243 vs 6.5 vs 7mm-08 vs 308: Not Even Close?

[@prepperdad602]

Something I really appreciate about your vids is that you get right to it. No messing around for 3 min talking about things. Much love

[@scottroder5516]

I agree. He just jumps to it.

[@mhughes1160]

Pressure treated lumber is chemically treated to help prevent decay it has nothing to do with the strength of the wood Shooting some rounds through wood knots ( extra hard wood) And some through clear wood , is not a fair comparison .

[@14goldmedals]

@@mhughes1160100% agree about knots. That first block was 75% hard as hell knot!

[@maurelius135]

just like project farm - right to the content and edited to get as much info in as possible.

[@michaelweymouth4015]

Amein to that, I just can’t listen to the same 5 minutes of self gratification every other gun, gun law blog goes through. They should repeat their title and present the story and at the end, not beginning, ask if you enjoyed it to like and subscribe, what fool likes things before the experience? Do you tip before the meal and service? ( I have because TIP means To Insure Promptness ) but usually let’s have a logical order in life.

[@leokimvideo]

Finally a gun KZbinr who doesn't have 1/3 of the video as wait bait

[@mstrdiver]

Tape the block down to keep it in the target frame.

[@Grooove_e]

I'll still chose the 308 for its ammo variety and AP options

[@sheriffbart616]

Same

[@Penniwhistle]

For all those armoured deer out there?

[@Jackson352]

@@Penniwhistle Sure, armored deer. Exactly.

[@Grooove_e]

@@Penniwhistle Precisely

[@spacewater7]

Hey c'mon man I back up my NO HUNTING OR TRESPASSING signs with body armor for my deer. It's kinda tricky to convince them to stand still long enough, but it's pretty effective at keeping tree stands out of my property.

[@doneime875]

That old "relic" 7-08 still shines!

[@NickFrom1228]

It may be a "relic" but it has legs.

[@14goldmedals]

My real relic 280 Rem is just a little faster, 22” barrel. 7-08 would be my short action choice.

[@АлакПатрова]

7mm-08 rocks

[@letsdothis9063]

​@@14goldmedals this girl that I grew up with used a .280 rem. You just don't hear about it much around here. Great cartridge though.

[@duranbailiff5337]

In our haste to improve things and the spector of corporate greed,​ great things become relics of the past. I like old things that work. If I didn't, I wouldn't look in the mirror...MAGA 🎉

[@jasonrhodes7047]

The 7-08 is easily my favorite cartrige and next to the 30-06 one of the greatest and most practical cartridges ever developed.

[@DChrls]

And the 7mm-06 aka .280

[@joshshepherd5660]

I cannot understand why the 7mm-08 has never been more popular. Absolutely outstanding cartridge. Nice recoil. Super easy to load for. I've watched it kill and elk so I know it works lol

[@Yetified_Mayhem]

@@joshshepherd5660 I'd confidently carry it up here in the central Idaho mountains, for anything. I carry a compact 308. The cool new benchrest cartridges are fun and useful in a few hunting applications. But I prefer the practical.

[@joshshepherd5660]

@Yetified_Mayhem I agree with you there. The 7mm-08 has been around a while but, it certainly never has had the wide spread use of the 308 or 30-06 or even the 7mm rem mag. As far as practical use, it's extremely hard to beat the ol 308. A ton of great bullets available, any type of rifle in existence damn near, and proven performance.

[@wilsonrawlin8547]

Without a doubt! I'm still a 270Win diehard for outstanding flat trajectory and point blank range of 284yds. Plenty of knockdown up to Elk.

[@samizdat113]

7mm-08 Is a great cartridge. Definitely doesn't get enough love.

[@trappersalas5102]

7mm-08 i think is the most underrated cartridge in a short action riffle

[@Wolfpak765]

Ive been saying that for years. No idea why it isn’t more popular

[@1985Hambone]

100%. It's my favorite round

[@Slidewinder]

Thumbs up if we should bug Scott from Kentucky Ballistics to collaborate with Banana for absolute shenanigans.

[@waynemattson9143]

I was just coming to comment that. I'd love to see Scott's elephant guns put to the barrier test. My money is on the .416 Rigby

[@Mattguyverr]

Good thing T Rex's arms are too short to eat bananas!

[@jaycee30865]

Come on let’s not get hysterical. Hell that’d be even better than Harris Walz and we know THAT’s not possible...

[@goodbonezz1289]

I wouldn’t want to see that smooth brain on any platform

[@spacewater7]

Was totally going to give props to the comment until you mentioned.416 Rigby. But maybe it's the biggest one he has at this point aside from the Punt of course which is way too slow.

[@wilsonrawlin8547]

Very stunned by the performance of the 7mm08 a classic winner!!

[@StayProteus]

Dear Banana man - At the beginning the .243 hit the knot in the wood which is the hardest/densest part of the tree to the extent that most screws can/will snap if you hit a knot that large with them EVEN IF you predrill it (most carpenders avoid knotty wood) plus they're packed with resin (which turns to super hard hot glue with friction or heat including from screws) and all the treating chemicals including copper sulfate (if I remember correctly) so it's probably like a light duty natural kevlar (wood fiber) reinforced HDPE (tree sap) ceramic (dried/harden/compressed/cold tree sap in a dense wood knot in pressure treated lumber) type composite material. It's buzzword salad I know but couldn't think of a better way to say it, basically I'm not surprised at those results since a grew up in a lumber yard but it'd be cool to see a test of wood knots vs plain wood (obviously make sure all are the same lumber type like TYP/pressure treated yellow pine in this case)

[@wilsonrawlin8547]

Very true. Exactly what stopped that round.

[@lloydsims1573]

.243 is a deer round - good expansion, not over penetrating.

[@FrostyBob99]

I seen a video where a guy was shooting armor plate and the .243 was the only round that penetrated. 80 grain bullet. He shot at least 20 different loads at it too. He shot it again with the .243 and it punched through again.

[@JohnSmith-zk5pq]

I was thinking the same thing. That test wasn't really fair to the .243

[@Finnwolf07]

Yeah .243 looks like a varminter projectile, vs the other 3 looked like Barnes TSX know to be penetrators...

[@salacommander2674]

That 7mm-08 cooking at 3100 fps out of an 18 inch barrel is crazy impressive

[@jjw5165]

Need to see results from 24" barrel up in 3600 fps or more for .264

[@phillipardell5579]

@@jjw5165 but... who wants to carry a 24" barrel? Less accurate to boot.

[@phillipardell5579]

That's fast! A .284" diameter Hornady SST in 139gr does a job on whitetails, I've never had one take a step, I wonder how the Barnes performs?

[@BestlifeNomad]

I'd like to see the 308 , Barnes 130s that are at 3125. Vs the 7-08. Been using it for 3 years now. It's better that the box states for drop. On My particular rifle.

[@АлакПатрова]

@@phillipardell5579 I've use to carry around a 24" 7mag and it never bothered me. If that rifle was any heavier than the tikka 7mm08 that replaced it it can't be by a pound.

[@Tool-Meister]

For me, I built AR10s in both 6.5 CM & 308. I also have both calibers in bolt action. The AR10s are my favorites.

[@sorshiaemms5959]

bolts are boring have a BLR lever in 308 the AR 10 SOUNDS FUN

[@Four9sFineJewelry]

What about instead of the “splatter test,” you do a “water penetration test?” Line up X gallons of water and see which one penetrates the most?

[@andrews.7754]

And switch to soda jugs in honor of P.H.

[@727xer]

@@Four9sFineJewelry 👍 that's what I always did, and for recovery

[@dickdastardly8150]

That gets expensive really fast. I remember a channel decades ago would shoot down vertically from an elevated position into a large metal trash bin filled with water. Then could measure the splash from the elevated position.

[@JoshBeq]

Good idea and if cost is a concern, get water bottles and food coloring as compared to soda.

[@911clutch]

even a just one jug and see how it does in the steel behind it- like a variation of the wood block test? kind of like what he did in the video but measure the steel plate not the water haha

[@chrisblack6258]

I prefer the winner of the water target test to be the one that dented/penetrated the steel plate in the back the most

[@noclueforid]

Agree!

[@727xer]

@@chrisblack6258 👍 I always lined up jugs to test for depth & recovery

[@Bob5mith]

It depends on what aspect you are testing. Penetration, sure. Expansion, not so much.

[@Lero_Po]

This makes the most sense. It is barrier testing, after all.

[@scottsozmtns7534]

I’d like to see you test the 6.5 Creedmoor-.260 Rem- 6.5x55 Swede - .26 Nosler- .264 Win Mag & 6.5 Rem Mag. I think that would be awesome as a test!

[@J.R.Spencer]

Exactly. People are all enamored with the needmore but don't realize how slow it really is compared to some of the older cartridges that never caught on specifically because they were 6.5...

[@robertmajors1737]

If the 6.5 Remington wasn't a belted case, I'd own one. It's a pretty potent little cartridge.

[@wandofhermes]

We never needed a Creedmoor because we already had the 260. We did not need the 260, because we had the Swede but at least it was a short bolt cycle. The Mag's are different animals.

[@nobodyjones3624]

I agree, nobody ever compares the 6.5 need more to its 6.5 predecessors

[@hb9145]

@@J.R.Spencer Agree. We call Creedmoor a man bun round in Norway. The 19th century 6.5x55 has more volume and can be reloaded to slightly over 900 m/s. For such a slender bullet, it shoots flat and stays supersonic for a very long time.

[@RJBiteanerd]

That velocity advantage for the 7-08 was really apparent in the results. Copper bullets really thrive with more velocity. That said, I am surprised it was done with a shorter barrel. If it also had a 20" barrel I think there'd be an even bigger gap and possibly a punch through on the 1/2" plate at that point.

[@danflom1271]

Years ago I hand loaded the 180g copper x bullets in a 300 Win Mag. They came apart soon after leaving the barrel. On paper targets it would leave a small hole with individual cuts around it. Accuracy was poor.

[@artzi_ip]

@@danflom1271 thats strange.. i have loaded 300 win mag and 7mm rem mag with copper bullets 3150 fps from barrel and great results in 100 and 200 meters, not so great further because copper loses speed so fast that it isnt reliable in opening in further distances.

[@mojsmg]

I'm 99% sure he mixed the 7mm-08 fps with the .243 😂. 7mm-08 isn't doing 3100fps 😂😂😂

[@Jimmy-zu9gb]

@@mojsmg I know it's not the same load, but Hornady Superformance 139gr are advertised at 2950. 3100 is in the realm of reality if that's accurate.

[@TwoStageTrigger]

The 243 looked like it has a ballostic tip. Thats meant to dump energy rather than carry it through. A fair test would have all the same projectiles. Like all hornady interlocks, or nozler partitions, or fmj.

[@mysterioanonymous3206]

Exactly... You really have to talk about bullet construction for such a test and use the same or at least comparable bullets, otherwise it's a completely useless comparison.

[@sagenbabin8786]

I love the 243 idk why people hate it

[@js7127]

They are all Barnes TTSX coppers so all have a tip

[@PhilS0341]

@@sagenbabin8786 Because you HAVE to have a .300 Weatherby Magnum to kill a hundred pound deer. Everyone knows this. Sheesh.

[@sagenbabin8786]

@@PhilS0341 I hunt deer with a ptrd 41 anti tank gun chambered in 14.5x114

[@Mattguyverr]

Shoot paint cans with different colors for the splatter test.

[@Mattguyverr]

Alternative: food color dye in Mayo or ranch dressing.

[@Askorti]

that would probably be way too expensive. Paint aint cheap.

[@Mattguyverr]

@@Askorti He gots dat U Tooob money now do.

[@miked.8209]

I highly doubt he wants a shit ton of paint all over his land.

[@Mattguyverr]

@@miked.8209 He should collaborate with @kentuckyballistics and make the mess at his range.

[@richardmyles9182]

That 6x6 had some serious knots

[@Josh-glow]

.243 is a bit outclassed in this lineup, .270 would have been a closer option

[@jaedonhaskins9917]

Feeling pretty good about my 7mm-08. I thought 308 and 6.5 would beat it

[@bobbreit5244]

308 all day, every day. There's a reason 308 is the benchmark for every comparison.

[@toddcarroll7411]

Ballistic coefficient isn't there for the .308 compared to the 7mms. The .308 has always had the advantage of having been adopted by the military early on as their go to sniper caliber, but it never would have gotten that distiction had the 7mm-08 been around, not to mention when compared to the 6.5 CM, or the 6.5 or 7mm PRC.

[@mr.stotruppen8724]

Army contracts being the biggest one

[@charlesludwig9173]

@@toddcarroll7411would never have gotten the distinction? Here’s what we know for sure the M118LR round has an MOA wind constant of 10 at 1000 yards so a trained marksman can easily calculate correct wind counter for X-Ring hits. This MOA wind constant is relatively low though so a novice shooter will not hit the target at all with this caliber at long range. These two realities make the .308 the best caliber for marksmanship training along with its longer barrel life.

[@FerventReminder]

@@charlesludwig9173 Any recommendations for learning more about marksmanship fundamentals?

[@christopherrussell411]

Bolt action and the 7mm-08 won the splash test

[@АлакПатрова]

@@christopherrussell411 7mm-08 is the tits

[@Eric--zs6um]

Sectional density is key. The .243 ammo is not gonna be close. Both the 25-06 and .243's most unappreciated cartridges

[@727xer]

He could get the SD if he used a decent bullet 😒

[@julianeder4699]

Hed have to use one with a lighter faster moving projectile. I recall this video a few years back where some dude shot a target plate with about 20 different rounds and the only 2 that managed to punch holes through the steel were the .50 BMG aswell as the .243 with a 80 grain projectile (other rounds like the 300WM, 338LM, 308, 30 06... all failed to penetrate)

[@patrickgriffitt6551]

Try to get a 25-06 from someone that has one. My buddy(RIP) had one and every deer/ antelope he shot was DRT.

[@jeremiahsteele-e8g]

I use 25.06 for everything. And I have 30 guns from 17 hmr to 300 wsm. 7 mag and especially 25.06 are underrated

[@jeremiahsteele-e8g]

​@@patrickgriffitt6551works on elk too!

[@64samsky]

I have an early 80's Remington 700 in 7mm08. I run 120 and 140 grain Barnes TTSX through it exclusivey. They just work!

[@ajaxinfinitum5604]

yep, boat-tails out of Styer, .708

[@belphegor8072]

No one ever shows the 25-06 love...

[@Eric--zs6um]

That's what I'm saying. WTH

[@fruckles]

I've looked at the rifles, but they're never set up how I want them... ☕🤔 I'll probably end up having to build my own. ☕🐝🇺🇸

[@STdoubleDs]

These were all short action cartridges though

[@derekheuring2984]

Or the .270 Winchester.

[@andreisharma]

He will probably compare it to comparable ones like the 270 and 30-06 maybe even 338-06

[@smokedbrisket3033]

7mm-08 is an excellent cartridge, easily my favorite of this group. there's a sound reason why it's so awesome - it's a ballistic twin to a very old cartridge, one of the oldest of all cased cartridges, the 7x57 Mauser. 175 gr 7mm bullets may be the most perfect bullets for all game, even when launched at modest 7mm-08/7x57 velocities It would be really cool if you could devise a test based on bullet sectional density. one of the 155 - 160 gr 6.5 bullets vs 170 - 175 gr 7mm bullets vs a 190 - 200 gr .308 bullet

[@hcgoode7675]

Great seeing that caliber compared side by side. These are great tests. Shows how well the older calibers actually do and the true difference above 6mm very well done

[@benjaminbradley3009]

The 7mm-08 is a great round but the 308 will always rule because of availability and price per round. Bolt guns for deer and elk. AR's for hogs and varmint.

[@toddcarroll7411]

If you can't find a box of 7mm-08 rounds, you're seriously not trying hard enough. I get tired of hearing that .308 or .30-06 are the best rounds because you can find their ammo anywhere. In this day and age anyone can find a box of ammo for the common calibers at a fair price.

[@mackelby1]

Fair price????​@@toddcarroll7411

[@mackelby1]

​@@toddcarroll7411 I can be at Midway's pickup counter in 35 minutes by the way

[@АлакПатрова]

@@benjaminbradley3009 7mm08 is at every gun shop on town. And nkrmal making the whitetail lime for 30 a box is reasonable. Nothing wrong with .308 but I LOVE 7mm08

[@benjaminbradley3009]

@@АлакПатрова haven't seen a box of 7-08 in my area in years.

[@davidwhipple5928]

My Browning A Bolt stainless stalker 7mm08 I bought back in the 90's has harvested a lot of deer and a couple bear as well. Still a great cartridge.

[@Stutters_McGee]

To answer your question. I would like to see you utilize the same style firearm with the same barrel length with these type tests. When testing performance for cartridges, utilizing a bolt-action for each round would be the bench mark for best data output. AR style firearms are great, but the semiauto function tends to effect the performance of the round if your talking about precision shooting or long distance hunting with handloaded performance rounds. Other than that. Great video Brother! Love your content. Would love to hop on a video and shoot with you!

[@timmebruer5205]

Ive shot a lot of different calibers and never had a problem with a 243

[@milrtp101]

For the sake of consistency of the parent case, the comparison should have used 260 Remington instead of 6.5 CM

[@727xer]

Thank you! 🙄

[@chadperry4021]

The creed was the right choice. It may not be a child of the 308 like the 260 but it’s not a lead balloon either.

[@RepublicofTX]

Nah, more people use the 6.5 over 260. He chose right

[@samgreninger6567]

@@chadperry4021 Until you get beyond 600 yds the 260 is going faster, has more energy and has less drop than the 6.5 needsmoor.

[@ryanallen8392]

And barrel lengths..

[@isaacrodriguez168]

Been hunting with 243 for over 20yrs and it's gets the job done even at 250yds. But I am bias because it's my rifle lol.

[@ebikes2xs159]

7MM-08 is my favorite even though I've never owned one. I've fired thousands of .308 / 7.62x51 Your test is about what I expected but good to know. Thanks

[@christopherbishop4927]

Absolutely perfect anecdotal historical account Sir, yes, carry compliance and training are completely key

[@GianmarioScotti]

Shooting knotty blocks of wood is probably not a good way to compare terminal ballistics: the knot area can be many times as hard as the rest of the wood.

[@DocJustinT]

Since you have most of the 308 family there (243, 7-08, and 308), I'd be willing to drive to your range and let you use my 260 Remington and 338 Federal since those are also just resized 308s. Can you tell I'm not a fan of the 6.5 Needsmore? 🤣

[@benjaminbradley3009]

Agreed!! That would be a great comparison test. And yes, 6.5 sucks.

[@wreckervilla]

What I'd really like to see are those AR10+ platform guns that shoot long action cartridges like 300wm & 30-06

[@PureCountryof91]

Noreen. BN-36 family.

[@msquared9605]

Bear creek bc8

[@jeremyjohnson3974]

You stated the 308 was an all copper this time. Were they all monolithic bullets for an apples to apples. I would really like to see you do some episodes with a single cartridge comparing different bullet constructions. Keep up the good work. Always entertaining

[@heinrichstoltz1356]

A bit disappointed by that velocity on the 6.5CM. I’ll take the 7mm-08 home, thank you very much.

[@ManOfChaiTea]

up to 600 yard, real hunting ranges, .308 and 7mm-08 are superior to 6.5cm in terms of energy.

[@BestlifeNomad]

The 308. Shoots at 3125 for the 130s.... I feel like he can use faster rounds.

[@goinrich25]

The 7mm-08 is a very underrated round. I’ve had mine for a couple of years now and have been super happy with it. It’s a lot more accurate and deadly than most people give it credit for.

[@elektro3000]

What no .338 Federal or .358 Winchester??? We got cheated! Also, I watched this video and am typing this comment on the toilet. You know us so well.

[@scottythebody0811]

I’m sure because of the ammo availability.

[@renaissanceman7145]

I have an AR-10 in 338 Federal and another in 358 Winchester. Both are great cartridges. (I also have AR-10s in 308 Winchester, 300 Remington SAUM, 7mm WSM and 300 WSM. Good times.) Edit - I also wrote this while on the throne. 🦓🖖

[@scottythebody0811]

@@renaissanceman7145 AR in 300 WSM? Yes please. Talk about a sledgehammer.

[@johnwilburn8319]

I think the .358 would be pretty rough on that timber?

[@jacobackley502]

I do love my 338 fed. The 200gr speer hot cors shoot very well and are great medium to large game projectiles

[@blackie1of4]

The 7mm-08 Remington is a great cartridge! I bought my first 7mm-08 Remington 700 back in 2001.. I had no idea what I was missing 😊 It actually was my second rifle! My first center-fire was a Savage 110 30-06 Springfield.

[@ruck27]

It’s insane how cool Ray Ramano has got these days

[@randallingram7992]

I've been very happy with my weatherby in 7mm08. It is by far my favorite all around carbine. I gave it to my son and soon realized I made a big mistake. I traded him out of it the following season. Its just a sweet round, especially with the weatherby muzzle brake.

[@HeadsetHead]

Don't let bananas drive you ballistic

[@Salieri47]

Thank for an entertaining vid! I see comments suggesting .243 is no longer very popular (FIIK), I recall it being very popular in the early '80s.

[@evilreddog]

i have a dream, that one day a gun tuber would test the 7.5FK BRNO vs 5.7mm and 4.6mm

[@onpsxmember]

There are already tests with the latter two. Search for "Nato pdw trials: the forbidden saga.

[@sithus1966]

Love my Remington Model 7 in 7mm-08

[@austindenotter19]

Me jealous. Hard to find.

[@Felenari]

Love my 243win ar10. 26in barrel for s&g. Ty for sharing dude. Side note, my cerakote shop is getting started this year so if you want to bling out your sled I got you if you cover shipping to WA.

[@hunterbasselite6826]

Great test .. but not apples to apples , I personally like the 308 out of these tested , BUT the 243 was shooting mild 80gr , while the 308 and 6.5 were shooting the best specifics for that cartridge, which isn’t fair atall … This test would’ve been MUCH different, with a 95gr Vmax , or a 58gr V-max 3950fps and 2000ftlb .. which are the two gr known for best ballistics in this cartridge.

[@shawnweir8426]

243 one of the best deer rifles ever made.

[@debluetailfly]

I had a friend who loved the 243 for deer hunting. He was a big guy, but didn't like a lot of recoil. He kilt many a deer with that Remington bolt action, until he dropped it from a deer stand. He put his stands way up in the trees, I never could climb up to one of them. It bent the barrel and Remington told his gunsmith that they were in the business of selling new guns, not selling parts for old guns. He did get another newer one, but never liked it as much. He was a good shot, and I don't recall a deer ever being lost.

[@АлакПатрова]

I hunt with a 7 rem mag and my wife hunts with a .243 she has dropped many deer in their spot with that .244 its not something to sleep on. Flat shooting very low recoil and with 100gr bullets just eviscerates the heart. Her rifle groups better than mine too (savage axis 2 ladies)

[@letsdothis9063]

My buddy inherited a Ruger stainless (I forget the model, but it's sought after) in .243, when he was a kid. His older brother got the 30-06. They are avid hunters and neither has ever bought a new rifle. .243 definitely gets the job done. I have an 11 year old daughter, and I have been driving myself crazy, trying to figure out what to get her. My ex wife had a rem model 7 in .260. That's a sweet little package, especially for a kid. Unfortunately, she "loaned" it to her nephew. Something along those lines is what I'm thinking, but in something more available than .260.

[@ryanehlis426]

A competent gunsmith should be able to re bbl that .243

[@debluetailfly]

@@ryanehlis426 One tried to straighten it, but the owner didn't think it shot right. Claimed they couldn't get a new barrel. It got sold. Too late now, but maybe whoever has it can get it fixed.

[@jackyhallmark3094]

They lied ​@@debluetailfly

[@Adones09]

For the "Splash" test, might I suggest that you measure the "Dent" that is left in the piece of steel, after most of the Energy was absorbed by the water jug, of even a piece of wood (if its cheaper/easier for you).

[@deanstafford1972]

You need to do some tests on the 300 HAM'R. Definitely would love to see some results.

[@carlk1183]

Instead of a "splatter test" How about some sort of water trap which could show penetration AND you can recover the bullet to see expansion, weight, etc. Basically getting more data out of the same test. Love your channel!

[@w.scottjones4677]

Just an Idea, add half the jug full of water and add. Teaspoon of dawn soap and a drop of food coloring and shake the bananas out of it. Then your splattered stuff would be more visible. Maybe....

[@jimdevlin4949]

Bananas😂

[@garyweaver6026]

I use to do long range 1/4 mile target shooting 7mm is very near the same ballistics as 300 Winchester mag. I use to be able to shoot your block of wood target from 1/4 mile and hit 100 out of 100 shots. If you want good ballistics you need to reload with a different powder than factory load bullets. Best ballistics is with a slower powder that burns 26" of the 28" barrel length. You want a powder that gives the bullet a good hard continuous push not a sledge hammer hit on your shoulder. Your rifle needs to have lead weights so it weighs a minimum of 10 lbs. 300 Win Mag will go through 1/2" of steel easy and 7mm will too. Bullet weight makes a difference too light bullets loose energy quicker than heavy pullet at long distances you won't notice that doing up close target shooting. Your comparing apples to watermelons comparing 243 to 7mm but very good test and good video also.

[@dedeye2000]

The 7mm-08 is hands-down, the best cartridge of those four not as fast as the 6.5 or the 243 but has way more energy than both and more velocity than the 308

[@randybird9979]

I had a 7X57 it was a good deer rifle, I wish I still had it, would not sale it today

[@Saint_Sigismund]

7mm-08 has been a fantastic medium/large game cartridge for me. I wouldn't even think about switching unless I absolutely had to

[@tat2ddrac]

Great video, all great cartridges but I'm a die hard.308 guy.

[@Theloss52]

idk why the 7mm08 isn't more popular

[@craigparker4108]

Ignorance & marketing.

[@titomish5914]

@@craigparker4108wrong

[@drewapple9681]

Dude that voice. Every tried singing. 7.08 it’s what all my kids started deer hunting with. It’s a great round. The 308 is also a great round.

[@julianeder4699]

Gotta use a lighter faster moving round for the .243 (80 grains)

[@BestlifeNomad]

I said the same thing for the 308 A 130 at 3125fps

[@julianeder4699]

@@BestlifeNomad that could definitely dish out some massive energy on impact

[@bjohnson1489]

Love my 52 gr in 243

[@pressb]

14:28 is the important part, comparing random loads proves what? Might I suggest picking a projectile sectional density e.g. 0.242 this gives (roughly) a 100gn 243, 117gn 0.264, 140gn 0.284, and 165gn 0.308 Then get comparable "high performance" loads for each of these e.g. Hornady American Whitetail .243 Winchester 100 Grain Centerfire Rifle lists 2,960fps, Hornady Outfitter 6.5 Creedmoor 120 Grain CX lists 2925fps, Hornady American Whitetail 7mm-08 Remington 139 Grain lists 2840fps and Hornady American Whitetail .308 Winchester 165 Grain Centerfire Rifle Ammo lists 2700fps. Now that's a comparison I'd like to see.

[@bobharris5734]

You should have used soft point bullets to make it fair! The .243 will surprise you!

[@winstonskafte5505]

Yes my 243 has my 300 mag hanging on the wall most of the time .

[@rogarmadz]

This guy's zaniness is hilarious I love it. DON'T STOP! IT MAKES YOUR SHOW VERY ENTERTAINING! I DON'T HAVE THE FINANCING TO BUY THESE EXPENSIVE FIREARMS OR THE AMMO! I HAVE A OLD WORE OUT REMINGTON, WITH CHEAPEST 308 AMMO I CAN FIND. MY OLDER BROTHER SOLD ME ON THE 308, WHEN HE GOT HOME FROM VIETNAM, HE SAID THE ARMY TOOK THEIR M-14 AWAY FROM THEM, THE MEN COMPLAINED ABOUT IT'S STOPPING POWER, AND THE 5.56 BULLET GETS DEFLECTED IN THE TALL GRASS! THE GUYS HAD TO SHOOT OVER THE HIGH GRASS EXPOSING THEM TO ENEMY FIRE, HE SAID WE LOST MORE MEN TO THIS CHANGE. HE WAS GETTING SHORT, HE QUIT SHOOTING OVER THE GRASS, ON HIS LAST DAY HE WAS SITTING ON HIS BUNK WITH HIS BAGS PACKED, AND INCOMING MORTAR ATTACK HIT HIS BARRACK, HE WAS SAFE BEHIND THE SAND BAGS. HIS LUGGAGE HAD SHRAPNEL WENT THROUGH IT. AS HE WAS SIGNING OUT THEY TOOK HIS LUGGAGE AWAY FROM HIM, TOO DANGEROUS TO TAKE HOME. HE ASKED ( WHY DID THE ARMY TAKE THE M-14 AWAY FROM US?) THE LT. COLONEL SAID THE 5.56 IS A MORE HUMANE BULLET!!! WHEN HE GOT HOME, HE ASKED EVERYONE TO NOT BRING UP ANY VIETNAM QUESTIONS FOR AWHILE.!!!

[@adamthomson2873]

Bullet weights and type.

[@727xer]

Thank you! 😒

[@stephenkrampert3430]

Almost looks like you're testing monolithic bullets in the bigger caliber and a cup and core bullet and the little ones reverse and see how it goes. Nice videos really enjoy them.

[@gwc656g]

bring back the sand box, not as dramatic but easier to gauge.

[@brandonhollis84]

Almost nothing went through it. Maybe change the depth. 2'x2'x3"?

[@PreyofBird]

I like the splatter test but not as a replacement for sand box. You should do both. Thanks again for all the time/effort/money you put into this

[@Lagassejames]

A knot in the wood is extremely hard, much harder than the rest of the wood. Whenever you hit a knot the test is invalid unless you hit knots the same size with the rest of the rounds. STOP selecting wood with large knots.

[@bobthomas9525]

That’s not the first video I’ve seen him cheat a caliber on the test by hitting knots

[@nclifeoutdoors2669]

Been shooting my 7mm-08 for over 16 years.. she's never let me down..

[@walterneville2625]

PLEASE, NEVER, NEVER USE PLATE STEEL TO SHOOT AT.. I WITNESSED SOMEONE SHOOT A 223 AT STEEL, JUST LIKE IN THE VIDEO, IT BOUNCED BACK AND JUST MISSED KILLING THE SHOOTER. I HEARD THE BULLET WHIZZ RIGHT PAST HIM.. SCARY STUFF

[@trcass1]

nice segment. i soot a browning bolt action 243. i really like it. before that, it was a savage bolt action with a polymer stock but that broke when it dropped from a tree. i use midway all the time. great store. thanks for sharing.

[@lifewithwiggs7415]

That first shit hit a knot in the wood

[@jacebrown3796]

definitely

[@Millzspec]

Only one of them did the second still didn't come out

[@lelenbates3367]

So did the 6.5 Creed and it went through.

[@lessmith1409]

Nice channel with some interesting comparisons between calibers.

[@justa3v619]

I love the 7mm08 it gets slept on hard. But it’s a nice little round. Especially for medium game and bad guys 😂

[@Hammer.Paladin]

All thumbs are fingers but not all fingers are thumbs. I would like to see a comparison between the .260 Remington and the 6.5 Creedmoor. Love your channel. Keep up the great work.

[@armeddiver]

I have said this before. Thank you for making these videos. I find them extremely informative and you are quite entertaining. I am curious as to where you get your materials you use for the tests. Again, thanks for making the video.

[@BrianEthridge-wg6ko]

I'm very very new at this and your videos are extremely helpful. So far I have two 30 ought sixes that I inherited and a 300 Winchester Magnum on a Remington 700 frame with a Leopold scope and a carbon fiber barrel that I got at a really good deal. Like a $6,000 gun and I got it for $2,000 but it's not where I wanted to be right now so I'm just taking The 30 ought 6 hunting along with my 50 caliber pistol.

[@chrislang5659]

I really enjoy my Rem.700 7mm-08!

[@ckoch93]

That 7mm is killing it

[@douggrant272]

This is my first of your videos to watch. The first thing I noticed was how quickly you get to the action and avoid pontificating for too long. The next thing was that when you say 308, it sounds like 3-weight to me. Great video!

[@___Puppet__Master___]

You have a voice for the Radio man!!!

[@dgjacquin]

Always fun tests. I'm a fan of the 308 since there's so many options for bullets.

[@rapterattack]

Ill miss the sand box, but i do like the splatter test. Also nice paintjob. Keep making fun videos!

[@duranbailiff5337]

Great video, brother, I never miss your uploads, I would guess that the 140 grainers are more common for the 7mm-08. I am a. 308 fan, but I have to admit that the mighty 7mm is putting down the torque! ❤ MAGA 🎉

[@dozierlester3971]

Nice video, enjoyed it. What bullets did you shoot?

[@BeardRubEnjoyer]

Yes! Help me choose my hunting rifle! This is a great lineup.

[@guardianminifarm8005]

7mm-08 on water jug. Interesting comparison. Thank you.

[@hb9145]

6.5x55, because they got it right the first time. We often load them to slightly more than 900 m/s in Norway. Flat trajectory, slender bullet, small cross section, pleasant recoil.

[@shanedaly3153]

7-08 is an all time great. Definitely under rated.

[@russellvonastel7111]

243 has always been my favourite

[@TheSzalkowski]

Nice! I love my 7mm-08

[@XRakkgruntX]

The .243 bullet was 40 grains lighter than any of the other, is it possible to run the 6.5 and .243 with similar or the same grain projectiles on the mild steel? I think it'd be closer.

[@craigparker4108]

That 7mm 08 was really motoring.

[@clemwalton4767]

Oh boy here we go! Nice videos don't change a thing, thanks

[@gatorflea2788]

The .284 projectile is the king from way back !

[@Jlb-fz7nl]

That’s right you don’t waste time and I love it

[@petehendry4756]

First time in a while " time to grind " 😂 love it !!!