3-5 sFPS on the reg.

[@fnunez]

It won't be. Most of the performance gains will be consumed by the servers running pyro. That's the reason why 4.0 is so important, without it there's no pyro, the servers would literally not be able to handle it.

[@DJCroBar]

Chefs kiss comment

[@echo5827]

How is engineering the only point in logging in? There's no content, it only does anything if you get damaged in combat, and there's still no physical damage system it's just hull health with penetration for components

[@paulyskidda387]

Well pyro will probably have better resources/opportunities for making money at a higher risk

[@pauldrice1996]

Look the game's wayyyyy to buggy to have permanent injury or death. The other day I just exploded for no reason like 2500m above the surface of a planet.

[@guynamedmaggi5520]

Fell through the planet 2 days ago on live

[@scrap_er]

I also dreamed of my polaris this night😂 and i got killed by a bug😅😂

[@dnash2131]

4.0 is pretty much just ships now they have taken out engineering and fire

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

looks like they are gearing up for SALES.

[@Bland-79]

Pyro.

[@Khornebrzrkr1]

Yeah, sure, the entire new Star system that’s bigger than the one we have now, AND server meshing, is nothing.

[@Bland-79]

@@Khornebrzrkr1 Considering no real landing zones it's not bigger in anything but size. The space station that was supposed to be a landing zone in space has been scaled down to just another station with others added which means takes far less to build than Stanton. But yes he did exclude a whole new star system.

[@MannyCalaveras]

Server Meshing is the only thing that really matters in 4.0

[@fishfighter2]

I'm so glad engineering has been pushed back.

[@Vioblight]

I’m not unless it needs it. The sooner the better imo. Too many solo big ships and not to mention big ships will be tankier and not paper food for light fighters.

[@metalmeltdown31]

I'm honestly not excited for it. Going to lose my ability to solo my Connie most likely. Something I've loved doing since it launched.

[@Vioblight]

@ well it’s coming eventually… I like to solo big ships to but I’d rather get crewing. We can still solo but if we get attacked for a while, can’t run or fight then yes. We got issues in the ship then. The longer we wait the more people will be disappointed and mad that they can’t solo their ship. But hey they can do whatever

[@AsuraDandy]

@@Vioblight Better to get Server Meshing into the game and iron that out so everything else can fall in place. I prefer to have server stability than another Tier 0 feature that'll definitely be super buggy on launch.

[@Vioblight]

@ if it’s truly is for server stability then it’s fine. I just expected it way sooner after seeing people test it like a year ago.

[@vulcan4d]

Im bored of the Polaris, it has been coming for too long. They had to add more bells and whistles to build more hype but no thanks. It is time to address the backlog of other ships.

[@zantrag]

Remember... Until it's actually in the game, and playable on the live servers; It's just speculative. Like 4.0, which will most likely not be fully realized until the Q3, 2025. Full-featured 1.0, a minimum 3-5 years away. What you wanna bet there will still be several ships, currently in concept, unavailable when 1.0 goes live?

[@metalmeltdown31]

After 4.0, they need to focus a lot of attention on optimizations and server QoL upgrades. The game is great when it works, but half of the battle is fighting the server to open doors and find glitched out npcs. Just tonight, I was killed by an invisable object in the air near a bounty. Like hitting a wall with nothing in sight.

[@xtradi]

The version number is just that number. Until I can play, I take it with an extra dose of skepticism

[@drevnii]

Good. If they release server meshing with at least 15 server FPS in 4.0 it will be enough.

[@Dac85]

Next week: Server meshing removed

[@ryanwho4433]

makes sense, with how much 3.23 was spready out across it's .x and 3.24.x. Pyro and meshing were always the top priority. But I thought the flares were integral to pyro already from last year's playground?

[@fnunez]

You're going to be too busy avoiding gunfire to care about the flares :D

[@Sleek110]

I think the flares are suppsoed to damage components, so they may wait for engineering before adding it, so we can keep our ships alive

[@fnunez]

@@Sleek110 That's most likely it. If they were to add the flares now with no component damage, then when engineering comes in they start doing damage, people would be rightfully annoyed.

[@echo5827]

Must be meshing sync problems. They haven't been in any meshed tests. I thought the same, seems simple. It never is

[@blackcrest3429]

Death of a space nan is still stupid. It takes forever to gear up or worse you wake up in prison. (wich also needs a heavy rework to be actually an option for player punishment anything over 20min punishment, just gonna log out. And if anyone wants to tell me i have to be in game for the timer to count when 1.0 hits this game is dead to all casualls nobodys time is worth this. No prison break is not an option. You need to remove your crime stat. wich already is really hard and gonna be impossible for solo players when big groups are gonna protect the sites.) you die to easy in this game and then you want to add hard consequences???? No dont do that. It will impact any decisson you have to make that inclueds even a little bit of risk. And big Events? For example org. wars. They are gonna suck if half the people just gonna loose their character.

[@kelleylafitte6503]

Thinking this year's IAE is going to be more disappointment. Starting to really see the seams on how badly the company is run when this happens with such regularity that you can actually tell the time by it. Voting with my wallet, cancelled my sub, no reason to buy anything coming up and none of the ships I'm waiting on are even in development yet. Time to play Warframe

[@guynamedmaggi5520]

I miss warframe might hop on it too. It's crazy Warframe has better ship customization than SC😂

[@scottgust9709]

SQ42 was promised in 2016, in 2024 they announce it will be 2026 after saying it was feature complete a full year ago...hate to tell new players, but all of the crap at citcon is 2-5 years away..making SC a 17 year old alpha. hold the line? cmon man, howbout "HOLD CIG ACCOUNTABLE" instead?

[@Haegemon]

Only 2-5? I would say is 15 years away.

[@Volf1916]

Only way to do that is to actively communicate with others through social media to avoid the game development until milestones can be reached and proven completion of features. You would be working against all the white knights desperate to get free swag from the devs that amount to vary little but it feeds into their emotional needs. Have to convince many to stop playing to tank their active user numbers. CIG has to take a real hit in it's ships sales for at least a year and public perception in gaming communities that are outside SC would have to be negative or at the most indifferent to what it has and is offering compared to other available recreational online activities.

[@juniasdityenbeger4506]

It was never promised, only suggested that they might be aiming for that as a target, game development takes a long time, I would rather they get it right.

[@Stewie_1701]

It was voted on my the community to not release it in 2016 due to the amount of funding that was received. The community voted to keep working on it and make it more then the original pitch was.

[@scotttimbrell8632]

Accountable for what? Not releasing a game they don't think is fit to release? Unless you work at CIG and know why they think 2 more years of polish is needed, then you're just chatting shit. "Feature complete" doesn't mean the game is sorted and now they just need to iron out a few bugs for a few weeks. If 2 years is what they need, then 2 years is what they will take.

[@michaelphillips3148]

There wasn't one content or feature announced at Citizencon that was promised for 2025 (not just working on it). We actually have no Idea, besides Engineering lol, what they expect to produce in 2025.

[@fnunez]

Last year they promised a bunch of stuff for 2024, couldn't deliver, decided not to make the same mistake again.

[@Sams911]

yeah, fuck engineering until we get 1.0 AND NPC crew and/or Blades..

[@davewills6121]

Childish, although you will wait, and NPC/Blades are not a priority, so awesome for the moment

[@UAF_ViVi]

Theres so much on the 1.0 card that it might as well be a fantasy. We still haven't even gotten 4.0 after many years and they're already gutting out the features.

[@ravenzino]

Can’t be happier for the delay of engineering. We don’t need another thing that could break the already flimsy game mechanics.

[@galactichazzard8932]

Could break? 🤣🤣🤣 You ment will 100% break right?

[@ablazedguy]

@@ravenzino you're happy that CIG is not delivering? How about they make functioning engineering to implement in the game and put it in? Are your expectations so low that you feel CIG doing nothing is the best thing for PU?

[@ravenzino]

@ Don’t get me wrong. I’m targeting engineering game play specifically. Breaking things that otherwise work, and then having players spend time to fix it, then calling it a game loop, that sucks especially when there are plenty of other bugs to fix and other features to deliver. It is no more than a time-sinking activity. Maybe it adds a bit depth to the game, but that only makes sense when the game works well.

[@scotttimbrell8632]

You do realise you personally opted into a place space specifically designed for you to test things right?.

[@ablazedguy]

@@ravenzino I see. I'd prefer if they focused on simpler things but they can't learn their lesson. Mining took how many man-hours to develop and after first 2 hours it's not more fun that good old Freelancer. Overly ambitious plans getting scrapped or enshittified is a symptom of CR still using the whole company to prolong his childish dreams (instead of fulfilling them). Children don't compromise and when they get bored they move on.

What I see is CIG addressing the main gripes the community has had with general management and other smaller problems. It's like watching a politician doing damage control. All words, no meat.

[@Hammerheadcruiser]

Pushing all that back is rough, but TBH server meshing needs all the help it can get. Without that, SC will never be what they want it to be.

[@bronxgaming4381]

Don’t forget they need polishing of the game time a-swell

[@Captain_Max]

So excited for the Polaris! Woo!

[@kaidensilva6878]

I just hope they stay true to the polaris having the refit, rearm, and repair functionality to the ship. If thats missing, the ship will miss a large amount of it functionality

[@wuskers]

Please read the entire roadmap before commenting, they will be adding patches in incrementally and moving between 1.0 and releases.

[@T0ghar]

1.0 after 4.42!

[@Bubblegum_Ronin]

@Cpt_Foxyloxy thanks for the content brother. It's always fun listening to your updates as you often deliver it with child like enthusiasm! I mean no disrespect, we could all benefit from a similiar attitude that could perhaps bring a little wonder to each moment. Keep it up!

[@Stormyy6310]

Me too, I also had a dream where I was flying the Polaris recently

[@Whoareyoucalling]

1.0 about to disappear from the roadmap as fast as it appears. Come February you watch 4.0 is pushed out and 3.25 is the next patch.

[@jdgomes87]

Was so happy when they announced Genesis. Thought they were done putting star before everything...oh how wrong I was. Genesis: Starchitect. Stop it CIG.

[@Tbernard-s2n]

Pulling engineering may result in more ship sales at IAE, i imagine. Knowing you won't be able to solo that expensive ship kind of puts a damper on wanting to buy it.

[@GiGod2]

Unfortunately as in investing whilst past performance does not Guarantee future performance it is a good indicator. Whilst its great to finally see the vision for the game its also very clear there is a long way to go to get to that vision. I sincerely hope the temptation to stay in Alpha until its all delivered is not realised or its simply going to be another 10 years before they then bring out another vision for the future , ad infinitum I would much rather they reigned in the ambition, decide what the MVP should be and go live, adding the rest of the roadmap as other games have done as iterative releases to a released STABLE game..

[@AW-po7jr]

Are they kidding us? They can’t put 1.0 into Release view when it takes a couple of years to get there. It’s probably a marketing move to trick us into believing 1.0 is close.

[@ablazedguy]

What do you think the "Inflection point" claim from CR from last year was? CIG does whatever sells more ships and that's it. They've learned that actually implementing something takes compromises and that's the kind of decision-making that an infantile person doesn't want to do, so they keep pushing until it's unsustainable and then scrap the whole thing..

[@galactichazzard8932]

Well, IAE is almost at our doorstep and they know they need to push real hard for people to pledge all they can. October hit them hard (all diserved IMO). 39% (less revenues than last year at the same time so about 6 million less and that's just for October). This is what happen when you prioritize selling ships & nerfing them over offering good gameplay loops and fixing game breaking bugs.

[@AW-po7jr]

@ Marketing has lost touch and is going to endanger the whole project.

[@scotttimbrell8632]

​@@galactichazzard8932 But weren't they up by about 5 mil in September?

[@guynamedmaggi5520]

​@@galactichazzard8932it's weird how people seem to spend more money on fun games😂

[@michaelmiller8078]

Shoots, I'd love to be able to log back into the game since 24.2 was dropped. That dang code 90009 hitting hard right now

[@st5pr0]

overpromise and underdeliver is the meta no more money from me Chris

[@alwayssearching4760]

Where is deleting MM on this road? Only thing I care about

[@RavingNut]

11:11 boo no fishing on 1.0... but they didn't deny it completely 🤔 P.s. it makes little sense to introduce engineering when the only "repair vehicle" is a tow truck. That's like having medical game play and only having medpens in game.

[@solatis6385]

Thanks for the Video! Very sad, engeneering is not in. But i think this would be itself a huge update which may cause many bugs and much instabillity for al long time. So it might be better to do "just" Server-Meshing and Stanton first. Hope it doesn't takes to long to bring it in ...

[@galactichazzard8932]

Seems like a normal pre-IAE move on their part to sell more ships and attract new blood to the game because so many left and gave up on it. Make people dream and deliver in 5 to 10 years later (if ever) so absolutely no excitement on my end. Seen it far to often to care anymore. Ships pledged 10 years ago still not delivered and probably won't be until another 3 to 5 (wishfull). But fear not, the PU servers might be a mess to log in and buggy as hell but the pledging store will 100% operational. Good luck to the believers.

[@guynamedmaggi5520]

They've lost half of their daily logins since around MM was added it's kinda crazy how little they care about us.

[@V1king92]

I understand them having to scrap engineering cause they need the resources to get 4.0 out the door

[@scott1506]

i paid £40 odd quid and i aint paying another penny. before hotfix game was an utter mess for a full week .everyone saying oh its alpha this alpha that etc. alot of parts still broken like game breaking stuff. eventually u get to a point like whats next. its in same vein as no mans sky. mile long but an inch deep

[@HitomiOokami]

think saw it on reddit or something but someone mentioned that fleet view or fleet tools? one of the two suggests that a Vulture might fit in the hanger bay.. if it does, then your dream of doing salvage with it wouldn't be far off.

[@emeldahay]

1.0 SO IT BEG8NS. 12 years after it started...it begins

[@sennemaa59769]

Pyro and Server Meshing is in. I'm good to go.

[@Cataclysmkingu]

Engineering would obviously be removed. Anyone with a mid size ship can't use it without a crew. Either add AI blades then engineering or it's just not an option. Gonna be refunds left and right.

[@Khornebrzrkr1]

I still think it’s far too early to start laying out concrete ideas of what the finished game looks like, but I guess it makes business sense after such a long development time.

[@monkatron]

1.0 doesnt mean shit give it a few years and we'll be on 1.372.8

[@hincapiej4]

Eve online already lets you colonize and build your own stations. They did it years ago. These companies are just copying at this point, fyi.

[@guynamedmaggi5520]

I've been thinking about getting into eve. Is it still alive and fun?

[@hincapiej4]

​@guynamedmaggi5520 yea, there's still alot ofmpeople playing it. It's changed alot over the years, but it's still being updated and plenty of people playing

[@RomainWhatever]

All of the star citizen science matters!! 🤝

[@Stormyy6310]

I know the Polaris is coming for IAE in a little more than 2 weeks but is it going to be flyable before that in the PTU ?

[@randomrick]

i want the gesnsis sound and lighting parts :D the rest can wait

[@fnunez]

Eh, in six months they'll remove the 1.0 column. They've already removed a bunch of stuff from 4.0, heaven knows when they'll put that back.

[@AlbertoMartinez765]

No they won't as its just goin to tick off what needs to be done with no dates given they can leave it up forever it has no time limit or end until it does. basically its just like the Squadron 42 List of work to be done.

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

I think 1.0 will stay here but the problem is there is no tentative date for that, it can last for another decade if they really want to

[@Volf1916]

they in fairness (not hype, as a lot of it was put in broken) have moved a number of items over the last month from the 4.0 build into the current 3.24.X PTU builds

[@eavdmeer]

Wow, call me a cynic, but that 1.0 thing is one big vaporware display. It's literally nothing but marketing hype. This really doesn't belong in there.

[@davewills6121]

Star Citizen/Elite Dangerous.....both companies and games from the stable of British developers

[@DanteSerrano007]

Given their current delivery status, promises for this year, and the state of the servers and game, all of this sounds like unsupportable fiction. I hope they can attract new backers to pay because my wallet is closed.

[@davewills6121]

I know i'll just end up buying them all day1, also get them on trial in Imperator, all rosy.

[@VortexStolenName]

You can fit a Vulture in the Polaris hangar.

[@AcidRaine42]

No engineering in 4.0? And just like that I'll be waiting to play...again. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@HelloStarCitizens]

You mean to tell me after 12 years that they finally have a plan? Lmao

[@mikegilkey]

Ai blades is what Makes an interested in.

[@Bland-79]

Adding 1.0 the way they did is unacceptable. Now we will have no guarantee of any major content patches until 1.0 which could be years. This is just an excuse to completely keep us out of the loop now.

[@ShevaiAsan]

They already said 1.0 is within 12-18 months.

[@orbitalpotato9940]

did you not watch the video? it was covered.

[@AlbertoMartinez765]

@@ShevaiAsan haha No your Both wrong, what CR said was that "Base Building and Monster Hunting" were 12 to 18 months away NOT 1.0 that has NO Date at all. As for the original Poster @Bland-79 they are giving us a Roadmap that will tick off what's needed to release 1.0 so we can follow along as we get closer and closer to 1.0 so in fact the Opposite of what your saying.

[@Bland-79]

@@ShevaiAsan When and where did they say that?

[@Bland-79]

@@AlbertoMartinez765 Follow along? Explain? Look more to me like no more updates about anything being ready until it comes out to me. There are many other thing like bounty hunting, exploration mechanics, AI crew, and many other things that are suddenly not there that they where working on.

[@dr.warner2288]

WHAT happened to AI Crew in this list of upcoming features? Are we no longer getting that?

[@zir3ael811]

AI blades were mentioned for 1.0…

[@dr.warner2288]

@zir3ael811 I thought AI blades were just automated turrets not necessarily crew. Thank you for the correction

[@violetvex4154]

NPC crew was confirmed as post 1.0

[@FritzOFN]

Wait...so the game will go from Alpha 4...skip BETA, then go straight for Release 1.0 ?!?!?!

[@antoniopaivadasilva2716]

What do they mean by death of a spaceman? If you sustain injury there will be no way to heal it however severe? When you die what do they mean by permanently? And how would we continue to play the game? This worries me.

[@indogneedo]

in 2023 CitCon they have shown limb replacements.. so you could lose a leg and then replace it with an robotic one. So technically its a permanent injury ( until your character dies ) but you can still play normally .. maybe you limp a little, who knows.

[@EC_USC]

Hey! The Polaris is in my dreams, too 😂

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

You were in my dream Silent. o7

[@Volf1916]

and only in dreams.

[@corvoadam5598]

Since you were talking about the Banu merchantman and kraken, why not do a video about those ships and other older ships if they will change thier style or look or both just like the galaxy, would love to hear your opinion

[@DomBogey94]

The permanent death thing sounds dumb. It's a game for f sake. Don't want to worry about losing my character....

[@Haegemon]

It's not permanent for the player. It's just for your avatar. You have to use the character creator and create another avatar so he can inherit the properties. It's an old fashioned game, and in old games when you had spent your lifes was game over. It makes you value more the risks.

[@fnunez]

@@Haegemon No, it gives power to trolls who have nothing to lose. You think losing your cargo to a moron in a hospital gown is annoying? try losing all the rep you've spent weeks accumulating.

[@EXRAY479]

wait does this mean no engineering and etc until 1.0?

[@Grandpa_pc]

I do not feel bad for any backers that continue to get scammed 😂

[@ALEX_JOTA]

1.0? See you there in 2047 if I'm still alive 🤭🤣

[@johnnymclemore8255]

I thought the medical variant of the Terrapin was going to be released during IAE?

[@amigo3284]

Wonder when Polaris will be released to fly in 3.24.3.

[@charleslamour5693]

IAE end of November !

[@fnunez]

It will be during IAE, it's the game's first true capital ship so it will be the big thing during RSI day. It might be flyable in the PTU a few days before. OMFG, I just realized it will probably be rentable. New Babbage is going to look like an imperial garrison in Coruscant.

[@amigo3284]

@ I won’t it be in a PTU first?

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

It might be in the PTU for testing and especially the for big "M" hype for IAE, judging my usually CIG behavior

[@Volf1916]

RSI day during IAE.

[@TKanal3]

They want 4.0 in 2024 thats why.

[@ShadowGirl-]

They better have pledge item buy back in the game by 1.0...

[@fnunez]

It's speculative.

[@Bland-79]

1.0 is not even a skeleton of what they promised. This sounds like an excuse to say they finished the game and stop development at any point they choose with no repercussions.

[@rhinous1199]

Sweet summer child, first time here? Welcome to the Verse!

[@Fragnatix]

@@rhinous1199 CIG is getting dry in cash, they have to release something legally

[@Volf1916]

Nah, can just change the name 1.0 to Beta 1.0 and like other games that sit in Beta testing for 3-7 years. Its 'normal'. Development and new ships released as the OP meta ship can continue for sales, add feature creep with game mechanics that are not planned in SC but can be found in other games for the past 10 years, or even micro transaction more fluff or paints for bases maybe.

[@UNBE4R4BLE]

Nah CIG have too many game assets to throw it all away, consequently SC will be epic

[@Bland-79]

@@Volf1916 I would prefer that so at least I know they will not stop before all the star systems are in and game loops.

[@Stormyy6310]

Where's the Polaris William ?

[@faintanomaly]

4.0 stable in February 1.0 stable in 2026

[@T0ghar]

No way they can ship 1.0 in the same year they want to ship SQ42.

[@yexiu5649]

This guy pronoucing the word guild so incorrectly will forever hunt me 😂

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

lol...hope you got insurance

[@UNBE4R4BLE]

What i don't know i don't miss

[@skaven3188]

they removed engineering 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@pikaskew]

Still waiting on SATABall :)

[@GEARHOME83]

The comments are enough to make your eyes pop, there's always one more stupid than the other 🤣

[@VaxxedNPC]

Snort the line (of copium)

[@sennemaa59769]

Guess 5 < 10 years

[@kyosun4136]

Yes, dreams are weird. Hahaha

[@monsterrigs8104]

1.0 is so far off it’s not funny. They are only talking about it because they don’t want to talk about the current state of the game which is unplayable for much of the day.

[@BigJTT]

4.0 🔫 *CIG*

[@Pa1ad1no]

Speculation: No engineering now, so they can "nerf" the ship after with it.

[@Volf1916]

Cool the 1.0 beta is listed. Moving up from an alpha someday "soon". Keep chuckling how everyone thinks 1.0 was going to be the release patch with no Beta.

[@Toyme]

Its Guilds not guys xd

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

xD

[@isaacmack1316]

I don't get the hole permanent death. Kinda sounds like if you die then what you can't play the game like I don't get it lol I am more than likely over thinking . Someone help haha

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Ok I will make a short video on this topic soon.

[@mymaudlincareer]

so its supposed to be that when you die you get revived/cloned but after enough deaths your next of kin inherits your shit and you just pay a death tax and lose some rep. if you keep ships insured you get to back their value and if you spend money on a ship before 1.0 it comes with permanent warranty so instead of getting money you get the actual ship which will be good for rarer or harder to build ships and larger ships

[@Volf1916]

Ok think of it this way. currently players that die, can get a clone with a old copy of their mind and keep their stuff, in most cases. This includes keeping all your inventory, ships, ingame credits you have earned, vehicles but maybe lose the clothes on your back or supplies on a ship you have to claim. Permanent death, everything ingame goes poof, you reset by starting out rebuilding your character (there is a save feature so you can just make a duplicate look alike fast). You keep what was in your fleet (items purchased with real money). Marketing found a way to motivate more ships to be purchased with real world money rather than players getting stuff with ingame credits. Pushes away from "all you need to play and advance is a starter ship and package like the Aurora or Mustang" narrative. Pure profit for the predatory marketing efforts. And we still get to wait and see how they will include micro transactions into the game build after they tailor the interface to favor consuls rather than the computer using backers.

[@isaacmack1316]

@Volf1916 i feel like thers alot of ways this could go bad. I mean, I do get it, but I see a lot of bull that could happen. Game bugs, you get stuck now. You need to kill ur self ok their goes one or maybe more depending on how many times it happens in a play session. Or people in an organization keeps harassing you, making you die over and over and then having to re set to the point now u permadeath . Would suck even more for solos. The game is already hard enough without the death thing . Time it takes to get your ship back. Time it takes to get to your body or ship before someone steals ur stuff. And other things I could go on for. I get the realistic thing, but it's beginning to go too far. It's not like we have this in real life, so how is it actually realistic at this point when that's what they are going for.

[@fnunez]

It's going to be like a partial wipe. You'll lose all rep (that's going to sting) and have to pay an inheritance tax because you won't be playing the character that died, you'll be playing his long-lost nephew or whatever who inherited all his stuff. In theory it sounds good, makes you play more carefully and take less dumb risks, in practice everyone who likes combat will quit after losing their NPC faction rep for the tenth time. Also, trolls who just play for the salt mining will have a field day playing kamikaze.

[@zir3ael811]

Absolutely disappointed with engineering entirely removed from 4.0

[@MrPeacemaker654]

that means these filthy MAstermodes will stay in. So the game is cancelled for me

[@briangueringer3673]

Yeah MM is just godawful. But they had to make it work on consoles.....

[@Volf1916]

Master modes has constricted the value of knowledge, experience and skill with the ships to slower longer time on target bumper car style combat actions. Maybe one day they will not feel the need to keep it to help them reinforce the "new ship always most OP" sales model where master modes is a lesser consideration when flying the "new hotness" meta ship.?

[@zantrag]

You kidding me?.. You want realistic physics, and flight characteristics in the "best damn space sim, ever"..?? I enjoy trying to figure out the power controls, and what "mode" I'm in while being shot to pieces. Don't you?

[@briangueringer3673]

@Volf1916 The truth is SC is simply going to be No Mans Sky for adults... Nothing in the game feels good to do. The quality of the game loops is azz.

[@Sleek110]

@@Volf1916 I think the problem is they always wanted it to be world war 2 in space. There was the light fighter meta as well but that could have been toned down in other ways, I think it was simply the view of the game creators to make a world war 2 space game, with close formations of ships moving at slow enough speeds to fight within visual range. They dropped the ball by giving us speed for so long, so many got used to it and adapted to it, then take it away and now it feels sluggish, i suspect if we always had speeds like this we would be less annoyed. The game from the first kick starter trailer was a close range dog fight within visual range at kind of slow speeds.

[@WarlockSRB]

@Cpt_Foxyloxy did you notice Fire and Engineering are removed? :)

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

yeah, not only those, even the Transit Refactor is also removed which is really important.

[@WarlockSRB]

@@cpt_foxyloxy that one I didn't even notice lol me... yeah, that one is much more important then fire and engineering TBH...